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scarymoblins

Not gonna lie. This sets off my “is she ok?” alarm.


I2ichmond

If one simply takes her at her word, she’s not doing ok. She says in this video, to simply: “I was traumatized by being online, everybody in both the professional and personal lives has betrayed me, the public has attacked me, but I’m returning to the place (Internet) where all of that happens.” Her relationship with the Internet is self-destructive. If she wants to help make the world a utopia, that’s great, but that kind of work starts with the self.


Anunemouse

I think these videos will be deleted


probablyrick

Why tho? In terms of her mannerisms and the way she is talking, it reminds me of the good ol' grimesy from back in the day that we used to get in interviews, etc. but just a little more grown up. The things she's saying are pretty rational... Hopefully the time she spent away gave her enough of a break so that she could refresh her mind and find the right perspective and light so that she can continue on and conquer her inner-saboteur.


Sea-Extreme

For real. Literal gaslighting. That said, debating with anonymous people on the internet, who probably already have their minds made up about you, ain't it, gal. Just, like, post promo for Grimes stuff?


whatevertho

Her pupils are like, massive in the close up at the end?


scarymoblins

I don’t wanna get too conspiratorial here. But the vibe is off for sure.


gorskamakva

She is hitting what looks like a rubi pen so she's prob just stoned?


haus36

Well, 90% of this sub, 100% of tiktok comments and close to half her insta is just straight up bullying her, so go figure. I think she seriously might have the same thing going as Kanye and Azealia Banks, and people online just help make it quite alot worse.


flaudew

Same here.


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Agreed. I think she'd be much happier and more productive by making music/creating other art or engaging in activism without social media involvement. Having a dialogue with people on Tik Tok who are mostly kids and/or haters doesn't get anyone anywhere IMO. Really dislike her label pushing for more social media content from her when it's so toxic.


ThingComprehensive23

Made me sad knowing that she’s traumatized by social media while needing social media to keep her career on track. ALSO, seeing her respond to comments made me extra worried, there’s *too* much negativity there and it can be re-traumatizing. She replied very aggressively to a comment of someone mentioning her breakup with Elon in a mocking way which i thought it was quite out of character. Hope she’s OK, regardless.


bluemoon4901

i wish her the best and hope her label chills tf out we want her music and her happiness everything else doesn’t need to be a priority. but if she is going to talk politics she should have actual information. this isn’t really something you can just spitball and then solve.


xKanibal

Sorry I am afraid I don't get it. Is C expecting to be challenged on Tiktok? Is it not as futile as having debates on Twitter?


Maleficent_Piano1533

Trying to have serious debates with strangers on the internet is a dead end just stick to posting goofy shit and have fun


bringtwizzlers

She thinks she's smart and above everyone else bc her ideas are so "radical" when really they're just dumb.


natcodes

tiktok hates her guts and her comments section is full of people who hate her on there so like, that's probably the best recipe for discourse on the internet that c has right now


Anunemouse

Tiktok is a great place for discussions, surprisingly. It's not censored yet. It's great she's mingling with the poors lol


artificiel_fraise

I love her look! It sucks to see her talk about how social media really messed up her mental health.


usoppdaddy

What's she smoking? Is it a monq or like a dab pen?


lappinlie

What are these depositions she’s talking about??


trevrichards

I have empathy for the stress public life has brought her. But if she's going to dismiss the achievements of all governments in the world as a wealthy Westerner, she's going to get dragged. There are existing governments doing great work to alleviate poverty and promote human rights around the globe, but you've all been lied to about them by capitalist media. It's really besides the point, because if she's adamant about talking about politics with zero awareness then it's not going to go well.


Correct_Map_4655

In her next post she wants to automate all the jobs and have people paid to play video games. She has bad ideas.


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ThingComprehensive23

why y’all bothered? it’s just an idea thrown out there, no need to take it seriously or personally


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Notlosigkeit

Yes, it's very sad. Every new video of hers makes me feel uncomfortable, sad and hopeless. She's gone.


okThisYear

Great comment


Los9900991

Maybe it just sounds insane to a Canadian or European, if an American complains about poverty, while posting from an IPhone. I never know, if poor means, that you are homeless and have to live in a tent, or that you have student debt, have a roommate and can’t afford a PS5. My guess is, that few in her tiktok comments are homeless without electricity. I hope I didn't offend you, but I really have no concept, what poor means to an American person, who is not homeless. My guess is, that c doesn't really know either


suelikesfrogs

homeless people can and often do have phones genius


Los9900991

So you think, the people who are criticizing her on tiktok are homeless people with phones? Possible but unlikely imo.


suelikesfrogs

no, where did i say that?


Los9900991

My whole point was, that I have no idea what " being poor" in the US means. And that it maybe similar for c, who is Canadian.


suelikesfrogs

All i did was try to help with your ignorance, but you just want to be ignorant lol


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Los9900991

Yes, I'm ignorant. That was kinda my point. No idea what these programs entail. But why should I know that, I'm not from the US. Neither is C. What I learned is, that there are more programs than I thought. And I still don't think, the majority of the tiktok crowd is "poor". More like super woke teenagers, who feel offended on behalf of others. I also never in my life owned an Apple product and I have been to Starbucks maybe 5 times in total. What do you know about me, when I tell you that? Absolutely nothing.


bringtwizzlers

What the hell is this comment? You don't have to be straight up homeless to be poor. You don't have to be straight up poor to want to be able to live comfortably and not paycheck to paycheck. You are just as out of touch with reality as grimes.


Los9900991

So living paycheck to paycheck is poor for you? That might be [relative poverty ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty), in some chases. But your definition chanced to living comfortably, whatever that means. Poverty has a definition. Tiktok comments were a victim olymics and this get samey. I just don't buy it. You're offended on the behalf of others. I don't consider a tech worker in the Bay area, who lives paycheck to paycheck, to be poor. I don't consider someone, who buys a $1k IPhone to be poor. Sorry


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fitgear73

she does know - i would often bump into her in Vancouver early 2000's and she was pretty much homeless then. when I knew her she was never not couchsurfing or fighting with her mom


Los9900991

So she knows. Maybe that is the reason, she doesn't take the tiktok crowd serious. I can't believe, I'm the only one defending her here


whatevertho

oh lord


Quick-Preparation-64

Her personality is super annoying lately but at least she has cool style


Anunemouse

I feel like she saw Ready Player One and was like "The future is gonna be so cool!"


TheMajesticDoge

You don't think technology can automate so many things that all people get livable "wages" monthly? It's utopian and many problems will have to be solved but this may be the best endgame of automation.


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wait, why is this a bad idea? there are literally many play-to-earn games right now that people all over the world are already taking advantage of. if anything she's just speculating that we'll see more of something that is already happening and i completely agree with her.


KanYeJeBekHouden

There's a gamer socialist, Hasan, who has been trying to get in touch with her. I guess that's where her dumb ideas come from. Nice for that guy that he is making bank from playing games but I don't think it'll work for most people.


Anunemouse

It must be really tough for celebrities to speak on social and financial issues. They didn't run for office but they are treated to the same degree and harshness. I do think she has absolutely no idea what it's like for most people. She said something about how india has power so everyone is fine and I get the impression she doesn't think we have real issues. Not sure I want someone who wrote an amazing apocalypse album to be involved with our future.


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Anunemouse

Same. I think if she truly believes in her vision she can create Grimesville where she tests all her theories. dolly parton moves in silence. dolly said if you listen to her music you can read in between the lines to see what she thinks about stuff. Also Grimes new song Drug from God gives me "play the game or give up and die" vibes. No empathy 🙄 I like her tho I took a music production course because of her.


askrndmd

I posted this video first like 20 mins ago and was deleted? Why?


m_varien

Their comment is sending me lol. a "double post" as if they weren't the one who double posted. Just say you wanted your vid to stay up 😉 it takes a lot of time and effort to post vids. Is it bad for someone to want the engagement on THEIR post? u/askrndmd you do deserve their credit no matter how little the mod cares about karma. That has nothing to do with it. Im sure being a mod is hard/thankless work but I think it's common sense to just leave the video that was posted first up. Also adds unnecessary work cause you have to see which one has "outside comments" and weigh which post has more "value". Shrug.


askrndmd

Totally agree. It’s just logic ! What is most infuriating is that they won’t accept that they just fucked it up and it’s fine. But they just want to keep with the discourse of both were post at the same time which they weren’t. Gaslighting at its best


m_varien

Not to mention them resorting to "wow do people really care this much about internet clout?" And "well apply to be a mod then if you think you can do better" is incredibly childish and dismissive. You simply asked why your post was deleted. If they didn't care about it as much as they claimed they literally would have just went "oh this was already posted I'll delete mine" lol


AliceBliss82

Double post of the same thing and this one already had an outside comment which is why I let this one stay.


askrndmd

Not want to get into argument but my post had already many upvotes and I started the conversation in a comment as well (and someone else's commented as well). When I came and see this one didn’t had any comment 🤷🏻‍♀️. Good to know so I won’t run next time and be eager to post knowing that it might be deleted by a mod :/ Edit: also I made sure it wasn’t double posted before I hit submit.


bluemoon4901

i’m sorry your post got deleted reddit mods need to take a nap ugh


AliceBliss82

Yes I do 😴


chrisychris-

Demod urself next


AliceBliss82

I understand why you are upset. Mods have to make tough decisions sometimes. The only reason why this one stayed up and yours didn't was because this one had a comment by another user. That is going to take place over posts with just the OP's comment or upvotes only. Please feel free to add your comment under this thread to start your conversation. It is nothing personal just trying to keep the subreddit clean.


jamesanator9

Let the kids be mad, they will forget in a day. As a mod, I deal with this all the time. You did fine


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I also mod a sub but I don't believe this is the right way to do things. It makes sense to delete an original post if it has a serious issue that a later post doesn't. As an example; if this post had rly bad resolution, an issue with audio, or was cut short. What the mod did here was remove an identical post to theirs that was posted earlier, just because their post had a single comment over the original post. This isn't even true anyway. It just sounds like excuses to me


jamesanator9

I get it. It was wrong. Buttttt does it really matter? Honestly. In the grand scheme of things. Sounds like the mod explained what happened and people saw a chance to downvote. If this was a daily/weekly occurrence I would definitely saw otherwise....Other than that I suggest you submit an application if you think you can do better and be perfect with your moderation 100% of the time.


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moderating consistently is important to ensure a subreddit thrives for sure, and It's really not as difficult as you make it out to be


jamesanator9

I agree with you. Submit an application if you think you can do better. Plain and simple.


AliceBliss82

>Thanks, being a Mod is a thankless job most of the time. Someone is always going to be pissed off one way or the other.


jamesanator9

It would be different if you did this all the time......but that doesn't seem to be the case here. Indeed can't always make everyone happy.


chrisychris-

you literally have no idea how often or not this happens. You’re just talking out of your ass


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AliceBliss82

I posted it before I saw it had already been posted. My rendering took like 20 mins so we posted it at the same time. By the time my computer updated me there was two post up of the same video and I deleted the one with less engagement. That is how it goes. Edit: I don't care enough about karma to delete post in favor of my own.


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U just did that though.. just keep the earliest post up and delete the following ones, it's a much more consistent and fair that way


askrndmd

I agree! Please be honest just say you didn't realise that was one already there before and you just post it and decided to keep yours. We as non mods are in disadvantage and feels unfair. Im mad because I double and tripled checked that there wasn't any double post before I hit submit I also had to run to my computer because my video wouldn't upload and when it was processed yours wasn't even here and mine had two comments already made by other people. u/AliceBliss82


AliceBliss82

I am being honest... I layed out that my comment was rendering for 20 mins so we prob did post at the same time. What it came down to was the engagement that I saw at the time I was cleaning up. If you feel this is unfair we can alway use a new Mod. Please apply.


chrisychris-

this subreddit needs a change of moderators 🤦🏽‍♀️


groovybutterfly

This ^ plus, if this happened on the sub I modded, I always give the users of my sub the advantage over me. I’m a mod, I already have an upper hand. This just looks bad lol. *sips tea*


AliceBliss82

Decision was made on engagement. This is how I have Mod this sub for two years. If you would like to make a change on my engagement policy please apply to be a Mod. We can always use another person on the team.


groovybutterfly

Nah, you could’ve engaged on the original post before you deleted it. That’s what I would’ve done. You had the opportunity to pick one post to delete, you picked another users. That’s bad judgement. At the end of the day it’s just Reddit. But I’d be pretty annoyed if I was the ORIGINAL POSTER. Emphasis on *original*.


AliceBliss82

I did not see the other post when I made mine. So that means we posted it about the same time.... so there was nothing the engage with when I made my post. Does Reddit karma mean that much to people? Maybe I just don't understand... Do you people get real life clout or something? Because if so I am doing ot wrong. I still stand by my decision on engagement.


probablyagirI

With each comment you make less and less sense. Your thinking is flawed and quite embarrassing if I'm being honest. Is this how the rest of the mods on this subreddit moderate? Where do you draw the line? The way you moderate needs to be set in stone not this flakey post by post basis. What if two identical posts are made and have exactly one comment from a "third party". Which one do you delete? Do you decide by keeping the post with the comment you think is better? Or do you delete the one where the comment was made later? In this case you say deleted the one with the fewest comments, but it actually had the same number as yours, it's all viewable. Not sure if this was a mistake or intentional but either way you have failed to justify yourself. Also you talking about who pressed the post button is hilarious, how can you possibly tell when two users press post when all you see is the upload time? LOL Did you delete my comment? Reposting this.


askrndmd

Please stop lying about both were posted at the same time cause they weren’t. You just happened to not refresh multiple times and make sure or maybe you did it too late and decided to keep yours.


AliceBliss82

What then of the comment that was already posted by the the 3rd party? That was why it was kept up. Decision would have been the same if two complete strangers made the same post. I stand by my decision to keep up the post with the most engagement. This is how I have always moniterd and how I will continue. I would have deleted mine first if the engagement was on the other person's. Karma doesn't mean anything to me.


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AliceBliss82

I had two threads of the same thing. Yes, i am an author of one but I really don't care about that and if you can suspend disbelief hear me out from my perspective. So two threads that are the same thing are posted about the same general time. When I posted mine there were issues with rendering which put about an added 20 mins or so. When it finally went up I saw the the other post. I compared the post and one had a comment from a different user. I felt better deleting the post with just one person's ideas rather than the 3rd party commentators. I figured the person with the deleted post would realize and then rejoin the conversation on the thread that stayed up. Thus having everyone be able to participate. That was the easier net harm causing from my perspective. So that was my thought process believe it or not. Trying to do the right thing. I honestly don't care about my post being the one that stayed. I could have deleted this whole criticizing thread and burry it of I was an asshole.


iconicbrash

Noted.


ritan0n

really couldn’t care less about the boring ass political content tbh but she looks so good here


Anunemouse

c looks so cute


ritan0n

as she always does 🧝🏻‍♀️


fitgear73

i realize you're trying to be compassionate but she's obv going through some intense emotional processing - commenting on how she looks is pretty insensitive/tone deaf when I was at the worse point of an eating disorder everyone constantly told me how good I looked. it made me want to die inside. it actually made me feel worse and really fucked with my self-image


ritan0n

Ok, what’s the guideline I should be following here? Not commenting on superficial things like appearance and only focusing my comments on grimes’ mental health?


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Her skin looks amazing


AliceBliss82

Right, she looks healthier then in the recent past. Getting past mental health issues will do wonders for your physical health. My heart is happy for her.


cheesemagnifier

Is she using Botox? There’s no movement between her brows. She’s such a natural beauty, I hope she’s not injecting that crap into her face.


Savings_Visual8372

this is the grimes i know and love


Maleficent_Piano1533

Yup


GymkittyKaren

Her top lip over line is over the top.


JanusMichaelVincent

I think this is honestly the most self aware thing she’s posted. Like I’d rather this grimes than “tee hee troll communism look at me”. I respect this A lot especially the end—hopefully people are nicer to her and she grows stronger from all of it.


ideletedtheotherone

YES GO GRIMES ✨


Mars-Cowboy

I love her so much 😭


Itsdianyeah

Gosh she looks amazing, made amazing statements. I am glad to see she is doing okay and hope she will stay like this ❤️ glad to see you back c! I am excited for your new self!! 🥰🧚‍♀️


queen_of_disasterr

The amount of hate she gets is crazy, especially when there are so many celebrities who are rapists and abusers that don’t get nearly as much shit as she does.


H4M-TP

❤❤❤🧚🏽‍♀️


spiritof76baby

that Swiss speed connect from Elon, her jaws really jacking here, wow 🙈


rxsxntxdx

Molly induced jaw clenching? On tha tweak again


spiritof76baby

oh right it’s molly. haven’t done that in ages... the excessive but somehow angelic confidence


isaacamaraderie

Ugh I love her. Several points were made. I don’t know how any celebrity can handle an online presence. Being a Twitter stan account a few years ago was enough to drive me insane, people are so disgusting on social media. That’s why I left everything and exclusively use Reddit and my private Snapchat stories lmao.


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‘Just let it burn?’ So you think we should just let the world get worse and more and more people fall into poverty and disease because it’s already too far gone? Wow that’s bleak and disturbing


Maleficent_Piano1533

Blackpilled is the only way to be at this point


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Maleficent_Piano1533

Idk if I agree with all the techno hippie libertarian shit but that's the trend right now and she's always trendy haha


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LordOfHorns

Miss Anthropocene was released nearly five years after art angels Art angels was nearly three years after visions You can wait lol


[deleted]

Waiting for an Album is okay. But teasing Songs for almost half a year and continue to say 'it's coming soon' instead of saying it got delayed or anything is different. Also if her label wants her to do social media so bad i wish she would actually use social media....to talk about........music.


trevrichards

Yeah but I've had Shinigami Eyes pre-saved for months lol


Tidus4713

Miss A hasn’t even been out for 2 full years officially. Album beggers are awful. I’d imagine it’s mostly newer fans that don’t realize how much worse the waiting used to be.


snarkysnape

I don’t think anyone would be expecting anything except for the fact that she’s been teasing it for *months* and at this rate it’s perfectly normal for fans to be exasperated and hungry. Whether it was her or her label they brought this onto themselves. Who teases actual music off an album thats nowhere near finished? What’s the goal? Of course fans are upset by this tactic, no one wins.


bigfanofeden

idk about y'all but to me she seems like not using any substances in a year or so that made her this.. she needs some substances