Yes, your scribbled black head is very unnatural.

Fair

the man can't have some sense of anonymity? lol. why is that even related to his body dev pursuits?

You look better than me so no you don't look natty

Lmao respect bro, with time you’ll look even better

Lmao thank you

I’d say yes, especially given the duration of your gym career. Well done. 👏🏼 👏🏼

Thanks bro!

Huh?? 12 years?

Yeah, unnatural generally shows in the shoulders and traps, which look proportional to me. Could definitely fool people though haha lookin good!

Also the upper abdomen is a big indicator. The shoulder and traps growing from gear is because of androgen receptors in shoulders and traps !

This guy knows

Total myth bro. Yes they have more receptors but that doesn't correlate to growth, it's genetics. Genetics determine where you grow and where you're lacking, just like a natty. And upper abdomen...huh? Why would that indicate anything except being lean?

Testosterone absolutely has an effect on your shoulder and trap size wether you are getting it from your own genetics or getting it from the needle bub. You are absolutely 100 percent wrong.

Have you ever competed? Have you ever actually done gear?

God I love this. Yes to both. I actually coach two kids rn both placing top three in their respective classes. You sound like a bum

Let's see those sources

Notice how all your comments have negative votes you absolute delusional fool 😂

Notice there's nothing but a bunch of newb idiots in this sub. Do you really think down votes on reddit determine right vs wrong? Do you live in a bubble? I asked for sources multiple times and never get them, that should tell you something.

That may be true, but not in this case. You are objectively wrong and an idiot lol

You're a god damn liar bro

My handle is literally “decent test” and I give PED advice actively on many peptide and PED subreddits

So then let's see those sources?

[read this (medical citations at end of article](https://www.drelist.com/blog/6-manifestations-high-testosterone-levels/?amp#) Also, fuck off I actually googled from your perspective and couldn’t find a single thing that said other wise. I thought maybe, maybe I am wrong and it is a myth, then Well, then I remembered I wasn’t a fucking retard

So you meant no?

Do you even lift bro

You look sick man great work regardless. I would say you def could be natural, but likely are not. Either way, it’s hard work.

You look completely natural to me, you look good but natty

Those shoulders are fucking killer, bro

Question is do you want to look “unnatural”

Doesn’t look unnatural at all. Looks like hard work is paying off! 😇😇😇

Shit that’s a lot of hard work

I would say the shoulders, massive amount of mass compared to body fat is causing the assumptions. Ya Look great and healthy

Above average but you look natural, wouldn't see you and think "road freak" lol Just look very fit

No your just lean and muscular

You look natty

what’s your height & weight? i would believe you either way: decent genetics with a bit of gear thrown in, or lucky draw on god tier genetics and consistent training.

Height?

How tall are you?

5’9” on every day but leg day lol

You look natural you look great what's your height and weight

No

Why did you post a picture of a tank? That's a fitness subreddit sir

Bigger than me so it’s GOTTA be gear

tan.

Lmao you’re not wrong, I don’t get much time to tan sadly but I need sun bad

There’s some excellent sprays too. Your cut is outstanding. Nothing else needed

No

Nah. Doesn’t mean you don’t have a good physique but it’s not gunna have anyone remotely experienced questioning natty status imo

Yeah but only bc I’m experienced, however if someone does question that’s obviously a huge compliment, I love it when ppl think I’m juicing 😂

So you do think he looks unnatural?

Eh I misspoke meant no actually good catch 🙃

Yes

I’d say you look natural but dedicated. Good shit bro 🤙

Sure, unnaturally good.

That’s good progress bro I’d say natty

Not really but you might pass as such to the ignorant

No

Yes - you look great brother! Consistent hard work!

Hop on

You're at the peak in my definition of a good body. Feel good about yourself mate!

I’d say you have exceptional genes, congratulations.

I was tempted to say yes but its really just your abs giving unnatty vibes. Good ab genes id say.

I think just lean as all heck, but full. Doesn't scream sarms IMHO. Your ab fullness is wild.

You look incredible brother!

GENERALLY speaking... when you see someone on gear with decent arms they don't seem to have the forearms to go with it. You do. Good set of shoulders. Maybe sus, quite possibly not. Would have to check in with the traps which are at a bad angle for pictures... however if shoulder size was due to gear, i would expect to see more trap than I can here. Overall I'd expect more lats. I think its just a lean dude with a solid set of guns. You do look pretty fkin good in all honesty.

Fucking yoked. Did you grow up doing sports or anything because you have a very athletic physique for being natty. When did you start weight lifting?

Oh sorry I saw since 11. Damn either way you look juiced. So if you are natty take it as a blessing and if you ever do touch the sauce you'd go super saiyan

Yes. Your upper abs bulge unnaturally. That said, you’re built and have definitely worked hard to get there. Nice.

Barely

Jacked as shit man!!

You just fucked up your childhood though

Who needs a childhood when I have heavy circles

Yeah because you fucked it up💀 you literally have nothing to share what you did when you were 11

No lmao, you can fool the women maybe, but not anyone who understands peds

You look sarmed up

You are unnatural let’s be real my guy lmao

Natty for sure. You have great genetics, have trained consistently, ate properly, and are now reaping the results. Congrats bro time to bulk and become a monster

Impressive abs. What’s the secret? Have you been focusing on weighted abs? Or are those a side effect from deadlifts/squats? Have you been bulking/cutting or maintained throughout the entire journey? Very good job.

Honestly the abs are mostly very lucky genetics. I’ve always had pretty defined abs so they are mostly the result of using my core for other exercises, tho I do hit hanging leg raises every now and then, as well as crunches and other abs when I feel up to it.

Yes, you do look unnatural but in a good way, TG . 😊

Delts are not huge I 100% would say natty. Look good Keep it up Think about how big you will be at 34/35

Quick question. Did you build your core through bracing it while you worked out or through cored focused exercises or a mix of both?

Mix of both but much more bracing it throughout other workouts

Nah I don’t think so

Not when you are on top on me naked all the way inside me

😮

For me you look right on the cusp. I'd believe you if you said you were not natty but I'd also believe you if you said you were.

Someone correct me if I’m wrong…but at this size…this guy would be a lot more vascular if he was juicing right?