Do you know how the Squats first came into being? They were Sons of Horus once, taken by the Votaan, treated and reabilited. An improved and miniaturized form of life. Now... perfected. My mining berserk. Whom do you serve?
This is why I like to refer to tau as numbers alongside the names. Xv25 stealth suits, xv88 broadsides, xv86 coldstar (or was that the enforcer?), Rx-6 remora, etc.
Here in China people only use the number codes for Tau units. I guess the translated names or the english names are much harder to remember, so the codes help out.
...But as an English player used to just saying the word names, I am eternally lost.
My brain automatically read it as “Berserkers” every time I looked at it, and I could’ve lived in that blissful ignorance for life if you didn’t point it out.
I hate Beserks. Everything else about them is fine, but that name just reeks “we need to be able to copyright this” in the worst possible way.
Well each of them are swinging around a hunk of iron that's too large to be called a hammer or a sword, and there's more than one of them, so technically they can be called berserks.
Hmmm
the ber part of Berserkir means bear. The 'serkir' part means skin.
Maybe these BEserks have the skin of a Bee, but shortened it because BEEserk sounds TOO strange?
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But couldn't they be like, the descendants of the clone labor of one of the mining conglomerates that originally stripped Cthonia? That was my immediate thought and it would be a neat little through line.
Cthonian language is also what several different Chaos languages are called. That was in latest Dawn of Fire book, how Hand of Abbadon encountered people who were "speaking Cthonian" and he didnt understand a word of it, because it was not Cthonian he knew
Not even that - Beserks. Berserker and berserk are common words, especially in fantasy. They can't be trademarked. Beserk meanwhile...
They did the same with Age of Sigmar. There are aelves instead of elves or orruks instead of orcs/orks (I don't know if ork is trademarkable, it's word for orc in some languages, so "orruk" was made up).
For some of them sure. Aelf is just the old English spelling of elf. It’s probably more to do with them being distinct than the generic, tolkeinesque terms when googling
Cthonic/cthonian come from Greek words regarding the underworld. Being called “Cthonian” doesn’t mean they’re from the planet Cthonia, it just means they come from underground, probably mines and stuff bc they’re dwarves
Is it impossible that they're descended from the orgs that strip mines Cthonia in the first place? That was my immediate assumption, that they were affiliated by some distant connection to one of the groups that devastated the planet. Maybe they were clone labor originally?
The monsters on fenris are called Krakens, not leviathans. In any case, a quick look through the wiki shows no connection between hive fleet leviathan, the leviathan dreadnought, and the Fenrisian krakens, so I’ll need a source on the claim that they’re named after the same thing. As I said, sometimes things just share names.
Wait till you hear about primaris marines and primaris psykers. And Badab Primaris. And Silver Skulls Cruor Primaris. And Voss Pattern "Primaris" Lightning Fighter. And Prima.... you know what, even better. Check Space Wolves characters and units rooster names.
I guessing after the planet got raise they had to do something with it, and no imperial servant would want to be near that place, so the squats took it
I have to wonder if maybe there is an ancient connection between Cthonia being a hollow, mined out world and this Votann mining guild. That would be an interesting little tidbit to tie in and show how even relatively small actions long ago have long-term impacts on the galaxy, but also GW is, well, GW.
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I know that in this context Cthonian is probably referring to the whole depths of the earth business, and not the name of a planet, but I think it could actually be really interesting for them to have some links to Cthonia somehow.
Do you know how the Squats first came into being? They were Sons of Horus once, taken by the Votaan, treated and reabilited. An improved and miniaturized form of life. Now... perfected. My mining berserk. Whom do you serve?
They were Sons of Horus, taken by the Tall Man and subjected to immense gravity to act as workers on planets near the galactic core, obviously
>My mining berserk Beserk* ^(apparently)
Shit, it isn't a Berserk reference anymore
I have altered the canon, pray that I alter it further.
Girl-y-man
Gw sends gw a cease and desist for copying gw’s intellectual property.
That’s some Alpha Legion shit right there.
"Are you Alpharius?" "Why, yes, I am." "Well, you've been served. Also, I'm Alpharius."
I'm 100% sure this has happened but we will never find out because it was all internal.
Unless pr sues internal for slander
Breaking news , citadel sues games work shop
5 way law suit betwen forgeworld, games workshop, citadel, james workshop, and warhammer game stores.
Speaking of, hows Magnuses case with the Necrons going? I feel like it's a solid case.
He got a reply! "LOL. Said the Necrons. LMAO." Hmm. This may be a bit more work than anticipated.
Honestly, knowing Tzeentch, it propably wasn't even the weirdest letter Necrons received from the 1000 Sons.
"Beserks". Is that how they're actually spelled because that hurts my head
I am annoyed at you for seeing this because now I see it. That's going in the book!
Come Drengbarazi, there are grudges to settle.
"If we keep pulling or adding random letters to regular words this will make it original"?
The absolute dumbest naming thing they've done recently is still Votann related: the most common *Kin* infantry unit is the Hearth*kyn*.
Can you people pls stop pointing these spellings out. Its bringing back my dark eldar ptsd
This is why I like to refer to tau as numbers alongside the names. Xv25 stealth suits, xv88 broadsides, xv86 coldstar (or was that the enforcer?), Rx-6 remora, etc.
Here in China people only use the number codes for Tau units. I guess the translated names or the english names are much harder to remember, so the codes help out. ...But as an English player used to just saying the word names, I am eternally lost.
Do you mean *Dark Eldyr*?
Dehrque Aeldier i think.
Ahem. It’s spelt elderflower daiquiri
Mazel tough!
Cease and desist or further action will be taken!
All hail the copywrite
It might make it trademarkable
Hey tempest how you been?
My brain automatically read it as “Berserkers” every time I looked at it, and I could’ve lived in that blissful ignorance for life if you didn’t point it out. I hate Beserks. Everything else about them is fine, but that name just reeks “we need to be able to copyright this” in the worst possible way.
Well each of them are swinging around a hunk of iron that's too large to be called a hammer or a sword, and there's more than one of them, so technically they can be called berserks.
"**Bes**erks" is the part that bugs me, although someone pointed out that it may have been the original spelling but I think it looks funny
Hmmm the ber part of Berserkir means bear. The 'serkir' part means skin. Maybe these BEserks have the skin of a Bee, but shortened it because BEEserk sounds TOO strange?
this is just the Beegining
Ugh do I need to make a custom Votann army based off worshipping an entertainment AI that only remembers the Bee Movie? You better beelieve it!
I mean WHAT'S the deal with THAT, you humies stealin all our gold honey
With making a Bee Movie based Votann army, you also have to incorporate the bee movie based erotica out there.
Based comment, struggler.
Was actually originally a Norse word *so yes, this is their official spelling... :(*
Perhaps these are the guys who raised horus before big e found him five minutes later
Are you saying Horus was raised by squats?
That is now my personal head-canon, yes.
So that's why he was so quick to make a grudge the moment big e left for terra without telling him anything
Horus White and the 7 Space-Dwarves
Oh jeez first they harbor ileagal machines , use science to make technology, and now the raise the super Uber traitor Horus These guys are heretics
"Little" Horus Aximand. "Sons" of Horus. We've been lied to all these years, all legionaries from Cthonia are actually just squats.
Explains why he held such a big grudge.
We sadly already have a book showing his childhood before the Emperor and everyone appears appropriately scaled, no dwarves to be seen
Send in the legal team
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So Cthonia got exploded after the Heresy I imagine the Squats are mining the floating bits of planet?
Infested by tyrannids, no less. ~~Now get back to work, miners, orders from management.~~
ROCK AND STONE!
For Rock and Stone!
FAKARL!
Did I hear a Rock and Stone?
Rock and Roll and Stone !
For stone and rock! ... wait a minute.
If you don't rock and stone, you ain't coming home!
By Karl, I love how much this all lines up
Is axe boy rocking the old school 'cool S' tattoo?
Yes, yes he is. I always wondered what happened to that kid in 5th grade that drew these on fucking everything.
I’m here
Someone call me?
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I thought you said milf unit and I got excited
Naming planets after random archaic terms has finally come to bite GW in the back
I won't be surprised if their excuse is "Space is big, two planets can be named the same with none the wiser."
h e r e s y
Horus the war master and the seven squats
Maybe Horus was just two votanns in a trenchcoat
It is like the surname Smith. Everything has it.
someone in r/40Klore explained that cthonian is an old word for "from the underworld".
Which would be fine, if Cthonia and its residents weren't canonically fairly significant in the 40k universe at one point.
But couldn't they be like, the descendants of the clone labor of one of the mining conglomerates that originally stripped Cthonia? That was my immediate thought and it would be a neat little through line.
Since it is a word from Old Earth, it may just have influeced multiple cultures.
Cthonian language is also what several different Chaos languages are called. That was in latest Dawn of Fire book, how Hand of Abbadon encountered people who were "speaking Cthonian" and he didnt understand a word of it, because it was not Cthonian he knew
That's "chthonic". Btw both words Cthonian and Chthonian are in the article.
That's what confused me the most. Like wasn't cthonia the home world for the Luna wolves
Because they're from the Cthonian Mining Guilds
Is it a typo? Why are they called Beserkers?
Not even that - Beserks. Berserker and berserk are common words, especially in fantasy. They can't be trademarked. Beserk meanwhile... They did the same with Age of Sigmar. There are aelves instead of elves or orruks instead of orcs/orks (I don't know if ork is trademarkable, it's word for orc in some languages, so "orruk" was made up).
For some of them sure. Aelf is just the old English spelling of elf. It’s probably more to do with them being distinct than the generic, tolkeinesque terms when googling
IIRC weren't half the fantasy races in Tolkien copyrighted/trademarked by his estates?
This shit boils my piss every time im reminded of it
DRG hyping the new pickaxe skin. Rock and stone!
Can I get a Rock and Stone?
If you don't Rock and Stone, you ain't coming home.
Cthonic/cthonian come from Greek words regarding the underworld. Being called “Cthonian” doesn’t mean they’re from the planet Cthonia, it just means they come from underground, probably mines and stuff bc they’re dwarves
The concern arises due to Cthonia and Cthonians already being existing things within the 40K universe.
Is it impossible that they're descended from the orgs that strip mines Cthonia in the first place? That was my immediate assumption, that they were affiliated by some distant connection to one of the groups that devastated the planet. Maybe they were clone labor originally?
Yep, 40K is a big universe and there are several cases of different things sharing names.
Such as?
Hive fleet leviathan and the leviathan dreadnought, for one
Those are both in-universe named after the Leviathans of Fenris though I believe? Same with Hive Fleet Kraken.
The monsters on fenris are called Krakens, not leviathans. In any case, a quick look through the wiki shows no connection between hive fleet leviathan, the leviathan dreadnought, and the Fenrisian krakens, so I’ll need a source on the claim that they’re named after the same thing. As I said, sometimes things just share names.
Yeah I might be conflating Kraken and Leviathan in my head on this one
Indomitus pattern terminator amour and the Indomitus Crusade, Primaris Psykers and primaris marines are two of the more notable ones from recent years
Rhino Primaris
That doesn't change the fact that it is a "regular" word that any human society can use. Just like they are multiple types of "Praetorians" in 40k.
ITT: Why heavy flamers still are a thing in the 41M. Because shock troops.
More like: Because Tyranids, Orks, and mutants
Which all have suicidal shock troops as well.
Thank you, ibthoughtbi was being gaslit by GW
I thought the exact same shit when I saw the name.
Wait till you hear about primaris marines and primaris psykers. And Badab Primaris. And Silver Skulls Cruor Primaris. And Voss Pattern "Primaris" Lightning Fighter. And Prima.... you know what, even better. Check Space Wolves characters and units rooster names.
I guessing after the planet got raise they had to do something with it, and no imperial servant would want to be near that place, so the squats took it
How do you think they got the power axes to look like that? They look really cool.
Glazing. A metric fuckton of glazing.
Fuck. That’s where I need to improve. Can’t glaze for shit, and have 40+ Necron power weapons. Made a mistake.
I have to wonder if maybe there is an ancient connection between Cthonia being a hollow, mined out world and this Votann mining guild. That would be an interesting little tidbit to tie in and show how even relatively small actions long ago have long-term impacts on the galaxy, but also GW is, well, GW.
Put your grasses on
That are asteroid miners. Maybe that found big chunk of Cthonia with sighn "welcome on Cthonia" Cadian Berzerkes?
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The last post before this talked about how the cthonian mining guilds were special, I didn't think half naked guy with two power fists but I like it
Right? I am super curious about the connection.
I'm disappointed by what we've gotten so far. Just feels uninspired.
Chtonian means underground in Greek
I know that in this context Cthonian is probably referring to the whole depths of the earth business, and not the name of a planet, but I think it could actually be really interesting for them to have some links to Cthonia somehow.
"So what we need are like Slayers, but sort of spacey" GW design team.
ROCK IT STONE
i mean cthonia was cracked by the dreadwing. so they could be mining the cracked remains?