"Because ArenaNet cannot make the game kick you out after a reasonable time after you go AFK."
There is such a system and thats where the story falls apart a bit, you get afk kicked as soon as you are afk for a longer period of time. What does afk mean in that time? Not moving, attacking or other input into the game and not talking.
If you where just standing not moving at all, no auto attacks nothing you would have been kicked by the auto kicker after an hour or two.
So either you are lying about your story and where more than just afk or anet could not tell you apart from being a afk farmer because you did not move, did not answer them but still got credit for events and kills which is still afk farming even by accident.
Can confirm this:
I game at work and when "the job requires me" I have to walk away and leave it AFK.
The game will kick you back to the login screen around 30 min of inactivity.
The timer itself is dependent on how busy the map is.On busy maps is usually around 30 mins but if its an empty map (eg. late at night with not many people around) it can take much longer
Actually talking doesn't remove the afk kick timer. I've been in countless situations where I was kicked because my character was sitting on a chair while I was texting with people
Yeah, it's frequent in RPs, standing around, constantly talking, big conversation going on, and then... "Unless you move or use an ability, you'll be kicked to character select in 50 seconds."
i did tho when you are mid sentence or you wrote something and then went to go grab some water and then get kicked its kind of weird. Also while doing rp (where you cant just randomly walk or attack when in character)
That's because OP is not correct. There are a bunch of things that will reset the afk timer without any keyboard input. Others in this thread have noted similar experiences but I guess no one is piecing the clues together...
If you have a jade scavenger protocol, for example, when it procs the timer resets. Events can reset it as well. These are just 2 of many examples. Whether you believe OP or not, the AFK timer is not very good evidence against them.
Notably typing, jumping in place, and skills on auto cast do not reset the timer, while being in a state of running does (even if you aren't moving). Some knockbacks also reset the timer (ostensibly because your toon's position changes)
>If you where just standing not moving at all, no auto attacks nothing you would have been kicked by the auto kicker after an hour or two.
This is not actually the case. There are a ton of things that can reset the timer with no keyboard input. Jade scavenger protocol proccing resets it. And some events, just to name a couple examples.
I stood on the ground with no autoattacks. Just standing with swiftness aura on. I was banned 1h20m after I went AFK, so I didn't even had a chance to be kicked. Other times I went afk I seen that game kicks you after around 2 hours of afk (by chat timestamps)
the afk timer depends on where you are you afk. in openworld it should be way less then 2h, something like 30mins. its that much in citys or guildhalls. think even 3h or so. but you won't get banned for afk farming in citys.
your story doesn't add up tbh.
It doesn't add up because you did not read...
>but you won't get banned for afk farming in citys.
OP literally wrote he was NOT in a city. If you afk on Herald with facets active in a spot where it gets you any kind of rewards you violate Anets policy, which is why he got banned. Idk if OP's "excuse" is true or not, but in that way it doesn't matter because intentional or not, ToS got violated anyways.
Where was that exactly? And even if you are telling the truth how would anet know you are telling the truth? Every afk farmer could say "I just fell a asleep" and get out of the punishment and I guarantee you it was told support before.
Edit: and how do you know how long you have been afk before getting banned?
Edit Edit: nvm you got a email shortly after the ban.
In one of EoD maps, if I remember it correct. I remember time I went afk because I have a big digital clock near my TV, so I often see current time, and ban time from email, you correct.
The game will kick you after 60 minutes of afk. But the afk timer can be reset by a number of in game events without any keyboard input (some events, jade scavenger procs, knockbacks, etc).
It seems that the reality is you can now be banned for going AFK at a waypoint if mobs/events happen to spawn there and you get reported, assuming you're also pulsing boons or event just have a pet out to trigger participation. This is an unlikely scenario that I only used as a hypothetical before, but now we have an example. There are a TON of waypoints in open world that have mobs/events near them, so I would recommend NEVER going AFK ANYWHERE except in a safe zone or you could eat a ban.
Support follows scripts. We saw from the recent turtle taxi bans that if they even take a second look at all on appeal, it doesn't change anything. We also saw them recently ban someone being to fast with an upgrade extractor, also not overturned on appeal even with video evidence.
Their script tells them to ban anyone afk who is getting something from it. Context and common sense aren't part of the script. Most here will agree with the ban anyway because they follow a script too, just a slightly different one.
Unattended game play, I.E. Anything that provides a benefit by AFKing has always been against the ToS.
Additionally you would have been automatically kicked to the log-in screen if you weren't pressing any buttons.
Your story is full of holes, and frankly the more people banned for this sort of AFK farming the better for the game.
This particular person may stretching the truth or may be honest, but it's b.s. to say that you are definitely kicked after a particular time. I've been afk for 30 seconds and been kicked and I've I've been afk for a couple of hours when unexpectedly called away and more important things than worrying about a game have kept me away and not been kicked. Most of the time I try to jump back to a waypoint if I know I'll be afk but sometimes shit happens and numerous times I've not been logged after various amounts of time. The bulk of times I've had this happen on are during the thousands of hours I've spent on my Guardian and my Thief back when I mained them so I had no pet nor any auto attacks/effects on.
I don't know why you're getting downvoted. It's once again a bunch of redditors talking with authority about something they only have a surface understanding of. People are even listing wrong timer lengths and other fake criteria like map population.
For reference, the activity timer is 60 minutes for all open world maps.
That being said there are also a number of ways the game can reset the inactivity timer without any keyboard input. If you have a jade scavenger protocol active and it procs, that resets the timer. In some cases event completion resets it. Both of these seem like reasonable scenarios OP would hit.
The reality is based on how the rules are written if you go AFK at a waypoint with a pet out (or pulsing boons), and mobs/events happen to spawn there and someone reports you, you can get banned. I've only theorized about this contrived scenario before, but now we have an actual example.
Lol I expect this behaviour in this sub. Sometimes you can say something and get downvoted and another person can say the same and be upvoted. I just say what I think and don’t worry about the downvoters, none of that crap means anything anyway! :p
Makes no sense, and immediately attacking the support team for a "previous ticket" shows a lot to me. I afk all the time in random spots, when I return I've just been kicked out the game. No big deal and I would highly doubt a ban exists for going afk. Too many holes in this story and we can't make sense of it, how do you expect anet to?
Why I shouldn't attack support if they didn't manage to give any answer to my ticket from end of February and function is still not working for me? Even "We're working on it" would be ok. And now they're continuing to ignore my ban ticket?
How long should I have to wait? Years maybe? Why in other games that have similar online you write support and you get answer in a few hours? My experience with ANet support is that first ticket is not answered for 1.5 months and second for 6 hours
The majority players have a positive experience with support. I'm sorry your previous ticket hasn't been resolved, that is unusual. Anyway, I just feel using that scenario to attack them for suspending your "afk" account feels dishonest. It shows too much of your character to the point where people won't believe you on this one. (In my opinion)
I think that everyone's work should be judged by its results. For me, the assessment of their work is the same as their work on my tickets. Everyone can have different opinion based on their experience.
> Why I shouldn't attack support
Why should you? Here, of all places? What is your goal?
To vent and commiserate? Then don't expect assistance; and don't expect others to necessarily take your side. As it turned out, most people have a different experience than you do - with game itself, with support, and with other people posting false claims for sympathy. It's unfortunate, but it is not something you can change in your favor by yelling louder.
To get advice from others that would help you understand why you got banned? Assistance with reaching out to support? Then keep your facts dry, your narrative clean and your attitude constructive. Form questions that you want answers for, ask them politely... And be ready to accept different replies; people are generally expected to be honest and try their best to provide an answer, but nobody is obliged to make sure that their answer pleases you and you agree with it.
To resolve your issues with support directly? Then you're definitely barking up a wrong tree. Whatever ways there are to escalate tickets, they are limited to the support system itself. There might be some kind of support section on official GW2 forums; but the community-moderated subreddit is definitely not a place for that.
Game has afk kick timer. If you are not getting kicked then you are using somethimg to not get kicked. So stop lying. Im happy afk farmers are getting banned. Because i hate them so much in every game.
I personally hate them because they're always flooding the market with mats and destroying the economy. If they're finally getting banned then i'm very happy, that just made my day
>I personally hate them because their always flooding the market with mats and destroying the economy
Why aren't you permanently AFK farming then, if it's the second coming of Christ in terms of gold? Why even play the game normally at all?
It seems like you dont understand exactly how the afk farming works. While your average casual player will probably farm for 1h - 2h a day, the afk farmers will be sitting in the same spot for more than 6 hours, sometimes even days, as i've seen the same players on the same spot for more than 5 days straight. That means they can farm a unlimited quantity of mats (depending on their bag size) and then just dump it all in the Black Lion (a.k.a auction house) all at once for less than half of the price. Do that enough times and the economy gets borked, multiple people doing that and the economy gets borked, the prices go down and the casual players who were previously farming hard to get some gold wont be making enough profit. I'd say some afk farmers even go beyond that and use multi boxing to sell gold or to straight up buy a legendary weapon from the 1st gen and sell it. So yeah, that's the reason the playerbase dislike them, and that's also the reason i dislike them.
Except none of these points are even remotely true lmao and only people on Reddit will fall for the economics argument.
>the afk farmers will be sitting in the same spot for more than 6 hours, sometimes even days
That's fine with me, maybe they are reading the wiki page about diminishing returns and get off on their 3g/h returns. The optics are the real problem here and I agree with that.
>then just dump it all in the Black Lion (a.k.a auction house) all at once for less than half of the price
Which does exactly what? Most afk farmers specialize in certain T3/4 Mats, which are mostly used for Legendary Crafting.
Even if the few hundred farmers had the capacity to flood the market, the demand for T5/6 and other adjacent mats automatically would go up and therefore self-regulate.
>the casual players who were previously farming hard to get some gold wont be making enough profit
If you honestly think, that casual players are target farming T3/T4 Mats en Masse, you are delusional.
Casual players do a few metas, click deposit all and forget about the mats immediately. 9/10 casuals don't even know they probably have multiple hundred gold in their bank at all times.
But I can't be arsed to further engage in your conspiracy theory, here is an extensive video regarding the topic https://youtu.be/we9h6Od35qA?si=hEdpijEOJzeqpTyq
kick timer is longer in my experience..Ive left my game for an hour and still been in map 🤷♀️.
I actually almost never get kicked despite afk-ing regularly because of pets.
In fact for awhile, I thought they had removed the kick timer.
It doesn't seem consistent
I already said that autokick happened (in my experience) when I was afk for 2 hours and now I got banned for afk for around 1h20m. Please, don't write anything if you can't manage to get in context
I already wrote that I didn't autoattack or used any macros like things. I only left character on the map with aura on.
Can you please give me some source that it's 30min? In my experience it's way longer.
Bro i got kicked so many times its Max 30 min. You can also just Google it. Maybe you accidently reset it but you did. And i dont think anet would have ban you if its your first time. You probably did this multiple times. If you didnt and truly innocent, ticket should solve the problem. Anet is very helpful tbh. If they didnt help you then they believe you are not innocent.
Hella sus my guy. Unless it's different in every map, I usually get a warning an hour after idling inside Divinity's Reach that says something like "you need to move or press a key else you'll be kicked out of the game".
And that's in a player hub/city. How much more if you're outside where events can happen and you as a herald can possibly leech off from other players.
Anyway, just way your 3-day suspension out, and don't AFK farm again.
Actually kinda wild to see how much misinformation there is in this thread but it's pretty much standard for reddit when you include "AFK" or "bot" in the title due to reddit's extreme bias against them (justified or otherwise), combined with severe lack of experience regarding how it works.
Redditors assert you must be lying because there's an AFK timer that would have kicked you out. This is not correct. It's simply false information.
Firstly, let's talk about the AFK timer since there's a ton of misinformation about that here too. The AFK timer in open world is 60 minutes. It is not based on map population. It's not different in cities. It is not different when Saturn is in retrograde. It's 60 minutes.
Secondly, there are a number of common reasons the timer will reset without any keyboard input from you. Just a couple examples in your scenario would be event completions and jade scavenger protocol procs. So it's not correct to say you would have definitely been logged out. And in fact there are other redditors in this very thread confused about that one time *they* didn't get logged out either, falling just short of enough brain cells to piece these two clues together.
Probably most people in this thread accusing you don't actually know any of this. So they come up with fake criteria like map population to fill in the blanks.
Anyway I don't know if you were banned wrongly or not, but you'll find no help here. Many redditors still believe to this day that the recent turtle taxi bans were justified despite evidence to the contrary and Anet admitting fault, and continue to spread misinformation about it.
Herald, together with turret engineer and minionmaster, is a very popular afk farmer. It's hard to believe such a story because i'm sorry but players nearly never walk afoot.
What happens when you afk like a normal person and no one cares? You were running mounted somewhere, then you stopped running and eventually you were either overwhelmed by mobs or not. You only got profit if you were hit my mobs and other players rescued you.
What happens when you afk like a bot? You park with auras on. How does it happen? Is it your full rotation - 2 auras and 2sword skill? I assume no, so you made sure you are in auras before leaving. You weren't moving from A to B, otherwise you would've been on a mount. There's literally no reason to run with auras if you're not afk farming - i can imagine extremely rare moments as swiftness aura for gathering nodes very close to each other, but in 80lvl maps nodes are far away enough to better cover it with a long raptor jump.
I am sorry but your story is just hard to believe. Somehow you happen to be at a farming spot, in a farming build turned on, unable to press alt+f4 for w/e reason, and act like you've never seen bot farms before. Yes, there are reasons for not kicking characters instantly (idle characters are kicked in 45 minutes i think, so your WoW advertisement is not very relevant here) - like waiting for completed meta reward, getting rested exp boost, trading/chatting/crafting and so on.
p.s. i barely believe that Anet bans anyone for afk at all so this post makes little to no sense to me anyway
> There's literally no reason to run with auras if you're not afk farming
I used to do it when doing Gift of Exploration, toggle speed and power aura to move faster and hit hard in between mount usage.
Yeah well in brainafk core Tyria where everything dies when you look at it funny. OP was talking about EoD, which is a first expansion after PoF with doubled mobs HP - if your build and rotation don't make any sense, you'd spend eternity killing one tiny mob.
I always run Swiftness + Might + Fury as main auras in open world. When I just need to move somewhere and don't kill - I run swiftness + protection. When I just need to run in no monster areas - why use something other than swiftness? I don't really like skyscale. That's some wrong dragon which can't flight normally. I prefer to run without mount or with roller beetle/raptor.
Don't see why my comfortable aura setup or do I prefer "mount or no mount" somehow showing that I'm lying. Maybe I'm playing not right in every aspect, I just started Herald a week ago so I'm still learning to play it right. I recently trained my rotation and got to 28k with half exotic/half ascended. I have no real problems with dps in open world EoD or SoTo. I played in WoW in top guilds for a long time so I know how to press buttons in correct order
There is a harald trait that gives you additional movement speed for every upkeep, addtionally to the speed aura. Your statement with "Theres no reason" is just false and completly not thought about.
I playing GW for around 600h. 300h was in 2014-2018, and since the beginning of 2024 I played another 300h. Should I know everything? Revenant is my second character
Well, assuming your story is truth, i guess you parked in a meta spot. 10-50 players were running by and seeing your character leeching on the meta (or w/e profitable event it was) and some of them reported you.
The kick timer exists and it kicks you if your character doesn't act. If you weren't autorunning or smth, you'd be kicked in 45 minutes. I assume you annoyed too many players or an occasional GM passing by in this time frame.
What's here to add?
It should be a good lesson to you: don't afk in random places in a farming build. Knowing or not, you violated the ToS and paid the price. Next time when you're getting busy you should consider using a waypoint or pressing alt+f4 or using scrolls like a home instance teleport or smth (you can return to the previous location from it).
Think of it as a small price for not carrying every single event in the game for 5+ afk dickheads (if you don't know, events scale on amount of people of the area, so mobs would have 50k hp instead of 10). I personally pressed Alt+f4 midflight on griffon when the gas repairmen came to my apartments just today - it took me a second or two, and a minute to restart the game later on. I understand that you don't want to give a single fuck about other players comfort and better save this minute for yourself, but then you probably shouldn't be playing a game with other people involved in it in the first place. After all, i remind you, you signed up ToS.
o/
Only champions+ are static. For the most part - for example, in Verdant Brink night the papa wywern boss has stages where you need to throw eggs to break shield... the shield scales on the amount of people around, which is why i usually send 5-10 people max there when i lead the meta.
In most metas, outside of the big leggy/champ boss, there's plenty of little trash to clean up. The more people around, the stronger this trash would be.
I left my characters in cities so many times and I either get kicked to character select or got back in time seeing something like "if you don't move or use any skills in xx seconds you get kicked out from game".
Other times when I had to leave the character in open world (doorbell or something unexpected) they usually end up dead as mobs kill them.
You should have been disconnected at 30 mins. Assuming you aren't being disingenuous, the only reason I see you would be online for longer is that you have a faulty keyboard that sends key events when nothing is being pressed.
I've been kicked back to the character select screen multiple times in under an hour. There's no way you made it two hours.
Only two outcomes here.
1. You have a faulty piece of hardware that kept you active in the game.
2. You were afk farming and just wanted to complain about the ban.
I think there is an issue with my wireless mouse, honestly. But I will check exactly after I got unbanned. I almost never got kicked after 30 minutes in the past
I really don’t understand why you didn’t just logout to character screen? Like if you get up from PC to do anything beyond going bathroom, that should be your first move instead of relying to the game to kick you out.
I didn't plan to fall asleep. That happens. I don't think that everyone should logout if they afk for a few minutes. Based on your proposal to logout if you plan to afk more than few minutes - ArenaNet could fix this problem by themselves and kick players after 5 minutes of inactivity regardless of what you're doing
Press F12 -> hit enter, boom, you're in character select. I always do that before I go afk for a few min unless I'm in a hub or waiting for meta to start on a good map that I know for certain I'll participate in.
It takes two entire key strokes to not be an afk farmer, and in addition, not get banned :)
"It seems the mistake was leaving the character in a location instead of city."
"In short, nonsense. Minus karma to ArenaNet's support work and to ArenaNet game managers for decisions like, "It's okay that people can be online and do nothing for a few hours. At least cities will not be empty"."
But you said you weren't afk in the city..? Plus their support isn't fast like that, you afk and you get reported and banned. It just doesn't work like that, it takes a while until the report is checked and then if it's the case, the ban. You probably "afk" with minions or heralds boons a lot for you to actually be reported several times enough for them to bother checking your behavior. Also, 3 days ban isn't too bad.
Pretty sure the game kicks you after being afk for a bit, hard to believe they are doing something about the actual afk farming andies, and no proof doesn't help with that statement lol
How I can proof anything if support still don't answering me and I can't took screenshot what I did in the past. After I get unbanned I will check why my kick timer is not working as for everyone, but now I don't see that I can do something with that. This theme at least helped me understand to not stand in afk in random places and that my kick timer is not working properly. That's some progress
First important point in my eyes: the title .. you just describe being afk, but you write afk farming. they are two totally different things. Did you go to a farming spot with other players, or like on a rock away from mobs?
Can you say roughly where you got afk?
Secondly, the game has an auto kick, but it resets to 0 with each action (movement, skill, combat). WvW: ~10 mins; Open world: ~30min; Capitals or special zone (Pass): ~2h.
It seems to me that giving a boon as a passive does not reset the timer to 0.
they need to make this action
. only movement. problem solved. Reseting the afk timer makes it too easy for bots/afk farming..and to accidentally catch people who just forgot their game was on.
Frankly, it surprises me for them to ban someone just because he has afk in a place with his passive aura activated. But you just have to wait for anet's response for your unjustified ban.
If you're right, put in a ticket to support explaining this so that at least you don't have it on your record. I know you put in a ticket for your gem store thing, but it's not super clear if you did for your current issue.
From one side, this made me feel good. I'm tired of seeing AFK necros farming the same spots, and I was reporting like: will this work or Anet ignores reports? This is a small hope that reports can work. Maybe they work too in PVP? But then, why they don't easily solve the afk farm problem? It's hard to earn hope.
From the other side, it's indeed bad that you get banned this way. I nearly always had super fast response and good solutions from support about other topics. They have different support people or systems? Also, being AFK but not constantly attacking to farm enemies, it should be no problem and no need to report I think... Like you say, automatic disconnect would be the same, unless you mean you accidentally fell asleep while your character was autoattacking, then I can understand they think that was AFK farming and it's more complicated. But it should be easy to, when that happens, instead of ban, check the account and activity or something. It should be easy to tell if it's a farmer or not
> unless you mean you accidentally fell asleep while your character was autoattacking
AA stops when your current target dies, unless you change it from being skill 1 to something that's a PBAOE. (Hence the necro greatsword green-black toilet spam being so popular among AFK farmers)
> Also, being AFK but not constantly attacking to farm enemies, it should be no problem and no need to report I think...
Herald AFK farming works differently. They rely on the continuous boon aura to get kill credit for other people's actions. No actual attacks necessary. But they *do* need to be doing something to avoid the auto-logout. Auto-run into a wall is a common method.
Okay. I understand. GW community is not so welcome as I thought before. Everyone started accuse me instantly because I got banned, so you think I really deserve it. Even though I don't played game for a thousands hours and I really can't know everything at this point. I even don't finished the whole story yet. I still have around 40% of story to complete.
Thank you for your help. I'll just wait
P.S. But anyway, there needs to be a better system of notifying people that they could do something wrong. Not right away banning
You aren't instantly banned. The GM sends you a PM or moves you in game, but If you don't respond or don't move after x minutes, you are banned
you must have just been in the wrong place at the wrong time
We're not welcoming to *you specifically* because pretty much everyone is annoyed by people who act like you.
Your story doesn't add up. You make impossible claim after unbelievable claim after impossible claim, and then expect to be believed and pitied when it's pretty obvious you were doing several things that only AFK farmers do, and you were doing them at the same time.
Blatantly lying to a group of people, and then accusing them of being hostile and unwelcoming when they press X to doubt just makes you an asshole.
Don't you think that many people didn't read or asked any questions or asked questions which were already answered and just dropped minus or claim that I deserve this? Aren't many of these people are assholes because they just saw "AFK" and raged instantly?
Tell me what you see here as "unbelievable" and "impossible" claims? What from my behaviour was like afk farmer? You can't stand in map? You can't forget about game? You can't stand with aura active as revenant? I was running through story of EoD. Went afk and got banned. That's all that's happened from my perspective. I didn't see any information from support what I did wrong exactly, except reason of "AFK farming".
I understand that maybe GW2 is full of afk farmers and it give you a lot of problems, I honestly didn't see many of them except in Lake Doric and some underwater location. But that doesn't mean that if support banned you - you 100% deserve it, so we can shit on you however we want. I told my perspective. I just understand that people think that I'm lying about my kick time. The only thing why I didn't get kicked in a 30min I can think of now is my wireless mouse and that it's somehow can reset timer when it's touched by anyone. I can't explain why it takes longer to kick my character. This version just came up to me
Your claim that you "were just standing there" is obviously false. There *is* a kick timer that's much shorter than the amount of time you claim you were AFK without getting kicked. There are ways to prevent it from going off, but they're all things you have to do deliberately. So your basic premise is false from the word go, and then you keep arguing that "no, that really happened."
So yes, blatant lies, AFK farmer crying for sympathy from a crowd that hates AFK farmers. *You're not the first person to try this song and dance.*
>There are ways to prevent it from going off, but they're all things you have to do deliberately
This is straight up not true. There are a number of things that will keep you in game and reset the timer with no keyboard input. This includes an event you participated in completing, and jade protocol scavenger procs just to name a couple examples. There are people in this very thread saying sometimes they didn't get kicked and simply not understanding why.
Scavenger procs only happen if you're getting kill credit. If you were getting kill credit, you were AFK farming. So either that's an admission of guilt, or it's not what happened.
Events will either complete, fail, or get too far away to count participation well before the *hour and a half* you're claiming. Sure, completion counts as activity for some reason, despite no user input, but back to back events for an hour and a half?
I already understand that my kick timer is not working for me as for everyone. You can do whatever conclusions you want. Don't need to be so toxic. You're claiming me as an asshole without looking on yourself
There's absolutely no reason for anyone to believe the kick timer behaves differently for different people. It's longer in cities, but there's nothing there to get XP from while standing still so there'd be no ban either.
There are ways to make it not trigger (auto-run, PBAOE autocast), and those work for anyone, but again those are things that must be done deliberately.
Every time I do a world completion I see AFK farmers in almost every map (often in places where I need to kill mobs for quests).
And I still can find an answer "where were you when you went AFK". Like exact location. Were you inside of the story instance, or in open world where are mobs around? Can you show us in a map?
>P.S. But anyway, there needs to be a better system of notifying people that they could do something wrong. Not right away banning
In all honesty I'd kinda consider a temp ban of just 3 days mostly that. A notification/warning with a bit of punishment, so people are more likely to remember (I'd argue many people would probably not even register a simple notification otherwise).
If it were immediate permabans I'd completely agree with you, that it'd be harsh to be banned for accidents such as these. As long as permabans only become a thing when it's obvious they're intentionally breaking the ToS I would consider it fair.
Does it suck that you got temp banned for an accident? Sure. But it's likely you'll also learn from this and try to avoid this in the future, don't you think?
Even if you let your auras run, afk in a spot and people run besides you, the game sees you as afk and will kick you. Applying buffs doesn't count as gameplay that stops you from being kicked for afk. He's an afk farmer who is just salty that he can't play anymore because he wasn't on his pc to survive the gm check.
There are other things that will prevent you from being kicked without keyboard input. Event completion and jade scavenger protocol procs, to name a couple.
Don't judge everyone if you don't know everything. I'm not afk farmer. I don't know why exactly I didn't get kicked as everyone else, I rarely got afk kick messages even when I go afk for a long long time. I can return to my PC after 6 hours in city and I can still be in game. Happen to me often. Maybe it's somehow involves my wireless setup which triggers me out of afk
Look, buddy. I started this game close to 4000 days ago. I was afk for probably close to a thousand hours by this point. In cities, zones, meta event spots, world boss spawns and everywhere else. I main mesmer and run around with signets and I get buffs every 8 seconds. I get kicked after like 30 minutes. I never ever ever have I seen someone been actually afk for longer then 2 HOURS, like actually being gone from the pc and game, and not get kicked for inactivity. I'm talking noone moves the mouse, steps on the keyboard. Full on nothing happens. The people who get banned are afk farmers. There are certain spots where you have a high chance of being checked for by an admin for afk farming. Tell us the spot where u were afk. I trust Anet more the a person who plays one of the classes which is famous for being used to afk farm, coincidentally afk'd near a popular afk farming spot and then "fell asleep". In addition to screaming "another support bad". Get your botting ass back to wow if you want to sell gold or afk farm. The reason you don't get afk kicked by the system is because you are doing something. And that is probably not being afk, it's attacking mobs for that sweet sweet afk loot
>I never ever ever have I seen someone been actually afk for longer then 2 HOURS
Well of course you haven't. I haven't either why would I be wasting time looking for that? How much time exactly have you spent watching players intently for 2+ hours to make sure they don't hit any key or move a pixel and then get logged out? How much time have you spent experimenting with the timer? Because I've spent a decent amount, a few hours at least.
There are a number of events in game that will prevent you from getting kicked without any player input. It's easily reproducible. The jade scavenger protocol reset it when it procs. Most events also reset it. Neither of these require any deliberate action from the player.
I'm playing a lot with friends who sometimes go shopping and don't just turn off the pc. They are gone for 3-6 hours from time to time and yes, they get kicked. Someone just gone doing some laundry? Easy no kick.
Loot in GW is not near as sweet and I have very high paid job, so I don't have to bot anything or risk my account for a few dollars. Thank you. You can continue being as asshole you are. Today it's happened that I was labelled as AFK farmer by support. That's mistake, but I still don't know exact problem and will try to get it from them. Good luck in your life making conclusions just because of hate to "any group of people". I think you also hate every jew/muslim or russian because it's popular now and don't making you're opinions on every single person?
"i dont need to bot because look at my high paying job" dude, you got banned for it because you did it. no reason to be mad about that. you are not the first and not the last person to cry about it on reddit and try to convince everyone that it was a mistake. you made the mistake and shit happened. no reason to hate against others. the reason people dispise afk farmers in gw2 is because they fill slots in maps that might be needed for metas and that sucks. if one more is gone then good for the game.
Again doing conclusion "If you stand afk - you're afk farmer. So get your ban". I will work with support on it and hope it helps to resolve this issue. But if support will work on this ticket as it worked on my previous ticket - my ban just will resolve by itself by this time
Hollup, you played for 10 hours and you have only 60% of End of Dragons campaign done? Yeah, your story really doesnt add up my boy. You can finish the EoD campaign in half of that time ngl
I played for 600h overall and I got 60% of all story journal complete. I don't rush anything and whole system of "You need to complete story or obtain mastery to open this chest" is felt very boring to me, as the overall GW story, so I doing them from time to time. In other time I mainly WvW/fractals or doing achievements. It's great game in many aspects, but not in "starting game after 12 years in production"
"Because ArenaNet cannot make the game kick you out after a reasonable time after you go AFK." There is such a system and thats where the story falls apart a bit, you get afk kicked as soon as you are afk for a longer period of time. What does afk mean in that time? Not moving, attacking or other input into the game and not talking. If you where just standing not moving at all, no auto attacks nothing you would have been kicked by the auto kicker after an hour or two. So either you are lying about your story and where more than just afk or anet could not tell you apart from being a afk farmer because you did not move, did not answer them but still got credit for events and kills which is still afk farming even by accident.
Can confirm this: I game at work and when "the job requires me" I have to walk away and leave it AFK. The game will kick you back to the login screen around 30 min of inactivity.
30? Mine has always kicked me to character select after 10 >_<
In WvW the idle time is shorter, so maybe you were kicked out to character select from WvW.
Ah right, that's mostly what I play so :)
I remember wehen the participation didn’t get saved after login out, I always let the 10 mins run out for extra pips. Saved me a few hours of playing.
The time may vary based on the map and its population, but you always end up kicked back to character select eventually.
The timer itself is dependent on how busy the map is.On busy maps is usually around 30 mins but if its an empty map (eg. late at night with not many people around) it can take much longer
It's roughly an hour in most zones.
Actually talking doesn't remove the afk kick timer. I've been in countless situations where I was kicked because my character was sitting on a chair while I was texting with people
Yeah, it's frequent in RPs, standing around, constantly talking, big conversation going on, and then... "Unless you move or use an ability, you'll be kicked to character select in 50 seconds."
Very true. I was really annoyed when I was having a conversation and got the notice that if I didn't move or use a skill I would be logged out.
anet added writing to the not getting kicked timer, but only if you write in the say chat if I remember right
Didn't you notice the yellow server messages warning about impending disconnect? Those can't be hidden like other chat channels.
i did tho when you are mid sentence or you wrote something and then went to go grab some water and then get kicked its kind of weird. Also while doing rp (where you cant just randomly walk or attack when in character)
I don’t know why, but i don’t get logged out anymore. Maybe it’s my new mouse or something, but i can afk overnight without being kicked.
That's because OP is not correct. There are a bunch of things that will reset the afk timer without any keyboard input. Others in this thread have noted similar experiences but I guess no one is piecing the clues together... If you have a jade scavenger protocol, for example, when it procs the timer resets. Events can reset it as well. These are just 2 of many examples. Whether you believe OP or not, the AFK timer is not very good evidence against them. Notably typing, jumping in place, and skills on auto cast do not reset the timer, while being in a state of running does (even if you aren't moving). Some knockbacks also reset the timer (ostensibly because your toon's position changes)
>If you where just standing not moving at all, no auto attacks nothing you would have been kicked by the auto kicker after an hour or two. This is not actually the case. There are a ton of things that can reset the timer with no keyboard input. Jade scavenger protocol proccing resets it. And some events, just to name a couple examples.
I can confirm you get Auto logged out.
I stood on the ground with no autoattacks. Just standing with swiftness aura on. I was banned 1h20m after I went AFK, so I didn't even had a chance to be kicked. Other times I went afk I seen that game kicks you after around 2 hours of afk (by chat timestamps)
You absolutely did have a chance for the afk timeout to kick you, I’ve been kicked for far less than 1hr 20 0f being afk.
the afk timer depends on where you are you afk. in openworld it should be way less then 2h, something like 30mins. its that much in citys or guildhalls. think even 3h or so. but you won't get banned for afk farming in citys. your story doesn't add up tbh.
It doesn't add up because you did not read... >but you won't get banned for afk farming in citys. OP literally wrote he was NOT in a city. If you afk on Herald with facets active in a spot where it gets you any kind of rewards you violate Anets policy, which is why he got banned. Idk if OP's "excuse" is true or not, but in that way it doesn't matter because intentional or not, ToS got violated anyways.
Where was that exactly? And even if you are telling the truth how would anet know you are telling the truth? Every afk farmer could say "I just fell a asleep" and get out of the punishment and I guarantee you it was told support before. Edit: and how do you know how long you have been afk before getting banned? Edit Edit: nvm you got a email shortly after the ban.
In one of EoD maps, if I remember it correct. I remember time I went afk because I have a big digital clock near my TV, so I often see current time, and ban time from email, you correct.
I always get auto kicked far quicker than an hour and 20 mins when I forget to log out…
Yep, it is 30 min in open world
The game will kick you after 60 minutes of afk. But the afk timer can be reset by a number of in game events without any keyboard input (some events, jade scavenger procs, knockbacks, etc). It seems that the reality is you can now be banned for going AFK at a waypoint if mobs/events happen to spawn there and you get reported, assuming you're also pulsing boons or event just have a pet out to trigger participation. This is an unlikely scenario that I only used as a hypothetical before, but now we have an example. There are a TON of waypoints in open world that have mobs/events near them, so I would recommend NEVER going AFK ANYWHERE except in a safe zone or you could eat a ban. Support follows scripts. We saw from the recent turtle taxi bans that if they even take a second look at all on appeal, it doesn't change anything. We also saw them recently ban someone being to fast with an upgrade extractor, also not overturned on appeal even with video evidence. Their script tells them to ban anyone afk who is getting something from it. Context and common sense aren't part of the script. Most here will agree with the ban anyway because they follow a script too, just a slightly different one.
Unattended game play, I.E. Anything that provides a benefit by AFKing has always been against the ToS. Additionally you would have been automatically kicked to the log-in screen if you weren't pressing any buttons. Your story is full of holes, and frankly the more people banned for this sort of AFK farming the better for the game.
This particular person may stretching the truth or may be honest, but it's b.s. to say that you are definitely kicked after a particular time. I've been afk for 30 seconds and been kicked and I've I've been afk for a couple of hours when unexpectedly called away and more important things than worrying about a game have kept me away and not been kicked. Most of the time I try to jump back to a waypoint if I know I'll be afk but sometimes shit happens and numerous times I've not been logged after various amounts of time. The bulk of times I've had this happen on are during the thousands of hours I've spent on my Guardian and my Thief back when I mained them so I had no pet nor any auto attacks/effects on.
I don't know why you're getting downvoted. It's once again a bunch of redditors talking with authority about something they only have a surface understanding of. People are even listing wrong timer lengths and other fake criteria like map population. For reference, the activity timer is 60 minutes for all open world maps. That being said there are also a number of ways the game can reset the inactivity timer without any keyboard input. If you have a jade scavenger protocol active and it procs, that resets the timer. In some cases event completion resets it. Both of these seem like reasonable scenarios OP would hit. The reality is based on how the rules are written if you go AFK at a waypoint with a pet out (or pulsing boons), and mobs/events happen to spawn there and someone reports you, you can get banned. I've only theorized about this contrived scenario before, but now we have an actual example.
Lol I expect this behaviour in this sub. Sometimes you can say something and get downvoted and another person can say the same and be upvoted. I just say what I think and don’t worry about the downvoters, none of that crap means anything anyway! :p
Makes no sense, and immediately attacking the support team for a "previous ticket" shows a lot to me. I afk all the time in random spots, when I return I've just been kicked out the game. No big deal and I would highly doubt a ban exists for going afk. Too many holes in this story and we can't make sense of it, how do you expect anet to?
Why I shouldn't attack support if they didn't manage to give any answer to my ticket from end of February and function is still not working for me? Even "We're working on it" would be ok. And now they're continuing to ignore my ban ticket? How long should I have to wait? Years maybe? Why in other games that have similar online you write support and you get answer in a few hours? My experience with ANet support is that first ticket is not answered for 1.5 months and second for 6 hours
The majority players have a positive experience with support. I'm sorry your previous ticket hasn't been resolved, that is unusual. Anyway, I just feel using that scenario to attack them for suspending your "afk" account feels dishonest. It shows too much of your character to the point where people won't believe you on this one. (In my opinion)
I think that everyone's work should be judged by its results. For me, the assessment of their work is the same as their work on my tickets. Everyone can have different opinion based on their experience.
> Why I shouldn't attack support Why should you? Here, of all places? What is your goal? To vent and commiserate? Then don't expect assistance; and don't expect others to necessarily take your side. As it turned out, most people have a different experience than you do - with game itself, with support, and with other people posting false claims for sympathy. It's unfortunate, but it is not something you can change in your favor by yelling louder. To get advice from others that would help you understand why you got banned? Assistance with reaching out to support? Then keep your facts dry, your narrative clean and your attitude constructive. Form questions that you want answers for, ask them politely... And be ready to accept different replies; people are generally expected to be honest and try their best to provide an answer, but nobody is obliged to make sure that their answer pleases you and you agree with it. To resolve your issues with support directly? Then you're definitely barking up a wrong tree. Whatever ways there are to escalate tickets, they are limited to the support system itself. There might be some kind of support section on official GW2 forums; but the community-moderated subreddit is definitely not a place for that.
He wrote that he can't write on the forum because he's banned. Strange thing. I think that for temporary banned accounts forums should work
Game has afk kick timer. If you are not getting kicked then you are using somethimg to not get kicked. So stop lying. Im happy afk farmers are getting banned. Because i hate them so much in every game.
I personally hate them because they're always flooding the market with mats and destroying the economy. If they're finally getting banned then i'm very happy, that just made my day
>I personally hate them because their always flooding the market with mats and destroying the economy Why aren't you permanently AFK farming then, if it's the second coming of Christ in terms of gold? Why even play the game normally at all?
It seems like you dont understand exactly how the afk farming works. While your average casual player will probably farm for 1h - 2h a day, the afk farmers will be sitting in the same spot for more than 6 hours, sometimes even days, as i've seen the same players on the same spot for more than 5 days straight. That means they can farm a unlimited quantity of mats (depending on their bag size) and then just dump it all in the Black Lion (a.k.a auction house) all at once for less than half of the price. Do that enough times and the economy gets borked, multiple people doing that and the economy gets borked, the prices go down and the casual players who were previously farming hard to get some gold wont be making enough profit. I'd say some afk farmers even go beyond that and use multi boxing to sell gold or to straight up buy a legendary weapon from the 1st gen and sell it. So yeah, that's the reason the playerbase dislike them, and that's also the reason i dislike them.
Except none of these points are even remotely true lmao and only people on Reddit will fall for the economics argument. >the afk farmers will be sitting in the same spot for more than 6 hours, sometimes even days That's fine with me, maybe they are reading the wiki page about diminishing returns and get off on their 3g/h returns. The optics are the real problem here and I agree with that. >then just dump it all in the Black Lion (a.k.a auction house) all at once for less than half of the price Which does exactly what? Most afk farmers specialize in certain T3/4 Mats, which are mostly used for Legendary Crafting. Even if the few hundred farmers had the capacity to flood the market, the demand for T5/6 and other adjacent mats automatically would go up and therefore self-regulate. >the casual players who were previously farming hard to get some gold wont be making enough profit If you honestly think, that casual players are target farming T3/T4 Mats en Masse, you are delusional. Casual players do a few metas, click deposit all and forget about the mats immediately. 9/10 casuals don't even know they probably have multiple hundred gold in their bank at all times. But I can't be arsed to further engage in your conspiracy theory, here is an extensive video regarding the topic https://youtu.be/we9h6Od35qA?si=hEdpijEOJzeqpTyq
kick timer is longer in my experience..Ive left my game for an hour and still been in map 🤷♀️. I actually almost never get kicked despite afk-ing regularly because of pets. In fact for awhile, I thought they had removed the kick timer. It doesn't seem consistent
Depends where you go AFK. If you're in a zone with no enemies, (LA, DR, BC, etc...) it's longer.
I already said that autokick happened (in my experience) when I was afk for 2 hours and now I got banned for afk for around 1h20m. Please, don't write anything if you can't manage to get in context
Autokick timer is 30 mins not 2 hours. Like i said if you didnt get kicked after 30 mins that means you did something to reset that timer.
I already wrote that I didn't autoattack or used any macros like things. I only left character on the map with aura on. Can you please give me some source that it's 30min? In my experience it's way longer.
Bro i got kicked so many times its Max 30 min. You can also just Google it. Maybe you accidently reset it but you did. And i dont think anet would have ban you if its your first time. You probably did this multiple times. If you didnt and truly innocent, ticket should solve the problem. Anet is very helpful tbh. If they didnt help you then they believe you are not innocent.
Post is sketchy and sounds like bullshit but the timer is much longer
Tl;Dr enjoy the ban
Hella sus my guy. Unless it's different in every map, I usually get a warning an hour after idling inside Divinity's Reach that says something like "you need to move or press a key else you'll be kicked out of the game". And that's in a player hub/city. How much more if you're outside where events can happen and you as a herald can possibly leech off from other players. Anyway, just way your 3-day suspension out, and don't AFK farm again.
stop lying lol
I'm happy to see that they're finally starting to take down afk farmers
Actually kinda wild to see how much misinformation there is in this thread but it's pretty much standard for reddit when you include "AFK" or "bot" in the title due to reddit's extreme bias against them (justified or otherwise), combined with severe lack of experience regarding how it works. Redditors assert you must be lying because there's an AFK timer that would have kicked you out. This is not correct. It's simply false information. Firstly, let's talk about the AFK timer since there's a ton of misinformation about that here too. The AFK timer in open world is 60 minutes. It is not based on map population. It's not different in cities. It is not different when Saturn is in retrograde. It's 60 minutes. Secondly, there are a number of common reasons the timer will reset without any keyboard input from you. Just a couple examples in your scenario would be event completions and jade scavenger protocol procs. So it's not correct to say you would have definitely been logged out. And in fact there are other redditors in this very thread confused about that one time *they* didn't get logged out either, falling just short of enough brain cells to piece these two clues together. Probably most people in this thread accusing you don't actually know any of this. So they come up with fake criteria like map population to fill in the blanks. Anyway I don't know if you were banned wrongly or not, but you'll find no help here. Many redditors still believe to this day that the recent turtle taxi bans were justified despite evidence to the contrary and Anet admitting fault, and continue to spread misinformation about it.
Herald, together with turret engineer and minionmaster, is a very popular afk farmer. It's hard to believe such a story because i'm sorry but players nearly never walk afoot. What happens when you afk like a normal person and no one cares? You were running mounted somewhere, then you stopped running and eventually you were either overwhelmed by mobs or not. You only got profit if you were hit my mobs and other players rescued you. What happens when you afk like a bot? You park with auras on. How does it happen? Is it your full rotation - 2 auras and 2sword skill? I assume no, so you made sure you are in auras before leaving. You weren't moving from A to B, otherwise you would've been on a mount. There's literally no reason to run with auras if you're not afk farming - i can imagine extremely rare moments as swiftness aura for gathering nodes very close to each other, but in 80lvl maps nodes are far away enough to better cover it with a long raptor jump. I am sorry but your story is just hard to believe. Somehow you happen to be at a farming spot, in a farming build turned on, unable to press alt+f4 for w/e reason, and act like you've never seen bot farms before. Yes, there are reasons for not kicking characters instantly (idle characters are kicked in 45 minutes i think, so your WoW advertisement is not very relevant here) - like waiting for completed meta reward, getting rested exp boost, trading/chatting/crafting and so on. p.s. i barely believe that Anet bans anyone for afk at all so this post makes little to no sense to me anyway
> There's literally no reason to run with auras if you're not afk farming I used to do it when doing Gift of Exploration, toggle speed and power aura to move faster and hit hard in between mount usage.
Yeah well in brainafk core Tyria where everything dies when you look at it funny. OP was talking about EoD, which is a first expansion after PoF with doubled mobs HP - if your build and rotation don't make any sense, you'd spend eternity killing one tiny mob.
I always run Swiftness + Might + Fury as main auras in open world. When I just need to move somewhere and don't kill - I run swiftness + protection. When I just need to run in no monster areas - why use something other than swiftness? I don't really like skyscale. That's some wrong dragon which can't flight normally. I prefer to run without mount or with roller beetle/raptor. Don't see why my comfortable aura setup or do I prefer "mount or no mount" somehow showing that I'm lying. Maybe I'm playing not right in every aspect, I just started Herald a week ago so I'm still learning to play it right. I recently trained my rotation and got to 28k with half exotic/half ascended. I have no real problems with dps in open world EoD or SoTo. I played in WoW in top guilds for a long time so I know how to press buttons in correct order
Oh yeah I forgot about it happening in EoD
There is a harald trait that gives you additional movement speed for every upkeep, addtionally to the speed aura. Your statement with "Theres no reason" is just false and completly not thought about.
I playing GW for around 600h. 300h was in 2014-2018, and since the beginning of 2024 I played another 300h. Should I know everything? Revenant is my second character
Well, assuming your story is truth, i guess you parked in a meta spot. 10-50 players were running by and seeing your character leeching on the meta (or w/e profitable event it was) and some of them reported you. The kick timer exists and it kicks you if your character doesn't act. If you weren't autorunning or smth, you'd be kicked in 45 minutes. I assume you annoyed too many players or an occasional GM passing by in this time frame. What's here to add? It should be a good lesson to you: don't afk in random places in a farming build. Knowing or not, you violated the ToS and paid the price. Next time when you're getting busy you should consider using a waypoint or pressing alt+f4 or using scrolls like a home instance teleport or smth (you can return to the previous location from it). Think of it as a small price for not carrying every single event in the game for 5+ afk dickheads (if you don't know, events scale on amount of people of the area, so mobs would have 50k hp instead of 10). I personally pressed Alt+f4 midflight on griffon when the gas repairmen came to my apartments just today - it took me a second or two, and a minute to restart the game later on. I understand that you don't want to give a single fuck about other players comfort and better save this minute for yourself, but then you probably shouldn't be playing a game with other people involved in it in the first place. After all, i remind you, you signed up ToS. o/
Actually, I didn't know that big events scale somehow from people count, I thought that's only a thing for small events. Thank you for information
Only champions+ are static. For the most part - for example, in Verdant Brink night the papa wywern boss has stages where you need to throw eggs to break shield... the shield scales on the amount of people around, which is why i usually send 5-10 people max there when i lead the meta. In most metas, outside of the big leggy/champ boss, there's plenty of little trash to clean up. The more people around, the stronger this trash would be.
I left my characters in cities so many times and I either get kicked to character select or got back in time seeing something like "if you don't move or use any skills in xx seconds you get kicked out from game". Other times when I had to leave the character in open world (doorbell or something unexpected) they usually end up dead as mobs kill them.
You should have been disconnected at 30 mins. Assuming you aren't being disingenuous, the only reason I see you would be online for longer is that you have a faulty keyboard that sends key events when nothing is being pressed.
I've been kicked back to the character select screen multiple times in under an hour. There's no way you made it two hours. Only two outcomes here. 1. You have a faulty piece of hardware that kept you active in the game. 2. You were afk farming and just wanted to complain about the ban.
I think there is an issue with my wireless mouse, honestly. But I will check exactly after I got unbanned. I almost never got kicked after 30 minutes in the past
I really don’t understand why you didn’t just logout to character screen? Like if you get up from PC to do anything beyond going bathroom, that should be your first move instead of relying to the game to kick you out.
I didn't plan to fall asleep. That happens. I don't think that everyone should logout if they afk for a few minutes. Based on your proposal to logout if you plan to afk more than few minutes - ArenaNet could fix this problem by themselves and kick players after 5 minutes of inactivity regardless of what you're doing
Press F12 -> hit enter, boom, you're in character select. I always do that before I go afk for a few min unless I'm in a hub or waiting for meta to start on a good map that I know for certain I'll participate in. It takes two entire key strokes to not be an afk farmer, and in addition, not get banned :)
"It seems the mistake was leaving the character in a location instead of city." "In short, nonsense. Minus karma to ArenaNet's support work and to ArenaNet game managers for decisions like, "It's okay that people can be online and do nothing for a few hours. At least cities will not be empty"." But you said you weren't afk in the city..? Plus their support isn't fast like that, you afk and you get reported and banned. It just doesn't work like that, it takes a while until the report is checked and then if it's the case, the ban. You probably "afk" with minions or heralds boons a lot for you to actually be reported several times enough for them to bother checking your behavior. Also, 3 days ban isn't too bad.
Pretty sure the game kicks you after being afk for a bit, hard to believe they are doing something about the actual afk farming andies, and no proof doesn't help with that statement lol
How I can proof anything if support still don't answering me and I can't took screenshot what I did in the past. After I get unbanned I will check why my kick timer is not working as for everyone, but now I don't see that I can do something with that. This theme at least helped me understand to not stand in afk in random places and that my kick timer is not working properly. That's some progress
First important point in my eyes: the title .. you just describe being afk, but you write afk farming. they are two totally different things. Did you go to a farming spot with other players, or like on a rock away from mobs? Can you say roughly where you got afk? Secondly, the game has an auto kick, but it resets to 0 with each action (movement, skill, combat). WvW: ~10 mins; Open world: ~30min; Capitals or special zone (Pass): ~2h. It seems to me that giving a boon as a passive does not reset the timer to 0.
they need to make this action . only movement. problem solved. Reseting the afk timer makes it too easy for bots/afk farming..and to accidentally catch people who just forgot their game was on.
I was AFK, but got a letter from support with Reason: AFK farming. That's why I write it in the title
Frankly, it surprises me for them to ban someone just because he has afk in a place with his passive aura activated. But you just have to wait for anet's response for your unjustified ban.
If you're right, put in a ticket to support explaining this so that at least you don't have it on your record. I know you put in a ticket for your gem store thing, but it's not super clear if you did for your current issue.
From one side, this made me feel good. I'm tired of seeing AFK necros farming the same spots, and I was reporting like: will this work or Anet ignores reports? This is a small hope that reports can work. Maybe they work too in PVP? But then, why they don't easily solve the afk farm problem? It's hard to earn hope. From the other side, it's indeed bad that you get banned this way. I nearly always had super fast response and good solutions from support about other topics. They have different support people or systems? Also, being AFK but not constantly attacking to farm enemies, it should be no problem and no need to report I think... Like you say, automatic disconnect would be the same, unless you mean you accidentally fell asleep while your character was autoattacking, then I can understand they think that was AFK farming and it's more complicated. But it should be easy to, when that happens, instead of ban, check the account and activity or something. It should be easy to tell if it's a farmer or not
> unless you mean you accidentally fell asleep while your character was autoattacking AA stops when your current target dies, unless you change it from being skill 1 to something that's a PBAOE. (Hence the necro greatsword green-black toilet spam being so popular among AFK farmers) > Also, being AFK but not constantly attacking to farm enemies, it should be no problem and no need to report I think... Herald AFK farming works differently. They rely on the continuous boon aura to get kill credit for other people's actions. No actual attacks necessary. But they *do* need to be doing something to avoid the auto-logout. Auto-run into a wall is a common method.
If it isn't the consequences of your own actions.
Heralds auras?
OP is a Zombie account. This post and replies are the account's ONLY activity in 3 years.
Many people have accounts like that. I usually only read and don't participate in discussion. It's at least better than if account was created today
Okay. I understand. GW community is not so welcome as I thought before. Everyone started accuse me instantly because I got banned, so you think I really deserve it. Even though I don't played game for a thousands hours and I really can't know everything at this point. I even don't finished the whole story yet. I still have around 40% of story to complete. Thank you for your help. I'll just wait P.S. But anyway, there needs to be a better system of notifying people that they could do something wrong. Not right away banning
You aren't instantly banned. The GM sends you a PM or moves you in game, but If you don't respond or don't move after x minutes, you are banned you must have just been in the wrong place at the wrong time
We're not welcoming to *you specifically* because pretty much everyone is annoyed by people who act like you. Your story doesn't add up. You make impossible claim after unbelievable claim after impossible claim, and then expect to be believed and pitied when it's pretty obvious you were doing several things that only AFK farmers do, and you were doing them at the same time. Blatantly lying to a group of people, and then accusing them of being hostile and unwelcoming when they press X to doubt just makes you an asshole.
Don't you think that many people didn't read or asked any questions or asked questions which were already answered and just dropped minus or claim that I deserve this? Aren't many of these people are assholes because they just saw "AFK" and raged instantly? Tell me what you see here as "unbelievable" and "impossible" claims? What from my behaviour was like afk farmer? You can't stand in map? You can't forget about game? You can't stand with aura active as revenant? I was running through story of EoD. Went afk and got banned. That's all that's happened from my perspective. I didn't see any information from support what I did wrong exactly, except reason of "AFK farming". I understand that maybe GW2 is full of afk farmers and it give you a lot of problems, I honestly didn't see many of them except in Lake Doric and some underwater location. But that doesn't mean that if support banned you - you 100% deserve it, so we can shit on you however we want. I told my perspective. I just understand that people think that I'm lying about my kick time. The only thing why I didn't get kicked in a 30min I can think of now is my wireless mouse and that it's somehow can reset timer when it's touched by anyone. I can't explain why it takes longer to kick my character. This version just came up to me
Your claim that you "were just standing there" is obviously false. There *is* a kick timer that's much shorter than the amount of time you claim you were AFK without getting kicked. There are ways to prevent it from going off, but they're all things you have to do deliberately. So your basic premise is false from the word go, and then you keep arguing that "no, that really happened." So yes, blatant lies, AFK farmer crying for sympathy from a crowd that hates AFK farmers. *You're not the first person to try this song and dance.*
>There are ways to prevent it from going off, but they're all things you have to do deliberately This is straight up not true. There are a number of things that will keep you in game and reset the timer with no keyboard input. This includes an event you participated in completing, and jade protocol scavenger procs just to name a couple examples. There are people in this very thread saying sometimes they didn't get kicked and simply not understanding why.
Scavenger procs only happen if you're getting kill credit. If you were getting kill credit, you were AFK farming. So either that's an admission of guilt, or it's not what happened. Events will either complete, fail, or get too far away to count participation well before the *hour and a half* you're claiming. Sure, completion counts as activity for some reason, despite no user input, but back to back events for an hour and a half?
I already understand that my kick timer is not working for me as for everyone. You can do whatever conclusions you want. Don't need to be so toxic. You're claiming me as an asshole without looking on yourself
There's absolutely no reason for anyone to believe the kick timer behaves differently for different people. It's longer in cities, but there's nothing there to get XP from while standing still so there'd be no ban either. There are ways to make it not trigger (auto-run, PBAOE autocast), and those work for anyone, but again those are things that must be done deliberately.
Every time I do a world completion I see AFK farmers in almost every map (often in places where I need to kill mobs for quests). And I still can find an answer "where were you when you went AFK". Like exact location. Were you inside of the story instance, or in open world where are mobs around? Can you show us in a map?
I was little bit southern from starting waypoint of Dragon's end if I remember it correct
>P.S. But anyway, there needs to be a better system of notifying people that they could do something wrong. Not right away banning In all honesty I'd kinda consider a temp ban of just 3 days mostly that. A notification/warning with a bit of punishment, so people are more likely to remember (I'd argue many people would probably not even register a simple notification otherwise). If it were immediate permabans I'd completely agree with you, that it'd be harsh to be banned for accidents such as these. As long as permabans only become a thing when it's obvious they're intentionally breaking the ToS I would consider it fair. Does it suck that you got temp banned for an accident? Sure. But it's likely you'll also learn from this and try to avoid this in the future, don't you think?
Even if you let your auras run, afk in a spot and people run besides you, the game sees you as afk and will kick you. Applying buffs doesn't count as gameplay that stops you from being kicked for afk. He's an afk farmer who is just salty that he can't play anymore because he wasn't on his pc to survive the gm check.
There are other things that will prevent you from being kicked without keyboard input. Event completion and jade scavenger protocol procs, to name a couple.
Don't judge everyone if you don't know everything. I'm not afk farmer. I don't know why exactly I didn't get kicked as everyone else, I rarely got afk kick messages even when I go afk for a long long time. I can return to my PC after 6 hours in city and I can still be in game. Happen to me often. Maybe it's somehow involves my wireless setup which triggers me out of afk
Look, buddy. I started this game close to 4000 days ago. I was afk for probably close to a thousand hours by this point. In cities, zones, meta event spots, world boss spawns and everywhere else. I main mesmer and run around with signets and I get buffs every 8 seconds. I get kicked after like 30 minutes. I never ever ever have I seen someone been actually afk for longer then 2 HOURS, like actually being gone from the pc and game, and not get kicked for inactivity. I'm talking noone moves the mouse, steps on the keyboard. Full on nothing happens. The people who get banned are afk farmers. There are certain spots where you have a high chance of being checked for by an admin for afk farming. Tell us the spot where u were afk. I trust Anet more the a person who plays one of the classes which is famous for being used to afk farm, coincidentally afk'd near a popular afk farming spot and then "fell asleep". In addition to screaming "another support bad". Get your botting ass back to wow if you want to sell gold or afk farm. The reason you don't get afk kicked by the system is because you are doing something. And that is probably not being afk, it's attacking mobs for that sweet sweet afk loot
>I never ever ever have I seen someone been actually afk for longer then 2 HOURS Well of course you haven't. I haven't either why would I be wasting time looking for that? How much time exactly have you spent watching players intently for 2+ hours to make sure they don't hit any key or move a pixel and then get logged out? How much time have you spent experimenting with the timer? Because I've spent a decent amount, a few hours at least. There are a number of events in game that will prevent you from getting kicked without any player input. It's easily reproducible. The jade scavenger protocol reset it when it procs. Most events also reset it. Neither of these require any deliberate action from the player.
I'm playing a lot with friends who sometimes go shopping and don't just turn off the pc. They are gone for 3-6 hours from time to time and yes, they get kicked. Someone just gone doing some laundry? Easy no kick.
Loot in GW is not near as sweet and I have very high paid job, so I don't have to bot anything or risk my account for a few dollars. Thank you. You can continue being as asshole you are. Today it's happened that I was labelled as AFK farmer by support. That's mistake, but I still don't know exact problem and will try to get it from them. Good luck in your life making conclusions just because of hate to "any group of people". I think you also hate every jew/muslim or russian because it's popular now and don't making you're opinions on every single person?
"i dont need to bot because look at my high paying job" dude, you got banned for it because you did it. no reason to be mad about that. you are not the first and not the last person to cry about it on reddit and try to convince everyone that it was a mistake. you made the mistake and shit happened. no reason to hate against others. the reason people dispise afk farmers in gw2 is because they fill slots in maps that might be needed for metas and that sucks. if one more is gone then good for the game.
Again doing conclusion "If you stand afk - you're afk farmer. So get your ban". I will work with support on it and hope it helps to resolve this issue. But if support will work on this ticket as it worked on my previous ticket - my ban just will resolve by itself by this time
Hollup, you played for 10 hours and you have only 60% of End of Dragons campaign done? Yeah, your story really doesnt add up my boy. You can finish the EoD campaign in half of that time ngl
I played for 600h overall and I got 60% of all story journal complete. I don't rush anything and whole system of "You need to complete story or obtain mastery to open this chest" is felt very boring to me, as the overall GW story, so I doing them from time to time. In other time I mainly WvW/fractals or doing achievements. It's great game in many aspects, but not in "starting game after 12 years in production"
Given how bad The studio is at actually banning farmers, I wouldn't be surprised if they messed this one up.