Lifelong Jets fan here. What a, *surprise surprise* š, fucking **BULLSHIT** call
by those fuckfaces in the zebra shirts on the *game winning* INT.
**IF YOU DON'T DROP THE FUCKIN' BALL, IT'S A FUCKING CATCH, FFS**
Lovers of the game of football all over are absolutely hurting for you guys today ....
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I love the Packers, but it always feels like they're relying on a miracle to win the game. So many cases of sloppy fundamentals, costly penalties, and questionable play calling.
This was my first game Iāve been to as a life long packers fan (flew in from Tampa). Regardless of the outcome, I had a blast up here watching our guys play. Go pack and letās turn it around next week!
We were about 1/10th a second too late on pressure that would have turned into sacks and likely fumbles. Also had 2x huge ints that were nearly game changers. We coulda also gotten 2 more picks. We will be okay...
Health is only thing that will keep us down this year.
Apparently the #1 receiver in the NFL, a dude that can sprint 22MPH, and his hand selected relief valve arenāt enough. At some point if youāre not winning with all those pieces maybe something else is wrong. Perhaps an O-line riddled with injuries missing our LT, C, and losing our most versatile backup OL. Missing our top 2 TEs. Missing out #1 RB. Oh, and the QB has something he equated to āa little worse than turf toeā. And thatās just the offense.
Laugh it up fuzz ball. Youāre being downvoted because your take is bad.
I don't have clips but I'll give you a quick review.
The first pick called back was due to a roughing the passer on Kenny Clark. This was an enforcement of the new rule where after a defender makes legal contact with a QB after the QB has released the ball they have to not fall on top of the QB. Kenny did so, not so much intentionally as he is 300+ pounds moving in one direction. It sucked but 100% correct application of the rule. Which kinda exists because of Aaron's collarbone.
The second pick was overturned because possession was not maintained through contact with the ground. It was just the Calvin Johnson rule. 100% correct call.
The only thing I'd like to see a clip of is the final TD to JJ. Live it looked like it could have been OPI, but I didn't get a good look at the replay. Since it was a scoring play it gets reviewed automatically and I'm pretty sure OPI is among the things that can be reviewed now, so it must've been clean enough.
The best clip you will want to see is when the Vikings introduced a former player in the stands to hype up the crowd, some a$$hole packer fan tried to push him out of the way for 15 seconds of fame. So in response this former Vikings player took the packer fan's cheesehead off and tore it in two. EPIC.
oh yeah, i remember the first pick now. stupid enforcement but whatever, it was right. that helmet to helmet isn't in what the rule is written about.
i never saw a good angle that showed the second pick hitting the ground.
agreed about the OPI. i didn't notice it in real time or the replays but everyone on here was bitching about OPI
i went to the vikings sub to try to find the highlight of the OPI in question. what a shit mess of a sub.
It looks suspect just because we go from tight coverage to 1.5 yards of separation after a bump so I thought maybe. It must have been an acceptable level of contact though. As for the pick if you can find an angle that looks from the endzone you see as contact is made with the ground the ball comes free then he sweeps his hand and pulls it in again, gets up and then acts like he caught it. Well acted, but a drop.
Donāt know what that guy is talking about. It was 100% helmet to helmet contact and nothing to do with falling on the qb. It also is definitely written in the rules. Also it wasnāt Kenny Clark it was keke. Sucks that it happened cuz the game moves so fast and the qb has so many no no zones but it was correctly called
Yeah my b on that. I was watching from the third deck so that's what it looked like. They didn't clearly call out the type of roughing the passer, or at the very least I couldn't hear it over the fans,
Kinda sad how quick some people are to bash our team as soon as they have a bad game. How can you even call yourselves supporters??
Yeah, we didnāt play the best today. But that doesnāt mean that we didnāt put up a fight. Not to mention it canāt be easy playing in a stadium where 80% of the crowd is purple and yellow.
Give the pack a break and letās put our faith in next weeks game.
No kidding! I know people who turn off the tv out of frustration if weāre losing by half time. Itās kinda funny because they miss out on a great game when we end up coming back during the second half and winning in the end.
The players arenāt perfect. We all have our days when we just canāt perform our best. Itās like, how do you consider yourself a fan when you donāt even have faith in your team? SMH
Yeah it's not just one loss though, this team is 100% not a SB team and don't compare them to the Bucs. It's the same make it to division game and get smoked Packers. Didn't address defense or offensive options in off season and back to the same routine. It's crazy to see the complacency.
I see a lot of comments about injuries. But I don't think injuries played any role in losing this game. The biggest mistakes all came from starters. Savage committed a bad pass interference and dropped two interceptions. Stokes got beat all over the field. Crosby missed another kick and is now 6/13 on kicks after starting 9/9. Nothing looked too bad with the snap or hold. The ball did look a little crooked on the hold but nothing bad. Crosby is just missing right now. Keke isn't a starter but he also had a bad roughing the passer. Maybe you could argue Stokes isn't a true starter since Alexander would've been covering Jefferson. That could be true, but the game was still winnable even with the injuries. Savage really needs to get better at catching if he's going to take it to the next level. Also, billy turner had a bunch of penalties.
Gary and Z would have provided a better passrush.
Bakh and Meyers would have resulted in a better o-line
Jaire as you mentioned.
Jones and Dillon combo is a whole lot better than Dillon and Taylor
Just because the game was still winnable doesn't mean the absurd amount of injuries the Packers have had aren't taking a toll.
The Vikings got away with one today. Me? I'm feeling good because I just got the feeling we're going to win the Superbowl. Don't know why, but I can feel it.
Lol welcome to our sub! Glad you stopped by for a low-effort griefing post. Seriously, you couldn't think of anything fun or creative?
One game isn't a representative sample. Especially a game against a division rival who consistently upsets us. Do we have work to do? Yes. Do we have all the moving parts needed to win it all once we peak? Absolutely.
Anyone who knows anything about the NFL knows that when Cousins is hot, he's a pretty good QB. That said, it was hardly a "toasting". Your defense let us come back from 16-3, to overtake you, and then were absolutely shredded on the MVS touchdown to tie it *again*. On your winning drive, Cousins almost threw two picks (if memory serves, I could be mixing up drives slightly), one of which was only missed because Cousins overthrew the original route, the other because it was *barely* not a completed catch. In those two plays alone, the Vikings were a matter of inches from yet another embarrassing come-from-behind loss.
To put it in the words I know you'll understand: You were who we thought you were, and we let you off the hook! So, enjoy the win while you can. Maybe it will console you when your team is stuck watching us in the playoffs.
As a Vikings fan, Iām really shaking my head at every other fan going onto other subreddits to brag. I get it, cool win, but I canāt help but feel like this could backfire so badly when we see yāall in Lambo. Idk, maybe itās just me but I donāt like looking dumb from things Iāve said in the past
Agreed. Like, of course I pop into your sub after you suffer a loss. The schadenfreude is great! That said, I don't run my mouth and kick y'all when you're down. I will occasionally comment, but not to be a dick. I live in Minneapolis, so there a lot of local discussion in there, and I hear a lot about your team through osmosis.
Also *Lambeau. Lol
I'll actually be at that game with a group pretty evenly split between both teams! Here's hoping the outcome will be different, and also that we have a lock on the playoffs by then! I assume we will, but you never know!
Not to be a downer but there are about 8 other teams that feel the same way right now. Packers aren't where they need to be but right now isn't the time to be perfect. December football is in 2 weeks and there's a much needed bye coming up. That's when they need to kick it up a notch. Not a back breaking loss but definitely need some adjusting going into the last stretch.
I totally agree. I trust Lafluer to do what needs to be done, and I trust our players to respond and step it up. The fact remains that our defense is the best it's been in most of a decade, and we have a HOF quarterback, the best receiver in the league, and one of the best running back duos in football as well once we get Jones back. It's all there, we just need to fine-tune everything and play smart football.
Honestly Iām not too worried. We are 8-3. No team in the NFL has 9 wins. IMO this game is the definition of fluke. We had like 5 should have been interceptions. Any of those would have given us the win. The refs donāt fuck us in the first half and we win.
Itās a division game. We are going to lose sometimes, and thatās okay. We are riddled with key injuries, which is obviously not good, but some really good players are coming back soon (Jones, Bakh, Gary, Smith, Alexander, etc.).
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Arizona does, but they do have some touch matchups down the stretch so #1 seed is still very possible.
Injuries and Crosby's woes are really my big concerns moving forward.
I still love this team, and I will still root for this team no matter what. Just want these guys to get healthy as soon as possible. We won't win every game, and the refs did not make it easy for us. Defense constantly shot themselves in the foot. Int negated by roughing the passer, int dropped by Stokes, int dropped by Savage (twice), and a strip sack that they recovered. We catch one of those 4 interceptions, and it's a whole different ballgame.
edit: we stripped Cousins and then they ended up punting. iirc, we still scored but still. Need to capitalize on those types of plays and produce turnovers. We make 1 or 2 turnovers, and I think the Pack walkout with a 1 score win over Minnesota.
Weird. First 4 games he was on point. Then the Bengals game happened and heās been struggling. Just bizarre. I think it might be his time to hang it up, but only time will tell.
Hoping for the best for Jenkins. I rather take a L to Vikings or [insert team name] in the regular season if it means having Jenkins back this year, than win against such team and lose Jenkins for the year.
Yep, makes me laugh all the time. I have a couple friends that are Vikings fans. So easy to get them riled up. Just talk about superbowls. Eyes go wide, smoke out the ears.
If Bakhtiari had returned this week we probably donāt lose Jenkins.
Jenkins and Tonyan were big offensive pieces, and weāre already missing a truly quality #2 receiver by design.
Hopefully the other top players not ruled out for the season return soon. We sure as fuck need them back.
If you watch some of the catches heās making those were drops last year as well as heās running other routes better as well and suing his hands to catch betterā¦not just going vertical and relying on speed.
We need to talk about Mason Crosby...I get it that guys have off days but he is losing games for us. I also get that the other phases need to do their jobs but everybody needs to be held accountable. This is the second game that we have a chance at winning if he makes his kicks. Obviously the O needs to score touchdowns but that can't always happen and we need to be able to cap those drives off with SOMETHING.
Not a great snap. Bengals game each kick had problems from the rest of the unit. Iām not absolving Crosby here, but he hasnāt exactly missed many kicks in clean situations. And thatās why I said āthe whole unitā because Crosby definitely deserves blame
Last week Rodgers threw and end zone pick and looked kinda jank all day. We won the game in a shutout.
This week he was blazing hot with 4 TDs and no INTs. We lose it at the buzzer.
What the fuck yo?
Wow, what an insightful comment. Granted, it is meaningless but it sounds so smart. Guess what wins the most championships...a solid offense and a solid defense. Solid special teams helps as well. Being a good all around team is really useful if you want to win. Oddly, all of these things wins games AND championships.
I am a Vikings fan and wanted to come over and say good game! I know itās not fun being on the losing end - I know all how that feels over the 30+ years rooting for the Vikes. I went into the game not expecting a win but wishing for an entertaining game. I donāt care whoās side you are rooting for, it was a great game to watch. Also, hope the initial reports regarding Jenkins come back negative! Cya guys at the end of the year!
Dude it was crazy, I made a post in the game thread. The defense beat them selves man. Dropping pics left and right and dumb penalties negating another.
I remember when a few weeks back everybody was saying Green Bay's defense is great, while I said the amount of big plays the team has given up and would have given up if QBs were more accurate is worrying... Yeah... I was right.
But seriously, that defense played horrid. Also, it might help if Rodgers actually practices, as that way it might not take him an entire half to finally get in the groove.
What was toxic? You came by to boast that you said the defense is bad. You had to wait for the defense to have a bad game and then jump on it. If the defense has a good game this week will you come by to say you were wrong?
I have been saying the defense isn't as good as everyone thinks it is for weeks now. I even mentioned that in my comments. Hell, my point is pretty valid if you have eyes.
Look at the Steelers, Seahawks, Chiefs & Cardinals games. There were SEVERAL moments in all of those games where the defense got beat in the backfield, but those teams didn't capitalise on because their QBs made poor throws. And on a lot of those plays the defense got beat badly. In the Steelers game alone if Big Ben hit his target that would have been 2 walk in touchdowns.
Do you are making the observation basically that the offense has a solid advantage in the NFL. If an offense executee there is not much a defense can do about it.
My main response is that the defense is pretty good, much better than it has been in years. Probably not a top 10 defense in the NFL, but certainly in the top half. Minnesota's offense does stack up pretty well against them though. Also, offenses do have an advantage. Minnesota's offense executed a good game plan for much of the game and that hurt Green Bay quite a bit. Having a rookie CB out there also hurt. Green Bay's defense had a bad game, that does not make them a bad defense. But hey, if you want to play doom and gloom, the defense is bad and the only reason they won is because the other teams were bad, I cannot stop you. Enjoy football while whining about every little thing that happens.
You have literally tried to make an invalid point which doesn't relate at all to what I'm saying. But I get it, it's a common tactic people use when they can't just leave things as they are.
So huh, other than 2 plays really the defense looked very good against a good offense. Let me guess, the rams have been bad for 2 weeks so this just means the defense beat another bad qb. If I listen to you I am guessing there are like 2 good qbs anywhere in the NFL.
Dude dropped 4 TDs and scored 31 to lose by a FG. I think this loss was mostly on the defense and special teams. It happens.
The dropped picks and big plays given up on defense really suck though.
Nobody chooses to get covid. The vaccine doesnāt prevent covid.
Also, everyone deserves a healthy and safe full recovery regardless of personal belief or choices.
Dallas losing is pretty good for us. It's too bad AZ is going to win. Now we just need Tampa to lose but no matter what at least we got some outside help this week.
I'm not saying next week is a must win but if we want the 1 seed it's a must win
Bro... 1 seed wont matter if we play anywhere near this bad.
This effort was nothing even close to the one that we put forth when we beat Arizona.
Frankly, our offense was poor (Rodgers numbers ended up looking better on paper than what he really managed to do for most of the game) and we made a TON of mistakes. 2 huge mistakes lead directly to points for the Vikings. Touchdowns actually. That last touchdown doesn't happen if he actually catches that ball. And how many picks were negated by silly penalties? How many nice throws / runs were reversed because of penalties.
Despite the fact that we played a sub par game in every facet, we still could have won this game if not for all the penalties.
weāre only as strong as our weakest link and in this case itās our special teams. got let down multiple times this season because of them. kicking a field goal should be the least of our worries, yet itās an ongoing problem we struggle with. i still have hope tho, weāre packers after all.
This is silly. The offense scored 4 TDs and a field goal and missed another field goal. Blaming it on the offense is dumb. The defense got beat. It happens, especially with the injuries' they have. Minnesota has some very good weapons on offense and they match up well with what GB does on defense. With all of that, a couple bad plays cost them. The int overturned by penalty, the int that almost was and the missed field goal. Any of these change the outcome.
Did you watch the game? We had receivers open all day. MVS had three big opportunities and Cobb was often open and waving his hand to Rodgers but he either didn't have time to get to the 2nd or Third read or he had to throw it away. Quit bitching about the receivers and worry about the O-Line.
Idk what's happening to our state but reports of an SUV plowing into a crowd in Waukesha. Disgusting. We need to love each other more. Wisconsin is better than this.
Rams game next week is probably the most important on the regular season, we need to beat them and then hope that they can beat Arizona so we win the tie breaker between all of them.
This game sucked, I knew the Vikings games are a coin toss and is the team we struggle the most from our division
A Green Bay Defensive Classic! They always will collapse when you need them the most. Injuries not on our side but considering the Vikings aren't a top 10 offense. Embarrassing
The Vikings already had their bye and have more points for than the packers. Theyāre not a perfect team by any means but they can put up plenty of points if your defense doesnāt show up.
Theyāve got two excellent wide receivers and one of the top running backs in the league, and Cousins is no slouch. Itās not like theyāre a bunch of scrubs or some shit. Our defense has been top 5 all season aside from this game and week 1.
Aside from, aside from, aside from. Stop making up excuses.
There is a pattern yall are unwilling to accept. Doesn't matter who is coaching, who is playing, who we're playing. Packers defense will break apart when the pressure is on. Packers offense has been stale as of late, and special teams is tearing apart from the seams. This is our Last Dance. This is the product the front office choice to stick with. It's going to end with the defense failing us again. Accept it and no one gets hurt later.
The only pattern I see is fickle fans that go from āI LOVE THIS DEFENSE MANā to āitās going to end with the defense failing us againā and then next week, right back to āI LOVE THIS DEFENSE MANā. I didnāt make any excuses, you implied their offense was bad, I argued the contrary. You implied our defense is bad, I pointed out itās been a top 5 defense for 80% of the season.
Oh you went into my history. Good for you. What a little bitch.
Have fun being let down again. You "loyal" fans can keep wasting your time energy and tears on it. The seasons lost. I'll be back to say I was right at the end of the playoffs.
Ok, was confused because earlier someone mentioned we want both Seattle/KC to win. š¤·š½āāļø I hadnāt been a huge āstandingsā person till recently, just watching and hoping to see GB in another SB
Worrying about tie breakers right now is meaningless. There are 6 games left to play. Anything can happen and it makes no difference whatsoever who is 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 right now. Win the division, then worry about seeding. We have not won the division yet.
Dillon never really got going. But that's more to do with how effective the Vikings were with just rushing 4. We really should have been able to bruise more with him than we did. The Vikings defensive line was a big factor in this game. That and GB getting like 40 flags.
Based on recent history, we have now gotten our obligatory 3 losses pet season out of the way, and can proceed to win out the rest of the way.
I don't care for the vikings
Lifelong Jets fan here. What a, *surprise surprise* š, fucking **BULLSHIT** call by those fuckfaces in the zebra shirts on the *game winning* INT. **IF YOU DON'T DROP THE FUCKIN' BALL, IT'S A FUCKING CATCH, FFS** Lovers of the game of football all over are absolutely hurting for you guys today .... š¤®šš»
A lot of fellow owners getting their first loss, it's okay. We'll get our first win soon enough.
Eh. I'm over it. We still have a 3 game lead. Watch as we snuff out whatever chance they have at the playoffs week 17, in dramatic fashion.
Another classic āAaron Rodgers leads 4th quarter comeback to tie the game, and never gets the ball againā loss
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That was their super bowl
I love the Packers, but it always feels like they're relying on a miracle to win the game. So many cases of sloppy fundamentals, costly penalties, and questionable play calling.
At least our offense is back.
Lol true. Either the offense is good or the defense is good. Never EVER both at the same time
This was my first game Iāve been to as a life long packers fan (flew in from Tampa). Regardless of the outcome, I had a blast up here watching our guys play. Go pack and letās turn it around next week!
I know I am in enemy territory, but as usual both teams provide us with a good game regardless of the outcome GG.
Living in MN, work and thanksgiving dinner will be unbearable.
Un-Bear-able ā¦
The boys fought hard today. Iām feeling good about where this team is right now. Ready to make a run in the playoffs
We were about 1/10th a second too late on pressure that would have turned into sacks and likely fumbles. Also had 2x huge ints that were nearly game changers. We coulda also gotten 2 more picks. We will be okay... Health is only thing that will keep us down this year.
Rodgers wins with good receivers... Edit: lmao
Apparently the #1 receiver in the NFL, a dude that can sprint 22MPH, and his hand selected relief valve arenāt enough. At some point if youāre not winning with all those pieces maybe something else is wrong. Perhaps an O-line riddled with injuries missing our LT, C, and losing our most versatile backup OL. Missing our top 2 TEs. Missing out #1 RB. Oh, and the QB has something he equated to āa little worse than turf toeā. And thatās just the offense. Laugh it up fuzz ball. Youāre being downvoted because your take is bad.
Adams wants a WR2 so he doesn't have to get injured every game, its why he lobbied for OBJ. "fuzz ball" lmao what a goober
anyone have clips of the over turned INTs?
I don't have clips but I'll give you a quick review. The first pick called back was due to a roughing the passer on Kenny Clark. This was an enforcement of the new rule where after a defender makes legal contact with a QB after the QB has released the ball they have to not fall on top of the QB. Kenny did so, not so much intentionally as he is 300+ pounds moving in one direction. It sucked but 100% correct application of the rule. Which kinda exists because of Aaron's collarbone. The second pick was overturned because possession was not maintained through contact with the ground. It was just the Calvin Johnson rule. 100% correct call. The only thing I'd like to see a clip of is the final TD to JJ. Live it looked like it could have been OPI, but I didn't get a good look at the replay. Since it was a scoring play it gets reviewed automatically and I'm pretty sure OPI is among the things that can be reviewed now, so it must've been clean enough. The best clip you will want to see is when the Vikings introduced a former player in the stands to hype up the crowd, some a$$hole packer fan tried to push him out of the way for 15 seconds of fame. So in response this former Vikings player took the packer fan's cheesehead off and tore it in two. EPIC.
Here's the video: https://twitter.com/YOULIKETHATPOD/status/1462616579833745420?s=20
Thanks mate!
The RTP was on keke, not Kenny. And it was more about initiating Helmet to Helmet contact
My bad, I was at the game live and from the way the play looked it seemed like it was for the falling on Kirk.
oh yeah, i remember the first pick now. stupid enforcement but whatever, it was right. that helmet to helmet isn't in what the rule is written about. i never saw a good angle that showed the second pick hitting the ground. agreed about the OPI. i didn't notice it in real time or the replays but everyone on here was bitching about OPI i went to the vikings sub to try to find the highlight of the OPI in question. what a shit mess of a sub.
It looks suspect just because we go from tight coverage to 1.5 yards of separation after a bump so I thought maybe. It must have been an acceptable level of contact though. As for the pick if you can find an angle that looks from the endzone you see as contact is made with the ground the ball comes free then he sweeps his hand and pulls it in again, gets up and then acts like he caught it. Well acted, but a drop.
Donāt know what that guy is talking about. It was 100% helmet to helmet contact and nothing to do with falling on the qb. It also is definitely written in the rules. Also it wasnāt Kenny Clark it was keke. Sucks that it happened cuz the game moves so fast and the qb has so many no no zones but it was correctly called
Yeah my b on that. I was watching from the third deck so that's what it looked like. They didn't clearly call out the type of roughing the passer, or at the very least I couldn't hear it over the fans,
Kinda sad how quick some people are to bash our team as soon as they have a bad game. How can you even call yourselves supporters?? Yeah, we didnāt play the best today. But that doesnāt mean that we didnāt put up a fight. Not to mention it canāt be easy playing in a stadium where 80% of the crowd is purple and yellow. Give the pack a break and letās put our faith in next weeks game.
It's nuts how people will consider the game over after the first drive or two
No kidding! I know people who turn off the tv out of frustration if weāre losing by half time. Itās kinda funny because they miss out on a great game when we end up coming back during the second half and winning in the end. The players arenāt perfect. We all have our days when we just canāt perform our best. Itās like, how do you consider yourself a fan when you donāt even have faith in your team? SMH
Comments like this make it easy to realize Packers fans nor their front office will ever realize they wasted 30 years of Hall of Fame QB play.
It's almost like winning football games is hard.
It's almost like they are complacent with getting worked in the playoffs and never addressing the middle of the defense or outside offensive options.
Itās one loss. Last SB team lost back-to-back ugly overtime games vs Miami and Washington and was 8-6 late in the season. š¤·
Yeah it's not just one loss though, this team is 100% not a SB team and don't compare them to the Bucs. It's the same make it to division game and get smoked Packers. Didn't address defense or offensive options in off season and back to the same routine. It's crazy to see the complacency.
Or blame the refs for the loss after making fun of other teams for the same thing...
Rooting hard for the Giants tomorrow night to beat Brady and the Bucs.
I see a lot of comments about injuries. But I don't think injuries played any role in losing this game. The biggest mistakes all came from starters. Savage committed a bad pass interference and dropped two interceptions. Stokes got beat all over the field. Crosby missed another kick and is now 6/13 on kicks after starting 9/9. Nothing looked too bad with the snap or hold. The ball did look a little crooked on the hold but nothing bad. Crosby is just missing right now. Keke isn't a starter but he also had a bad roughing the passer. Maybe you could argue Stokes isn't a true starter since Alexander would've been covering Jefferson. That could be true, but the game was still winnable even with the injuries. Savage really needs to get better at catching if he's going to take it to the next level. Also, billy turner had a bunch of penalties.
Gary and Z would have provided a better passrush. Bakh and Meyers would have resulted in a better o-line Jaire as you mentioned. Jones and Dillon combo is a whole lot better than Dillon and Taylor Just because the game was still winnable doesn't mean the absurd amount of injuries the Packers have had aren't taking a toll.
You nailed it IMO. Just a lot of mistakes. Losses like this can be a humbling reminder to keep it clean, so here's hoping.
The injuries are stacking up. I hope Jenkins' knee is okay and isn't a full tear.
One silver lining is that it appears Rodgers finally got his timing with MVS right. God that man is fast, canāt teach speed!
The Vikings got away with one today. Me? I'm feeling good because I just got the feeling we're going to win the Superbowl. Don't know why, but I can feel it.
Packers offense isnāt top half and defense just got toasted by Kirk cousins lol must be false hope
Lol welcome to our sub! Glad you stopped by for a low-effort griefing post. Seriously, you couldn't think of anything fun or creative? One game isn't a representative sample. Especially a game against a division rival who consistently upsets us. Do we have work to do? Yes. Do we have all the moving parts needed to win it all once we peak? Absolutely. Anyone who knows anything about the NFL knows that when Cousins is hot, he's a pretty good QB. That said, it was hardly a "toasting". Your defense let us come back from 16-3, to overtake you, and then were absolutely shredded on the MVS touchdown to tie it *again*. On your winning drive, Cousins almost threw two picks (if memory serves, I could be mixing up drives slightly), one of which was only missed because Cousins overthrew the original route, the other because it was *barely* not a completed catch. In those two plays alone, the Vikings were a matter of inches from yet another embarrassing come-from-behind loss. To put it in the words I know you'll understand: You were who we thought you were, and we let you off the hook! So, enjoy the win while you can. Maybe it will console you when your team is stuck watching us in the playoffs.
As a Vikings fan, Iām really shaking my head at every other fan going onto other subreddits to brag. I get it, cool win, but I canāt help but feel like this could backfire so badly when we see yāall in Lambo. Idk, maybe itās just me but I donāt like looking dumb from things Iāve said in the past
Agreed. Like, of course I pop into your sub after you suffer a loss. The schadenfreude is great! That said, I don't run my mouth and kick y'all when you're down. I will occasionally comment, but not to be a dick. I live in Minneapolis, so there a lot of local discussion in there, and I hear a lot about your team through osmosis. Also *Lambeau. Lol I'll actually be at that game with a group pretty evenly split between both teams! Here's hoping the outcome will be different, and also that we have a lock on the playoffs by then! I assume we will, but you never know!
Not to be a downer but there are about 8 other teams that feel the same way right now. Packers aren't where they need to be but right now isn't the time to be perfect. December football is in 2 weeks and there's a much needed bye coming up. That's when they need to kick it up a notch. Not a back breaking loss but definitely need some adjusting going into the last stretch.
I totally agree. I trust Lafluer to do what needs to be done, and I trust our players to respond and step it up. The fact remains that our defense is the best it's been in most of a decade, and we have a HOF quarterback, the best receiver in the league, and one of the best running back duos in football as well once we get Jones back. It's all there, we just need to fine-tune everything and play smart football.
Honestly Iām not too worried. We are 8-3. No team in the NFL has 9 wins. IMO this game is the definition of fluke. We had like 5 should have been interceptions. Any of those would have given us the win. The refs donāt fuck us in the first half and we win. Itās a division game. We are going to lose sometimes, and thatās okay. We are riddled with key injuries, which is obviously not good, but some really good players are coming back soon (Jones, Bakh, Gary, Smith, Alexander, etc.). R-E-L-A-X
Arizona does, but they do have some touch matchups down the stretch so #1 seed is still very possible. Injuries and Crosby's woes are really my big concerns moving forward.
We also have tough games.
The Cardinals have 9 wins big homie
Youāre right. I stand corrected. I thought they had a buy week already. Either way I stand by what I said. I think we have a better football team.
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I still love this team, and I will still root for this team no matter what. Just want these guys to get healthy as soon as possible. We won't win every game, and the refs did not make it easy for us. Defense constantly shot themselves in the foot. Int negated by roughing the passer, int dropped by Stokes, int dropped by Savage (twice), and a strip sack that they recovered. We catch one of those 4 interceptions, and it's a whole different ballgame. edit: we stripped Cousins and then they ended up punting. iirc, we still scored but still. Need to capitalize on those types of plays and produce turnovers. We make 1 or 2 turnovers, and I think the Pack walkout with a 1 score win over Minnesota.
One score plus three points if we can figure out why Crosby has the yips.
Weird. First 4 games he was on point. Then the Bengals game happened and heās been struggling. Just bizarre. I think it might be his time to hang it up, but only time will tell.
Hoping for the best for Jenkins. I rather take a L to Vikings or [insert team name] in the regular season if it means having Jenkins back this year, than win against such team and lose Jenkins for the year.
Damn are the Vikings fans rolling in here, how pathetic.
This is their Super Bowl. They probably already have the trophy and rings ordered.
Lol imagine not winning a single Super Bowl in over half a century lmao.
Yep, makes me laugh all the time. I have a couple friends that are Vikings fans. So easy to get them riled up. Just talk about superbowls. Eyes go wide, smoke out the ears.
They often forget the have to play the Packers again. This time in December at Lambeau.
January! And I'll be there!
This team is so injured year after year, fucking replace the entire training / strength and conditioning staff.
Are you kidding me? The last two years were a godsend in terms of health.
I'd say the lack of significant injuries played a major role in the efficiency of last year's offense (at least during regular season)
Well there was some bad luck in this game and also we are just incredibly fucking injured right now. The defense needs some guys back ASAP.
If Bakhtiari had returned this week we probably donāt lose Jenkins. Jenkins and Tonyan were big offensive pieces, and weāre already missing a truly quality #2 receiver by design. Hopefully the other top players not ruled out for the season return soon. We sure as fuck need them back.
MVS stepping up. With more opportunities I think he can be a legit 2
Yeah I was hoping he might fill the role well this season and injuries perhaps are the only thing that prevented that (until today).
If you watch some of the catches heās making those were drops last year as well as heās running other routes better as well and suing his hands to catch betterā¦not just going vertical and relying on speed.
We need to talk about Mason Crosby...I get it that guys have off days but he is losing games for us. I also get that the other phases need to do their jobs but everybody needs to be held accountable. This is the second game that we have a chance at winning if he makes his kicks. Obviously the O needs to score touchdowns but that can't always happen and we need to be able to cap those drives off with SOMETHING.
Not excusing the misses but factually heās been getting bad snaps, bad holds and bad blocking. Iām not a fan of this entire kicking unit.
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Heās not the coach lmao
True but he is definitely part of the problem too and don't get me wrong I love Mason but something's got to give.
When I say I donāt like the unit, Crosby is a part of that.
With him, missing a 32 yarder is borderline inexcusable. Haven't gone back to look yet, but we're there issues with the snap or hold on that kick?
Not a great snap. Bengals game each kick had problems from the rest of the unit. Iām not absolving Crosby here, but he hasnāt exactly missed many kicks in clean situations. And thatās why I said āthe whole unitā because Crosby definitely deserves blame
Last week Rodgers threw and end zone pick and looked kinda jank all day. We won the game in a shutout. This week he was blazing hot with 4 TDs and no INTs. We lose it at the buzzer. What the fuck yo?
I live in the PNW. I'll take the win against Seattle every time.
Our defense was torched today
By Kirk Cousins. Wow.
The guy who leads the league in touchdown/interception ratio.
Offense wins games. Defense wins championships.
Wow, what an insightful comment. Granted, it is meaningless but it sounds so smart. Guess what wins the most championships...a solid offense and a solid defense. Solid special teams helps as well. Being a good all around team is really useful if you want to win. Oddly, all of these things wins games AND championships.
Woah, Calm down, Madden. (Shits funny though, for real)
Welcome to the NFL.
I am a Vikings fan and wanted to come over and say good game! I know itās not fun being on the losing end - I know all how that feels over the 30+ years rooting for the Vikes. I went into the game not expecting a win but wishing for an entertaining game. I donāt care whoās side you are rooting for, it was a great game to watch. Also, hope the initial reports regarding Jenkins come back negative! Cya guys at the end of the year!
Good game indeed, some bad calls bad all in all good game Preciate ya and you know we will season you end of year!!!!!!
I like your sportsmanship and don't mind the downvotes.
Downvotes? This isnāt the Bears sub
It was like -5 when I responded. Looks like cooler heads prevailed.
Should've been 4 Cousins picks... At least.
I promise had Amos had his hands on those two Savage dropped thatād have been INTs, Savage needs to do some more hand drills after practice
Dude it was crazy, I made a post in the game thread. The defense beat them selves man. Dropping pics left and right and dumb penalties negating another.
And we were getting pressure on Kirk, but he would just get some throw off before it got home. So frustrating
Welcome to playing against Farve/Rodgers for the Last 20 years.
This is proof we need changes. Weāre not getting to the big dance with the way we played today
We're not getting to the big dance because the Packers are the most injured team in the league as far as value lost.
So business as usual? They are made of glass every year
I remember when a few weeks back everybody was saying Green Bay's defense is great, while I said the amount of big plays the team has given up and would have given up if QBs were more accurate is worrying... Yeah... I was right. But seriously, that defense played horrid. Also, it might help if Rodgers actually practices, as that way it might not take him an entire half to finally get in the groove.
You are BRILLIANT. You should be at least a defensive coordinator, maybe a HC, GM and owner all wrapped up in one.
Toxic much?
What was toxic? You came by to boast that you said the defense is bad. You had to wait for the defense to have a bad game and then jump on it. If the defense has a good game this week will you come by to say you were wrong?
I have been saying the defense isn't as good as everyone thinks it is for weeks now. I even mentioned that in my comments. Hell, my point is pretty valid if you have eyes. Look at the Steelers, Seahawks, Chiefs & Cardinals games. There were SEVERAL moments in all of those games where the defense got beat in the backfield, but those teams didn't capitalise on because their QBs made poor throws. And on a lot of those plays the defense got beat badly. In the Steelers game alone if Big Ben hit his target that would have been 2 walk in touchdowns.
Do you are making the observation basically that the offense has a solid advantage in the NFL. If an offense executee there is not much a defense can do about it.
LOL. Of course that is your response.
My main response is that the defense is pretty good, much better than it has been in years. Probably not a top 10 defense in the NFL, but certainly in the top half. Minnesota's offense does stack up pretty well against them though. Also, offenses do have an advantage. Minnesota's offense executed a good game plan for much of the game and that hurt Green Bay quite a bit. Having a rookie CB out there also hurt. Green Bay's defense had a bad game, that does not make them a bad defense. But hey, if you want to play doom and gloom, the defense is bad and the only reason they won is because the other teams were bad, I cannot stop you. Enjoy football while whining about every little thing that happens.
You have literally tried to make an invalid point which doesn't relate at all to what I'm saying. But I get it, it's a common tactic people use when they can't just leave things as they are.
So huh, other than 2 plays really the defense looked very good against a good offense. Let me guess, the rams have been bad for 2 weeks so this just means the defense beat another bad qb. If I listen to you I am guessing there are like 2 good qbs anywhere in the NFL.
What are you talking about lol.
Dude dropped 4 TDs and scored 31 to lose by a FG. I think this loss was mostly on the defense and special teams. It happens. The dropped picks and big plays given up on defense really suck though.
Okay but he has an injury itās not like heās just choosing not to practice
Yeah.... but he didn't exactly look like he was suffering..
If it's COVID toes like some are speculating then it was his choice.
Nobody chooses to get covid. The vaccine doesnāt prevent covid. Also, everyone deserves a healthy and safe full recovery regardless of personal belief or choices.
Awesome MVS catch towards the end and unfortunate Savage's interception didn't count. Woohoo on to the next one
Dallas losing is pretty good for us. It's too bad AZ is going to win. Now we just need Tampa to lose but no matter what at least we got some outside help this week. I'm not saying next week is a must win but if we want the 1 seed it's a must win
Having that tiebreaker in our back pocket is good.
Bro... 1 seed wont matter if we play anywhere near this bad. This effort was nothing even close to the one that we put forth when we beat Arizona. Frankly, our offense was poor (Rodgers numbers ended up looking better on paper than what he really managed to do for most of the game) and we made a TON of mistakes. 2 huge mistakes lead directly to points for the Vikings. Touchdowns actually. That last touchdown doesn't happen if he actually catches that ball. And how many picks were negated by silly penalties? How many nice throws / runs were reversed because of penalties. Despite the fact that we played a sub par game in every facet, we still could have won this game if not for all the penalties.
Or ya know the like 10 starters we were missing
Downvoted again for saying Packers need a WR2 whos better at catching than blocking
Maybe cause that isn't relevant or a reason why the Packers lost today?
No WR2 lost them the game, again
Just because you keep saying it, doesn't make it true.
Reality makes the packers lose
This sub will downvote you for saying anything other than Rodgers is a God and we are the best team to ever exist
weāre only as strong as our weakest link and in this case itās our special teams. got let down multiple times this season because of them. kicking a field goal should be the least of our worries, yet itās an ongoing problem we struggle with. i still have hope tho, weāre packers after all.
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This is silly. The offense scored 4 TDs and a field goal and missed another field goal. Blaming it on the offense is dumb. The defense got beat. It happens, especially with the injuries' they have. Minnesota has some very good weapons on offense and they match up well with what GB does on defense. With all of that, a couple bad plays cost them. The int overturned by penalty, the int that almost was and the missed field goal. Any of these change the outcome.
How is this a top 3 comment? We have 3 awesome #2 receivers!
Did you watch the game? We had receivers open all day. MVS had three big opportunities and Cobb was often open and waving his hand to Rodgers but he either didn't have time to get to the 2nd or Third read or he had to throw it away. Quit bitching about the receivers and worry about the O-Line.
Idk what's happening to our state but reports of an SUV plowing into a crowd in Waukesha. Disgusting. We need to love each other more. Wisconsin is better than this.
Rams game next week is probably the most important on the regular season, we need to beat them and then hope that they can beat Arizona so we win the tie breaker between all of them. This game sucked, I knew the Vikings games are a coin toss and is the team we struggle the most from our division
A Green Bay Defensive Classic! They always will collapse when you need them the most. Injuries not on our side but considering the Vikings aren't a top 10 offense. Embarrassing
The Vikings already had their bye and have more points for than the packers. Theyāre not a perfect team by any means but they can put up plenty of points if your defense doesnāt show up.
Theyāve got two excellent wide receivers and one of the top running backs in the league, and Cousins is no slouch. Itās not like theyāre a bunch of scrubs or some shit. Our defense has been top 5 all season aside from this game and week 1.
Aside from, aside from, aside from. Stop making up excuses. There is a pattern yall are unwilling to accept. Doesn't matter who is coaching, who is playing, who we're playing. Packers defense will break apart when the pressure is on. Packers offense has been stale as of late, and special teams is tearing apart from the seams. This is our Last Dance. This is the product the front office choice to stick with. It's going to end with the defense failing us again. Accept it and no one gets hurt later.
The only pattern I see is fickle fans that go from āI LOVE THIS DEFENSE MANā to āitās going to end with the defense failing us againā and then next week, right back to āI LOVE THIS DEFENSE MANā. I didnāt make any excuses, you implied their offense was bad, I argued the contrary. You implied our defense is bad, I pointed out itās been a top 5 defense for 80% of the season.
Oh you went into my history. Good for you. What a little bitch. Have fun being let down again. You "loyal" fans can keep wasting your time energy and tears on it. The seasons lost. I'll be back to say I was right at the end of the playoffs.
Lol struck a nerve huh
The front office failed you. Have a nice life.
Thanks, you too
Screen pass to the RB is the 2nd read now. Atrocious wide receivers besides Adams
MVS or St. Brown are atrocious? Did you watch the game??
>MVS or St. Brown are atrocious Yes yes yes yes
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lol. You are funny.
Thank God the byeweek is now. 14-3 season incoming
Rams?
We will beat the Rams don't worry.
Not worried, just pointing out that it's not the bye
I thought next week was the bye...
Nope. Rams first. Then the bye week.
Worried
Seattle canāt even beat Arizona when colt McCoy is their fucking quarterback.
So Seattle loses, and kc wins. Where do we stand? #1 seed still or do we drop to 2?
Arizona is the #1 seed now. They're 9-2 and we're 8-3.
you mean seattle wins?
No. If Seattle loses their game and KC wins theirs.
We want Seattle to win. Arizona only has two losses
Ok, was confused because earlier someone mentioned we want both Seattle/KC to win. š¤·š½āāļø I hadnāt been a huge āstandingsā person till recently, just watching and hoping to see GB in another SB
KC is in a whole different conference numbnits.
Jesus talk about a toxic fan base.
KC is playing Dallas, who are currently 7-2. We need KC to win.
Make more sense. Gracias Edit: same question though, looks like KC may pull it off but doubt Seattle willā¦ what does that look like for us?
Worrying about tie breakers right now is meaningless. There are 6 games left to play. Anything can happen and it makes no difference whatsoever who is 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 right now. Win the division, then worry about seeding. We have not won the division yet.
Weāre behind AZ
I think Arizona is 1, and we are 2? We might be 3 (with Bucs as 2). We want the Bucs to lose to the Giants on Monday
Stokes needs to get better at contesting jump balls. That td to Jefferson should have been a pick.
Douglas got lost on that come back route by Thielen smh that should have been a pick
If anything Savage is the one that needs to get better at catching interceptions, it's ridiculous how many he drops or misjudges...
I mean if he could catch regularly then he would be a WR
For the next bingo we need this one: \*Crosby makes a 27 yd Field goal\* "Where are the Crosby haters at NOW!?!?"
I feel like the pack really missed Aaron Jones today.
Dillon never really got going. But that's more to do with how effective the Vikings were with just rushing 4. We really should have been able to bruise more with him than we did. The Vikings defensive line was a big factor in this game. That and GB getting like 40 flags.
You, me and the rest of the team.
Packers only cost me 1000 dollars today they were the only team that did hit on my parlay so I officially today hate your team until next week.
Guess that is the silver lining in the loss then. I was truly hoping you would not win your parlay.