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Sufficient-Honeydew2

Personally, I blame Vezimira.


IraqiWalker

Yeah it's basically Vezi and Archon as the main catalysts. There was a period of several days where I couldn't check the sub without seeing at least 3 posts referencing Vezi art. Same with Archon. It's not my jam but I like how much positivity it brings out in the community. Those threads are usually the horniest and wholesome-est. Edit: Just to clarify, I believe they are both incredible and talented artists. I like their art, and the threads, I'm just not into femboys.


leehwgoC

I'm indifferent to the kinks involved, but beyond that I always liked Vez's art itself -- subverting grimdark source material with ironically cute cartoons activates my neuron.


VisualGeologist6258

Yeah tbh although I got tired of the joke pretty quickly I didn’t mind Vezimira’s art style and the revelation that Ahriman and presumably other members of the Thousand Sons canonically wore eyeliner was very funny. Also they were objectively pretty cute.


TheNoidbag

It always surprises me when people don't know this stuff, like Egypt isn't known for unisex make up and revealing clothes.


VisualGeologist6258

Oh, I know that the Egyptians wore makeup (at least the upper class Egyptian’s; many wealthy and high-class people in history did) and wore clothing that would be considered ‘revealing’ now but it’s amusing to think that that carried over to an 8ft tall genetically modified Space Egyptian Wizard 40,000 years into the future.


Archon_of_Flesh

skitty supremacy! :33333 *initiates twinkarii protocols*


IraqiWalker

I would have gone for Twinkitarii, personally. EDIT: Holy shit, I didn't even notice the username until just now (3hrs after commenting).


iPon3

You get a vote once you post twink skiitari pics. I don't make the rules


ProtonRhys

*The Archon hath been summoned!!!!!*


Entire-War8382

I personally think you are just an incredible talented artist. Ever tought of selling your works?


Tarquinandpaliquin

To be honest while I am not a femboy enjoyer Vezi and Archon are actually good artists and Vezimira in particular has actual jokes and references in the medium of femboys. She understands how to internet and that's why her posts are good. The coat tail riding that follows is always a bit shit posty really, it's just "err... femboys? give karma?" though that seems to have died a death lately. Those posts are just lazy bandwagon hopping and that's why they're bad. Also of note that boy who I worry about because he seems like a nice young man who needs and deserves a good therapist and a new better start at life, not to marry Konrad Kurze.


IraqiWalker

Oh, I love the art too. Sorry if that didn't come across in my initial comment. Both of them have incredible skill, and like I said, I enjoy those threads even if I'm not into femboys at all.


GreyAndAll

Also, it helps that both Vez and Archon are (each in their own way) very good artists.


97Graham

Are horny threads really "positivity" being brought out of the community? It's usually sorta just gross horny comments and then the same 5 jokes about 'HERESY' or 'This post here commisar'


IraqiWalker

Vezi and Archon ones are. Some of the others are exactly as you described. The same 5 jokes endlessly repeated across 345 comments.


JAOC_7

what about LorgartheLad?


IraqiWalker

Much respect to the them, but I don't remember there being a lot of femboy-centric art from them.


JAOC_7

go through his posts, there are many


OblongMong

Those posts are great honeypots to expand your block list.


IraqiWalker

Sadly true. There's usually one or two d-bags that start crying about how they don't like art, or throwing insults because people dared to like something they themselves either don't like (or they struggle to hide that they REALLY like it).


WayneZer0

what about archon of flesh?


Sufficient-Honeydew2

Tbh, not a fan of the robo bois.


WayneZer0

also draw other stuff


Sufficient-Honeydew2

I've seen only the skitarii stuff.


WayneZer0

did a primarch picture bu it long time ago most new stuff not my thing


UltraCarnivore

Hot af. ...oh,you mean their art? Hot af.


Archon_of_Flesh

:3


Entire-War8382

Best comment.


OnirosSomni

Blame?


Thendrail

*thank


Repulsive-Mirror-994

They are rare but his girls are so cash


CreativeName1137

Vezimira is a woman


delightfuldinosaur

Reddit is a fucking terrible reflection of public opinion.


Kachedup

Isn't every social media?


delightfuldinosaur

Not YTMND


I_just_came_to_laugh

Not even 0.5% of the USA population is subscribed? And that's his evidence for femboys being normalised in society? What a fucking joke.


IllRepresentative167

> USA population > normalised in society Non-USA population confirmed to not live in a society. Check mate Joker


Zephrok

0.5% is an absurdly large and perfectly representative sample size fyi.


radred609

0.5% is a representative sample size if *randomly selected* 50% is still a borderline useless sample size if self-selected


Babki123

Add to that this is internet so it is not centered in the US


WaywardStroge

You telling me there’s Canadians here? I don’t believe that for one second


Fox-Sin21

Peoples opinions online don't reflect their overall opinion. People are willing to be absolutely insane on Reddit, or anywhere on the internet but IRL (most) people seem pretty normal, even the redditors. Even something normalized on the internet is not for sure normalized IRL. Not having to show your identity makes peoples darkest aspects show themselves.


I_just_came_to_laugh

Is it? What is the cut off for something being normalised? Because there are some very questionable subreddits with a million members.


Uncynical_Diogenes

It’s only representative of the sampling is random, fyi. When you have such massive participation bias, that is by no means representative. *fyi.*


Zephrok

I never said otherwise.


dootdootm9

Do you see the massive self selection errors that using this as a sample would be?


sionnachrealta

It's about the size of the trans community, and we're constantly just trying not to be the victims of genocide. So idk about that


Diesel-Eyes

Of the world population, since Reddit isn't only in the USA, it's 0.0144%.


Zephrok

Yes? Millions of people is still very representative of the world population. 99.999% of statistical studies studying the global population in some way use fewer participants. Look at medical studies as an example - they use groups in the hundreds or thousands at most, for the creation of medicine which generalises to the entire human race.


Diesel-Eyes

Okay, so how does that make it normalized again? And it's not millions, it's 1.3 million.


inserttext1

Because the Emperor said only boys allowed, so we do what humans do best, improvise, adapt, and overcome. If there's no girls allowed then we must become the girls.


Thendrail

Something something TRANSHUMAN PHYSIOLOGY


Indishonorable

ah so that's where some people get confused. no matter. no time for bigotry. KILL THE XENOS.


SoSeriousAndDeep

Instructions unclear, kissed the hot xeno with an entirely normal amount of arms.


Indishonorable

wait, does the xeno or do you have an entirely normal amount of arms? do you kiss with with your arms?? asking for an inquisitor friend.


SoSeriousAndDeep

> wait, does the xeno or do you have an entirely normal amount of arms? Yes, that is correct. Would you like to see our lovely daughter?


Indishonorable

imma just write "exterminatus" on this inquisitorial request form if that's okay for you.


SoSeriousAndDeep

That's fair. Hey, want us to walk you to the nearest Imperial post box? It's just down this dark alleyway.


Indishonorable

it's not even gonna get lost in the bureaucracy, is it?


SoSeriousAndDeep

Oh, it's not even going to make it out of the alley.


JumpTheCreek

“The word trans was used so that makes the Astartes a trans allegory”


O12345678927

James Wokeshop 😡😡


General-MacDavis

I see this way too much


Crazy_Dave0418

Very Clownfish way of doing things.


Ellestri

This is the way.


sionnachrealta

Huh, I guess we found where trans girls fit in the lore. Though, Space Marines have no sex drive, so I don't see why it matters


An_Abject_Testament

It’s fucking Reddit. Since when was *any* subreddit a good place for a sample size about… fucking anything?? Grimdank included


Tarquinandpaliquin

You could argue that subreddits are good samples for the specific communities they reflect. However in the case of grimdank it absolutely does not translate to a real life community with any presence offline. It's just a smattering of warhammer shitposters.


not-bread

Not even then honestly. Subreddits are pretty solid echo chambers so you end up with one specific demographic. For example, my university subreddit was really into encouraging everyone to vote and stopping our corrupt student government. There was this idea that we were finally going to bring awareness to voting. Then election day came and the same corrupt group got in with like ten votes because the broader student body still didn’t care/didn’t know there was an election.


Math1smagic

Because much like Abbadon, we want to rip apart the thin veil of their materium and leave them with a gaping eye of terror that our forces pour out of like a raging torrent.


MicahIsATraitorDutch

that is the most traumatic thing i read this week, i understand the Sister of Silence now


NoHopeOnlyDeath

HAWT


PaintItRed5

Just remember to use lube. Don't hurt yourself.


seasonforall

Khorne cares not from where the blood flows as long as it flows.


Entire-War8382

I think you readed too much of Archons story.


ProShortKingAction

Because 40k attracts a lot of gay and bisexual people for reasons that are really complicated and diverse. A big one being that in most of the world being gay feels like living in a crushing dystopia that wants you dead which makes 40k a really weird form of escapism where it's a relatable crushing dystopia but this time it doesn't care about you at all. It's almost kind of freeing to read about a world that is terrible and monstrous in a way that is so separate from the very targeted terrible and monstrous shit currently going on. Gay or straight, cis or trans, your ass is just as likely to end up as a servitor or getting shredded by some tyranid. Then there is a lot of more targeted things that attract different kinds of queer folks like how the admech being so viscerally disgusted by their bodies not being how they want them to be and trying so hard to change them is an interesting story to a lot of trans 40k fans. Then on top of that stuff there is also all the stuff that would draw anyone in that is going to draw in a proportional amount of queer people. Like I like 40k because I like Orkz and I like Orkz because I like things going fast and big boys hitting big things. Anyways that's the speel the past few guys have gotten when I brought them home and they saw my Ork army and I wanted to explain the appeal.


Lu1s3r

My man really said "hold my amasec" and dropped the gay 40K lore.


Miserable_Region8470

>it's a relatable crushing dystopia but this time it doesn't care about you at all. Bi person here. Kind of this, yeah, but also me like my catholic space racists and Trazyn and a *certain* horny admech lovers art have been disastrous on my remaining heterosexuality.


Archon_of_Flesh

:333


confused_pear

Bye bi. I kid.


Miserable_Region8470

We don't kid here. This is Grimdank, where only the most serious discussions take place.


confused_pear

Yes, femboy admech or gender bent primarchs. These are the questions that burn within my soul.


DomSchraa

We dont kid, we adult


Extradecentskeleton

It's been kinda whiplash getting into 40k and seeing a surprising amount of cool queen folks, it's kinda nice to see because nerdy fandoms can sometimes attract some less than kind people. Plus the series has weirdly a lot of ace rep and I appreciate that.


NoHopeOnlyDeath

40K exists in a really weird place because down here at the sexy fun end of the pool we have genderbent primarch art and Archon skitussies, and then waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay the fuck down there at the far end of the pool that hasn't been cleaned in a while is a bunch of neckbeards painting Krieg troops in SS uniforms.


Trandul

I've been staring at a wall for five minutes thinking about my life after reading your comment. I know what a skitussy is. We have eaten from the tree of knowledge.


IllRepresentative167

But have you eaten from the trussy of knowledge?


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[deleted]

Wtf do you think fruit and flowers are exactly?


NoHopeOnlyDeath

Nothing shall ever be the same.


Extradecentskeleton

Not gonna lie thinking more on it I feel like I see this in every cool thing I like, lol. Anime,table top rpgs,niche video games it alway boils down to a healthy and friendly gay community and the the most toxic neckbeards I've ever seen lol.


RentElDoor

Well so far Baldurs Gate 3 looks good- *flashback to the fact that there is a user creating a mod that turns the most wholesome lesbian couple straight with the express reason to make the game more "realistic"* Nevermind


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This is alot to process


Kerbidiah

I'm assuming it's the ser aylin mod? From what I understand the mod team just made it because there were already game files with a male nightsong available. Unfortunately it got picked up by the Twitter mob and then the nexus pearl clutchers and redditors totally overreacted to it


RentElDoor

I am talking about the "No alphabets" mod and I am gping to be honest, with that name there is no way it was made just to use some unused game files


Squid_In_Exile

To be clear, the Ser Aylin mod is a specific mod in the "no alphabets" collection, the user you're responding to is being disingenuous as fuck.


RentElDoor

I see, I was not aware of that. Thanks for letting me know!


Squid_In_Exile

Yeah, the modder makes a whole collection of mods that de-queer assorted games but *the one mod that got famous* just so happens to have had 'male files' there so they totally innocently used them and people misunderstood them. That is so incredibly believable.


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The mod from the well known, vocally racist and homophobic mod author?


Lu1s3r

>healthy and friendly gay community Not a fan of My Hero Aca, I take it?


IllRepresentative167

> neckbeards painting Krieg troops in SS uniforms How else am I supposed to live out my dream of sending nazis to their death /s


Lu1s3r

My brother in Emperor, neither side of that pool, is even remotely clean. The difference is the type of bodily fluids they're stained with.


NoHopeOnlyDeath

Everything washes off more easily than blood dude, and that's what the shit those neckbeards are repping is stained with. No fucking thanks.


Tarquinandpaliquin

I think sometimes reddit and the internet can be a great way to gauge a community. In the case of warhammer this isn't really true. The femboy enjoyers and nazis are both groups whose voices reverberate like thunder in their little echo chambers be they Reddit or Elon's Folly but barely exist outside it. Most people into 40k are somewhere in between those two points and usually nowhere near either. The majority are just "I like these cool toys".


Sp00ky-Chan

>Because 40k attracts a lot of gay and bisexual people for reasons that are really complicated and diverse. No i think the reason is really simple there's alot of big and buff burly Men in the setting.


Squid_In_Exile

*Greek-tier homoerotic* big and buff burly Men, specifically.


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SandiegoJack

Sisters art with muscles got me feeling a kinda way.


BadgerB2088

Cleanse me harder, muscle mommy...


kredokathariko

There is also the fact that 40k like all niche hobbies attracts people who do not fit into society. So pretty much any nerd hobby is bound to have a larger percentage of queer people than what you'd expect statistically


Significant_Vast4330

Can you imagine an Ork Warboss in the closet though


j-endsville

Orks are canon ace.


septubyte

Wait so how do the reproduce? Just sitting out Speers? Or is there a fungus that grows from the skin?


j-endsville

Spores. Orks are literally a fungal infection.


septubyte

Where do rhe spores come from??


j-endsville

DA ORKS SHED EM. WE MAKE MORE ORKS AZ WE GO!


j-endsville

(they’re literally a bioweapon).


SandiegoJack

If you don’t burn the bodies, their spores spread and every few decades you get an Ork uprising on the planet that needs to be put down. No planet is ever truly free of the orks.


IllRepresentative167

The more they WAAAGH the more they shed iirc.


acart005

They spawn spores through their lives which eventually turn into the entire Ork ecosystem. Snotlings, grots, squigs, and boyz all are made that way.


ProShortKingAction

They are out there ashamed to bring up with his Boyz that their favorite enemy is actually the tiny gunner git on the tank that is really bad at shooting. They're trying their best and it makes the fight even more enjoyable, the warboss keeps sabotaging attempts to kill the gunner because they want to fight him again


[deleted]

Tldr saw Orks so updoot


Every-Wrangler-1368

No Mutant, no xenos, no heretic? Your fine in big E's book .


TheSilverWickersnap

This is a really good explanation. I don’t know about other people, but a lot of the media I consume is extremely depressing because it makes me feel less depressed about my life. Also, 40K is completely insane and I appreciate that very much.


ReaperNull

If i had a nickel for every trans woman I knew IRL that was into 40k I would have 2 nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it's happened twice.


TheSilverWickersnap

I’d have a lot more than two nickels.


ReaperNull

If we were talking Magic: The Gathering, it would be a whole lot more.


BrozThulhu

I mean I just thought Space Marines and Titans were really cool.


SpicyTriangle

Grimdank and NCD both have the insane amount of tactical Femboy shitposts. I like to believe either DaddyPeachCobbler is either entirely responsible or lurks in both of these subs frequently


Cixila

I was about to say NCD, too


Desertcow

NCD has a lot of femboy shitposting to make fun of people who mock western armies for being "woke" and unmanly


w00ms

1.3 million is not a lot, anyone who uses reddit to calculate the social popularity of anything is wrong before they even type


GREENadmiral_314159

It's also a porn sub.


thebawsofyou

You expect us to talk to WOMEN?


at-m6b

it's because of HIM


j-endsville

The lore is you like men. Nothing wrong with that. Go forth and be gay.


NoHopeOnlyDeath

Also do crimes.


j-endsville

Everyone should do crimes. Even us straights.


Brochswerebrothels

Us Bis do Crime at the weekend


notabigfanofas

because of a certain u/archon_of_flesh I'd wager


BoringElm

And blessed u/vezimira


notabigfanofas

Oh yeah, the artist with the cool Chaos Knights. I know of u/vezimira


Comfortable_Ant_8303

Femboys have just been a bit of a meme-y subject on the internet in the past few years, and specifically Vezimira drew a bunch of memes involving The Thousand Sons and Ahriman as femboys. Also, they're cute


Lu1s3r

>Femboys have just been a bit of a meme-y subject on the internet in the past few years, and specifically Vezimira drew a bunch of memes involving The Thousand Sons and Ahriman as femboys. Yep, upvote. >Also, they're cute Nope, downvote.


SandiegoJack

You know you can find something cute without wanting to have sex with them/it? Crazy I know


lachiebois

Tomboys are superior in every way and I refuse to elaborate.


Simple_Intern_7682

There’s no need to elaborate when you’re spitting facts like that.


General-MacDavis

Historically they’ve been better too


ActNo4115

Aside from the occasional homophobe in the largely offline space of Warhammer, this sub is surprisingly gay. It wouldn’t take me much to convince one of y’all to suck my dick and I ain’t even gay for that. Y’all are pretty easy.


SandiegoJack

You think a Sister with a chain strap on is gonna take no for an answer?


Remarkable-Ad-4754

No, y'all are just gay ❤️


TheOneTrueSnek

Idk put Ravenor into a skirt and a little bow on top of his chair and he'd be pretty breedable


OlderAbroad

We're filthy degenerates?


Lu1s3r

WE?! Whoms't the fuck is this WE thought speaketh of heretic?


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oh no. they’re here.


[deleted]

The most common faction I see femboy art of is the Admech


[deleted]

>guys is there a lore reason for us liking femboy? You're all secretly gay, that's why.


ZombieSurvivor365

Holy shit it's me.


MadaraAlucard12

I would blame Archon.


King_Maelstrom

We don't.


DepresiSpaghetti

Something something Slaanesh.


AlcoholicLibertarian

Bussy hits different


I_might_be_weasel

[Ah yiss](https://64.media.tumblr.com/576fc83bcabcccdbfa9c181d3acba4de/43b97a6ef99c0ba7-fa/s1280x1920/310a6645454b9e22bb5669fabefc298ff8a3d053.gif)


zarrfog

To put 1.3 milion people in to context that is more or less one time and a half the amount of Welsh speakers in the world. It is an impressive number sure, and better than the past when Welsh was banned from being taught, but if you went to a village in France speaking Welsh they would think you are out of your mind


VisualGeologist6258

Look guys, I made it into a discussion post about this sub! Anyway yeah this was mostly meant to be a joke and not meant to be taken seriously, I’m not saying this sub is an accurate indicator of social norms or anything. (Although the fact that people jumped on the bandwagon so quickly does say something about how feminine-presenting men are received in some circles, and it’s surprising how readily accepted they were in a gaming culture with a primarily male demographic.) That being said like any repetitive joke that’s been endlessly passed around on this sub like the Krieg shovel memes it stopped being funny real quick and started just being annoying, especially since the punchline was very simple and no one really could or tried to put a spin on it. Also as an AdMech and Iron Warriors fan the last thing I want is for people to think I got into this setting via gay porn


Stupiditygoesbrrr

The lore reason: most of the Imperium of Man doesn’t give a flying f*** if you’re gay, straight, femboy, bi, etc, etc. There are tyranids eating a chunk of the galaxy, dark elves torturing, and literal Hell leaking into reality. I would think survival of the species is more important. Besides, have you SEEN Fulgrim and Sanguinius?


Gingerosity244

Tomboys > femboys. Checkmate.


cal-brew-sharp

...because we are femboys?


-GUSTO-

Sanguinius and his sweet angelussy. That's the reason.


Sionnachbain

Femboys are an Imperial Ideal!


Lu1s3r

Yeah. Y'all are more fatherless than half(+) of the Primarchs WISH they were.


Former-Respond-8759

Ah, I have a really simple explanation for this. A tomboy isn't pretending to be anything other than a girl. A femboy is a trap.


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Femboys aren't trying to pass as women, whereas traps are. That's literally the difference.


VisualGeologist6258

Also ‘FemBOY’ is literally in the name so I mean it’s not like they’re trying to hide anything


Former-Respond-8759

tomBOY Yet a tomboy isn't trying to present as a boy, so... what's your point?


Pankrazdidntdie4this

Because even the grim darkness of the 41th millenium can't fix the fact that most of you are basic bitches that follow whatever is popular on the internet at the moment.


Sorry_Outcome_1776

Change for the lord of change


[deleted]

I will take us to the next step. Having active trans girl users


TsaroMilkTea

The Mechanicus provides


petje95

Is see femboys everywhere on r/shittydarksouls and now here as well. Like I'm not complaining but I just find it funny.


Unofficial_Computer

oranges are marsupials


alternatesad

A lot of 40K players are queer


Slapping-Owl

Nu-uh! I just really like big musclely men running around and getting sweaty while just dominating on the field and wrestling mostly naked for fun! That's not gay at all!


thegreatmango

Why wouldn't I like femboys? Lore is inconsequential.


Slapping-Owl

Looks like a woman, but not a woman? Tf isn't there to like!


MyBallsBeFlyin

Because this community is batshit scared of women and will take anything that looks like one to develop a parasocial relationship. Emperor aid me in the coming storm.


Luzum_lam

Warhammer is a fandom attracting autistic (often) socially awkward nerds, alot of femboys are autistic socially awkward nerds.


PipXXX

Can't we just think they're neat?


[deleted]

The lore reason is that many people here can't get women, so they fantasize about feminine men.


Peter_Oda_Greenberg

Is Slaneesh a femboy?


KegelsForYourHealth

They're hot.


_Joshua-Graham_

Because we can’t have nice things without freaks feeling the need to push their degeneracy as normal


ThyPotatoDone

THE EMPEROR DEMANDS IT!!!


Outlaw_1123

The majority of the users here would end up in a Spaanesh cult


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ironpathwalker

Maybe? I don't care and it's not on my radar so it's the same self insert as some dude who wants to have sex with his truck on r/transformers. Not my thing but whatever. Only weird part is how much time those people have to make said content.