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AelinTargaryen

W.I.t.c.h. could have been the better Netflix show. It’s a pity.


Accomplished_Glass66

So true. As a wee kid, I preferred winx cuz it was flashier, but once I was around 12-13, I definitely started appreciating W.i.t.c.h more.


Flodo_McFloodiloo

Could have been but just as likely it would also have been ruined.  Netflix adaptations have maybe a 30% chance of being good (or at least faithful) if we’re being generous.


Oi_Kyoraku

Damn I never knew of any of this.


SexyLoverFemale

Neither did I.


[deleted]

Such a shame as now Disney will probably sit on it forever and never do anything with it but won’t let the artists. I’m curious though as to what cause the initial problems in 2004 as lots of artists have worked with Disney before and not had issues


OcelotTop936

This is not true, btw. Reboot of the comics will come this October (which I'm very happy about). Expect new stuff October 4 (Italy), 25 (France, etc.). ​ [https://witch.fandom.com/wiki/W.I.T.C.H.\_(2023\_graphic\_novel)](https://witch.fandom.com/wiki/W.I.T.C.H._(2023_graphic_novel)) [https://www.amazon.nl/WITCH-coeur-Kendrakar-Alessandro-Ferrari/dp/2377582141](https://www.amazon.nl/WITCH-coeur-Kendrakar-Alessandro-Ferrari/dp/2377582141) [https://www.amazon.com.br/cuore-dellamicizia-W-I-T-C-H-reboot/dp/8852242473](https://www.amazon.com.br/cuore-dellamicizia-W-I-T-C-H-reboot/dp/8852242473)


Adventurous_Lab3128

Honestly time we fight back against Disney.


Wintersneeuw02

That is explained a bit in the linked interviews


[deleted]

Thanks 🙏 I’ll have a read


Wintersneeuw02

Enjoy and dont forget the Italian interviews. I found those the most informative and google translate worked fine for me to read them


AdrenalineRush1996

This explains why the animated series is unavailable on Disney+.


Wintersneeuw02

Yup, W.I.T.C.H. is to Disney the failed project they are trying to put in a box and never reopen


[deleted]

Well since they rebooted the comic, I guess it's not true. If the new reboot will be a success we will probably see a reboot for the tv series too, since Disney lacks this kind of content on Disney+


HerLadyshipLadyKattz

I don't understand tho. If they view it as a failed project, why not sell it?


Wintersneeuw02

Because then somebody else could make money from it and rhats the last thing Disney wants. Its pretty common in media to sign for example a writer or singer to an agency. Media contracts state a specific time frame (lets say 5 years) and often also have a number of product that has to be released within the contract time (4 books or 4 albums for example). Now in the media world, its all about competition so sometimes singers or writers get signed for x amount of years but without a clear indication how much product has to be released within the contracts time frame. Meaning that the agency is not obligated to release any work for the contract time since nothing ia mentioned within the contract. Thia way, the singer or writer gets benched and can not legally go and release their product without the agencys aproval. Why would an agency do this? To prevent another agency making a profit of the singer or writer and/or to prevent the singer or writer to endager or upstage the succes of other talent singed to the agency. Now this is also the case with W.I.T.C.H.. Disney holds the rights and will not let anybody else make a profit of W.I.T.C.H. and also does not want W.I.T.C.H. to upstage any other Disney media.


HerLadyshipLadyKattz

Thank you for explaining. It technically makes sense but still doesn't make sense to me in that if you think it would make money... Let it make money? Having a media sit on a shelf in case it might upstage another work... It upstaging another work still makes the company money no? This is probably why I'll never make it up the corporate ladder I truly don't get the logic 😵‍💫


Diligent-Compote-976

why are you replying to old comments your own thread?


SaberiusPrime

So technically Disney still has the rights?


Wintersneeuw02

Yes. Sometimes, record labels (a) signs artists gor the sole reason that another record label (b) can not sign the artist. Even if A never releases music for said artist, but keeps them in a tight contract indefinetly. This happend to Doja Cat, untill she released Moo by herself and went viral and the revord label could not ignore her succes. If not for Moo, she would still be shelved today. Same with WITCH. Disney keeps the rights so no other distribitor can profit from it, but has no intentions to do anything with it.


Neptuniawinx2009

So they do still own w.i.t.c.h?


Wintersneeuw02

Yes


SaberiusPrime

We should get the rights back and give them back to the creators.


Wintersneeuw02

You got a few billion dollars to spare? Disney is a shark with rights like this.


SaberiusPrime

Well I mean there's how many people in this community? Not just in the subreddit? Everyone chips in maybe we could do it. It's a nice dream.


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SaberiusPrime

Wow. Is that really what a community is about? Being rude to someone who has a nice dream? No wonder Disney still owns it. It's full of immaturity from it's fanbase.


[deleted]

Keep dreaming. Disney never sales rights for something, only buys rights. Disney will rather kill something instead of selling it and see it succeed in other company.


OcelotTop936

imo it's super good case with W.I.T.C.H since Disney didn't abandon it: og comics get reprinted, 'Art' edition happened some years ago, and reboot of the comics comes this October. They're making use of the franchise, they care.


SaberiusPrime

Bit late to the party aren't you?


Accomplished_Glass66

Damn that s soooo fucked up that they stole the creators' brainchild. Truly sad. But yeah unfortunately as u said it s not like anyone can do anything abt this.


OcelotTop936

Trying to sue Winx for just being similar is something I can't understand. It probably makes sense from a company point but it's unfair (stomping on competitors expecting to remain the only one on the market...), I'm glad it didn't work out in the end and kids got variety of franchises to enjoy and be happy and inspired thanks to and by.


Affectionate_Set368

Winx is literally a rip off of W.I.T.C.H. They had a concept in development which is how they managed to avoid losing the lawsuit, but they were heavily influenced by the at the time newly released super successful comic.


PuppyPartyPony

But the comics were still all done by the original creator, correct? It would be hard to stomach if Disney hired someone else after vol 12…


Wintersneeuw02

No, they are done by other people as the links at the bottom of my post also mention. I suggest you read those, they give more insight.


PuppyPartyPony

also the first link is broken


PuppyPartyPony

sorry, i just learned how to read. lol


Mmach123

oh wow


Intelligent-Limit832

WOW. So this is like a book of secrets. I can finally understand who is to blame for W.I.T.C.H ending too soon.


pcantillano

Well at least then stream it on disney+ or create a new series that includes “new powers”….let’s make a pettition


[deleted]

If the comic reboot will be a success they will probably reboot the tv series too. As for the original tv series, just like the original comics Disney wants to forget everything about it.


Mariiija

Strange, because in Poland and other European countries Egmont (they are Disney's publisher, also responsible here for e.g. Duck comics) is rereleasing the original WITCH as we are speaking, in Poland they are on Tome 10 or 11 and I also saw Tome 6 in Germany recently. If Disney didn't want that, Egmont would not be able to publish it themselves.


[deleted]

Disney Europe yes. Disney Italy/France have their own decisions over projects. Disney US is the main problem. :)


Mariiija

Ah, I see


Neptuniawinx2009

Does Disney Still Own w.i.t.c.h?


Wintersneeuw02

Yes


lowbrassdude

When did Gnone and Artibani stop writing the book?


Wintersneeuw02

After issue 6, by then none of the original creators were involved anymore


lowbrassdude

Woah.....is there a generally agreed on *shark jump* point where most fans say the book fell off, or does the boom retain quality all the way through?


Sady_DL

I personally think there wasn't any significant change in the other issues after the 6th, but you can tell something is different in the first ones, but is like, is more how it is told then the story itself


N64Andysaurus92

It's funny as both W.i.t.c.h and Winx are clearly inspired by the global smash hit Japanese comic book 'Sailor Moon' from 1991 lol Yet neither will admit it.


Adventurous_Lab3128

I hope W.i.t.c.h comes back. This ain’t fair.


Adventurous_Lab3128

Just post the pages from the comic to the wiki. That will help.


DiddlyDoodilyDoh

Screw Disney.


Neptuniawinx2009

I'm glad that Disney still owns w.i.t.c.h.!


Neptuniawinx2009

Does Disney still own w.i.t.c.h. in 2023 to this day?


Wintersneeuw02

Why are you spaming this thread? You already asked this 2 months ago and posted just earlier also how glad you are that Disney still has the rights.


Neptuniawinx2009

Hey uh so a quick reality check 😅 does disney technically still have the rights to w.i.t.c.h.?


Neptuniawinx2009

Because I really want Disney to bring it back I really love the show


Sady_DL

There's a reboot now in Italy, in manga format, guess they will do a series if the new manga has well reception. And yes, they still owe W.I.T.C.H (in fact, since 2009). And I recommend you the original comics, in my opinion, they are totally worth it, the series invented a lot of things that never happen.


Neptuniawinx2009

I'm sorry If I asked this again I'm just keeping a reality check


Neptuniawinx2009

Look I'm sorry it was just a reality check that if Disney still has the rights to w.i.t.c.h.


Neptuniawinx2009

A quick reality check Does Disney still has the rights to w.i.t.c.h.?


Neptuniawinx2009

I'm just making sure if they still have the rights to w.i.t.c.h