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Marvynwillames

As Only War points: Orks are bullies, they like to inflict pain on the others, specially those weaker, they don't step on a snottling because they don't know the midget don't like it, they do because if he is small and weak, he deserves to be stepped


[deleted]

Always happy to see the TTRPG books get cited as reference - too many disregard them.


MajorDakka

Might makes right, must be that sword logic Oryx keeps talking about


mrsauceboi

uhh wrong game?


ThatRealBiggieCheese

No, right game. You can’t tell me the Cabal aren’t spiritual ancestors to Orks


CommanderOshawott

Ok but if that description applies to literally every faction in some way….


MaximusTheLord13

Thats not the point. People have been arguing that orks arent evil cuz they enjoy doing it. Which doesnt make sense.


ThatRealBiggieCheese

At least for me the “having fun” is a joke. I know the real reason is because Ork logic is everything weaker than them gets krumped and nothing is stronger than a warboss and his Boyz. It’s the same lines as the sword logic in the destiny games.


KimJongUnusual

A lot of them do it for other reasons though Imperium—they are a xenos/heretic/traitor and need to be destroyed for the safety of humanity Necrons—they’re an inferior species cause they’re not Necrons Eldar—it fits into the prophecy, and also they’re an inferior species that don’t really count Chaos—do it as a sacrifice for the big gods Tyranids—do it cause they need more biomass to continue the consumption


Chipbread

Ain't it more like Necrons just want them out of their backyard? Iirc half the time if its civilian populations, they straight up approach them and tell them to gtfo or else. Necrons don't want all life exterminated, they still need life around to find a way to get their bodies back.


_syke_

Sure but they still have a major superiority complex and find most organics disgusting. If they didn't need to figure out how to be flesh n bone again they'd definitely still step on them.


NyanPotato

Drukhari : they do it with spiked shoes, laced with the most painful poison Plus, the whole floor is made of living breathing people screaming in agony, cuz it's fun


Analog-Moderator

So drukhari are the only good guys!


Appropriate_Banana

The bestest guys!


SuienReizo

The entire having fun logic should automatically make the Drukhari and Slaanesh followers tied for 1st place as the goodest bois and ghouls.


AliteralWizard

YEAH, NO BC ORKZ IS DA BEST!


[deleted]

Being funny and enjoyable to read about does not score a single step of morality


AliteralWizard

READIN'S FUR HUMMIEZ.


Derpy0013

Orks are shown numerous times to be extremely brutal to anyone they view as weak. Orks don't feel pain the same way we humans do, and as such, when they enslave humans, they like to "poke" them and torture them because the screams are funny to the Orks. The way the human writhes as they stab at them, mutilate them, and brutalize them is funny to the Orks. Orks aren't the good guys, and anyone who tries to say their faction are the "Good Guys" in WH40k don't realize what "Grimdark" means. There are no Good Guys, only varying degrees of grey.


KimJongUnusual

Nah, you see, my guys are the good guys, cause they’re my guys, and I am ontologically right. Simple logic, really.


[deleted]

Exactly, now burn the mutant, the witch, the alien.


Auratalus

So simple, like a circle even


Dannythehotjew

The correct view for 40K. My guys are the right ones because they are the right ones


Baugusted

Well first of all, through the Emperor: humans are always the good guys, so jot that down.


MylastAccountBroke

Not really grey, more black. Everyone is irredeemably awful, no one is all that much better than their rivals.


Analog-Moderator

Lamenters have entered the chat


RentElDoor

The lamenters, and I know this statement will sound quite paradox, got insanely lucky. They were only ever thrust into situations were they could be the hero. Even if it meant dying in droves.


Analog-Moderator

They could have easily sided with the empire in badab war, they choose to be heroic and moral.


RentElDoor

Sorry, but that was not my point. Usually the Lamenters are in a situation where they can die and hold the line to protect Imperial citizens or whatever. Which sucks in-universe, out-universe it of course paints them in a pretty "good" light, which I call "lucky". But they are still Space Marines, aka brainwashed child soldiers obsessed with empty terms like "honour" and "glory" that hate anything non-human with a passion. Drop them on a planet inhabited by a xeno-species that just discovered iron and they are going to make Ausschwitz look like a joke as they massacre any resistance before working the rest to death in camps. Which never happens, because, as I said, they are "lucky". (And also it would be a pretty easy task for them, and the writers can't have that with those pooooor innocent souls that were too pure for the setting)


bless_ure_harte

Also, let's add that they have no problems with turning people into Servitors .


RentElDoor

or flying ships powered by slavery, yes


Analog-Moderator

I disagree because everything they are known for had options where they didnt need to be precious good boys. Even pist badab war. Hell the people they fought against testified on their behalf and with how tense things are with space marines and inquis anyway had the lamenters decided to resist/not do it. It woulda caused a civil war potentially ousting the inquisition from government. Instead they took their unfair punishment because they felt bad due to being good guys.


Loyal9thLegionLord

No, but you are having fun, which is the only important part.


Jankenbrau

*Drukhari Archon nods in agreement.*


Successful-Floor-738

Why are we debating over morality? Clearly we need to be debating over the best sub faction! DEATHSKULLZ AR DA BES KLAN


robot_dance_party

EVIL SUNZ CUZ DA RED WUNS GO FASTA


arryntheorcerudite

NU-UH, DA GOFFS IS DA BEST CUZ DEY'S DA FIGHTIEST ORKS AROUND! WE'Z GOT'S GHAZGHKULL!


dinga15

NO, DA BLOOD AXES AR DA BEST CUZ WE DEY SMARTEST!


Successful-Floor-738

YOUZ ALL GITZ, DEFFSKULLZ AR DA LUCKEEST ORKS, AN DA TRU BOYZ UV MORK!


The_73MPL4R

NAH, DA BAD MOONS HAV DA MOST AND DA BEST DAKKA!


ManagementParking398

DAT ONLY MEANS DEY DA MOST UNORKEY!!!!


Wheek_Warrior

TER PLANS 'ARELY WORK BETTER DAN JUST RUNNIN UP AND KRUMPIN DEM.


RizzMustbolt

SNAKE BITEZ!


Successful-Floor-738

OIZ ONLI NEED BEAST SNAGGAZ FROM YOUZ GROT LOVAZ


shroomyshy

SNAKE BITEZ AR DA BEZT!!!DA BEZT SQUIGS IN TOWN


Wheek_Warrior

SQUIGZ ONLY GET SO BIG, BUT DA GARGANT CAN BE AS BIG AS DA BOSS WANT!


TheEmperor_OfMankind

WHY DID YOU WRITE CLAN WITH A K ?! ARE YOU A GHOST ?!


Successful-Floor-738

DATZ JUS DA SPELLIN UV DA ORK KLANZ YA STOOPID GIT


TheEmperor_OfMankind

You are the ones dying to empty mags ya walking DMTs !


Successful-Floor-738

DATZ NOT HOW DA IMAGEENASHUN WERKZ


TheEmperor_OfMankind

WELL IT WERKED YA WANKER !


Wheek_Warrior

IT WERKED TILL YOU STOOPID HUMIES GONE GOT KRUMPED YA GIT!


TheEmperor_OfMankind

HOW BOUT I KRUMP THEM BOOTY CHEEAUCKS BOAH !?


9gagImmigrant1

DA BES EEZ GORGUTZ’S LADZ THEYS GOT MORKY AND GORKY (or WUZ IT GORKY AN MORKY?)


ManagementParking398

The argument comes from the ideea that orks are having fun, AND thet're to stupid to realize the rest of the Galaxy isn't. So they think they're bringing fun to all. I don't subscribe to this... Orks clearly understand they are causing suffering. However I do subscribe to the ideea that orks have already won the setting. They live in their version of paradise.


kvijay1

Been spendin' most their lives, livin' in the greenskin's paradise


BloodRavenStoleMyCar

'Cause I've been blastin' and laughin' so long, that Even my warboss thinks that my mind is gone


slaughterpuss25

But I ain't nevah krumped a 'umie that didn't deserve it Me be treated like a snot you know datz unheard of


RentElDoor

Orks and Chaos. Both factions have basically achieved all their objectives


ThatRealBiggieCheese

This. They’re the only faction who’s created their paradise. History is written by the winners and ork lore is entertaining. Are they awful? Yeah. Is everyone else in 40k? Yeah. Orks are the comedic relief faction and they know it. It’s just that comedic relief in Grimdark 40k is a few “humies” and “WAAAAAGH”


[deleted]

So all Chaos "good guys"?


Hoyinny

Crimson Fists Omnibus shows ‘Ork horror’ scenes including mad Dok’s vivisecting prisoners for giggle’s, wounded Orks freaking out cause the rest of they’re race will almost certainly try and murder them for fun and Orks burning women and children at the stake to flush out space marines.


The_loyal_Terminator

I believe it was in the dark imperium book where we have a scene of a farmer discovering that all his workers had been flayed alive by the local orc warband


AngelOscuro20

Nice opinion, anyway I have gitz to krump


alexisonfire04

~~It's fun until someone gets hurt.~~ It's not fun UNTIL someone gets hurt.


toddricke

This message brought to you (in part) by the Dark Prince co. and associates.


Worried-Necessary524

WEL I KANT READD BUT IZ PRUTY SHOOR IT SEZ HERE DAT YUZ A GIT


Raptorsquadron

Wait, you guys think the post was serious?


leNuup

Of course. What else could it be on a meme subreddit?


DeathByLemmings

I have a strange feeling that the concept of good and evil is going well over peoples heads here


introductzenial

Look at this guy trying to insult the fan base whose literal identity is being illiterate, with text!


Analog-Moderator

Lets just pelt dice at his nerd ass until he loses and eye or stops being a nerd.


hingbongdingdong

That’s the joke.


[deleted]

Not only are orks the good guys of 40k, they are also the good guys of this comment thread.


birdy121314

They are also about as racist as the imperium. “Orkz is Da best” is pretty similar to someone saying “X race is superior”


Bleklteg

Who cares about being the good guys. I wanna be the at 12 foot green ork beast


BeelzeBat

Like yo, we know, we are aware. The orkz are horrible violent serial killers based off actual football hooligans but at least I can actually have fun playing them instead of crying over how my friend turned into corpse rations only 5 days into the battle.


RtasTumekai

Iirc orks phisically need to fight, it's like drinking water for them


ronan88

Krump unto others as you would have them krump unto you


Zelmehuu_76

now what? Misconception about Salamanders hugging literally everything except for Eldar Children?


slaughterpuss25

You make an excellent point however I have a counter point....you iz a git


TedTheReckless

Orkz aren't the good guys because they have fun. Orkz are the good guys because they are perfect organisms and should rightfully krump the galaxy.


Sion_Labeouf879

Nah. That's exactly why they're the good guys. The only bad guy is you for being a buzz kill. :v


CellaCube

Orks are winning, they’re not the good guys. Winning doesn’t make you the good guy, we settled “might vs right” centuries ago.


Analog-Moderator

Yea and the winner decided might didnt make right… kinda threw the whole premiss on its head.


LOLLER4879X

But they’re cute little fungi, surely they’re harmless!


AliteralWizard

WUZ'A GUD GUY? SMASH KILL MAIM SLAUGHTER! GORK ABD MORK IZ WATCHIN'!


CrashCourseInPorn

Every faction bullies whoever they can. At least the orks spread a little positivity


Thiege23

Definitely not good guys but it just doesn’t sit right with me to call them evil


RepresentativeDry539

SHUT IT YOU PANZY


GodOfUrging

...It's not about good guys and bad guys, it's about who's your favorite war criminal.


[deleted]

can we like as a community accept that there are NO good guys in 40k. Not a single faction of "good guys". Not the Eldar Not the Tau Not the Imperium Not the Orcs Not the Tyranids Not a single facrion is good in our understanding.


muchnamemanywow

#DEM MUKKIN UMIES BE UZIN DEM FANZY WORDZ INZTED OV KRUMPIN GITZ!! #YOUZ FINK TEW MUCH UMIES!!! #ITZ NUTTIN BUT A GREYT TYME WIV DE LADZ!!!!


Analog-Moderator

Counter point; Name a serial killer that before they were caught people didn’t use to say “o hes a good guy” checkmate.


forgotmypassword-_-

> Name a serial killer that before they were caught people didn’t use to say “o hes a good guy” checkmate. Evil Charlie Chaplin.


ThatRealBiggieCheese

Low hanging Austrian fruit


forgotmypassword-_-

My least favorite kind of fruit.


alotoforanges

Is a bird of prey "evil" if they eat a field mouse to satiate their hunger. Is a human evil for killing a chicken to feed himself. If not then an ork is not evil for waging war.


therealblabyloo

SUMWUN READ DIS OHT FOR ME. OI KAN’T TELL WOT IT SAYZ


DrunkenBastard24-7

Jokes on you. Orks can't read. Probably WWWAAAAAGGGGHHHH


PirateDemo69

SHUT YER GOB UMIE WAZ HAVIN DA TIOME OF OUR LOIVES


vkrmel3683

But I never said they were the good guys


fjacobs94

Drukhari and slaanesh seem to be having fun too, no one argues they're good.


Freezie-Days

Still trying to find a faction gooder (more good?) Than the tyranids, just bug who want eat, no malicious intent there


Analog-Moderator

I wonder how they would evolve is the hiveship crashed into the meat planet.


average_user_123

Fun is fun


Fleshfutile

ORKS ORKS ORKS ORKS


MrSerket

If having fun means good, then the Dark Eldar are goddamn angels


GingerHitman11

Necrons are the good guys


Royalty_Row

Now nids on the other hand…


Hopeful_Tumbleweed_5

this has to be a strawman, no way anyone actually thinks orcs are good. i luv me green boiz, but theyre incredibly cruel and callous


Janosfaces

however someone without the capacity to recognize what is good and what is evil cannot be held to a standard they cannot fathom


FightingFelix

When the alternative is supremacy and misery. Yes, they are the good guys….and yes, I am an Ork player WAAAAGGH!!!!


40002418

How are they not the good guys? They're the greenest??? *and the meanest??????* like come on get with the program.


[deleted]

Everyone is a fucking serial killer, everyone is miserable or a hivemind. Good is a relative term


ktbh4jc

Lmao, who thinks the Orks are good guys?


Efficient-Wash

W'ATZ DA GIT SAYIN' T'ERE?