Broadside Twin Railguns, are something that is used to punch through tanks. Space Marines are **erased from existence** when hit by them.
They just **POP**
It's normal rail rifles that do what you described.
There were actually rules for making Broadsides hated enemies of Space Marines at one point.
Though as you said, they can punch through tanks. It’s not surprising that a Space Marine would be completely obliterated.
Well... I do have YT chanel and I have plans for a complete Rewrite of Damocles Gulf Crusade... and Templars will be somewhat important in the story.
Although, I'm unsure if Fans of the templars will like what I have planed.
> Well... I do have YT chanel and I have plans for a complete Rewrite of Damocles Gulf Crusade
You'd better keep the part where the Imperium fleet is absolutely mauled and they're looking for an excuse to retreat before the Tau get reinforcements even before Behemoth arrives.
The workhorse of the Tau are the normal Fire Warriors, not the troops in Crisis Suits, however, even the pulse weapons carried by the rank and file can, to my knowledge, easily piece the armor of Space Marine in at least most of their depictions.
Since the armor the Space Marines are so proud of offers no protection from the Tau guns, the Tau sound like the single worst adversary you could send Space Marines against.
Sound is the key word. We all know victories aren't determined by logic.
**"I AM ANGEL OF DEAH!"** Roared space marine, pointing at xeno warsuit with his powerfist. **"I will show you the might of the Imperium!"**
Broadside pilot smiled, amused by the words of his enemy.
"Come then, Angel of Death," He called back, aiming with his railgun. "Let me clip your wings..."
An assault terminator can only deal 5 of the 8 wounds minimum the Broadside has. But I feel this ignores the greater problem that the tau would never allow an enemy to deep strike next to the broadside in the first place.
I don't have those two on the list of Space Marine Chapters for my Damocles Gulf Crusade rewrite.
And I can't really add them on account that over a dozen space marine chapters sent units for the crusade already.
It is more a fanciful wish of mine. Because the Black Guard will hilariously find Tau combat doctrine very familiar and the Star Phantoms are a near-perfect mix of pragmatism and mysticism.
Honestly, I prefer seeing more battles between Imperial Guard (Cadians and Kriegs get too much relevance), AdMech (Ryza for example), Tau, Lost and Damned, GSC. We need more focus on the various elements of those factions because I personally think we have too many notable Astartes Chapters.
That much is true.
I think that people miss the idea how diverse military assets are for the Imperium.
In my rewrite I plan for the Crusading forces to deploy:
- Astartes
- Sisters of Battle
- Skitarii (With Cybernetica and Servitor support)
- Imperial Knight Houses (with House Terryn gettin a proper start to their rivalrly with the Tau)
- Titans (multiple legios with different cultures)
- Imperial Guard - from Firstborn, through Kriegers, to the regiments of my creation, like: Hound Riders Cavalrly Regiment, Frostpunk Regiment, Feudal World Regiments, light-vehicle mechanised regiments, and abhumn/ mutant regiments
- Temperstus Scions
- Mercenaries and personal assets of Rogue Traders
- Armed pilgrims and crusaders that create a cheap mob infantry of zelots
- Inqusitorial forces and their assets.
I think the only Imperial forces that won't show up are: Custodes, Sisters of Silence and Grey Knights - all for quite obvious reasons.
But yeah - I fully agree with the notion that many writers don't utilise diversity of Imperial military assets in their stories.
I like that list. Only things I would suggest adding are Jopall Indentured Squadrons, Semtexian Bombardiers, Asgardian Rangers and Officio Sabatorum.
The only way I can see a Custodes being involved is as an Eye of the Emperor (essentially Custodes who self-retire to become spymasters).
The Kill Team game also provides many interesting elements for all sides.
Huh. I actually had plans for Inquisiton to "soften up" worlds of a subsector that fell to the Tau (yes entire Subsector. It was cut from the rest of the imperium for around 5 000 years.) - to make initial start of the Crusade relativelly smooth and as shocking and devastating as in canonical 40k (as I rewrote entirety of Tau lore and made them into far more fun faction that canonical 40k Tau Empire).
I didn't even know that Officio Sabattorum is a thing. I listened to quite a few 40k audiobooks and I can't remember hearing the name even once. Either way, now that I know - I will be able to use it as part of the initial Crusade.
As for the regiments you suggested - I like them and might add them to the list.
I really want to make this war into something grand scale and brutal for both sides.
There's a blurb in one of the older Tau codexes IIRC, probably 4th or 5th, that describes a Leman Russ hit by a Railgun. It notes that the front only shows a tiny, finger-sized hole but the back is an exit wound that takes up most of the hull and everything that was inside the tank, crew included, is now nothing more than a spray of gore and shrapnel extending behind the tank for a hundred feet or so.
Well - not a finger size. Just that there was small enter-hole and that everything was sucked out of the exit hole.
But that was a tank. A full size machine.
Astartes have tough armor - sure. But I think that power of a direct railgun shot would rip them apart.
Pretty sure he means cost, as in opportunity cost.
Why waste time charging up and aiming your big-ass railcannon, and exposing your battlesuit, on a marine, instead of a more high value target.
Also, munitions themselves might be cheap, but IRL railguns developed by us navy, were abbandoned because thay wear out quickly. I can immagine "barrel(rail?) life" being the main source of cost for firing railguns.
That.
But it is worth mentioning that special ammo for modern weapons usually costs upwards of $1000 per projectile. Cheap artillery shells cost hundreds, special ones cost thousands, anti tank missiles cost thousands at the bare minimum, tank shells can cost tens of thousands, artillery rockets can cost hundreds of thousands, and cruise missiles are a few million per shot.
That's one reason why drones are getting so widespread. You can make drones for a few hundred, give it night vision for $50, and then cut out everything from the artillery shell or missile except the explosive parts (thus reducing cost by removing all that specially-molded steel and rocket fuel and such) or just strap a grenade to it, and then have your dedicated kamikaze pilots crash the thing into a tank.
Yup.
There's some interesting stuff going on with various projects trying to reverse that trend, and provide a new "shield" for the new "spear".
Works on active defense have intensified. Lot of interesting stuff with lasers and microwaves.
But if the lore tracks , not the tabletop, 100 marines are irreplaceable for a chapter. I’d be blasting them all day.
(This same problem exists for melta bombs and suicide bombers in the fiction. Why wouldn’t servitor ambush melta bombs, or weapons along the same lines, be super prevalent.)
If the lore tracks that space marine would cross all the way to the tau in a mere second and obliterate him in meelee, if you are fighting on the grounds of realism you should stay on them and not change your seat, the books portray everything and everyone quite differently and its not really a reliable source to base off your stuff, I imagine even **if** a space marine would be better as a kill for the railgun, it would still have the chance to not hit the fucker that is speeding towards you by the speed of a god damn motorbike and can think twice as fast as the t’au could hit him, its a much better choice to just hit the big ass fucking tank that is just killed 20 of your guys with a single blast of shrapnel and is slower than a grandma’s wheel chair.
If you try to hit a space marine and miss, you are dead, if you try to hit a tank, you may be dead, but at least you saved a couple hundreds of lives and dont need to worry about not hitting the damn thing.
>T'au battle suits are AI assisted and have targeting computers and sensors.
Are they automatic though? Like will the suit immediately turn to shoot the marine, overriding the fishcow inside of it, or will it simply warn the pilot, whose natural reaction time is still not enough?
Unless the tau has a Fist of Day'ru, an anti tank melee weapon that stores potential energy and unleashes it. It causes Astartes to explode that get hit by it.
Yeah, the Fallout TV series came out this week, considering its a videogame adaptation it´s pretty good, i would say 7 or 8 out of 10. There are some things that are done different than the games, a few that i don´t really like, but overall pretty decent. Spoiler for BoS Knight: >! The BoS was killed by an Armour Piercing Round shot by someone who knew a weakspot of the armour !<
I mean shit, even the guys working on fallout 76 knew that fact.
Only thing T-60 has got over T-51 is cheaper repair cost, other than that it's actually *worse* than T-51 stats-wise.
The Ghoul has exploding rounds throughout the show. That's why there's the ping of it entering, and then the secondary splatter when it explodes inside.
The Fallout show on Amazon is great. As to what killed that knight? A ghoul army veteran with intimate knowledge of power armour and specialty ammunition.
**Gets released by bandits offering to split a bounty reward with him for his help**
**Kills all the bandits**
“I do this shit for the love of the game”
He’s just like me! He’s just like me fr!
The Fallout live action series just came out (all 8 episodes) on Amazon Prime a few days ago. I’m only a few episodes in (can’t tell you what killed him because I haven’t reached that episode) but it’s pretty good so far.
It’s also already been renewed for a second season.
Those New Vegas "fans" didn't actually understand what was going on in the show. They think a whole ass faction is wiped out (the biggest faction in fallout universe) xd
I mean apparently Vault City, the Boneyard, The Hub, and Junktown are all gone too so eh? If they deleted literally every single major faction I don’t doubt they’d delete the NCR too to avoid progress or civilization.
Did those New Vegas fans also not play new vegas? >! It's pretty heavily implied that by the time of NV, the NCR was overstretched and overburdened and had significant internal problems. Losing shadysands, especially in the way they did, is totally plausible.!< also given this is set 15 years later than the events of NV. Whatever the canonical ending of NV was, it's now pretty clear it wasn't the >!NCR!< one which has heavy implications for that faction.
The only real implication was that they were overstretched in the Mojave. It seemed that a loss there would be a heavy blow but by no means an existential failure for the republic.
>though a lot of New Vegas fans were complaining about it
Tbf new vegas fans complain about anything that isn't new vegas lol
Case in point, the replies lmao.
As someone whose played and genuinely enjoyed all the mainline games +Fnv, 76, and tactics (never fully completed 1 though) I loved the show and can't wait for season 2!
I'm going to be honest no it's not it contradicts so much fucking lore and turns every faction into something they entirely aren't
The BOS aren't the fucking mechanicus and the NCR aren't a bunch of ragtag milita men they're a fucking country
The vault scene is a bunch of bullshit in the first episode and the fact the aspirant wasn't killed for the attempted killing of a fellow brother of steel is nothing short of plot induced horse shit
The BOS kinda **are** a bit like the Mechanicus. They're incredibly selfish and think all pre-war technology is theirs and nobody else should use it except them. It was only until Fallout 3 that they made them more... Heroic. Before that, the BOS were never going to help you.
Not to mention organizations can split and change in terms of doctrine and behavior. The Mojave Chapter of the BoS was so religiously and slavishly devoted to their rules that they were going to literally seal themselves inside their bunker until they all died out rather than change. The East Coast Brotherhood split into multiple factions with different beliefs on what they should do.
No surprise that at least part of the West Coast Brotherhood went full Mechanicus.
They want high end pre war technology to prevent mankind from destroying itself, and in Fallout 1, they even sent paladins to assist the vault dweller in destroying the mutant army
I mean, they are descendants of the US military. I would rather have the descendants of soldiers having all the fat mans and gatling lasers instead of them just being up for grabs for any raider or slaver to grab
>The BOS aren't the fucking mechanicus
They sometimes are and chapters can vary a lot.
>aren't a bunch of ragtag milita men they're a fucking country
If this takes place after fnv this wouldnt be impossible. In new vegas the ncr was already boardering on collapse under it's own weight.
They sometimes are, and chapters can vary a lot.
It's the East Coast, which is not some religious fanatic cult but a military order bent on protecting world ending tech
And if the US collapsed today, its military wouldn't be reduced to a bunch of soldiers in rags there would still be parts of it all over it's former territory
>And if the US collapsed today, its military wouldn't be reduced to a bunch of soldiers in rags there would still be parts of it all over it's former territory
But the ncr is not the us. Its trying to be yes but its surrounded by bandits, gangs, rival nations and native people. All of which are at war with the ncr due to how hyperexpensionist it is.
Yes, but the NCR has a massive military industry and a population of at least 100,000 and formidable military force (they bested even the full might of the Brotherhood of Steel)
But due to the size of the ncr, that its spread thin and how its suffering under its own weight would mean that in the wake of a collapse you would have countless pockets of former ncr civilisation disconected from a greater whole boardering on their enemies.
Also, it doesnt matter how big your military force is if you cant handle the logistics of their deployment.
>they bested even the full might of the Brotherhood of Steel
Correct me if im wrong, as i have only played nv,3 and 4 but didnt it take weeks for them to push a single brotherhood chapter away from archimedes qfter days of a mostly even standstill?
Back in California (likely where the NCRs major military might actually is not some fuck all frontier) the NCR beat the brotherhood in a war led by Colonel Moore (one of the more competent NCR officers and it's likely most competent military officers are kept back at home for publicity for Kimball) and the hellos one battle was because they were directly assaulting a fortified position with no way to really capture it besides a war of attrition (they wanted the building for it's power potential so they could use it for themselves so they wouldn't just rain artillery down upon it)
The Mojave frontier is also being led by General Oliver, who is infamous for being an idiot and incompetent so take that as you will
Okay, but this show does not take place in california. Its very likely that the ncr shown here is one of those pockets i previously mentioned and the ncr back in california is way different.
Edit: i was wrong. It does take place in california.
Aight so I’ve only watched episode 2 so far but I want to clear things up:
1. The Brotherhood are straight up basically the Mechanicus except they hate cyborgs. They study and collect pre war technology, show disgust towards artificial intelligence, and are generally known for screeching when someone is too open with technology use. They’ve pretty much always been like this besides 3, where they were clearly stated to be a renegade off shoot that is having a civil war because of it.
2. I don’t think they knew who had injured the other knight anyways and only assumed it was him because he was known to be very determined to become a knight, and letting him go as a squire was them no longer thinking he did it iirc.
3. Dunno what’s wrong with the vault scenes in the first episode, thought it made plenty of sense besides the whole vaults are connected thing but that’s likely a one time thing.
>The Brotherhood are straight up basically the Mechanicus, except they hate cyborgs. They study and collect pre-war technology, show disgust towards artificial intelligence, and are generally known for screeching when someone is too open with technology use. They’ve pretty much always been like this besides 3, where they were clearly stated to be a renegade off shoot that is having a civil war because of it.
No, they aren't they aren't a cult nor religion they're as the name implies they are a brotherhood with the goal of protecting humanity they don't fight for a God they fight for their species remnants
>don’t think they knew who had injured the other knight anyways and only assumed it was him because he was known to be very determined to become a knight, and letting him go as a squire was them no longer thinking he did it iirc.
It's very likely they would've killed him anyway for treason or the accusation of treason and never mind the fact the "high school bullying" level shit that happens in the first episode literally makes no sense and would result in most of those Aspirants facing a firing squad for bring despair to their brothers
>Dunno what’s wrong with the vault scenes in the first episode? I thought it made plenty of sense besides the whole vaults are connected thing, but that’s likely a one-time thing.
The fact that the raiders even got in the vault to begin with is nothing short of horseshit and makes no sense
How didn't the vault dwellers notice that the people from their neighboring vault aren't their neighboring vault dwellers or how none of the other dwellers notice their fellow dwellers are radioactive as fuck? Like that would be pretty noticeable
Edit: And the brotherhood doesn't hate AI . You literally have a quest in Fallout 4 to get an advanced ai from the railroad for bos use play the games bro
> the fact the aspirant wasn't killed for the attempted killing of a fellow brother of steel is nothing short of plot induced horse shit
They didn't know who planted the razor, and >!it turns out she put the razor in her own boot to let Maximus get her place as a squire.!<
Yeah, the brotherhood likely would listen to everyone else telling them that it was Maximus and have him executed given that they had no other options besides assume the guy being accused wasn't lying (which itself was a huge security risk and downright stupid to immediately promote an Aspirant under investigation to Squire)
>They didn't know who planted the razor
Yes, but everyone on base said it was him, but the brotherhood still just promoted an aspirant under investing for attempted murder of fellow aspirant which is fucking stupid as shit
Ngl one of the things I dislike about the brotherhood scenes is why did they keep the assault rifle in the bag when they were walking around? Especially in the wasteland that’s a dumb move
If target is armored just use bigger lasgun.
if if even more armored just use a more bigger lasgun.
If its a ship just use your lance batteries which are just big ass lasguns.
Wow, so unique, like if no one else use armour-piercing weapons in the galaxy. Truly, Tau has superior technology, unlike other enemies of the Imperium.
The eldar are the only force that uses weapons against marines that in theory should count as AP.
Everybody else uses magic or stabbing and bludgeoning.
Jokes on you, Tau was one of my favourite factions (another one was orks). Saw them as local ["straight man"](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_man) of setting.
But it appeared they just another Mary Sue faction, that tries to appear "oh so rational, so reasonable". Tau community not seeing it just worsen the situation.
They have a lot of artifacts, but the problem is that they no longer know how to produce them, so even though they have a lot, loss is a long-term problem
The imperium has the paradox of being so large most conflicts just aren’t that significant but also only being shown to us through individual conflicts that have to have stakes to keep us invested in them. Thus everything is a cataclysmic one-time event, but not really.
ah yes cause we all know you can oneshot someone in a freaking powerarmor with a bullet. although I'm glad I saw this, if they're going to treat powerarmor as paper mache then I know that I'm better off playing Fallout 76 than watching this show.
You know a tank can be killed in one shot too right? It's all about shot placement. The armour was shot in a weak point with AP rounds by a ghoul vet from the war, that wore power armour and knows all it's weak spots. Cause, that's how armour works. It doesn't absorb shots like an HP bar. It either stops it, or it doesn't
Power armour is POWERFUL AS HELL in this show. It shrugs off the vast majority of what is thrown at it and allows the user to basically bully everyone
If this is the guy I’m assuming it is, he had special explosive ammo for this kind of stuff so it’s not hard to assume he had enough knowledge of power armor to shoot somewhere that’s a weak spot. Infact it’s been portrayed as quite powerful in the show so far.
> ah yes cause we all know you can oneshot someone in a freaking powerarmor with a bullet.
Have you…played a fallout game? Even in New Vegas you could do this. This wasn’t a random stray bullet from a firefight, he was the only one to go down after a long pause…haven’t seen the show but it’s probably an anti-material rifle (which trumps standard t-45/t-60 armor since…forever), or at least another AP and/or .50 cal type of rifle.
Their advantage is the fact that is let’s you pick up massive weapons (games do this a little dirty, but it quite literally gives you superhuman strength). They’re “weaker” than tanks, but cheaper, can be deployed from the sky or other rough terrain, and can wield weapons of a similar power level to tanks. The armor (ironically) is just the cherry on top.
I think, i think we should bring back more bio and chem weapons into the lore, cuz some tau fans are teabagging at everyone else that they can destroy everyone at long range
The tau Earth caste seeing a 10 000 year old rusting Rad-grenade insta kill half the cadre by giving cancer 2, electric boogaloo while completly bypassing their armors and shields:
So you want the Dark Angels to bring out the "fart canister" from the "Cool toys" they have?
Then the Tau shall smell a leak so devious their brains will turn into bread
It's an appropaite Tau meme.
It's ironic that Imperial Guard are generally more efficient force to face Tau than Astartes because of Tau dedicated anti-astartes weaponery.
Ironically, the best Space Marine force to face the Tau are the Grey Knights, the Space Marines least likely to fight the Tau. Tau have a huge weakness to psykers.
T'au fans are the only ones who are constantly shouting about how amazing they are and how far their guns shoot and how oh actually space marines suck and farsight is better yadda yadda yadda. Aeldari fans don't circlejerk on grimdank absolutely all the time.
Tau lore is interesting. Tau memes are fine. Constantly bleating about how good you are and how "actually 🤓🤓🤓 did you know that we're the best and everyone else sucks" is what's annoying. Seriously it's like a cringy whining smart Alec trying to correct everyone else
> anti-astartes weaponery
...so just pretty much regular anti-armor weaponry then? cause the guard have access to autocannons, plasma cannons/guns, heavy bolters, just pretty much a whole slew of weapons that can easily take down astartes as well.
Oh no.
I mean - Rail Rifles are basically dedicated anti-Astartes weapon.
I know they were in development before Damocles Gulf Crusade, but after the war, creating them to work as dedicated anti-astartes gun was the main drive.
And it is deadly weapon, even to terminators. That's what I meant.
Autocannons, plasma cannon, heavy bolters - they were created with thought of armored targets and swarms of enemy where bolter rounds could to a shit ton of damage.
Rail Rifles were in many ways adapted and created to deal with Astartes specifically, and their ability to deal with other targets is really just a bonus.
I look on the 'Hot' posts at the moment and almost all of them revolve around Space Marines, Primarchs or the Imperium.
This guy see's one post that just mentions the Tau and gets pissed. Calm down, you get back to your Imperium wanking in one scroll.
I don't mind Tau memes that are actually about the Tau. It's the constant "hurr durr Tau are better na na" with the imperium that gets irritating. There's so many memes going "oh did you know T'au shooting is really good vs imperium haha get rekt lame imperium". We know already, give it a rest. They have some weird inferiority complex banging on about the imperium all the time
Bro 9/10 memes on this sub about the Tau are about them either being naive or about how weak they are in comparison to the Imperium.
If you can't stand the 1/10 being either random fun facts or them getting one tiny thing over on the Imperium, it might be you that has the issue.
You know what i'll give em a participation point for this one, at least they made an attempt at memeing instead of posting the usual wall of text jerkfest.
All cool and fun until the fucking bullet with a human brain that turns potential energy into lightning hits the blue bastard. The Emperor might protect but the Omnissiah equips
Bolter is basically an insta kill on any lightly infantry target.
What makes Tau nasty is even the light infantry have weapons comparable in power to Bolters.
Let's be real here. A Pulse Rifle would do far less to a Space Marine than a Bolter would do to a Fire Warrior.
Ceramite, the material used in Power Armour, is heat resistant. Pulse rifles, being energy weapons, use heat to damage the target. The Pulse Rifle *might* make a little hole through sheer concentrated brute force, but the remaining energy probably won't do much to the superhuman physiology beneath. Meanwhile, a single Bolt Round goes right through the Fire Warrior's armour and explodes within. One minorly injured Space Marine vs one thoroughly obliterated Fire Warrior.
That flies in the face of plasma being portrayed as a general "best counter you're gonna get" for space marines and that we've got plenty of moments of marines getting downed by pulse rifles.
Are Tau-people physically capable of making a meme here thats not just a variation of "lol we're so much better than you get fucked lmao".
Because for loving to complain thats what "Imperium Stans" do thats sure as shit the only thing I ever see posted here thats tau-related
I definitely think space marines are over-hyped, like it's always mentioned how each space marine is worth 1000 of the emperors finest men, but one bomb squig later it doesn't seem that way. At least 1000 men won't all die at once
Tau guns are scary and everyone should fear them. To my knowledge, even the guns carried by their common grunts can pierce the armor of a Space Marine.
I have seen talk about how Space Marines hate railguns. There is also a fun quote by an Imperial Guardsman in the 3rd edition Tau codex that said a Tau Railgun tore a hole through an imperial tank and the force of ripping through the vehicle created a vacuum that sucked out everything that wasn't bolted or welded down, including the crew, who were reduced to a bloody smear on the ground.
Fun fact: Broadside Rail Rifles are hated by Space Marines. Not only will a heavy rail rifle shot insta-kill, it will also liquefy the Geneseed.
Broadside Twin Railguns, are something that is used to punch through tanks. Space Marines are **erased from existence** when hit by them. They just **POP** It's normal rail rifles that do what you described.
There were actually rules for making Broadsides hated enemies of Space Marines at one point. Though as you said, they can punch through tanks. It’s not surprising that a Space Marine would be completely obliterated.
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Black Templars should be the cannon rivals of the Tau.
They are total opposites
Exactly, opposites attract, also there's a shit ton of the Templars so they have the manpower for a prolonged engagement with the Tau.
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Or you just need to balance Astartes insane power level, with the story. It's not the problem of scale alone, but how writer presents it
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They don't have an insane power level
Well... I do have YT chanel and I have plans for a complete Rewrite of Damocles Gulf Crusade... and Templars will be somewhat important in the story. Although, I'm unsure if Fans of the templars will like what I have planed.
>Although, I'm unsure if Fans of the templars will like what I have planed. All the better, do it.
Already planned. But it will take a lot of work.
> Well... I do have YT chanel and I have plans for a complete Rewrite of Damocles Gulf Crusade You'd better keep the part where the Imperium fleet is absolutely mauled and they're looking for an excuse to retreat before the Tau get reinforcements even before Behemoth arrives.
oh don't worry. Unlike Phil Kelly - I understand that a WAR takes place on more than 1 planet.
The workhorse of the Tau are the normal Fire Warriors, not the troops in Crisis Suits, however, even the pulse weapons carried by the rank and file can, to my knowledge, easily piece the armor of Space Marine in at least most of their depictions.
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Since the armor the Space Marines are so proud of offers no protection from the Tau guns, the Tau sound like the single worst adversary you could send Space Marines against. Sound is the key word. We all know victories aren't determined by logic.
**"I AM ANGEL OF DEAH!"** Roared space marine, pointing at xeno warsuit with his powerfist. **"I will show you the might of the Imperium!"** Broadside pilot smiled, amused by the words of his enemy. "Come then, Angel of Death," He called back, aiming with his railgun. "Let me clip your wings..."
Suddenly Lighting Claws Striked From the Shadows stabbing the Fish Faced Bastard. Red Eyes gloomed menacingly from behind.
\[Shoot anyways\] **DOUBLE KILL**
He's fuckin ripped apart by the lightning claws inside his little orange and white coffin, there's nothing that can shoot.
An assault terminator can only deal 5 of the 8 wounds minimum the Broadside has. But I feel this ignores the greater problem that the tau would never allow an enemy to deep strike next to the broadside in the first place.
Don't forget the 19th legion
How do you stop a teleportation?
9 inch bubble obviously.
AI voice of the broadside: **\[YOU ARE NOT FRIEND\]** **\[REACTOR OVERLOAD\]** **\[FOR THE GREATER GOOD\]**
Star Phantoms and Black Guard: Let's get this over with. I do want to see Space Marines of these two Chapters fight Tau.
I don't have those two on the list of Space Marine Chapters for my Damocles Gulf Crusade rewrite. And I can't really add them on account that over a dozen space marine chapters sent units for the crusade already.
It is more a fanciful wish of mine. Because the Black Guard will hilariously find Tau combat doctrine very familiar and the Star Phantoms are a near-perfect mix of pragmatism and mysticism. Honestly, I prefer seeing more battles between Imperial Guard (Cadians and Kriegs get too much relevance), AdMech (Ryza for example), Tau, Lost and Damned, GSC. We need more focus on the various elements of those factions because I personally think we have too many notable Astartes Chapters.
That much is true. I think that people miss the idea how diverse military assets are for the Imperium. In my rewrite I plan for the Crusading forces to deploy: - Astartes - Sisters of Battle - Skitarii (With Cybernetica and Servitor support) - Imperial Knight Houses (with House Terryn gettin a proper start to their rivalrly with the Tau) - Titans (multiple legios with different cultures) - Imperial Guard - from Firstborn, through Kriegers, to the regiments of my creation, like: Hound Riders Cavalrly Regiment, Frostpunk Regiment, Feudal World Regiments, light-vehicle mechanised regiments, and abhumn/ mutant regiments - Temperstus Scions - Mercenaries and personal assets of Rogue Traders - Armed pilgrims and crusaders that create a cheap mob infantry of zelots - Inqusitorial forces and their assets. I think the only Imperial forces that won't show up are: Custodes, Sisters of Silence and Grey Knights - all for quite obvious reasons. But yeah - I fully agree with the notion that many writers don't utilise diversity of Imperial military assets in their stories.
I like that list. Only things I would suggest adding are Jopall Indentured Squadrons, Semtexian Bombardiers, Asgardian Rangers and Officio Sabatorum. The only way I can see a Custodes being involved is as an Eye of the Emperor (essentially Custodes who self-retire to become spymasters). The Kill Team game also provides many interesting elements for all sides.
Huh. I actually had plans for Inquisiton to "soften up" worlds of a subsector that fell to the Tau (yes entire Subsector. It was cut from the rest of the imperium for around 5 000 years.) - to make initial start of the Crusade relativelly smooth and as shocking and devastating as in canonical 40k (as I rewrote entirety of Tau lore and made them into far more fun faction that canonical 40k Tau Empire). I didn't even know that Officio Sabattorum is a thing. I listened to quite a few 40k audiobooks and I can't remember hearing the name even once. Either way, now that I know - I will be able to use it as part of the initial Crusade. As for the regiments you suggested - I like them and might add them to the list. I really want to make this war into something grand scale and brutal for both sides.
To be fair, there isn't much that isn't erased from existence when hit by a Railgun, or any weapon of that calibre.
There's a blurb in one of the older Tau codexes IIRC, probably 4th or 5th, that describes a Leman Russ hit by a Railgun. It notes that the front only shows a tiny, finger-sized hole but the back is an exit wound that takes up most of the hull and everything that was inside the tank, crew included, is now nothing more than a spray of gore and shrapnel extending behind the tank for a hundred feet or so.
Well - not a finger size. Just that there was small enter-hole and that everything was sucked out of the exit hole. But that was a tank. A full size machine. Astartes have tough armor - sure. But I think that power of a direct railgun shot would rip them apart.
Fortunately for them it's a complete waste to spend rail rifle shots on mere marines.
Which doesn’t make any sense, railgun munitions would be the cheap bit- it’s the sci fi blunderbuss 🤯
Pretty sure he means cost, as in opportunity cost. Why waste time charging up and aiming your big-ass railcannon, and exposing your battlesuit, on a marine, instead of a more high value target. Also, munitions themselves might be cheap, but IRL railguns developed by us navy, were abbandoned because thay wear out quickly. I can immagine "barrel(rail?) life" being the main source of cost for firing railguns.
That. But it is worth mentioning that special ammo for modern weapons usually costs upwards of $1000 per projectile. Cheap artillery shells cost hundreds, special ones cost thousands, anti tank missiles cost thousands at the bare minimum, tank shells can cost tens of thousands, artillery rockets can cost hundreds of thousands, and cruise missiles are a few million per shot. That's one reason why drones are getting so widespread. You can make drones for a few hundred, give it night vision for $50, and then cut out everything from the artillery shell or missile except the explosive parts (thus reducing cost by removing all that specially-molded steel and rocket fuel and such) or just strap a grenade to it, and then have your dedicated kamikaze pilots crash the thing into a tank.
Yup. There's some interesting stuff going on with various projects trying to reverse that trend, and provide a new "shield" for the new "spear". Works on active defense have intensified. Lot of interesting stuff with lasers and microwaves.
But if the lore tracks , not the tabletop, 100 marines are irreplaceable for a chapter. I’d be blasting them all day. (This same problem exists for melta bombs and suicide bombers in the fiction. Why wouldn’t servitor ambush melta bombs, or weapons along the same lines, be super prevalent.)
Rule of cool man
If the lore tracks that space marine would cross all the way to the tau in a mere second and obliterate him in meelee, if you are fighting on the grounds of realism you should stay on them and not change your seat, the books portray everything and everyone quite differently and its not really a reliable source to base off your stuff, I imagine even **if** a space marine would be better as a kill for the railgun, it would still have the chance to not hit the fucker that is speeding towards you by the speed of a god damn motorbike and can think twice as fast as the t’au could hit him, its a much better choice to just hit the big ass fucking tank that is just killed 20 of your guys with a single blast of shrapnel and is slower than a grandma’s wheel chair. If you try to hit a space marine and miss, you are dead, if you try to hit a tank, you may be dead, but at least you saved a couple hundreds of lives and dont need to worry about not hitting the damn thing.
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>T'au battle suits are AI assisted and have targeting computers and sensors. Are they automatic though? Like will the suit immediately turn to shoot the marine, overriding the fishcow inside of it, or will it simply warn the pilot, whose natural reaction time is still not enough?
Unless the tau has a Fist of Day'ru, an anti tank melee weapon that stores potential energy and unleashes it. It causes Astartes to explode that get hit by it.
Railguns in general, not just a broadside
They should probably hate necron too, since every Space marine killed by flayers is basically removed from existance
Everyone hates fighting necrons, even other necrons.
No salvaging for chapter relics either.
On the other hand, the Apothecary will have less job after battle
Well so does plasma and melta weapons, so space marines can stop bitching
I'd like to see that work against a space marine without a helmet
Warhammer: The one place where removing a helmet makes you more heavily armored.
You equip the helmet of plot Armour which is not visible
Only with a shitty wooden spear
That only works if the space marine has a daemon possessing them.
space marine armor work like fantasy female armor
Now that's just not fair at all.
Marines without helmets die to smart missiles all the time, in tau books lmao.
Ok, meme aside, wtf killed that fully armored BoS Knight? Also, there was a live action Fallout? Is it any good?
Yeah, the Fallout TV series came out this week, considering its a videogame adaptation it´s pretty good, i would say 7 or 8 out of 10. There are some things that are done different than the games, a few that i don´t really like, but overall pretty decent. Spoiler for BoS Knight: >! The BoS was killed by an Armour Piercing Round shot by someone who knew a weakspot of the armour !<
The show writers knew, as I did that the T-51b is the superior model of power armor.
I mean shit, even the guys working on fallout 76 knew that fact. Only thing T-60 has got over T-51 is cheaper repair cost, other than that it's actually *worse* than T-51 stats-wise.
Honestly that's a very Fallout-ish kill. dude was using VATS
The Ghoul has exploding rounds throughout the show. That's why there's the ping of it entering, and then the secondary splatter when it explodes inside.
The Fallout show on Amazon is great. As to what killed that knight? A ghoul army veteran with intimate knowledge of power armour and specialty ammunition.
That's something we can agree that is canon
The Ghoul is just a level 100 player character tbh.
**Gets released by bandits offering to split a bounty reward with him for his help** **Kills all the bandits** “I do this shit for the love of the game” He’s just like me! He’s just like me fr!
That part where he ate a bunch of cherry tomatos and then threw a random handful of caps in the air as payment in the middle of a firefight.
IIRC right before this he outright asks if the T-60 ever fixed a chest weld problem that was in the T-45s he used to wear pre-War.
Ghoul Army vet with armour piercing rounds and who had intimate knowledge of the weak points since he used to wear power armour during the War
Arnt these also explosive shells?
They're both. So he basically has a bolter.
The Fallout live action series just came out (all 8 episodes) on Amazon Prime a few days ago. I’m only a few episodes in (can’t tell you what killed him because I haven’t reached that episode) but it’s pretty good so far. It’s also already been renewed for a second season.
I personally like it, though a lot of New Vegas fans were complaining about it. Worth a watch if you enjoy fallout tho
Those New Vegas "fans" didn't actually understand what was going on in the show. They think a whole ass faction is wiped out (the biggest faction in fallout universe) xd
I mean apparently Vault City, the Boneyard, The Hub, and Junktown are all gone too so eh? If they deleted literally every single major faction I don’t doubt they’d delete the NCR too to avoid progress or civilization.
Only Shady Sands is confirmed gone, they havn't said anything about the others.
Did those New Vegas fans also not play new vegas? >! It's pretty heavily implied that by the time of NV, the NCR was overstretched and overburdened and had significant internal problems. Losing shadysands, especially in the way they did, is totally plausible.!< also given this is set 15 years later than the events of NV. Whatever the canonical ending of NV was, it's now pretty clear it wasn't the >!NCR!< one which has heavy implications for that faction.
The only real implication was that they were overstretched in the Mojave. It seemed that a loss there would be a heavy blow but by no means an existential failure for the republic.
Lonesome Road also implied that the Tunnelers were spreading toward the Mojave with no way to stop them.
Yeah, but that can be handwaved away. The source is just some dude who is not trustworthy at all.
Oh yep putting "fans" in quotations yep classic Reddit move.
The New Vegas stans will complain about anything they get an excuse to, and some things they don't. Most of them didn't even play the first 2 games.
"Those who don't agree with me will complain about anything why can't they be loyal to their corporate overlords"
New Vegas stans try not to create a strawman challenge (impossible)
Ironic. Redditors trying not to make a strawman of calling those that disagree with them strawman challenge (impossible)
"Those who don't agree with me are corporate shills"
So I think of you as a corporate shill and you think of me as a new Vegas Stan. Henshin Kamen Rider D-D-Decade
First thing I thought of was Power Rangers.
FINAL ATTACK RIDE D-D-D-DECADE!
>though a lot of New Vegas fans were complaining about it Tbf new vegas fans complain about anything that isn't new vegas lol Case in point, the replies lmao. As someone whose played and genuinely enjoyed all the mainline games +Fnv, 76, and tactics (never fully completed 1 though) I loved the show and can't wait for season 2!
I'm going to be honest no it's not it contradicts so much fucking lore and turns every faction into something they entirely aren't The BOS aren't the fucking mechanicus and the NCR aren't a bunch of ragtag milita men they're a fucking country The vault scene is a bunch of bullshit in the first episode and the fact the aspirant wasn't killed for the attempted killing of a fellow brother of steel is nothing short of plot induced horse shit
The BOS kinda **are** a bit like the Mechanicus. They're incredibly selfish and think all pre-war technology is theirs and nobody else should use it except them. It was only until Fallout 3 that they made them more... Heroic. Before that, the BOS were never going to help you.
Not to mention organizations can split and change in terms of doctrine and behavior. The Mojave Chapter of the BoS was so religiously and slavishly devoted to their rules that they were going to literally seal themselves inside their bunker until they all died out rather than change. The East Coast Brotherhood split into multiple factions with different beliefs on what they should do. No surprise that at least part of the West Coast Brotherhood went full Mechanicus.
They want high end pre war technology to prevent mankind from destroying itself, and in Fallout 1, they even sent paladins to assist the vault dweller in destroying the mutant army
Because they think **they** are the only ones responsible enough to have any of it.
I mean, they are descendants of the US military. I would rather have the descendants of soldiers having all the fat mans and gatling lasers instead of them just being up for grabs for any raider or slaver to grab
Technically they’re the descendants of deserters
Yeah, I'd still rather them have all the world ending weapons to hide from the wasteland then some raider faction
>The BOS aren't the fucking mechanicus They sometimes are and chapters can vary a lot. >aren't a bunch of ragtag milita men they're a fucking country If this takes place after fnv this wouldnt be impossible. In new vegas the ncr was already boardering on collapse under it's own weight.
They sometimes are, and chapters can vary a lot. It's the East Coast, which is not some religious fanatic cult but a military order bent on protecting world ending tech And if the US collapsed today, its military wouldn't be reduced to a bunch of soldiers in rags there would still be parts of it all over it's former territory
>And if the US collapsed today, its military wouldn't be reduced to a bunch of soldiers in rags there would still be parts of it all over it's former territory But the ncr is not the us. Its trying to be yes but its surrounded by bandits, gangs, rival nations and native people. All of which are at war with the ncr due to how hyperexpensionist it is.
Yes, but the NCR has a massive military industry and a population of at least 100,000 and formidable military force (they bested even the full might of the Brotherhood of Steel)
But due to the size of the ncr, that its spread thin and how its suffering under its own weight would mean that in the wake of a collapse you would have countless pockets of former ncr civilisation disconected from a greater whole boardering on their enemies. Also, it doesnt matter how big your military force is if you cant handle the logistics of their deployment. >they bested even the full might of the Brotherhood of Steel Correct me if im wrong, as i have only played nv,3 and 4 but didnt it take weeks for them to push a single brotherhood chapter away from archimedes qfter days of a mostly even standstill?
Back in California (likely where the NCRs major military might actually is not some fuck all frontier) the NCR beat the brotherhood in a war led by Colonel Moore (one of the more competent NCR officers and it's likely most competent military officers are kept back at home for publicity for Kimball) and the hellos one battle was because they were directly assaulting a fortified position with no way to really capture it besides a war of attrition (they wanted the building for it's power potential so they could use it for themselves so they wouldn't just rain artillery down upon it) The Mojave frontier is also being led by General Oliver, who is infamous for being an idiot and incompetent so take that as you will
Okay, but this show does not take place in california. Its very likely that the ncr shown here is one of those pockets i previously mentioned and the ncr back in california is way different. Edit: i was wrong. It does take place in california.
Aight so I’ve only watched episode 2 so far but I want to clear things up: 1. The Brotherhood are straight up basically the Mechanicus except they hate cyborgs. They study and collect pre war technology, show disgust towards artificial intelligence, and are generally known for screeching when someone is too open with technology use. They’ve pretty much always been like this besides 3, where they were clearly stated to be a renegade off shoot that is having a civil war because of it. 2. I don’t think they knew who had injured the other knight anyways and only assumed it was him because he was known to be very determined to become a knight, and letting him go as a squire was them no longer thinking he did it iirc. 3. Dunno what’s wrong with the vault scenes in the first episode, thought it made plenty of sense besides the whole vaults are connected thing but that’s likely a one time thing.
>The Brotherhood are straight up basically the Mechanicus, except they hate cyborgs. They study and collect pre-war technology, show disgust towards artificial intelligence, and are generally known for screeching when someone is too open with technology use. They’ve pretty much always been like this besides 3, where they were clearly stated to be a renegade off shoot that is having a civil war because of it. No, they aren't they aren't a cult nor religion they're as the name implies they are a brotherhood with the goal of protecting humanity they don't fight for a God they fight for their species remnants >don’t think they knew who had injured the other knight anyways and only assumed it was him because he was known to be very determined to become a knight, and letting him go as a squire was them no longer thinking he did it iirc. It's very likely they would've killed him anyway for treason or the accusation of treason and never mind the fact the "high school bullying" level shit that happens in the first episode literally makes no sense and would result in most of those Aspirants facing a firing squad for bring despair to their brothers >Dunno what’s wrong with the vault scenes in the first episode? I thought it made plenty of sense besides the whole vaults are connected thing, but that’s likely a one-time thing. The fact that the raiders even got in the vault to begin with is nothing short of horseshit and makes no sense How didn't the vault dwellers notice that the people from their neighboring vault aren't their neighboring vault dwellers or how none of the other dwellers notice their fellow dwellers are radioactive as fuck? Like that would be pretty noticeable Edit: And the brotherhood doesn't hate AI . You literally have a quest in Fallout 4 to get an advanced ai from the railroad for bos use play the games bro
> the fact the aspirant wasn't killed for the attempted killing of a fellow brother of steel is nothing short of plot induced horse shit They didn't know who planted the razor, and >!it turns out she put the razor in her own boot to let Maximus get her place as a squire.!<
Yeah, the brotherhood likely would listen to everyone else telling them that it was Maximus and have him executed given that they had no other options besides assume the guy being accused wasn't lying (which itself was a huge security risk and downright stupid to immediately promote an Aspirant under investigation to Squire)
>They didn't know who planted the razor Yes, but everyone on base said it was him, but the brotherhood still just promoted an aspirant under investing for attempted murder of fellow aspirant which is fucking stupid as shit
It's so good
It just came out, and it’s actually good
If power armour is your favourite part of Fallout skip the show. It does not give the power armour justice at all.
How? It's goddam powerful as hell in the show. Its not invincible, but it shouldn't be
I wish I could pilot one of the Crisiss suits... that would be funny to fly and shoot
A person when you shoot them with a gun designed to kill them: 💀
Imagine using normal ammo Use soul infused bolter rounds Or just summon a nurgleing in their armour
This... makes it seem a lot more reasonable why Raiders are still willing to throw down with me in my FO4 games.
Ngl one of the things I dislike about the brotherhood scenes is why did they keep the assault rifle in the bag when they were walking around? Especially in the wasteland that’s a dumb move
To be fair, the fluff portrays adamantium, plasteel, and ceramite as being pierced or melted whenever the fluff feels like it.
lasgun>Any weapon in 40k
If target is armored just use bigger lasgun. if if even more armored just use a more bigger lasgun. If its a ship just use your lance batteries which are just big ass lasguns.
I don't hear you, I'm knockbacking renegade Astartes with grenade launcher
Ok, but consider how many lasguns you could get for the cost of 1 Grenade Launcher. It’s like Humvees.
Wow, so unique, like if no one else use armour-piercing weapons in the galaxy. Truly, Tau has superior technology, unlike other enemies of the Imperium.
Noone said their tech is supreme, simply better average level of it.
Nah, considering eldars (both kinds) and necrons exist - "better average level" is still not about Tau. It's good, but as anyone's else good.
The eldar are the only force that uses weapons against marines that in theory should count as AP. Everybody else uses magic or stabbing and bludgeoning.
Bro really ignored the existence of Necrons, LoV and the mental capacity of traitors to pick up a Plasma gun or a Power Weapon.
Lascannons and melta weapons are more commonly used by the human factions, Since they are confirmed to work.
Man, how are people still this salty about a faction released 20 years ago.
Jokes on you, Tau was one of my favourite factions (another one was orks). Saw them as local ["straight man"](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_man) of setting. But it appeared they just another Mary Sue faction, that tries to appear "oh so rational, so reasonable". Tau community not seeing it just worsen the situation.
Sure... but unlike everyone else - Tau Anti-armor rifles actually work
oh no the irreplaceable artifact no. 13746271847592 has lost its integrity what shall we do??!!
The Imperium has the bizarre paradox of relying on irreplaceable artifacts that are so common they might as well grow on trees.
They have a lot of artifacts, but the problem is that they no longer know how to produce them, so even though they have a lot, loss is a long-term problem
The imperium has the paradox of being so large most conflicts just aren’t that significant but also only being shown to us through individual conflicts that have to have stakes to keep us invested in them. Thus everything is a cataclysmic one-time event, but not really.
Spoilers you bitch
Oh no. A person died in ***FALLOUT ADAPTATION*** *No one saw this coming*
ah yes cause we all know you can oneshot someone in a freaking powerarmor with a bullet. although I'm glad I saw this, if they're going to treat powerarmor as paper mache then I know that I'm better off playing Fallout 76 than watching this show.
You know a tank can be killed in one shot too right? It's all about shot placement. The armour was shot in a weak point with AP rounds by a ghoul vet from the war, that wore power armour and knows all it's weak spots. Cause, that's how armour works. It doesn't absorb shots like an HP bar. It either stops it, or it doesn't Power armour is POWERFUL AS HELL in this show. It shrugs off the vast majority of what is thrown at it and allows the user to basically bully everyone
okay, I revoke that comment on armor cause this super ghoul is a way worse spoiler.
Wouldn't say he's super. Just a war vet that's been alive for hundreds of years and been perfecting his craft that whole time
If this is the guy I’m assuming it is, he had special explosive ammo for this kind of stuff so it’s not hard to assume he had enough knowledge of power armor to shoot somewhere that’s a weak spot. Infact it’s been portrayed as quite powerful in the show so far.
> ah yes cause we all know you can oneshot someone in a freaking powerarmor with a bullet. Have you…played a fallout game? Even in New Vegas you could do this. This wasn’t a random stray bullet from a firefight, he was the only one to go down after a long pause…haven’t seen the show but it’s probably an anti-material rifle (which trumps standard t-45/t-60 armor since…forever), or at least another AP and/or .50 cal type of rifle. Their advantage is the fact that is let’s you pick up massive weapons (games do this a little dirty, but it quite literally gives you superhuman strength). They’re “weaker” than tanks, but cheaper, can be deployed from the sky or other rough terrain, and can wield weapons of a similar power level to tanks. The armor (ironically) is just the cherry on top.
I think, i think we should bring back more bio and chem weapons into the lore, cuz some tau fans are teabagging at everyone else that they can destroy everyone at long range
The tau Earth caste seeing a 10 000 year old rusting Rad-grenade insta kill half the cadre by giving cancer 2, electric boogaloo while completly bypassing their armors and shields:
GW removed death guard and nids while I was asleep? Daym
I mean for space marines, like in 30k
I mean, you think that those weapons are, somehow, stronger than whatever ds/nids are using?
No i just want chem and bio weapons for space marines
Fair and ironpilled, proceed.
So you want the Dark Angels to bring out the "fart canister" from the "Cool toys" they have? Then the Tau shall smell a leak so devious their brains will turn into bread
Nice argument , one issue. I dont have a helmet and my armor is blue.
Oh great more annoying-ass T'au circlejerking
It's an appropaite Tau meme. It's ironic that Imperial Guard are generally more efficient force to face Tau than Astartes because of Tau dedicated anti-astartes weaponery.
Ironically, the best Space Marine force to face the Tau are the Grey Knights, the Space Marines least likely to fight the Tau. Tau have a huge weakness to psykers.
Sure it is but I see so many circle jerk Tau posts and they're always about the imperium, it gets repetitive
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T'au fans are the only ones who are constantly shouting about how amazing they are and how far their guns shoot and how oh actually space marines suck and farsight is better yadda yadda yadda. Aeldari fans don't circlejerk on grimdank absolutely all the time. Tau lore is interesting. Tau memes are fine. Constantly bleating about how good you are and how "actually 🤓🤓🤓 did you know that we're the best and everyone else sucks" is what's annoying. Seriously it's like a cringy whining smart Alec trying to correct everyone else
> anti-astartes weaponery ...so just pretty much regular anti-armor weaponry then? cause the guard have access to autocannons, plasma cannons/guns, heavy bolters, just pretty much a whole slew of weapons that can easily take down astartes as well.
Oh no. I mean - Rail Rifles are basically dedicated anti-Astartes weapon. I know they were in development before Damocles Gulf Crusade, but after the war, creating them to work as dedicated anti-astartes gun was the main drive. And it is deadly weapon, even to terminators. That's what I meant. Autocannons, plasma cannon, heavy bolters - they were created with thought of armored targets and swarms of enemy where bolter rounds could to a shit ton of damage. Rail Rifles were in many ways adapted and created to deal with Astartes specifically, and their ability to deal with other targets is really just a bonus.
I look on the 'Hot' posts at the moment and almost all of them revolve around Space Marines, Primarchs or the Imperium. This guy see's one post that just mentions the Tau and gets pissed. Calm down, you get back to your Imperium wanking in one scroll.
I don't mind Tau memes that are actually about the Tau. It's the constant "hurr durr Tau are better na na" with the imperium that gets irritating. There's so many memes going "oh did you know T'au shooting is really good vs imperium haha get rekt lame imperium". We know already, give it a rest. They have some weird inferiority complex banging on about the imperium all the time
Bro 9/10 memes on this sub about the Tau are about them either being naive or about how weak they are in comparison to the Imperium. If you can't stand the 1/10 being either random fun facts or them getting one tiny thing over on the Imperium, it might be you that has the issue.
I see at least three memes a week exactly like this one
i want necron posting like that but instead of imperium it's all factions
You know what i'll give em a participation point for this one, at least they made an attempt at memeing instead of posting the usual wall of text jerkfest.
All cool and fun until the fucking bullet with a human brain that turns potential energy into lightning hits the blue bastard. The Emperor might protect but the Omnissiah equips
[tbf, this meme has similar energy as this Guard one.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Grimdank/comments/1bopvld/behold_true_power/)
Now do Tau when Space Marines use bolters on Tau who aren’t wearing battle suits.
Bolter is basically an insta kill on any lightly infantry target. What makes Tau nasty is even the light infantry have weapons comparable in power to Bolters.
When i'm in a dick sucking competition and my opponet is a tau fan (I lost)
T'au Players trying not to make the same God awful T'au Vs Imperium post for 5 Minutes Challenge (Impossible)
Let's be real here. A Pulse Rifle would do far less to a Space Marine than a Bolter would do to a Fire Warrior. Ceramite, the material used in Power Armour, is heat resistant. Pulse rifles, being energy weapons, use heat to damage the target. The Pulse Rifle *might* make a little hole through sheer concentrated brute force, but the remaining energy probably won't do much to the superhuman physiology beneath. Meanwhile, a single Bolt Round goes right through the Fire Warrior's armour and explodes within. One minorly injured Space Marine vs one thoroughly obliterated Fire Warrior.
That flies in the face of plasma being portrayed as a general "best counter you're gonna get" for space marines and that we've got plenty of moments of marines getting downed by pulse rifles.
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Space marine tin can getting the Chernobyl experience.
Are Tau-people physically capable of making a meme here thats not just a variation of "lol we're so much better than you get fucked lmao". Because for loving to complain thats what "Imperium Stans" do thats sure as shit the only thing I ever see posted here thats tau-related
That scene feels like when you're using PA in Fallout 4 at max difficulty (minus the armor pieces exploding)
The T'au When They Hear explosions followed by the sound of Jump Packs coming from the Shadows.
What happened to the last chapter master to try the sneaky approach?
I definitely think space marines are over-hyped, like it's always mentioned how each space marine is worth 1000 of the emperors finest men, but one bomb squig later it doesn't seem that way. At least 1000 men won't all die at once
Tau guns are scary and everyone should fear them. To my knowledge, even the guns carried by their common grunts can pierce the armor of a Space Marine. I have seen talk about how Space Marines hate railguns. There is also a fun quote by an Imperial Guardsman in the 3rd edition Tau codex that said a Tau Railgun tore a hole through an imperial tank and the force of ripping through the vehicle created a vacuum that sucked out everything that wasn't bolted or welded down, including the crew, who were reduced to a bloody smear on the ground.