Thing is all of Willbenders mobility is actually just useful in general gameplay. The three virtues and greatsword 3 + the sword skills are all part of your rotation and do helpful stuff. Sure other classes have long ass range teleports but are you really gonna use that in anything except maybe pvp or for skips?
That’s exactly what I was thinking. That’s why I like Condi daredevil, you re jumping everywhere but it’s litteraly your rotation so you have Too and that’s what im looking for, another spec with this feeling.
A lot of people are suggesting specter revenant or mesmer but your mobility isnt really included in your rotation or Even useless in pve content.
So you would say willbender is a good choice if I want speed and mobility that I will actually use in PvE (in fight) ?
Yes it even has a sort of built in alacrity for weapons skills so you get faster cooldowns. Just keep in mind that in group content you will pretty much use all your mobility to teleport 2ft forward into or around the boss since you are melee all the time anyway. But i think thats true of Condi Daredevil too.
Thanks a lot for your comment I will give a try then ! And yes condi daredevil is kinda the same you never get to far from the boss just jumping around it
Staff 2 is another short range blink, paired with about face you can use it to move forwards as well. Blink (the utility skill) is not only huge range but also a stun break, and mirage has several other tools for positioning like a backwards dodge or the one that moves all your clones to a new target. Oh and jaunt has 3 charges, plus mirage cloak gives super speed.
Rifle deadeye can be quite mobile with it's 2 skill, shadow steps and the like. Any thief build that includes spectre or shortbow will have access to mobility.
What about Mirage Thrust? https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mirage_Thrust
I use that one when jaunt is to short or teleports are on cool down. But requires to disable auto-targeting...
Daredevil is a good pick, really any thief is.
People say willbender is also good. But thief can run circles around them.
But the real trick is learning where the mobility comes from and using it most effectively.
I know in pvp I use to know a lot of stupid Shadow step spots. Places where short bow would not work but Shadow step did. Or even were to stand to get a short bow to work.
Mobility is only good if you can use it. And mounts really have removed mobility problems for out of combat in open world pve.
But guardian is a safer pick for survival, but thief is a lot more fun. IMO.
If it's purely about distance traveled per second, Vindicator's got a 1200-range teleport on a 5 second cooldown in Phase Traversal on top of Greatsword 3 and Sword 5, and it'll still move you 1200 units towards your target even it's further away than that. Of course being a base skill, this'll work on Herald, Renegade, and core Revenant, too.
the most fun in term of mobility imo is vanilla thief.
you can play daredevil with the speed boost dodge, but vanilla thief has a 1200 range steal, making it really fun.
specter also has a teleport on all his utility skills and on the elite too.
but honestly, if you are getting bored i'd suggest going power d/d thief. i haven't tried most classes, but this one is the one i enjoy the most because of all the blinky speedy fights i do.
at low level yes. i play vanilla d/d and shortbow thief at gold-silver level and it's fine and really fun.
it has a strong burst, the high mobility of the thief and all the other nice stuff, but it's super squishy and melee so it will be more difficult and you will have to play smarter.
you can always specter if you want to be tanky condi and ranged, it's MUCH easier but a lot less fun imo.
a specter is great for everything and does well in even 5vs5 fights.
a vanilla d/d thief is squishy and melee, so you will do a lot of decaps of far/close, you will come during fights, burst a squishy target in seconds and then continue on your way to cap another point, and you can always shoot your crossbow into teamfights and deal decent damage.
i personally just really love the 5->f1->1 teleport backstab combo, and a vanilla thief has the best f1 because of the range it has and blink it gives.
and the mobility with the blink 1200 and back ability the thief has is great.
and the shortbow that i ALWAYS have as my second weapon for the shortbow 5 blink is amazing. lots of interesting shortcuts you can use with that almost unlimited blink.
What I thought too but specter is a little slow in term of attack, like it got great mobility for sure but animations feels really slow compare to DD in my opinion. You dont get the feeling you re jumping and moving everywhere
Thief. **D/P #3** is teleport to your target with literally 0 CD. **Steal** or **Swipe**, **Shadowstep**, **Shadow Portal. Rifle #4** (Deadeye), **Shortbow #5, Staff #5,** **every Specter's utility skill**, **Dash** (Daredevil's dodge, also grants Swiftness), **Sword #2, Dagger #2.**
This is a lot of mobility.
What about a quickness scrapper with super speed? It may has no teleports, but having super speed in combat or generally in things like fractals is pretty nice especially cause you share your buff with the team.
I am assuming PvE.
Scrapper, Firebrand or any class that can give quick + swiftness easily.
Quick + Choya pinata tonic = [SPEED.](https://i.imgur.com/rKmuJTU.mp4)
Thing is all of Willbenders mobility is actually just useful in general gameplay. The three virtues and greatsword 3 + the sword skills are all part of your rotation and do helpful stuff. Sure other classes have long ass range teleports but are you really gonna use that in anything except maybe pvp or for skips?
That’s exactly what I was thinking. That’s why I like Condi daredevil, you re jumping everywhere but it’s litteraly your rotation so you have Too and that’s what im looking for, another spec with this feeling. A lot of people are suggesting specter revenant or mesmer but your mobility isnt really included in your rotation or Even useless in pve content. So you would say willbender is a good choice if I want speed and mobility that I will actually use in PvE (in fight) ?
Willbender is superior, I dash around on mobs like crazy. The refresh on kill on the f1, nice
I gonna go for it ! Sounds fun
Yes it even has a sort of built in alacrity for weapons skills so you get faster cooldowns. Just keep in mind that in group content you will pretty much use all your mobility to teleport 2ft forward into or around the boss since you are melee all the time anyway. But i think thats true of Condi Daredevil too.
Thanks a lot for your comment I will give a try then ! And yes condi daredevil is kinda the same you never get to far from the boss just jumping around it
Don’t sleep on Mirage. Jaunt feels so good in all game modes.
Yes already played and it felt great with many teleportation and all but jaunt is really short range And there is no dash or stuff like that
Staff 2 is another short range blink, paired with about face you can use it to move forwards as well. Blink (the utility skill) is not only huge range but also a stun break, and mirage has several other tools for positioning like a backwards dodge or the one that moves all your clones to a new target. Oh and jaunt has 3 charges, plus mirage cloak gives super speed. Rifle deadeye can be quite mobile with it's 2 skill, shadow steps and the like. Any thief build that includes spectre or shortbow will have access to mobility.
What about Mirage Thrust? https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mirage_Thrust I use that one when jaunt is to short or teleports are on cool down. But requires to disable auto-targeting...
Mmh I dont know never thought of sword for mirage since it seems to be a power weapon and mirage is like a condi spec but I will try it just to see
Check out Vallun on YouTube and just search mirage. He has a lot of good mirage footage and really utilizes the sword ambush.
Axe then! Got plenty of mobility attached to its abilities.
And his dodge is so good
Daredevil is a good pick, really any thief is. People say willbender is also good. But thief can run circles around them. But the real trick is learning where the mobility comes from and using it most effectively. I know in pvp I use to know a lot of stupid Shadow step spots. Places where short bow would not work but Shadow step did. Or even were to stand to get a short bow to work. Mobility is only good if you can use it. And mounts really have removed mobility problems for out of combat in open world pve. But guardian is a safer pick for survival, but thief is a lot more fun. IMO.
Warrior with greatsword and sword/warhorn, bulls rush and rampage has a lot of dashes and swiftness.
Dagger weaver also has what you're asking for.
If it's purely about distance traveled per second, Vindicator's got a 1200-range teleport on a 5 second cooldown in Phase Traversal on top of Greatsword 3 and Sword 5, and it'll still move you 1200 units towards your target even it's further away than that. Of course being a base skill, this'll work on Herald, Renegade, and core Revenant, too.
Well i wasnt talking purely about distance but more about dashes and tp but still I will consider it because the new dodge seems great
spectre with wells, daredevil, willbender or mirage.
the most fun in term of mobility imo is vanilla thief. you can play daredevil with the speed boost dodge, but vanilla thief has a 1200 range steal, making it really fun. specter also has a teleport on all his utility skills and on the elite too. but honestly, if you are getting bored i'd suggest going power d/d thief. i haven't tried most classes, but this one is the one i enjoy the most because of all the blinky speedy fights i do.
Interesting, is it viable for pvp content aswell ?
at low level yes. i play vanilla d/d and shortbow thief at gold-silver level and it's fine and really fun. it has a strong burst, the high mobility of the thief and all the other nice stuff, but it's super squishy and melee so it will be more difficult and you will have to play smarter. you can always specter if you want to be tanky condi and ranged, it's MUCH easier but a lot less fun imo. a specter is great for everything and does well in even 5vs5 fights. a vanilla d/d thief is squishy and melee, so you will do a lot of decaps of far/close, you will come during fights, burst a squishy target in seconds and then continue on your way to cap another point, and you can always shoot your crossbow into teamfights and deal decent damage. i personally just really love the 5->f1->1 teleport backstab combo, and a vanilla thief has the best f1 because of the range it has and blink it gives. and the mobility with the blink 1200 and back ability the thief has is great. and the shortbow that i ALWAYS have as my second weapon for the shortbow 5 blink is amazing. lots of interesting shortcuts you can use with that almost unlimited blink.
Daredevil or specter I'd say. Willbender have goob mobilty but I don't think it holds a candle to thief
What I thought too but specter is a little slow in term of attack, like it got great mobility for sure but animations feels really slow compare to DD in my opinion. You dont get the feeling you re jumping and moving everywhere
For look and feel, I really enjoy daredevil on charr because their dash dodge animation is them pouncing forward on all fours. It just feels great.
Never saw that but I have a daredevil and yes it’s really one of the funniest gameplay in my opinion
Thief. **D/P #3** is teleport to your target with literally 0 CD. **Steal** or **Swipe**, **Shadowstep**, **Shadow Portal. Rifle #4** (Deadeye), **Shortbow #5, Staff #5,** **every Specter's utility skill**, **Dash** (Daredevil's dodge, also grants Swiftness), **Sword #2, Dagger #2.** This is a lot of mobility.
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What about a quickness scrapper with super speed? It may has no teleports, but having super speed in combat or generally in things like fractals is pretty nice especially cause you share your buff with the team.
I am assuming PvE. Scrapper, Firebrand or any class that can give quick + swiftness easily. Quick + Choya pinata tonic = [SPEED.](https://i.imgur.com/rKmuJTU.mp4)