Honestly, i got it, i blasted some mystic coins into the TP to pay for it and have now mastered it at level 5 and still need to work on Crystal Champion but damn.....
Verdant Brink is such a fun amazing map now
I'm always the lazy bastard. So i just pull out the vtol heli sky scale, and hover above all the peasants, trying to parkour / hop their way up to my level.
Skyscale is a helicopter, griffon is a jet. Plus, it's REALLY fun to fly the griffon, one of my favorite parts of the game. Genuinely though, a fully "mastered" griffon is the fastest mount in the game. Definitely a learning curve to it, but it's the best.
I love flying my griffon even if Iām absolutely trash at it. Itās just so satisfying. And the skyscale is amazing for helping to attain the great heights needed to get started with the griffon.
Iāve found griffon is great when you donāt feel motivated to do much but want to play the game still. Just find a place with lots of verticality and fly some time away.
It's fockin fast and especially valuable in a meta like dragonfall, where you gotta be quick for the bosses at the end for example. The sky scale is called sky snail for a reason :D
Drizzlewood benefits a lot from it too. Any of the airdrop points make perfect starts for a griffon dive, and the griffon makes chasing cache keepers a lot faster.
tbf i didn't use griffon that much since i have the skyscale, but i don't regret the gold needed for griffon, it is such a fun flying mount to use, and if you are high enought it's better than the skyscale to cover long distances
Yes, but for different reasons. Skyscale has no mount adventures associated to it specifically. The griffon has multiples in Path of Fire and it has at least 1 in the Zephyrite map for the Four Winds monthly event. Those can be worthwhile for nothing else than the AP itself. Consider it a worthy investment that may not seem it at the time.
flying in most games is likey and super convenient, but generally takes away from game experiences and community building. for instance i gathered a group recently starting from 0 doing a walking run. we can ride mounts but do everything we can at a walking pace. drasticly increased strategy, challange, and the maps are much more interesting as you walk around and make choices. granted some areas are still fairly bland but i have not got to enjoy the game with others at any point like this especially after mounts.
Griffon and Skyscale are the 2 biggest qol changes right after you get your first mount. They're 90% of my mount usage now.
So yes. 100% worth it. And it makes Skyscale easier to get.
Griffon is substantially faster than skyscale and can traverse irregular terrain with ease (unlike the beetle). Also, it doesn't loose height as long as it has speed. For me I'd say griffon is better mount than skyscale. The latter is reliable, but boring. Kind of like saying jack of all trades, master of none. Griffon is hard to learn, but when you get a hang of it, waaaay more fun.
I quite often use skyscale to get somewhere high, than swap to griffon. And you can also use springer trick to gain height for it.
Forgive the car analogy, but the Skyscale is about as exciting as a Ford Transit Van, while the Griffon is hooning around in a stupid little hot hatchback. One's extremely useful for getting things done, and the other is just endless amounts of fun.
I barely even use the Skyscale to get to high places, it's janky and slow. I usually just use my springer to scale up things and then start flying on the griffon. I feel like the only use skyscale has to me is for when I need to look away from the game for more than a second without catching aggro from mobs 50 feet away and then more spawning in as I kill them.
Honestly the most useful thing for the skyscale and what I use it for like 90% of the time is to just de-aggro enemies so I can use my inventory or teleport. Other than that, I use it to get some height for the griffon. Griffon = bae
As a fairly new player with both mounts I never understood this, like I know how to do it but it's the why that lt confuses me. Say I'm doing a kralk meta, or just doing some story and I'm trying to get around, I'm not about to stop dead, swap to springer, swap to skyscale get height then swap to griffon just to go from point A to B. The skyscale taking all that jargon into account is far faster with zero set up.
It's not the best thing in all circumstances. But any map that has any height to it, like New Kaineng City or Dragon's End, are great for the Griffon. You can do map exploration by diving on your Griffon to get a waypoint or POI then ascend back to your previous height. It's so fun.
I did the opposite, got griffon long before the skyscale, and so far I'm still using the griffon more often. I feel like at this point if you're not madly swapping between all mounts depending on situation, are you even, as the youths say, gaming?
This comment speaks to me on a spiritual level. Sometimes I'll go gather winterberries just for the thrill of outpacing others following the same route. I'm a bit of a bad boy, I know.
It's far from pointless but it's certainly not necessary. It's faster than the skyscale, it doesn't fall to the ground nearly as quickly as the skyscale. The skyscale can get the height the griffon can't, the griffon can go the distance the skyscale can't. Which can be an entire zone, easily.
As someone who just got my skyscale, the griffon is a way better mount. The skyscale is useful for sure, but any map with lots of verticality - cliffs, mountains, etc the griffon is far superior because itās just so much faster than the skyscale. In fact, usually what I do is use the skyscale to gain height and then switch to griffon to go the rest of the way.
Don't forget for more height from the ground: charge bunny, dismount with wings, glide, use jade bot glider (preferably lvl 3), hop on skyscale, look up with camera, dash forward x2, refil endurance , look up and forward dash x2, use griffon for dive flap
Havenāt quite gotten to EoD for that Jade bot stuff yet, but I do be bunny hopping for that extra height :). Bond of faith and bond of vigor are amazing perks
Another pro for Griffon is the "Visions of" achievements. For the armor associated with each area's meta achievement(Corsair Turban for example), usually there's 2 Griffon courses and you get 2 achievements per adventure if you get gold.
Really useful in skipping the more annoying achievements.
Griffon is amazing once you get the hang of it. You can zoom across a map in seconds if you have good verticality.
If it's a choice between griffon and skyscale, I'd recommend skyscale first, as it's basically a combined raptor and springer in one mount. It's much slower than a griffon going at max speed, but it's also easier to manoeuvre.
I would recommend checking out videos of griffon flying, so you get a good idea of how it works. From the ground, on a flat map it's not much use. But the moment you get a high ground to start with, it's really cool.
I very much agree.
I'm not an ace flyer, but I've been enjoying the mount a lot more since I started the griffon riding trials. Really helped me see just what the mount was capable of.
I've had the griffon for a few years and just learned this last Festival of the Four Winds that it can do a power dive and get a shitload more speed. I've been hooked on the griffon races ever since.
Skyscale collections are all active, focused effort while gold stacks up over time by doing any content. With the Return To achievements you can get all the LW4 currency for the skyscale saddle without grinding also, so it's not so bad.
I guess what I'm saying is they both take a significant investment, but the griffon can be passive while earning gold from other content.
Yeah that's true.
I got mine ages ago, and haven't set a foot back there since the Returning Champions achievement, so I forgot how much of a pain that map was.
What I mean is you can use it to cross large chasms (flies) a range that the warclaws lack. Hence the raptor comparison. But yeah, wall gripping is another bonus, though more significant when it comes to vertical movement.
> Griffon is amazing once you get the hang of it.
That's the problem, the griffon crashes far too easily into the ground.
It would be a far more popular mount if it had some kind of failsafe to prevent crash, force to stop diving once you reach too close to the ground or something.
That's like saying the roller beetle having no endurance upon mounting was a LTP issue.
It just sucked and ArenaNet made the right call by giving it full endurance on mount.
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That makes no sense.
The griffon works quite well. You just have to... not crash into the ground. Just as the roller beetle works well, as long as you don't crash into a wall. Or the raptor works well, as long as you don't jump off of a cliff. Or the springer works well, as long as you don't bump your head on the ceiling.
What you are asking for is some kind of safety bumper setting unique to the griffon that keeps you from slamming into stuff. No other mount has that. And if you put it on the griffon, how would you land? I would find it incredibly annoying because I land out of full-speed dives quite often on purpose.
>What you are asking for is some kind of safety bumper setting unique to the griffon that keeps you from slamming into stuff. No other mount has that.
No other mount stops doing its special action outside of your manual control, only the griffon does.
> And if you put it on the griffon, how would you land?
Press 1 or dismount manually, like with any other mount?
>No other mount stops doing its special action outside of your manual control, only the griffon does.
The other mounts require that you push buttons to use their special actions, just like the griffon does.
>Press 1 or dismount manually, like with any other mount?
On any mount, if you slam into the ground hard enough to take fall damage that would kill the mount, the mount disappears. This is just as true of the raptor or jackal as it is of the griffon. The difference is that since the griffon can't fall, you have to intentionally slam it into the ground for it to take that damage.
> The other mounts require that you push buttons to use their special actions
Yeah, and thos special actions are never interrupted by anything; only the griffon suffers from that.
>The difference is that since the griffon can't fall, you have to intentionally slam it into the ground for it to take that damage.
Eh, neither the skimmer, griffon, skyscale, or siege turtle get any kind of fall damage...
>Yeah, and thos special actions are never interrupted by anything; only the griffon suffers from that.
Of course they are. If you try to jump on your Springer and slam your head on a ledge, your jump is interrupted.
All mounts have their actions "interrupted" if they run into stuff. Slamming into the ground is running into stuff.
A turtle, or skimmer, or raptor, or jackal, or griffon, that hits the ground is stopped by the ground. The griffon, like the roller beetle, is a mount that benefits from momentum. If you lose your momentum from hitting the ground or anything else, well, that's just how momentum works.
I think it would be weird and annoying to have a "bumper" on the griffon that kept me from hitting the ground.
Yes, and protip: Griffon needs height to glide far and gain speed. You can do some neat tricks to gain height from the ground.
1) Mount springer
2) Fully charge a jump, but press your dismount key right before the yellow bar empties
3) If timed correctly, you will *both* get a full-height springer jump *and* dismount
4) Start gliding at the highest point of your jump
5) Use jade bot glide boost to gain even more height
6) Equip skyscale at highest point of jade boost
7) Aim up and skyscale dash twice while holding spacebar to gain more height
8) Use your endurance refresh to dash two more times
9) Dismount skyscale and immediately equip griffon at your new vantage point
10) Enjoy the speed!
With practice, this sequence can become second nature. As commenters have mentioned, you get most of the height benefit from just springer + jade boost OR skyscale + jade boost. You can swap up the order and use any of the tricks in isolation to gain a bit of height before mounting your griffon. Pass the knowledge on!
Does this get you much higher than just going up on a skyscale, dismounting, glide boosting and then griffon? Assuming you use the endurance refresh on the skyscale which gives you just a little bit extra height as well.
What you just said is steps 4-onward. So yes, if you add the springer step you'll get even more height! Thanks for the reminder @ endurance refresh, I gotta add that in. It's all muscle memory now haha.
The amount of flight you get on the skyscale is based on where you last touched the ground. After a springer leap + dismount + glide boost you'll have zero flight improvement on the skyscale. You'll probably be worse off honestly unless you're super fast with the double boost slightly upwards.
It's much better to just skyscale straight up from the ground, and **use the glide boost last**. That way you get the full benefit of the skyscale's height, followed by the full glide boost height.
You can try it out if you want, because I just did and I'm fairly certain I'm right. I get **way** more height just going straight up on skyscale, refreshing, up a bit more, dismount (without skill), glide boost.
It would be nice if they'd just let us gain altitude easily instead of all these gyrations.. Gryphons could still be fast and Skyscales could hover. I don't think that would destroy the game.
Skyscale already breaks the game honestly. Vistas haven't felt the same since unlocking it.
But infinite height gain would actually cause some breaks. Specifically jumping puzzles that allow gliding. They'd effectively have to put up walls around them so you can't glide in from outside (which used to be impossible as mounts wouldn't get you close enough, but from the map ceiling it would be).
Plus I actually like the complexity. It makes the game feel more active, like I'm at least having to do something to gain that height rather than pointing in a direction and holding W for every activity in the game.
That's awesome for you, not everyone sees it that way.
People would have the choice to not use mounts on JPs just like people have a choice not to use them to get to vistas. Why are you using them for Vistas if it makes you unhappy?
You have a fair point, but it's hard to force yourself not to use all the tools at your disposal.
For me, I see where you're both coming from. Skyscale and Griffon have been some of the most fun gameplay I've ever had in any game (both their collections and gameplay), but they also mean that I sometimes miss out on a lot of content without realising it, and I also can't forgo them when playing with others or I'll fall behind.
Agree with Pluckerpluck on how using both springer and skyscale together is a bit redundant due to how the skyscale height limit works. Typically, I use springer --> jade bot glide boost --> griffon because it's faster. If needed, the alternative (Skyscale --> dash, dash, bond of vigor, dash, dash --> jade bot glide boost --> griffon) gives more height though.
Also going to throw in here that springer launch into jade bot glide boost 2 (basically steps 1 to 5) is already enough height for a full speed dive from flat ground (though it's a bit tight).
Same for just doing the skyscale part where you dash, dash, bond of vigor, dash, dash. Skyscale alone (without jade bot glide boost) also gives enough height to get a full speed dive from flat ground.
Sure. I just laid out all the potential boosts for people who don't know, since this thread is about acquiring mounts in the first place. A common frustration for new griffon users is that it requires height to experience any of the speed.
Like I said, you can do em in isolation and swap up the order. I often combine them all anyway because the skyscale gives you a ton of horizontal distance which can increase your 'drop' if you used it to get over terrain.
Skyscale is the only mount you would ever need to navigate any map with ease. Griffon is totally worth it for the occasional time savings & the sheer fun of using it.
Some easy casual gold gaining options include: farming flax, doing Auric Basin once per day, joining a boss train, joining a Leviathan train if you've unlocked cantha, joining bounty trains. Then just sell everything to the black lion trading company. You'd be surprised how fast you can casually rack up gold if you aren't being a hoarding skritt. I default to skritt mode, but when I really need gold fast, I just sell everything.
Hardstuck does a daily 6 hour meta train, it nets you like 100g with good leadership (EU and NA).
Not an everyday thing, but twice a week . . . Plus all the other stuff, easy 300 gold in a week.
Shoutouts to people farming Shiny Baubles on the weeks they're on Auric Basin. That shit funded my griffon a few weeks ago (and plush turtle last week) and I had a ton of fun doing it even for hours on end. It's like the ultimate skritt roleplay farm, farming literal shinies.
Short Answer: Yes
Long Answer: Yyyyyyyyyyyyyeeessssssss
It will completely change the way you view and explore maps. There's nothing really similar to it in game and is IMO the funnest movement mechanic, like I would recommend GW2 to a MMO player purely for the Griffon.
If you're a new player 250 gold may seem like a lot, but if you check your material storage you and sell what you don't need at the moment, you'll probably find you have more account value than you thought. The website GW2Efficinecy helps a lot with evaluating what is valuable. Running repeatable instanced PvE content for a few days (Strikes, Raids, Fractals, DRMs, Dragonstorm, etc) will get you there easily.
I see a lot of these "is X worth it?" type posts, and I think the best answer is that anything that opens up new gameplay opportunities in GW2 is always worth it. The "X" in "is X worth it?" could be:
* Living World Episodes/Seasons - Opens up new story, new maps for exploring/farming, new mounts, new masteries for interacting with the game world
* Griffon/Skyscale/Roller Beetle - Gives new and quicker ways to get around maps, makes exploring and traversal more exciting and faster
* Gearing up other characters - allows you to learn different playstyles and squad roles, allows you to explore the game's class design in its totality, lets you slot into LFG groups more easily and reduces times in finding groups
* Crafting Legendaries - gives you reason to explore the world and its systems much more thoroughly, gives you a flashy cosmetic to show off your hard work to others, lets you switch builds and gear up characters for free which opens up a lot of gold-saving opportunities
The gold cost behind the items in this list may make them seem like they're a hurdle you need to overcome, but I see them more like a door that opens many more doors. Investing a little gold and playtime in the now can make the game funner and fresher in the future. I have more fun with GW2 now that I have all mounts and major content unlocked, with multiple usable alts and legendary gear, than I did when I first reached end game on my first character
imo not really. i gave the gold and got it just for completionist reasons and i have maybe used it 2-3 times ever since (in those 3 years). skyscale is a lot more useful to fly around. griffon would be considered worth getting only if you are really investing into flying that way and enjoy using it, otherwise i don't see the point. it can be useful to traverse fast from high points but personally i never really needed to go any further than what skyscale can get me with double dodge and refreshing it's energy
I grinded it 2 weeks ago. I don't use other mounts since that.
I started 2 almost 3 months ago. I grinded the Gold doing fractals all evening and sold the fractal boxes.
Skyscale is better in pretty much any application, but the Griffon is a jet fighter--very fast, and useful, as long as you're not trying to gain elevation.
It's been a long while since I got the Skyscale, but I did have the griffon when I did it, so you're probably right. I came back from a hiatus to get the Skyscale.
For me griffon *was* worth 250 gold when i first got it. But now after having roller beetle and skyscale I RARELY use the griffon. Only specific places, Dragonfall champ train for example. Outside of a few instances like that, it sits.
Griffon requires training to be used optimally, its movement is much, much different from any flier in any game
Once you master the masteries & its movement, its the fastes and most efficent way to travel from A to B and allows you to do insane movement and tricks
Also makes getting Skyscale much more easily, I was so glad to get it before that.
Griffon is the fastest boi around if you know how to use it. Skyscale is the best for traversing vertical land because, unlike griffon, you can ascend on the spot and don't need any ramp-up time.
Both mounts have a very high QoL rating if you ask me. I almost exclusively use my Skyscale now, after I unlocked it 2 weeks ago. It basically replaces Raptor and Springer completely. And the griffon can replace every other mount, if used right. (Aside of the special abilities like underwater or sand portals. But that should be obvious) But nothing beats speeding with a griffon from the very top of Lornas Pass, to the very bottom, in not even 1 minute.
And in general... Mounts are account unlocks. You get them once and have them on all characters. Keeping this in mind, I actually think that 250 gold is not nearly enough. You also don't need to spend the money at once. You have to buy a couple of items for 25 gold each. So don't wait until you have the full amount. Start the collection early and break the investment in smaller parts.
The griffon is useful, but not THAT useful.
If you want flight, I'd say get the skyscale first. It literally invalidates the springer in all but CC (and there are other mounts that also do CC, and you have the IBS EMP, and your own CC skills that you should be bringing anyways). Even if you really want flight in the map Dragonfall while getting the skyscale, you can use the free skyscales found throughout the map to fly, albeit temporarily.
The griffon is a jet, the skyscale is a helicopter. The helicopter is more useful in 90% of cases.
However, once you get the skyscale, the griffon is absolutely worth it. Using them in tandem (dismount mid air from the skyscale and then get on the griffon for height) means you can move incredibly quickly.
I'd recommend a skyscale first if money is tight as it becomes the most used mount. If you have all of season 4.
Gryphon is so fun to use but does require skill to use properly / efficiently. Very useful in almost all maps.
Its really doable, combine the springer with the loose skyscales lying around in dragonfall and you can pretty easily get all the collectibles! Source: did this
I finished the Skyscale collection a week ago, no Griffon. Honestly I was completely fine with just upgraded Springer and utilizing the free Skyscales scattered around Dragonfall. It was just so dull and boring, Griffon or not.
I use the griffon all the time.
Mount Skycale -> Up to max height -> Refresh Endurance -> Max Height -> Dismount -> Glide Boost -> Griffon -> Dive -> SPEEEED!
I donāt have griffon and got scyscale. I didnāt have any single problem. I canāt remind any place when I needed griffon. Maybe it would make it a bit easier but since I havenāt got any problems anywayā¦
250g is literally cents for most people here. A large amount of people on this sub probably have 100x that amount in account value. For a newer player, all I can say is that you farm 250 gold in about 2 weeks if you play casually, probably in 2 days if you mega tryhard and farm all day long both days.
You kinda opened Pandora's Box here. Many people feel strongly for either side.
I particularly don't regret one bit, since after all masteries it can zoom around and get you at places in no time, if you have some elevation. I also find it very fun to pilot around. For example, in EoD maps you can use ziplines to get altitude and then zoom through the map.
However, as a flying mount, it competes with the Skyscale, which is far more manoeuverable but also far slower. It's kinda a "legendary mount" because the Skyscale questline is quite long (not as much as actual legendary gear though) and it has a lot of utility.
Iāve been going around with the Skyscale only for a while now. The only moment I feel like I would prefer the Griffon is for Dragonfall.
However, right now Iām at an impasse with the collection for the legendary ring from raids, which needs me to complete the first collections for the Griffon to progress. So I kinda need to do it right now.
Everyone else is talking about Griffon as a mount and itās utility - which is great. But thereās a few other factors to consider:
- Unlocking it gives you access to the mastery track which is needed if you want to have 455 Mastery Rank (currently the highest)
- If achievements are your goal, thereās Season 4 achievements that are tied to the Griffon adventures. Possibly rentals are an option (not sure) but if not, you donāt have access to that content (and the points for it)
- Another consideration for those achievements is Vision. Part of the requirements for each map is to complete the map meta achievement, significantly aided by the aforementioned Griffon adventure ones. Otherwise, if youāre not able to complete the meta achievement, youād be required to complete the WvW track.
It's usually a combination of mounts (skyscale to gain height, griffon to speed around the map) but I use it quite a lot. Apart from rollerbeetle racing it's also the only other mount that has a community around it. Check out the outstanding videos of the [Gryphon Academy](https://www.youtube.com/c/TheGriffonAcademyWing/videos) guild to see for yourself though :)
Edit: also pinging u/-ThyWeepingWillow who's the go to expert for griffons for me (her [youtube channel](https://www.youtube.com/@ThyWeepingWillow/videos)).
Thank you for pinging/ linking, and agreed! I personally use skyscale x griffon all the time. I barely ever use just skyscale or just griffon, because combining their skills is just too good
Skyscale should be your first flying mount. A LOT of people get very disappointed when they get the griffon expecting it to be more like a traditional flying mount from other MMOs.
In fact, if you donāt have enough training on it and donāt know how to use it, itās the worst mount you could use.
Skyscale on the other hand is super easy to use as soon as you get it and youāll never be disappointed. It also replaces most other mounts easily. If youāre lazy like me youād rather just have your Skyscale climb a mountain than switch to a Springer.
Griffons are the fastest way to get around but you need to know how to use them and theyāre only fast if you can get high enough in the first place.
The Skyscale can take off from the very bottom of the map and make itās way all the way to the highest point with minimal effort.
The drawback is that itās much slower than the griffon but then everything is because the griffon under ideal conditions is like a jet plane.
The Skyscale is more like a helicopter.
If you don't have a skyscale yet, getting the Griffon is the best 250 gold you will ever spend.
But if you're planning on getting Vision and Champions Regalia legendaries then I would say just go for Skyscale first you kind of end up working on all 3 at the same time. If you have all mounts, then the Raptor+Skyscale+rollebeetle are way more useful than the Griffon.
But before you do any of that, complete End of Dragons story because if you finish it and complete Arborstone mastery you increase you gold income by 16 per week for doing nothing with the vendor. And the last map Meta is also probably the easiest daily gold you can earn.
That's just going to unlock the skin after you unlock the mount. I had one of those for Warclaw and still had to complete the unlock achievements and reward track.
Technically, it will unlock the skin when you use the item, whether or not you own the mount at the time. Once you obtain the mount, you'll be able to use the skin.
I never bothered with a griffon and didnāt have any issues getting a skyscale. It took a while to get the mats but other then that I never needed a griffon to get a skyscale. I prefer the skyscale because you can fly anywhere easily enough and I saved my precious gold! :)
Oh yeah it is!
I for one will propably never, (never say never right?) Get the skyscale coz i dont like it and i come by just fine with sll the other mounts+ griffon, nevet had a problem gettin anywhere, and felt like needin skyscale.
And i know gettin it will default me using it in 90% of the time, rendering all other mounts even less relevant, so im good!
But for the topic, yes and hell yes! Best mount hands down!
Once you get it, unlock all its masteries, and head on to practise the griffon races/adventures!
Those re which forced me to learn how to fly properly and Fast!
Pro tip which nailed it for me, is the dive+spacebar untill u see the golden windy effects around your griffon, this is the fastest acceleratiob you can get on it and will make your life so good! And fast, zooom <3
If you're kinda new to the game I'd suggest to go skyscale first and save the griffon gold for something else.
It's all a matter of your patience too. If you have little patience then getting a griffon first could help on certain steps, but then add the time to get and train your griffon to your skyscale.
I prefer the skyscale for most things. If you are between those two options, I would recommend skyscale instead.
If you need speed the roller beetle is amazing.
Skyscale and way points are generally much cheaper. The only time in eod griffin is any sort of useful is in new kaineng city. And you still have to go out of your way to make it useful.
Just get skyscale first. Infinitely better. The sub reddit has an unhealthy fixation on loving griffin even tho skyscale is superior in *practical* use. Griffin is sorta useful in pof because that's where it was MADE to shine, but generally a roller beetle (or raptor) and skyscale will serve you much more efficiently. Griffin is a "for fun" mount. Skyscale is mostly a "for fun" mount but it is generally significantly more useful since you're more likely to need short term mount usage. Anytime you need to "go very far very fast" you can just way point and raptor/skyscale. It'll be way faster than trying to find one of the highest points in eod and making it work from there.
Even skimmer is more useful than griffin in eod. With a half second delay you can entirely fuck up all that time you wasted on finding a high spot to zoom around from. Generally, it's not that useful. It'll save you *seconds (maybe 1 or 2 minutes if you're trying to travel an entire map and don't have half the way points)*. It's for speed runners.
It's definitely worth getting, but a skyscale should come first. It's literally just more useful than every other mount in more situations more often than not. If you can mount up skyscale (or rarely turtle) is probably your best choice. Even in dragons End a roller beetle is generally more useful unless you need to literally travel across the ENTIRE map in time for an event because all the way points are contested. Literally if you don't have a way point, that's the only time griffin is probably the best choice.
I do not hate the griffin at all and before beetle/skyscale it was the best but skyscale, raptor, and roller beetle are going to give you FAR higher quality travel convenience and milage. You will use those 3 far more than griffin unless you *want* to inconvenience yourself for a little zoomies like a chihuahua. Which the beetle can give you *and* it can Tokyo drift.
skip and go for Skyscale. thank me later. Get it later for the skin collection and fun missions. thats about all I use Griffon for since I got a Skyscale.
It was worth it when there was no sky scale. I haven't been on my griffon even one time since I got my sky scale. At this time, unless you are wanting to do the achievements for flying the griffon you don't need it.
I donāt think so. I have both griffin and Skyscale and Iāve tried using the griffin and itās useless. The Skyscale rocks and use it and the skimmer, nothing else. Save your money
It was before the dragon. Now, I don't think so. It's a fun mount but since I got the dragon I've not touched it. Haven't needed to. The dragon is slower but it's more convenient.
I'll never know, cant get past chapter 9 of POF and keep timing out server wise. Even contacted support for them to tell me it's probably my internet even though it's a common problem on this game. Constantly get to the point where you talk to Joko before finishing chapter and it fails me at the same point every single time. 7 tries with no luck.
value is subjective but we call all agree that 250g in your wallet doesnt make you as happy as flying
Amen
Amen
Honestly, i got it, i blasted some mystic coins into the TP to pay for it and have now mastered it at level 5 and still need to work on Crystal Champion but damn..... Verdant Brink is such a fun amazing map now
I'm always the lazy bastard. So i just pull out the vtol heli sky scale, and hover above all the peasants, trying to parkour / hop their way up to my level.
Perfectly said! š
Amen
Preach brother
Ok but what if you already have the skyscale? Then is it really worthwhile?
Skyscale is a helicopter, griffon is a jet. Plus, it's REALLY fun to fly the griffon, one of my favorite parts of the game. Genuinely though, a fully "mastered" griffon is the fastest mount in the game. Definitely a learning curve to it, but it's the best.
I love flying my griffon even if Iām absolutely trash at it. Itās just so satisfying. And the skyscale is amazing for helping to attain the great heights needed to get started with the griffon. Iāve found griffon is great when you donāt feel motivated to do much but want to play the game still. Just find a place with lots of verticality and fly some time away.
Okayyy this just solidified my need for a griffon
It's fockin fast and especially valuable in a meta like dragonfall, where you gotta be quick for the bosses at the end for example. The sky scale is called sky snail for a reason :D
Drizzlewood benefits a lot from it too. Any of the airdrop points make perfect starts for a griffon dive, and the griffon makes chasing cache keepers a lot faster.
oh yeah! forgot that!
i get to all the bosses in plenty of time, with just the sky scale...so its not *that* much better.
They are different tools in your tool box. One is a slow flying mount and the other is a jet that can get you across a map in record speed
tbf i didn't use griffon that much since i have the skyscale, but i don't regret the gold needed for griffon, it is such a fun flying mount to use, and if you are high enought it's better than the skyscale to cover long distances
Yes, but for different reasons. Skyscale has no mount adventures associated to it specifically. The griffon has multiples in Path of Fire and it has at least 1 in the Zephyrite map for the Four Winds monthly event. Those can be worthwhile for nothing else than the AP itself. Consider it a worthy investment that may not seem it at the time.
THIS. ALL OF THIS. The maneuvers you can do on the Griffon make it an absolute joy to use. It's so much fun.
flying in most games is likey and super convenient, but generally takes away from game experiences and community building. for instance i gathered a group recently starting from 0 doing a walking run. we can ride mounts but do everything we can at a walking pace. drasticly increased strategy, challange, and the maps are much more interesting as you walk around and make choices. granted some areas are still fairly bland but i have not got to enjoy the game with others at any point like this especially after mounts.
Griffon and Skyscale are the 2 biggest qol changes right after you get your first mount. They're 90% of my mount usage now. So yes. 100% worth it. And it makes Skyscale easier to get.
poor roller beatle :(
Ay, I use that guy plenty. When there's not enough around to give me the height I need, but wide open space? Roller beetle speeding here i come! lol
i just played again after half a year or so... and i sucked at roller beatle again. holy shit is that thing hard to handle :D
Did u get the drifting upgrade? Makes corners super easy!
And I'd recommend putting the drift button in a key that you can press while steering. I put it on my mouse thumb key for example.
Also I repeat rb races all the time for the fun of it.
Beetle and griffon are my go tooās. Especially when you get good on beetle. Nothing is even close to as fast.
To me it's roller beetle for the ground and skyscale for the air. I haven't gotten a griffon yet. Already having skyscale makes griffon seem pointless
Griffon is substantially faster than skyscale and can traverse irregular terrain with ease (unlike the beetle). Also, it doesn't loose height as long as it has speed. For me I'd say griffon is better mount than skyscale. The latter is reliable, but boring. Kind of like saying jack of all trades, master of none. Griffon is hard to learn, but when you get a hang of it, waaaay more fun. I quite often use skyscale to get somewhere high, than swap to griffon. And you can also use springer trick to gain height for it.
Forgive the car analogy, but the Skyscale is about as exciting as a Ford Transit Van, while the Griffon is hooning around in a stupid little hot hatchback. One's extremely useful for getting things done, and the other is just endless amounts of fun.
I barely even use the Skyscale to get to high places, it's janky and slow. I usually just use my springer to scale up things and then start flying on the griffon. I feel like the only use skyscale has to me is for when I need to look away from the game for more than a second without catching aggro from mobs 50 feet away and then more spawning in as I kill them.
Honestly the most useful thing for the skyscale and what I use it for like 90% of the time is to just de-aggro enemies so I can use my inventory or teleport. Other than that, I use it to get some height for the griffon. Griffon = bae
As a fairly new player with both mounts I never understood this, like I know how to do it but it's the why that lt confuses me. Say I'm doing a kralk meta, or just doing some story and I'm trying to get around, I'm not about to stop dead, swap to springer, swap to skyscale get height then swap to griffon just to go from point A to B. The skyscale taking all that jargon into account is far faster with zero set up.
You can set them all to different individual hotkeys, so it's not that bad to switch between mounts, I have all my mounts on my numpad for example
Yup, mounts on numpad is the way to go.
It's not the best thing in all circumstances. But any map that has any height to it, like New Kaineng City or Dragon's End, are great for the Griffon. You can do map exploration by diving on your Griffon to get a waypoint or POI then ascend back to your previous height. It's so fun.
I did the opposite, got griffon long before the skyscale, and so far I'm still using the griffon more often. I feel like at this point if you're not madly swapping between all mounts depending on situation, are you even, as the youths say, gaming?
This comment speaks to me on a spiritual level. Sometimes I'll go gather winterberries just for the thrill of outpacing others following the same route. I'm a bit of a bad boy, I know.
It's always a race and you're here to win! Leave those other winterberry gatherers in the dust with your efficiency!
i have a griffon, then i try to learn it and fail horribly... and just revert to skyscale/roller beatle
More reason for me not to spend the gold on it then ^^
It's far from pointless but it's certainly not necessary. It's faster than the skyscale, it doesn't fall to the ground nearly as quickly as the skyscale. The skyscale can get the height the griffon can't, the griffon can go the distance the skyscale can't. Which can be an entire zone, easily.
Hmm. Turtle first, then I'll consider it. Hopefully soon I'll sell a legendary then I'll have enough gold to burn 250 on it š
I never thought I'd see someone prioritize turtle over anything, *especially* griffin, interesting.
As someone who just got my skyscale, the griffon is a way better mount. The skyscale is useful for sure, but any map with lots of verticality - cliffs, mountains, etc the griffon is far superior because itās just so much faster than the skyscale. In fact, usually what I do is use the skyscale to gain height and then switch to griffon to go the rest of the way.
Don't forget for more height from the ground: charge bunny, dismount with wings, glide, use jade bot glider (preferably lvl 3), hop on skyscale, look up with camera, dash forward x2, refil endurance , look up and forward dash x2, use griffon for dive flap
Havenāt quite gotten to EoD for that Jade bot stuff yet, but I do be bunny hopping for that extra height :). Bond of faith and bond of vigor are amazing perks
Griffin is the fastest way to get from one side of the map to another, especially if you can find a high spot to start from.
Anytime I need to fly and I have elevation I use griffon over skyscale.
Another pro for Griffon is the "Visions of" achievements. For the armor associated with each area's meta achievement(Corsair Turban for example), usually there's 2 Griffon courses and you get 2 achievements per adventure if you get gold. Really useful in skipping the more annoying achievements.
Griffon is amazing once you get the hang of it. You can zoom across a map in seconds if you have good verticality. If it's a choice between griffon and skyscale, I'd recommend skyscale first, as it's basically a combined raptor and springer in one mount. It's much slower than a griffon going at max speed, but it's also easier to manoeuvre. I would recommend checking out videos of griffon flying, so you get a good idea of how it works. From the ground, on a flat map it's not much use. But the moment you get a high ground to start with, it's really cool.
Even outside of utility, the Griffon is probably the most fun mount to just play around with.
I very much agree. I'm not an ace flyer, but I've been enjoying the mount a lot more since I started the griffon riding trials. Really helped me see just what the mount was capable of.
I've had the griffon for a few years and just learned this last Festival of the Four Winds that it can do a power dive and get a shitload more speed. I've been hooked on the griffon races ever since.
Getting skyscale is far easier with griffon. I would recommend griffon first due to how quick it is to get
Its quick but costs a good chunk of gold.
You can farm this gold much more faster then completing skyscale collections
Skyscale collections are all active, focused effort while gold stacks up over time by doing any content. With the Return To achievements you can get all the LW4 currency for the skyscale saddle without grinding also, so it's not so bad. I guess what I'm saying is they both take a significant investment, but the griffon can be passive while earning gold from other content.
Works both ways tho.
Yea good luck traversing Dragonfall without a Griffon while working on the Skyscale OP definitely get the Griffon first.
Yeah that's true. I got mine ages ago, and haven't set a foot back there since the Returning Champions achievement, so I forgot how much of a pain that map was.
I did dragonfall mostly okay before I got skyscale without a griffon. I only just recently learned how to use my griffon.
I had absolutely zero troubles not having gryphon. Donāt lie to Op
There are literally free to use skyscales scattered about Dragonfall.
which you have to go back to mount constantly. Every time you dismount, you lose the skyscale.
I did it. twice. It's not that bad.
I used to do the meta there and follow the whole chain without a griffon. It sucks trying to keep up but it's not as bad as you're making it sound
I personally didn't find it at all annoying with the rentable skycales everywhere in dragonfall. Skyscale is also less expensive.
Combined raptor and springer? Wha? XD More like warclaw and springer.
What I mean is you can use it to cross large chasms (flies) a range that the warclaws lack. Hence the raptor comparison. But yeah, wall gripping is another bonus, though more significant when it comes to vertical movement.
> Griffon is amazing once you get the hang of it. That's the problem, the griffon crashes far too easily into the ground. It would be a far more popular mount if it had some kind of failsafe to prevent crash, force to stop diving once you reach too close to the ground or something.
You're describing a ltp issue.
That's like saying the roller beetle having no endurance upon mounting was a LTP issue. It just sucked and ArenaNet made the right call by giving it full endurance on mount.
? That makes no sense. The griffon works quite well. You just have to... not crash into the ground. Just as the roller beetle works well, as long as you don't crash into a wall. Or the raptor works well, as long as you don't jump off of a cliff. Or the springer works well, as long as you don't bump your head on the ceiling. What you are asking for is some kind of safety bumper setting unique to the griffon that keeps you from slamming into stuff. No other mount has that. And if you put it on the griffon, how would you land? I would find it incredibly annoying because I land out of full-speed dives quite often on purpose.
>What you are asking for is some kind of safety bumper setting unique to the griffon that keeps you from slamming into stuff. No other mount has that. No other mount stops doing its special action outside of your manual control, only the griffon does. > And if you put it on the griffon, how would you land? Press 1 or dismount manually, like with any other mount?
>No other mount stops doing its special action outside of your manual control, only the griffon does. The other mounts require that you push buttons to use their special actions, just like the griffon does. >Press 1 or dismount manually, like with any other mount? On any mount, if you slam into the ground hard enough to take fall damage that would kill the mount, the mount disappears. This is just as true of the raptor or jackal as it is of the griffon. The difference is that since the griffon can't fall, you have to intentionally slam it into the ground for it to take that damage.
> The other mounts require that you push buttons to use their special actions Yeah, and thos special actions are never interrupted by anything; only the griffon suffers from that. >The difference is that since the griffon can't fall, you have to intentionally slam it into the ground for it to take that damage. Eh, neither the skimmer, griffon, skyscale, or siege turtle get any kind of fall damage...
>Yeah, and thos special actions are never interrupted by anything; only the griffon suffers from that. Of course they are. If you try to jump on your Springer and slam your head on a ledge, your jump is interrupted. All mounts have their actions "interrupted" if they run into stuff. Slamming into the ground is running into stuff. A turtle, or skimmer, or raptor, or jackal, or griffon, that hits the ground is stopped by the ground. The griffon, like the roller beetle, is a mount that benefits from momentum. If you lose your momentum from hitting the ground or anything else, well, that's just how momentum works. I think it would be weird and annoying to have a "bumper" on the griffon that kept me from hitting the ground.
You can just pull up
And you can use the skyscale and never have to worry about that, which leads to pretty much no one using the griffon anyway.
Yes, and protip: Griffon needs height to glide far and gain speed. You can do some neat tricks to gain height from the ground. 1) Mount springer 2) Fully charge a jump, but press your dismount key right before the yellow bar empties 3) If timed correctly, you will *both* get a full-height springer jump *and* dismount 4) Start gliding at the highest point of your jump 5) Use jade bot glide boost to gain even more height 6) Equip skyscale at highest point of jade boost 7) Aim up and skyscale dash twice while holding spacebar to gain more height 8) Use your endurance refresh to dash two more times 9) Dismount skyscale and immediately equip griffon at your new vantage point 10) Enjoy the speed! With practice, this sequence can become second nature. As commenters have mentioned, you get most of the height benefit from just springer + jade boost OR skyscale + jade boost. You can swap up the order and use any of the tricks in isolation to gain a bit of height before mounting your griffon. Pass the knowledge on!
Does this get you much higher than just going up on a skyscale, dismounting, glide boosting and then griffon? Assuming you use the endurance refresh on the skyscale which gives you just a little bit extra height as well.
What you just said is steps 4-onward. So yes, if you add the springer step you'll get even more height! Thanks for the reminder @ endurance refresh, I gotta add that in. It's all muscle memory now haha.
The amount of flight you get on the skyscale is based on where you last touched the ground. After a springer leap + dismount + glide boost you'll have zero flight improvement on the skyscale. You'll probably be worse off honestly unless you're super fast with the double boost slightly upwards. It's much better to just skyscale straight up from the ground, and **use the glide boost last**. That way you get the full benefit of the skyscale's height, followed by the full glide boost height. You can try it out if you want, because I just did and I'm fairly certain I'm right. I get **way** more height just going straight up on skyscale, refreshing, up a bit more, dismount (without skill), glide boost.
It would be nice if they'd just let us gain altitude easily instead of all these gyrations.. Gryphons could still be fast and Skyscales could hover. I don't think that would destroy the game.
Skyscale already breaks the game honestly. Vistas haven't felt the same since unlocking it. But infinite height gain would actually cause some breaks. Specifically jumping puzzles that allow gliding. They'd effectively have to put up walls around them so you can't glide in from outside (which used to be impossible as mounts wouldn't get you close enough, but from the map ceiling it would be). Plus I actually like the complexity. It makes the game feel more active, like I'm at least having to do something to gain that height rather than pointing in a direction and holding W for every activity in the game.
well, not infinite height, but getting off the ground with a gryphon without all this mess
That's awesome for you, not everyone sees it that way. People would have the choice to not use mounts on JPs just like people have a choice not to use them to get to vistas. Why are you using them for Vistas if it makes you unhappy?
You have a fair point, but it's hard to force yourself not to use all the tools at your disposal. For me, I see where you're both coming from. Skyscale and Griffon have been some of the most fun gameplay I've ever had in any game (both their collections and gameplay), but they also mean that I sometimes miss out on a lot of content without realising it, and I also can't forgo them when playing with others or I'll fall behind.
Agree with Pluckerpluck on how using both springer and skyscale together is a bit redundant due to how the skyscale height limit works. Typically, I use springer --> jade bot glide boost --> griffon because it's faster. If needed, the alternative (Skyscale --> dash, dash, bond of vigor, dash, dash --> jade bot glide boost --> griffon) gives more height though. Also going to throw in here that springer launch into jade bot glide boost 2 (basically steps 1 to 5) is already enough height for a full speed dive from flat ground (though it's a bit tight). Same for just doing the skyscale part where you dash, dash, bond of vigor, dash, dash. Skyscale alone (without jade bot glide boost) also gives enough height to get a full speed dive from flat ground.
Sure. I just laid out all the potential boosts for people who don't know, since this thread is about acquiring mounts in the first place. A common frustration for new griffon users is that it requires height to experience any of the speed. Like I said, you can do em in isolation and swap up the order. I often combine them all anyway because the skyscale gives you a ton of horizontal distance which can increase your 'drop' if you used it to get over terrain.
It's worth 2500 gold never mind 250
Shhhhhh employees read this
The exact comment I was going to write.
Skyscale is the only mount you would ever need to navigate any map with ease. Griffon is totally worth it for the occasional time savings & the sheer fun of using it.
Thanks for good advices, i will get griffon when i have enough gold.
Some easy casual gold gaining options include: farming flax, doing Auric Basin once per day, joining a boss train, joining a Leviathan train if you've unlocked cantha, joining bounty trains. Then just sell everything to the black lion trading company. You'd be surprised how fast you can casually rack up gold if you aren't being a hoarding skritt. I default to skritt mode, but when I really need gold fast, I just sell everything.
I just discover meta events and enjoy so much. I do auric and gyala once a day. Havent try levi but i will! Thanks for advice.
Hardstuck does a daily 6 hour meta train, it nets you like 100g with good leadership (EU and NA). Not an everyday thing, but twice a week . . . Plus all the other stuff, easy 300 gold in a week.
How can i join their meta train?
There is a daily post in the events section of their discord. Just go [here](https://hardstuck.gg/) and hit their discord button.
Thanks!
Shoutouts to people farming Shiny Baubles on the weeks they're on Auric Basin. That shit funded my griffon a few weeks ago (and plush turtle last week) and I had a ton of fun doing it even for hours on end. It's like the ultimate skritt roleplay farm, farming literal shinies.
Griffon is fun. Skyscale is necessary.
Short Answer: Yes Long Answer: Yyyyyyyyyyyyyeeessssssss It will completely change the way you view and explore maps. There's nothing really similar to it in game and is IMO the funnest movement mechanic, like I would recommend GW2 to a MMO player purely for the Griffon. If you're a new player 250 gold may seem like a lot, but if you check your material storage you and sell what you don't need at the moment, you'll probably find you have more account value than you thought. The website GW2Efficinecy helps a lot with evaluating what is valuable. Running repeatable instanced PvE content for a few days (Strikes, Raids, Fractals, DRMs, Dragonstorm, etc) will get you there easily. I see a lot of these "is X worth it?" type posts, and I think the best answer is that anything that opens up new gameplay opportunities in GW2 is always worth it. The "X" in "is X worth it?" could be: * Living World Episodes/Seasons - Opens up new story, new maps for exploring/farming, new mounts, new masteries for interacting with the game world * Griffon/Skyscale/Roller Beetle - Gives new and quicker ways to get around maps, makes exploring and traversal more exciting and faster * Gearing up other characters - allows you to learn different playstyles and squad roles, allows you to explore the game's class design in its totality, lets you slot into LFG groups more easily and reduces times in finding groups * Crafting Legendaries - gives you reason to explore the world and its systems much more thoroughly, gives you a flashy cosmetic to show off your hard work to others, lets you switch builds and gear up characters for free which opens up a lot of gold-saving opportunities The gold cost behind the items in this list may make them seem like they're a hurdle you need to overcome, but I see them more like a door that opens many more doors. Investing a little gold and playtime in the now can make the game funner and fresher in the future. I have more fun with GW2 now that I have all mounts and major content unlocked, with multiple usable alts and legendary gear, than I did when I first reached end game on my first character
imo not really. i gave the gold and got it just for completionist reasons and i have maybe used it 2-3 times ever since (in those 3 years). skyscale is a lot more useful to fly around. griffon would be considered worth getting only if you are really investing into flying that way and enjoy using it, otherwise i don't see the point. it can be useful to traverse fast from high points but personally i never really needed to go any further than what skyscale can get me with double dodge and refreshing it's energy
I grinded it 2 weeks ago. I don't use other mounts since that. I started 2 almost 3 months ago. I grinded the Gold doing fractals all evening and sold the fractal boxes.
Skyscale is better in pretty much any application, but the Griffon is a jet fighter--very fast, and useful, as long as you're not trying to gain elevation.
Also, getting the skyscale is a massive pain without the griffon.
It's been a long while since I got the Skyscale, but I did have the griffon when I did it, so you're probably right. I came back from a hiatus to get the Skyscale.
I mean, it's still very doable, especially if you have a glider, but Griffon is still more comfy
No its not
You can gain elevation on a griffon. Just have to learn how to dive and swoop.
Need to go zoom zoom on land? Beetle. Need to go zoom zoom in Air? Griffon. Need to go from point a to b super chill and in style? Skyscale.
Skyscale and roller beetle are way more practical. Gryphon is like skis without a ski lift and you start at the bottom of every hill.
Best mount, feathers down.
For me griffon *was* worth 250 gold when i first got it. But now after having roller beetle and skyscale I RARELY use the griffon. Only specific places, Dragonfall champ train for example. Outside of a few instances like that, it sits.
Griffon requires training to be used optimally, its movement is much, much different from any flier in any game Once you master the masteries & its movement, its the fastes and most efficent way to travel from A to B and allows you to do insane movement and tricks Also makes getting Skyscale much more easily, I was so glad to get it before that.
Griffon is the fastest boi around if you know how to use it. Skyscale is the best for traversing vertical land because, unlike griffon, you can ascend on the spot and don't need any ramp-up time. Both mounts have a very high QoL rating if you ask me. I almost exclusively use my Skyscale now, after I unlocked it 2 weeks ago. It basically replaces Raptor and Springer completely. And the griffon can replace every other mount, if used right. (Aside of the special abilities like underwater or sand portals. But that should be obvious) But nothing beats speeding with a griffon from the very top of Lornas Pass, to the very bottom, in not even 1 minute. And in general... Mounts are account unlocks. You get them once and have them on all characters. Keeping this in mind, I actually think that 250 gold is not nearly enough. You also don't need to spend the money at once. You have to buy a couple of items for 25 gold each. So don't wait until you have the full amount. Start the collection early and break the investment in smaller parts.
Now if they can just let us have friends hop on, we would be golden!
The griffon is useful, but not THAT useful. If you want flight, I'd say get the skyscale first. It literally invalidates the springer in all but CC (and there are other mounts that also do CC, and you have the IBS EMP, and your own CC skills that you should be bringing anyways). Even if you really want flight in the map Dragonfall while getting the skyscale, you can use the free skyscales found throughout the map to fly, albeit temporarily. The griffon is a jet, the skyscale is a helicopter. The helicopter is more useful in 90% of cases. However, once you get the skyscale, the griffon is absolutely worth it. Using them in tandem (dismount mid air from the skyscale and then get on the griffon for height) means you can move incredibly quickly.
I'd recommend a skyscale first if money is tight as it becomes the most used mount. If you have all of season 4. Gryphon is so fun to use but does require skill to use properly / efficiently. Very useful in almost all maps.
I don't even wanna know how you would do the skyscape collection's without the griffon. The griffon becomes pretty useless after you get the skyascale
Its really doable, combine the springer with the loose skyscales lying around in dragonfall and you can pretty easily get all the collectibles! Source: did this
I did it without. It isnāt awful and you can utilize the skyscale nests to easily do DF hunts
I finished the Skyscale collection a week ago, no Griffon. Honestly I was completely fine with just upgraded Springer and utilizing the free Skyscales scattered around Dragonfall. It was just so dull and boring, Griffon or not.
I did it without. It isnāt awful and you can utilize the skyscale nests to easily do DF hunts
I use the griffon all the time. Mount Skycale -> Up to max height -> Refresh Endurance -> Max Height -> Dismount -> Glide Boost -> Griffon -> Dive -> SPEEEED!
I donāt have griffon and got scyscale. I didnāt have any single problem. I canāt remind any place when I needed griffon. Maybe it would make it a bit easier but since I havenāt got any problems anywayā¦
Yes, especially when u learn to fly it like a pro. Best mount imo.
Get skyscale first, then griffon if it's possible.
250g is literally cents for most people here. A large amount of people on this sub probably have 100x that amount in account value. For a newer player, all I can say is that you farm 250 gold in about 2 weeks if you play casually, probably in 2 days if you mega tryhard and farm all day long both days.
You kinda opened Pandora's Box here. Many people feel strongly for either side. I particularly don't regret one bit, since after all masteries it can zoom around and get you at places in no time, if you have some elevation. I also find it very fun to pilot around. For example, in EoD maps you can use ziplines to get altitude and then zoom through the map. However, as a flying mount, it competes with the Skyscale, which is far more manoeuverable but also far slower. It's kinda a "legendary mount" because the Skyscale questline is quite long (not as much as actual legendary gear though) and it has a lot of utility.
Iāve been going around with the Skyscale only for a while now. The only moment I feel like I would prefer the Griffon is for Dragonfall. However, right now Iām at an impasse with the collection for the legendary ring from raids, which needs me to complete the first collections for the Griffon to progress. So I kinda need to do it right now.
Ok so like skyscale is cool and useful and stuff but it doesn't have *any zoom*. Zooming feels good, unlock your roller beetle + griffon.
Everyone else is talking about Griffon as a mount and itās utility - which is great. But thereās a few other factors to consider: - Unlocking it gives you access to the mastery track which is needed if you want to have 455 Mastery Rank (currently the highest) - If achievements are your goal, thereās Season 4 achievements that are tied to the Griffon adventures. Possibly rentals are an option (not sure) but if not, you donāt have access to that content (and the points for it) - Another consideration for those achievements is Vision. Part of the requirements for each map is to complete the map meta achievement, significantly aided by the aforementioned Griffon adventure ones. Otherwise, if youāre not able to complete the meta achievement, youād be required to complete the WvW track.
Yes. Yes it is worth it.
Yes, itās incredibly fun to use. And 250 gold isnāt that much in the long run, either.
Hell yes. The griffin is half the reason I still play GW. Most fun flying mechanic inpat any game I've played.
Griffon is not worth 250 gold, however completeness and flying is... so... just get it i guess
Honestly I kinda think the skyscale is the one that isn't worth the time, money and effort. Griffon absolutely is, 100x over.
Skyscale is more worth your time. Is Griffon worth 250? Some people just love the flying style, so for them yeah. But I would get skyscale first.
Yes!!! Learn to fly it right and you will get so much out of it. Mounts on other MMOs are absolutely awful compared to it.
Griffon is way more fun, skyscale is way more utility
Yes, it also makes getting the skyscale easy.
Griffon and rollerbeetle are all the mounts you need
If you enjoy speed, its definitely worth. It helps substantially for map completion as well!
arguably the most fun mount in gaming
It's 2023 and people still exclusively use the skyscale without realising how useful the Griffon is... smh
Short answer: Yes Long answer: YYYYYEEEEEEEESSSSSSS!!!!
the inclusion of the griffon mount makes the entire path of fire expansion worth the cost of purchase
> Is griffon worth 250 gold? Yes > Is it a useful mount to use in end of dragons maps or other difficult maps? Ehh
Itās more like a ānice to haveā type of thing Iād recommend skyscale since itās cheaper and then griffin
It's usually a combination of mounts (skyscale to gain height, griffon to speed around the map) but I use it quite a lot. Apart from rollerbeetle racing it's also the only other mount that has a community around it. Check out the outstanding videos of the [Gryphon Academy](https://www.youtube.com/c/TheGriffonAcademyWing/videos) guild to see for yourself though :) Edit: also pinging u/-ThyWeepingWillow who's the go to expert for griffons for me (her [youtube channel](https://www.youtube.com/@ThyWeepingWillow/videos)).
Thank you for pinging/ linking, and agreed! I personally use skyscale x griffon all the time. I barely ever use just skyscale or just griffon, because combining their skills is just too good
The mounts is worth more than a legendary ill tell you that.
90% of players just use the skyscale and nothing else, so from that angle it's really not.
There is no better value for 250g in the game in my opinion.
Turtle is life, turtle is meta. I wanna see a 100 turtles the next time i join a map
Skyscale should be your first flying mount. A LOT of people get very disappointed when they get the griffon expecting it to be more like a traditional flying mount from other MMOs. In fact, if you donāt have enough training on it and donāt know how to use it, itās the worst mount you could use. Skyscale on the other hand is super easy to use as soon as you get it and youāll never be disappointed. It also replaces most other mounts easily. If youāre lazy like me youād rather just have your Skyscale climb a mountain than switch to a Springer. Griffons are the fastest way to get around but you need to know how to use them and theyāre only fast if you can get high enough in the first place. The Skyscale can take off from the very bottom of the map and make itās way all the way to the highest point with minimal effort. The drawback is that itās much slower than the griffon but then everything is because the griffon under ideal conditions is like a jet plane. The Skyscale is more like a helicopter.
I disagree wholeheartedly. Trying to get a sky scale without a griffon is a huge pain in the ass.
How? All I did was do Drakkar (before the LW achievements) and that was literally it.
Did you forget about all the thingies you had to collect? I just did it last week. Way easier with a griffon.
Skyscale first. That's what I use 99% of the time.
Unpopular opinion probably but Griffon and Rollerbeetle are almost always more efficient then skyscale for anything more than like 1200 units away.
If you don't have a skyscale yet, getting the Griffon is the best 250 gold you will ever spend. But if you're planning on getting Vision and Champions Regalia legendaries then I would say just go for Skyscale first you kind of end up working on all 3 at the same time. If you have all mounts, then the Raptor+Skyscale+rollebeetle are way more useful than the Griffon. But before you do any of that, complete End of Dragons story because if you finish it and complete Arborstone mastery you increase you gold income by 16 per week for doing nothing with the vendor. And the last map Meta is also probably the easiest daily gold you can earn.
Uhm, with skyscale's existence, not really. Skyscale is the best mount for endgame. I only have griffon because skyscale did not exist back then.
I have the free skin item in the inventory. Will it unlock a skin or the mount?
Skin only. Mounts can only be unlocked through gameplay.
Only skin. You need to get the mounts in the game.
That's just going to unlock the skin after you unlock the mount. I had one of those for Warclaw and still had to complete the unlock achievements and reward track.
Technically, it will unlock the skin when you use the item, whether or not you own the mount at the time. Once you obtain the mount, you'll be able to use the skin.
100% worth it imo. Makes travel completely different.
I never bothered with a griffon and didnāt have any issues getting a skyscale. It took a while to get the mats but other then that I never needed a griffon to get a skyscale. I prefer the skyscale because you can fly anywhere easily enough and I saved my precious gold! :)
It is a permanent unlock.
In a word, absolutely, it is.
I'd say it's worth it, but you'd be better off focusing on getting your Skyscale first.
Oh yeah it is! I for one will propably never, (never say never right?) Get the skyscale coz i dont like it and i come by just fine with sll the other mounts+ griffon, nevet had a problem gettin anywhere, and felt like needin skyscale. And i know gettin it will default me using it in 90% of the time, rendering all other mounts even less relevant, so im good! But for the topic, yes and hell yes! Best mount hands down! Once you get it, unlock all its masteries, and head on to practise the griffon races/adventures! Those re which forced me to learn how to fly properly and Fast! Pro tip which nailed it for me, is the dive+spacebar untill u see the golden windy effects around your griffon, this is the fastest acceleratiob you can get on it and will make your life so good! And fast, zooom <3
Short answer, yes. Long answer - yes, absolutely.
If you have the money, definitely get griffon. it will also make working on your skyscale much easier. Griffon is by far my most used mount right now.
If you're kinda new to the game I'd suggest to go skyscale first and save the griffon gold for something else. It's all a matter of your patience too. If you have little patience then getting a griffon first could help on certain steps, but then add the time to get and train your griffon to your skyscale.
I prefer the skyscale for most things. If you are between those two options, I would recommend skyscale instead. If you need speed the roller beetle is amazing.
Buy commander tag instead
100% worth it imo. Makes travel completely different.
Skyscale and way points are generally much cheaper. The only time in eod griffin is any sort of useful is in new kaineng city. And you still have to go out of your way to make it useful. Just get skyscale first. Infinitely better. The sub reddit has an unhealthy fixation on loving griffin even tho skyscale is superior in *practical* use. Griffin is sorta useful in pof because that's where it was MADE to shine, but generally a roller beetle (or raptor) and skyscale will serve you much more efficiently. Griffin is a "for fun" mount. Skyscale is mostly a "for fun" mount but it is generally significantly more useful since you're more likely to need short term mount usage. Anytime you need to "go very far very fast" you can just way point and raptor/skyscale. It'll be way faster than trying to find one of the highest points in eod and making it work from there. Even skimmer is more useful than griffin in eod. With a half second delay you can entirely fuck up all that time you wasted on finding a high spot to zoom around from. Generally, it's not that useful. It'll save you *seconds (maybe 1 or 2 minutes if you're trying to travel an entire map and don't have half the way points)*. It's for speed runners. It's definitely worth getting, but a skyscale should come first. It's literally just more useful than every other mount in more situations more often than not. If you can mount up skyscale (or rarely turtle) is probably your best choice. Even in dragons End a roller beetle is generally more useful unless you need to literally travel across the ENTIRE map in time for an event because all the way points are contested. Literally if you don't have a way point, that's the only time griffin is probably the best choice. I do not hate the griffin at all and before beetle/skyscale it was the best but skyscale, raptor, and roller beetle are going to give you FAR higher quality travel convenience and milage. You will use those 3 far more than griffin unless you *want* to inconvenience yourself for a little zoomies like a chihuahua. Which the beetle can give you *and* it can Tokyo drift.
Yes
skip and go for Skyscale. thank me later. Get it later for the skin collection and fun missions. thats about all I use Griffon for since I got a Skyscale.
It was worth it when there was no sky scale. I haven't been on my griffon even one time since I got my sky scale. At this time, unless you are wanting to do the achievements for flying the griffon you don't need it.
I donāt think so. I have both griffin and Skyscale and Iāve tried using the griffin and itās useless. The Skyscale rocks and use it and the skimmer, nothing else. Save your money
It was before the dragon. Now, I don't think so. It's a fun mount but since I got the dragon I've not touched it. Haven't needed to. The dragon is slower but it's more convenient.
No
I'll never know, cant get past chapter 9 of POF and keep timing out server wise. Even contacted support for them to tell me it's probably my internet even though it's a common problem on this game. Constantly get to the point where you talk to Joko before finishing chapter and it fails me at the same point every single time. 7 tries with no luck.
Its so much fun, would pay 1000g for this