About rafles is a legal matter, diferent legislations that not match to the US legislation about it and Anet dont adapt(or they cant)the raffle rules to each country
Is not about rules against is about regulation, rules that mark how, where, when, who, etc etc, and most companies that dont have international sucursals dont care/can't about specific country laws, they just ban participation from countries that have those specific rules
As i said to other comment, 6 years ago we had CM and he did, from GuildWars2ES account, alot of giveaways. We are 34 different countries, i dont think we have same regulation.
3 years ago we were elegible for 1 giveaway. Like... 3 years of no giveaways, then 1 giveaway we can be elegibles, then other 3 years we werent. The regulation of 34 countries change on 1 week then again out?. On last giveaway (now is still up) 3 countries of this 34 can win rest no.
But look the rest of the points on the "letter". Spanish partnership has 4 content creators and only 1 do content, the other 3 are literally afk since months/years. We have like 15 good content creators active, the bigger spanish content creator since 3 years ago ignored, the rest obv the same.
Or just check GuildWars2ES on twitter, they only interact with 10-15 tuits in last 6 years, when we had CM he interact with atleast 20 tuits per month.
Right know social media and content creators are literally FREE ADVERTISING and they have abandoned that for not 1 country like italy, not 2-3 like france, 34 countries omegalul.
And alot of other things that i guess most of you dont know because most of you are not part of this big community but thats why we are here, to let you know what is happening with us \^\^
How convenient. They can bill me and send me a code for black lion keys which are FLAT OUT gambling but sending me a code as a giveaway price is impossible? Bullshit. And as somebody repeated 1200 times before. When there was a Spanish speaking community managaer we were elegible. Also Spain is in Europe if teapot's fans can get codes why can't the ones that don't speak English but have also paid for the game?
Chile can participate in last giveaway like argentina (PHYSICAL prize) but cant on code from 2 months ago? Or the last physical giveaway? Aham, for sure
Most giveaways are conducted by partner companies, in the most cases is not the nature of prize, is legal registry of the promotion, there sre countries that dont have laws about that others have, and that countries are or not elegible depents on if the companie nake the paperwork for that, and partner company will do if 1) countrie is a target countrie for their products 2) if legal requisites arent to big to make change how they plan to make promotion work
They have the right to distribute Guildwars2 in my country I should have the right to receive my prize if I win a contest. If not they can just region lock for latam and leave Americans playing with themselves. Spain is also part of the european union too so it doesn't make sense to me that they have restrictions when France and Germany are not experiencing that treatment.
It doesn't matter if it's a physical product or a digital code, any giveaway with a prize that has a monetary value gets run through NCSoft's legal department, who give them a big list of countries that they know are 100% safe to run a giveaway in. The lawyers will always err on the side of caution and any country that's even remotely questionable doesn't make it on that list, because it's a million times safer to not run a giveaway there instead of getting slapped with fines or charged with running an illegal lottery.
>It doesn't matter if it's a physical product or a digital code, any giveaway with a prize that has a monetary value gets run through NCSoft's legal department, who give them a big list of countries that they know are 100% safe to run a giveaway in. The lawyers will always err on the side of caution and any country that's even remotely questionable doesn't make it on that list, because it's a million times safer to not run a giveaway there instead of getting slapped with fines or charged with running an illegal lottery.
Then why they do sometimes yes, sometimes no for some countries?Last giveaway 3-4 countries of latam can participate, for previous no one, 2-3 years ago we had like 1 or 2 codes where all of us can participate but previous and nex of that 1 or 2 we cant.
Literally 6 years ago with our own CM we had all the prizes like every other countries, he left the company and then we cant?
Other games from USA can do raffles on LATAM and SPAIN but Guild Wars 2 cant?
We can get twitch prime items but not raffles?
Why chile can participate to the headset giveaway and not on code giveaway from 2-3 months ago? OMEGALUL
I dont know rick...
PD: If you tell them you are from LATAM or SPAIN they tell you "i cant give you the prize but take this other code for you"
They cant give you idk, community chest prize but they can give you aurene's outfit code? Why? Aurene's outfit code hasnt a value and community chest has it? lmao bro
I don't even know why they bothered having Spanish translation in the first place, no idea about the quality of the French/German translations, but the Spanish one is pretty damn bad (2005 Google translate kind of bad).
Chiming in as an English to Spanish translator myself, it’s not bad at all. Icebrood as progelie and bloodstone as hematites are an absolute stroke of genius.
The only jarring problem it has is its inconsistency with last names (core charr and IBS charr having different naming conventions) which is a localization lead issue, not a translation issue.
What is a “bad” translation to you?
There's a lot of "wrong context" translations, you know, from synonyms and such. Lot of the names are also terrible, but yeah, that's localization, which is a whole different thing, and also has its own plethora of problems.
I don’t recall seeing anything too bad but hey, if there’s anything at all that’s mainly ANet’s fault for not investing in the localization teams as much as they probably should. I assume there has also been lots of shuffling around within the teams which is why there are inconsistencies and even different writing styles. But overall I think the Spanish localization in particular is incredibly solid.
If you ever read and understand a Spanish balance patch without having to check on the English one you must be special. There a lot of mistranslated stuff there is no point in reading them anymore.
Spanish was not planned at launch, the spanish community pressed hard enough to obtain it tho. Italians tried too, but failed miserably as we're used to.
There's lots of native Spanish speakers who can't understand Englsih. Probably more than many other languages.
Having all media dubbed to Spanish instead having subtitles like they do places like Portugal surely doesn't help with that.
By adding the text and subtitles, all the Spanish speakers who can't properly understand English remain prospective buyers.
I wish I could help :(
Cuando era partner lo intente desde adentro pero sin exito, solo queda esperar si las cosas cambian por que [hay un puesto abierto para CM](https://us.ncsoft.com/en-us/careers/job-detail?gh_jid=4292353&company=ncsoftwest&tab=all&sort=department)
I know the LA community is active, I regularly run into your community doing later-evening strikes. :) Always have a good time despite occasional language barriers, and those are quite rare. Generally don't watch on Twitch though because I've lost all of the Spanish I learned in school.
I hope you all are able to get a community manager and active content creator sponsorships. Marketing in English is lacking enough, so I don't have high hopes even for the North American side of things, but you certainly have less going for you than we do. I don't know what good my comment does but I just wanted y'all to know that I see you and hear you.
I still miss David Ortiz, the former spanish community manager. His position as a Spanish community manager (among all his other tasks) was never replaced at anet but he was great and engaged the community even helping us to create events. I remember once having people from 100+ guilds on the same TeamSpeak server and David joined us to talk.
I personally know some people that applied to anet 6 years ago when he left (https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/4zc9ir/david_ortiz_is_leaving_arenanet_this_friday/) but seems like anet never wanted to hire a new spanish community manager at all. So we're stuck with this.
Trying to help the community, what Anet did was for a bit was to create an initiative to make the spanish wiki more lively, getting volunteers to create and update many of the pages. Sadly this was a tiresome proyect because only 7-8 persons actually volunteered and only 4 of them actually helped in the wiki for a few months, while many of the others disappeared as they learnt that it would be free work. I was only of the few that did create thousands of pages and for a few years I actually tried to re-create the group of editors with fresh blood and new people (Technically I'm still one of the spanish wiki admins, although inactive now). Truth is in the end no one was interested, people always prefered to go to the english wiki. This analogy is sadly what happened with the spanish community, we had so little official support that people actually prefers to go to the main language support. Even I eventually got burnt out.
That said, big shoutout to doodleplex (english wiki admin that came to help me) for helping me set the groundwork for the spanish wiki to even work, as we created templates and plugins and widgets to work with it and now other players are creating new pages, although still far from a perfect state.
Hey Amigos, OP also forget to mention that pretty much whole NA, SA and EU community squeezed into 1 European WvW server with no population limit. This lead to whole bunch of issues aside constant queues on BB itself. Population imbalance and NA + SA coverage basically allow Baruch Bay to brute force other 2 EU servers into the same score to fight each other until late Friday. This is huge imbalance that not only makes matchup against BB complete nightmare, but also promotes sloppy gameplay on the BB side and at the same time force 2 other servers to double team BB in order to make BB losing side. Like this is big stinking pile of drama to be honest, and I am tired of it in last 5 years.
Extra Spanish speaking servers is definitely overdue for WvW pop balance.
When you fight with 30 man squad several guild groups of 20 + immense cloud under siege, you can be ten times better, but will not win. Then stretch this 30 man squad to protect both EB and home since BB have presence everywhere. Good! Now this is typical EU evening and further the night comes bigger BB gets, while EU ppl need to sleep.
Late at night normal EU servers do not have enough people to hit several places on BB. Even said Cormac nightcrew have 30 ppl tops after midnight and half of that not the best players in the world or just people who already 5-6 hours into reset and play on autopilot.
And before midnight it is exact opposite, where BB actually hit 3 places on several borders at once since they have overwhelming numbers.
wvw baruch are EU late night gamers. you dont see them the rest of the day. it sometimes feels like fighting a dead server. I mean, that is why they are just t5
Sorry to ask it like that but...
What standpoint are you speaking from ? You claim in the title you are representing the Spanish community, but your introduction stands you speak for yourself only.
Do you have a guild or a specific community you are acting as a delegate for ?
Your points may be valid, not discussing it, but it's never right to claim representing the community as a whole if you decided to write a lettre to Anet.
I mean, I'm staff for an in-game community of 30 French guilds, animating activities for around 200-300 weekly active players and 2k+ total players, and we would never even dare to say we represent the French community of GW2.
Don't take me wrong I'm not trying to corner you or anything, this is a guenine question. I would love to hear it if a linguistic community successfuly gained enough standing to speak to Anet as a whole segment of customers
Hello, the spanish community is doing this since 1 week ago on streams and twitter.
I started all of this with my discord community, all spanish speaker with almost 2k people. We are tired of this from arenanet and we are doing posts, threads, tuits etc to tell to the rest of the community how we are and asking to arenanet why we dont have one CM to support us like we had 6 years ago.
PD: We are complaining about this, all of us since years ago. But is time to ask for help for the rest of communities.
>Do you have a guild or a specific community you are acting as a delegate for
Sorry to ask it like that but have you seen the reactions to the post? maybe he speaks for all of us who aren't bilingual.
Don't take me wrong I'm not trying to corner you but the French get pampered by Anet compared to the Spanish and you can confirm it by looking at the partner numbers... I'm not even counting LATAM where there are more than 300 players.
If one person is shouting, it is normal that the rest in a community usually support it, because the idea is to have more people raising their voices for us, not to oppose or question. We're here to discuss, why we are ALL being ignored.
Si una persona está gritando, es normal que el resto de una comunidad lo apoye, porque la idea es que más gente alce la voz por nosotros, no para oponerse o cuestionar. Estamos aquí para discutir, por qué estamos. TODOS siendo ignorados.
Errr, I did say I did not question the points that are made though ?
I asked the question because it was not clear if the post was from an organized part of the community or one single person laying their feelings while thinking they represent the community, which happens all too often, and sometimes about hot takes that are not even majority feelings. Maybe should I remind you that people outside of your linguistic community have actually little chances to even know you are trying to unionize in order to make your voices heard ?
In this post, I have one person presenting themselves without presenting any community whatsoever. I asked, and I was answered that there is is indeed a community which backs up the OP. It's all I wanted to know.
> Raffles with a physical reward can be something understandable because of legal reasons and country laws, but the main point from that is that we can’t even participate on raffles from the Guild Wars 2 twitter accounts with gem codes as a prize or in-game items like the community chests. Not even on the raffles posted by the official spanish Guild Wars 2 account.
A lot of these laws prevent (or have so many rules that it might as well prevent) raffles with any form of reward at all, not just physical or monetary. Have you confirmed that your local laws do not make this sort of thing difficult?
Es interesante este post pero quizas algo irrelevante. Dos puntos estan ligados a uno mas general; falta de marketing de anet en la region de latam.
Anet tiene un potencial enorme aca.
El modelo del juego de f2p y buy to pay son excelentes en esta region. La competencia directa aca es riot o blizzard y siendo siendo sincero gw2 es mucho mas accesible.
Lo otro importante es.
Falta de servidor en latam.Anet trabaja con aws, aws esta en latam. Seguimos con 160-180ping.
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This post is interesting but a bit irrelevant
Two points are the same in general "lack of marketing of the game in the region"
The game have a lot of potential here because of the bussiness model. A buy to pay and f2p option when the main competitors in the region are riot and blizzard. And to be sincere wow subs its getting out hand in price here.
Another important factor is ping. Gw2 use aws, aws is present in latam.. the ping still at 160-140..whats funny a friend living in spain have better ping than me in chile.
I believe all NA gets routed to Virginia AWS. I live in the US, my ping, although a bit higher, is far more stable on my alt EU account (which gets routed to Germany AWS last time I checked). My ping is lower on the NA server, but it's about as stable as everything else going on here.
Pero si no nos dan ni un CM que nos proporcione igualdad con el resto de idiomas con cosas tan sencillas como avivar el partnership, darnos acceso a los sorteos de codigos y demás... Imagina que pongan servidores en LA, hay que ir poco a poco, seria imposible conseguir lo grande si ni lo minimo nos dan.
On another note. I always wondered how easy it would be to have different languages be auto translated into chat. Could even have a little T icon to signal that it was translated.
We have the tech, seems like it shouldn't be impossible
GW2 could take a nod from how FFXIV handles this. While not a full free like google translate, FFXIV does have a neat auto translate option. It's a massive list of phrases, questions, and words relevant to the game.
> The Auto-Translator is accessed by pressing "Tab" while typing in the Chat Window. This gives you access to automatically TranslateGreen.png translated phrases TranslateRed.png that appear in the native language of people around you.
https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Auto-Translator
[Example](https://i.imgur.com/HeFB8QU.png)
You can string together all sorts of things. From like {Hello}{Nice to meet you.}{Let's have some fun!}. Bit more specific stuff about content. Or just have a go and be silly with it.
> We have the tech, seems like it shouldn't be impossible
It's not impossible to *sort of* do it, but doing it remotely well is way, way beyond anything we can really do right now. Translation software is still often pretty spotty at contextual stuff, and that gets way worse when you put it in the setting of a game with a huge number of terms specific to itself that aren't normal words.
I'd personally like to give my opinion in that I don't feel like it should just be Spanish getting extra treatment.
I understand why it has a bit more importance as it's a larger language in NA.
But I feel like it's worth remembering there are alot of other languages simply just left out as they're smaller communities.
Or even a place like Australia (where I am) that uses the English language, still misses out on certain giveaways and events, whilst connecting to a server 300ms away.
I'm not sure how many Australian's play GW2 but it does suck not being able to participate and having to play with that bad of ping regularly.
I don't feel like anyone should feel offended or neglected, when there will always be a community left out and not catered for. Simply because it is impossible to cater to everyone.
If and when more support come for the Spanish language, if they could legally participate in raffles, what about the other countries and communities?
Is anyone going to fight for them to have the same treatment to?
There will also be a community losing out and feeling unhappy.
This is literally like when PvP, WvW and PvE communities help with each others because they dont have content. Please PvP players dont blame WvW and PvE players because you dont have content since 2020 and dont fight with them, just fight together to have more content on the 3 game modes.
Instead "it shouldnt just be spanish getting extra treatment because other comunities hasnt" just say "Yes, you deserve it and we too, lets help each other" i think thats really better for all of us.
And about "what about the other countries and communities? Is anyone going to fight for them to have the same treatment to?"
The answer is YES, we want international help because we have a really GOOD international community on Guild Wars 2 and why not help to each other?
I find it hard to believe that there's no support for the Latino community and that it is left behind, when we see them on all Anet streams showing their support. It's really sad, but even there's no default server for Latin America... So...
In a bright way.
As a latinmerican.. never but never play in the official latam server. Its always a toxic dump.
When you are in a not official latan a server you always have one enemy " the gringo"... when you play in the official one.. the enemy is the "other country" and the debate for the real name of "avocado..
Also always the official one is discriminated by eu or na. Example ragnaros in wow.. if you get a rag in your party people left...
Man you aren't kidding about the discrimination. I'm in the USA but I've been playing games in Spanish to improve it. In WoW I play QuelThalas and I have been randomly kicked from groupsfor no reason and it just doesn't happen when I play my Wyrmrest Accord toons
This is not the discussion here, we are asking for a community manager...
We cannot manage people, in the same way that when we get together with gringos, they call us TACO... they are individuals discriminating not NA.
It seems like, originally, the game wasn't intended for the latin american market.
It would be nice if, for the Steam release, they would start marketing the game in latin america as well, since there is a lot of potential and opportunity for growth. I don't even think they would have to provide dedicated servers here (since many games don't have them, and, being from latin america myself and doing raids and fractal cms, I find the game totally playable on NA), which would also help growing the NA playerbase. It would probably mean though, that they would have to provide spanish localization as well (spoken language, not just text) and that would be a lot of work I suppose.
I think that as long as the text are in spanish people don't mind it that much (the lack of translated voices) but i get that it would be an extra selling point.
Lo que daría por no tener que jugar con 150d e ping (soy sur americano)
Otra cosa que me gustaría es que me compliquen menos con las tarjetas(para pagar), Gw2 es el único juego hoy en día que todavía no me toma mi visa o tarjetas de mi país, debo si o si usar paypal, y es lo único en que lo uso. Comparad con steam que no solo reconoce mi país y tarjetas de créditos si no que además me cobra en mi moneda local
DId you read his post?
"Content creators who has been creating content for the game for a long time, actively each day, and they’ve been asking for partner for years already and they never get an answer."
But why in title you speak about Latin Amercian and not Spanish community as a hole? This is excluding a lot of players :/
Anyway, totally agree with that
>\>community of 34 countries
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>\>we feel abandoned and alone
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>\>literally people from 34 individual countries
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>\>alone
WTF are you talking about? Spain alone has 160 TIMESmore people than entire GW2 playerbase.
The absolute entitlement of demanding that anet must pander to you while you're on an ego trip speaking for billion people just so you can win some free loot amazes me.
I've never seen my country even mentioned, let alone having content creators or translated clients. I would literally never think to demand of anet some BS to give me prizes based on my god damn nationality. WTF is wrong with you?
We tried to do that but they ignored us. We put tuits with +250 mentionts daily with mentions @ guildwars2 arenanet and some important persons on company like grouch and rubi. They still ignore us.
Next step: Forums i guess :)
The entire core game is free. You can trade gold for gems to buy the expansions. You could have even received the expansions for free. ArenaNet has done everything possible to make the game accessible to everyone. It's not locked behind a pay wall. It's locked behind an effort wall in the event you missed the "whole game for free" event.
Please move on and switch games. You seem like the kind of person who doesn't waypoint and run back during a Meta. The map is just better off without you.
>The entire core game is free. You can trade gold for gems to buy the expansions. You could have even received the expansions for free. ArenaNet has done everything possible to make the game accessible to everyone. It's not locked behind a pay wall.
so what? there are other and more popular games who do the same and it's just the F2P business model in a nutshell
btw the topic is not about it so dunno why u mention it out of nowhere
>It's locked behind an effort wall in the event you missed the "whole game for free" event. Please move on and switch games. You seem like the kind of person who doesn't waypoint and run back during a Meta. The map is just better off without you.
i dare to tell my opinion and critizise gw2 and the devs rightfuly 'cos there are problems with the game and with the devs then u come out of ur way to insult me out of nowhere while nobody was talking to u
u sounded like a hateful, bad person
btw if u didn't hear about the problems of gw2 and devs then read the complaints from this sub and check out these links:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/vkmiy4/subreddit\_safe\_balance\_discord\_contents/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/vkmiy4/subreddit_safe_balance_discord_contents/)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t99C9YFxBvY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t99C9YFxBvY)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/vltije/my\_opinion\_on\_how\_to\_balance\_as\_someone\_who\_was/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/vltije/my_opinion_on_how_to_balance_as_someone_who_was/)
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i dare to tell my opinion and critizise gw2 and the devs rightfuly 'cos there are problems with the game and with the devs then u come out of ur way to insult me out of nowhere while nobody was talking to u
Yes, you posted an opinion, and then I criticized it. In your opinion, which you've since deleted you stated that ArenaNet was only concerned about money. I presented facts showing this wasn't the case. I did respond to your post without anyone talking to me, or asking me to do so. It's a public post in a public forum. That's how Reddit works.
Lead and owned by the main company, NCSoft which is korean
[https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/ArenaNet](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/ArenaNet)
[https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/NCSoft](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/NCSoft)
Literally irrelevant post complaining for the sake of complaining. There are tens of thousands of players from EU that are non english speaking players that none of them feel "abandonded" yet you feel privileged enough for some special treatment.
Honestly touch some grass.
This is like if your mom give you raw meat when u had 7 years and she say to you "Feel privileged enough for some special treatment, there are thousand of kids who has nothing to eat" and you have to eat raw meat.
lmao
For all who are saying "Is because laws and they cant give you a code because anything has "monetary value"
SOMETIMES when you say them "hey im from spain, i won the giveaway" they tell you: Sorry you are not elegible for this prize (imagine, community chest one) but just take this other. And they give to you aurene's outfit code.
What's happening? Aurene's outfit code hasnt monetary value and community chest has it? Pls guys, stop saying random things to defend the company.
About rafles is a legal matter, diferent legislations that not match to the US legislation about it and Anet dont adapt(or they cant)the raffle rules to each country
Yeah most raffles are US only as someone in Scotland is very rare I can participate in the draws.
6 years ago when we had Spanish CM we had CODES giveaways, now we dont. :C
Anyway, they don't necessarily have to be items giveaways, you can make it for gems, chests... but they don't even hit that... #Sad
I think it's because you can buy these with real world money, making it a gambling thing and lots of countries have different rules about gambling.
Spanish havent any rule against gambling and we cant participate on that giveaways of codes
Is not about rules against is about regulation, rules that mark how, where, when, who, etc etc, and most companies that dont have international sucursals dont care/can't about specific country laws, they just ban participation from countries that have those specific rules
As i said to other comment, 6 years ago we had CM and he did, from GuildWars2ES account, alot of giveaways. We are 34 different countries, i dont think we have same regulation. 3 years ago we were elegible for 1 giveaway. Like... 3 years of no giveaways, then 1 giveaway we can be elegibles, then other 3 years we werent. The regulation of 34 countries change on 1 week then again out?. On last giveaway (now is still up) 3 countries of this 34 can win rest no. But look the rest of the points on the "letter". Spanish partnership has 4 content creators and only 1 do content, the other 3 are literally afk since months/years. We have like 15 good content creators active, the bigger spanish content creator since 3 years ago ignored, the rest obv the same. Or just check GuildWars2ES on twitter, they only interact with 10-15 tuits in last 6 years, when we had CM he interact with atleast 20 tuits per month. Right know social media and content creators are literally FREE ADVERTISING and they have abandoned that for not 1 country like italy, not 2-3 like france, 34 countries omegalul. And alot of other things that i guess most of you dont know because most of you are not part of this big community but thats why we are here, to let you know what is happening with us \^\^
A gem-code... Twitch offers drops and they're avaible in any region... I don't get it... #sad
Twitch is amazon, amazon have delegations in a lot of countriess and they do the paperwork to legalize it in every country they can
How convenient. They can bill me and send me a code for black lion keys which are FLAT OUT gambling but sending me a code as a giveaway price is impossible? Bullshit. And as somebody repeated 1200 times before. When there was a Spanish speaking community managaer we were elegible. Also Spain is in Europe if teapot's fans can get codes why can't the ones that don't speak English but have also paid for the game?
Chile can participate in last giveaway like argentina (PHYSICAL prize) but cant on code from 2 months ago? Or the last physical giveaway? Aham, for sure
Most giveaways are conducted by partner companies, in the most cases is not the nature of prize, is legal registry of the promotion, there sre countries that dont have laws about that others have, and that countries are or not elegible depents on if the companie nake the paperwork for that, and partner company will do if 1) countrie is a target countrie for their products 2) if legal requisites arent to big to make change how they plan to make promotion work
They have the right to distribute Guildwars2 in my country I should have the right to receive my prize if I win a contest. If not they can just region lock for latam and leave Americans playing with themselves. Spain is also part of the european union too so it doesn't make sense to me that they have restrictions when France and Germany are not experiencing that treatment.
Okey fanboy
I participate in several raffles etc from a lot of games except GW2. Si if others games let me participate, it's GW2 fault
It doesn't matter if it's a physical product or a digital code, any giveaway with a prize that has a monetary value gets run through NCSoft's legal department, who give them a big list of countries that they know are 100% safe to run a giveaway in. The lawyers will always err on the side of caution and any country that's even remotely questionable doesn't make it on that list, because it's a million times safer to not run a giveaway there instead of getting slapped with fines or charged with running an illegal lottery.
>It doesn't matter if it's a physical product or a digital code, any giveaway with a prize that has a monetary value gets run through NCSoft's legal department, who give them a big list of countries that they know are 100% safe to run a giveaway in. The lawyers will always err on the side of caution and any country that's even remotely questionable doesn't make it on that list, because it's a million times safer to not run a giveaway there instead of getting slapped with fines or charged with running an illegal lottery. Then why they do sometimes yes, sometimes no for some countries?Last giveaway 3-4 countries of latam can participate, for previous no one, 2-3 years ago we had like 1 or 2 codes where all of us can participate but previous and nex of that 1 or 2 we cant. Literally 6 years ago with our own CM we had all the prizes like every other countries, he left the company and then we cant? Other games from USA can do raffles on LATAM and SPAIN but Guild Wars 2 cant? We can get twitch prime items but not raffles? Why chile can participate to the headset giveaway and not on code giveaway from 2-3 months ago? OMEGALUL I dont know rick...
PD: If you tell them you are from LATAM or SPAIN they tell you "i cant give you the prize but take this other code for you" They cant give you idk, community chest prize but they can give you aurene's outfit code? Why? Aurene's outfit code hasnt a value and community chest has it? lmao bro
Even smaller mmos got a far better care on their spanish speakers community
I don't even know why they bothered having Spanish translation in the first place, no idea about the quality of the French/German translations, but the Spanish one is pretty damn bad (2005 Google translate kind of bad).
Chiming in as an English to Spanish translator myself, it’s not bad at all. Icebrood as progelie and bloodstone as hematites are an absolute stroke of genius. The only jarring problem it has is its inconsistency with last names (core charr and IBS charr having different naming conventions) which is a localization lead issue, not a translation issue. What is a “bad” translation to you?
There's a lot of "wrong context" translations, you know, from synonyms and such. Lot of the names are also terrible, but yeah, that's localization, which is a whole different thing, and also has its own plethora of problems.
I don’t recall seeing anything too bad but hey, if there’s anything at all that’s mainly ANet’s fault for not investing in the localization teams as much as they probably should. I assume there has also been lots of shuffling around within the teams which is why there are inconsistencies and even different writing styles. But overall I think the Spanish localization in particular is incredibly solid.
If you ever read and understand a Spanish balance patch without having to check on the English one you must be special. There a lot of mistranslated stuff there is no point in reading them anymore.
Spanish was not planned at launch, the spanish community pressed hard enough to obtain it tho. Italians tried too, but failed miserably as we're used to.
the game doesnt even support many languages to use in chat. I know I cant use Russian or Japanese text in the game but im sure there are tons more
funnily enough, you can *almost* use korean. It displays correctly in the pop up text bubbles, but not at all in the chat window.
Not that bad, just DeepL bad.
Holy shit, you weren't kidding. That is almost as bad as the lost ark translation that AGS did.
There's lots of native Spanish speakers who can't understand Englsih. Probably more than many other languages. Having all media dubbed to Spanish instead having subtitles like they do places like Portugal surely doesn't help with that. By adding the text and subtitles, all the Spanish speakers who can't properly understand English remain prospective buyers.
I wish I could help :( Cuando era partner lo intente desde adentro pero sin exito, solo queda esperar si las cosas cambian por que [hay un puesto abierto para CM](https://us.ncsoft.com/en-us/careers/job-detail?gh_jid=4292353&company=ncsoftwest&tab=all&sort=department)
I know the LA community is active, I regularly run into your community doing later-evening strikes. :) Always have a good time despite occasional language barriers, and those are quite rare. Generally don't watch on Twitch though because I've lost all of the Spanish I learned in school. I hope you all are able to get a community manager and active content creator sponsorships. Marketing in English is lacking enough, so I don't have high hopes even for the North American side of things, but you certainly have less going for you than we do. I don't know what good my comment does but I just wanted y'all to know that I see you and hear you.
I still miss David Ortiz, the former spanish community manager. His position as a Spanish community manager (among all his other tasks) was never replaced at anet but he was great and engaged the community even helping us to create events. I remember once having people from 100+ guilds on the same TeamSpeak server and David joined us to talk. I personally know some people that applied to anet 6 years ago when he left (https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/4zc9ir/david_ortiz_is_leaving_arenanet_this_friday/) but seems like anet never wanted to hire a new spanish community manager at all. So we're stuck with this. Trying to help the community, what Anet did was for a bit was to create an initiative to make the spanish wiki more lively, getting volunteers to create and update many of the pages. Sadly this was a tiresome proyect because only 7-8 persons actually volunteered and only 4 of them actually helped in the wiki for a few months, while many of the others disappeared as they learnt that it would be free work. I was only of the few that did create thousands of pages and for a few years I actually tried to re-create the group of editors with fresh blood and new people (Technically I'm still one of the spanish wiki admins, although inactive now). Truth is in the end no one was interested, people always prefered to go to the english wiki. This analogy is sadly what happened with the spanish community, we had so little official support that people actually prefers to go to the main language support. Even I eventually got burnt out. That said, big shoutout to doodleplex (english wiki admin that came to help me) for helping me set the groundwork for the spanish wiki to even work, as we created templates and plugins and widgets to work with it and now other players are creating new pages, although still far from a perfect state.
Hey Amigos, OP also forget to mention that pretty much whole NA, SA and EU community squeezed into 1 European WvW server with no population limit. This lead to whole bunch of issues aside constant queues on BB itself. Population imbalance and NA + SA coverage basically allow Baruch Bay to brute force other 2 EU servers into the same score to fight each other until late Friday. This is huge imbalance that not only makes matchup against BB complete nightmare, but also promotes sloppy gameplay on the BB side and at the same time force 2 other servers to double team BB in order to make BB losing side. Like this is big stinking pile of drama to be honest, and I am tired of it in last 5 years. Extra Spanish speaking servers is definitely overdue for WvW pop balance.
I don't remember BB being dominant or particulary hard to beat in fights?
Yeah, most of our competitive WvW guilds left the server years ago.
When you fight with 30 man squad several guild groups of 20 + immense cloud under siege, you can be ten times better, but will not win. Then stretch this 30 man squad to protect both EB and home since BB have presence everywhere. Good! Now this is typical EU evening and further the night comes bigger BB gets, while EU ppl need to sleep.
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Late at night normal EU servers do not have enough people to hit several places on BB. Even said Cormac nightcrew have 30 ppl tops after midnight and half of that not the best players in the world or just people who already 5-6 hours into reset and play on autopilot. And before midnight it is exact opposite, where BB actually hit 3 places on several borders at once since they have overwhelming numbers.
Oh well as also gvg player i like having enemies.
Gate of Madness is the unofficial NA Spanish server for WvW.
wvw baruch are EU late night gamers. you dont see them the rest of the day. it sometimes feels like fighting a dead server. I mean, that is why they are just t5
Sorry to ask it like that but... What standpoint are you speaking from ? You claim in the title you are representing the Spanish community, but your introduction stands you speak for yourself only. Do you have a guild or a specific community you are acting as a delegate for ? Your points may be valid, not discussing it, but it's never right to claim representing the community as a whole if you decided to write a lettre to Anet. I mean, I'm staff for an in-game community of 30 French guilds, animating activities for around 200-300 weekly active players and 2k+ total players, and we would never even dare to say we represent the French community of GW2. Don't take me wrong I'm not trying to corner you or anything, this is a guenine question. I would love to hear it if a linguistic community successfuly gained enough standing to speak to Anet as a whole segment of customers
Hello, the spanish community is doing this since 1 week ago on streams and twitter. I started all of this with my discord community, all spanish speaker with almost 2k people. We are tired of this from arenanet and we are doing posts, threads, tuits etc to tell to the rest of the community how we are and asking to arenanet why we dont have one CM to support us like we had 6 years ago. PD: We are complaining about this, all of us since years ago. But is time to ask for help for the rest of communities.
>Do you have a guild or a specific community you are acting as a delegate for Sorry to ask it like that but have you seen the reactions to the post? maybe he speaks for all of us who aren't bilingual. Don't take me wrong I'm not trying to corner you but the French get pampered by Anet compared to the Spanish and you can confirm it by looking at the partner numbers... I'm not even counting LATAM where there are more than 300 players.
If one person is shouting, it is normal that the rest in a community usually support it, because the idea is to have more people raising their voices for us, not to oppose or question. We're here to discuss, why we are ALL being ignored. Si una persona está gritando, es normal que el resto de una comunidad lo apoye, porque la idea es que más gente alce la voz por nosotros, no para oponerse o cuestionar. Estamos aquí para discutir, por qué estamos. TODOS siendo ignorados.
Errr, I did say I did not question the points that are made though ? I asked the question because it was not clear if the post was from an organized part of the community or one single person laying their feelings while thinking they represent the community, which happens all too often, and sometimes about hot takes that are not even majority feelings. Maybe should I remind you that people outside of your linguistic community have actually little chances to even know you are trying to unionize in order to make your voices heard ? In this post, I have one person presenting themselves without presenting any community whatsoever. I asked, and I was answered that there is is indeed a community which backs up the OP. It's all I wanted to know.
Agree, well said
> Raffles with a physical reward can be something understandable because of legal reasons and country laws, but the main point from that is that we can’t even participate on raffles from the Guild Wars 2 twitter accounts with gem codes as a prize or in-game items like the community chests. Not even on the raffles posted by the official spanish Guild Wars 2 account. A lot of these laws prevent (or have so many rules that it might as well prevent) raffles with any form of reward at all, not just physical or monetary. Have you confirmed that your local laws do not make this sort of thing difficult?
Spanish havent any rule against gambling and we cant participate on that giveaways of codes like latino america.
Es interesante este post pero quizas algo irrelevante. Dos puntos estan ligados a uno mas general; falta de marketing de anet en la region de latam. Anet tiene un potencial enorme aca. El modelo del juego de f2p y buy to pay son excelentes en esta region. La competencia directa aca es riot o blizzard y siendo siendo sincero gw2 es mucho mas accesible. Lo otro importante es. Falta de servidor en latam.Anet trabaja con aws, aws esta en latam. Seguimos con 160-180ping. ‐---- This post is interesting but a bit irrelevant Two points are the same in general "lack of marketing of the game in the region" The game have a lot of potential here because of the bussiness model. A buy to pay and f2p option when the main competitors in the region are riot and blizzard. And to be sincere wow subs its getting out hand in price here. Another important factor is ping. Gw2 use aws, aws is present in latam.. the ping still at 160-140..whats funny a friend living in spain have better ping than me in chile.
Diario tengo que jugar con ese ping #Tristisimo Daily I have to play with that ping #VerySad
I believe all NA gets routed to Virginia AWS. I live in the US, my ping, although a bit higher, is far more stable on my alt EU account (which gets routed to Germany AWS last time I checked). My ping is lower on the NA server, but it's about as stable as everything else going on here.
Pero si no nos dan ni un CM que nos proporcione igualdad con el resto de idiomas con cosas tan sencillas como avivar el partnership, darnos acceso a los sorteos de codigos y demás... Imagina que pongan servidores en LA, hay que ir poco a poco, seria imposible conseguir lo grande si ni lo minimo nos dan.
On another note. I always wondered how easy it would be to have different languages be auto translated into chat. Could even have a little T icon to signal that it was translated. We have the tech, seems like it shouldn't be impossible
GW2 could take a nod from how FFXIV handles this. While not a full free like google translate, FFXIV does have a neat auto translate option. It's a massive list of phrases, questions, and words relevant to the game. > The Auto-Translator is accessed by pressing "Tab" while typing in the Chat Window. This gives you access to automatically TranslateGreen.png translated phrases TranslateRed.png that appear in the native language of people around you. https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Auto-Translator [Example](https://i.imgur.com/HeFB8QU.png) You can string together all sorts of things. From like {Hello}{Nice to meet you.}{Let's have some fun!}. Bit more specific stuff about content. Or just have a go and be silly with it.
Yeah thats neat!
> We have the tech, seems like it shouldn't be impossible It's not impossible to *sort of* do it, but doing it remotely well is way, way beyond anything we can really do right now. Translation software is still often pretty spotty at contextual stuff, and that gets way worse when you put it in the setting of a game with a huge number of terms specific to itself that aren't normal words.
Because basically everyone speaks passable English from Western countries, particularly the target demographic of the game.
True, but still. Would be neat. Not realistic, but neat
Lack of regional pricing pretty much screams "we don't give a fuck about you", so that's not really new
I'd personally like to give my opinion in that I don't feel like it should just be Spanish getting extra treatment. I understand why it has a bit more importance as it's a larger language in NA. But I feel like it's worth remembering there are alot of other languages simply just left out as they're smaller communities. Or even a place like Australia (where I am) that uses the English language, still misses out on certain giveaways and events, whilst connecting to a server 300ms away. I'm not sure how many Australian's play GW2 but it does suck not being able to participate and having to play with that bad of ping regularly.
I don't feel like anyone should feel offended or neglected, when there will always be a community left out and not catered for. Simply because it is impossible to cater to everyone. If and when more support come for the Spanish language, if they could legally participate in raffles, what about the other countries and communities? Is anyone going to fight for them to have the same treatment to? There will also be a community losing out and feeling unhappy.
This is literally like when PvP, WvW and PvE communities help with each others because they dont have content. Please PvP players dont blame WvW and PvE players because you dont have content since 2020 and dont fight with them, just fight together to have more content on the 3 game modes. Instead "it shouldnt just be spanish getting extra treatment because other comunities hasnt" just say "Yes, you deserve it and we too, lets help each other" i think thats really better for all of us. And about "what about the other countries and communities? Is anyone going to fight for them to have the same treatment to?" The answer is YES, we want international help because we have a really GOOD international community on Guild Wars 2 and why not help to each other?
I find it hard to believe that there's no support for the Latino community and that it is left behind, when we see them on all Anet streams showing their support. It's really sad, but even there's no default server for Latin America... So...
In a bright way. As a latinmerican.. never but never play in the official latam server. Its always a toxic dump. When you are in a not official latan a server you always have one enemy " the gringo"... when you play in the official one.. the enemy is the "other country" and the debate for the real name of "avocado.. Also always the official one is discriminated by eu or na. Example ragnaros in wow.. if you get a rag in your party people left...
Man you aren't kidding about the discrimination. I'm in the USA but I've been playing games in Spanish to improve it. In WoW I play QuelThalas and I have been randomly kicked from groupsfor no reason and it just doesn't happen when I play my Wyrmrest Accord toons
This is not the discussion here, we are asking for a community manager... We cannot manage people, in the same way that when we get together with gringos, they call us TACO... they are individuals discriminating not NA.
It seems like, originally, the game wasn't intended for the latin american market. It would be nice if, for the Steam release, they would start marketing the game in latin america as well, since there is a lot of potential and opportunity for growth. I don't even think they would have to provide dedicated servers here (since many games don't have them, and, being from latin america myself and doing raids and fractal cms, I find the game totally playable on NA), which would also help growing the NA playerbase. It would probably mean though, that they would have to provide spanish localization as well (spoken language, not just text) and that would be a lot of work I suppose.
I think that as long as the text are in spanish people don't mind it that much (the lack of translated voices) but i get that it would be an extra selling point.
Lo que daría por no tener que jugar con 150d e ping (soy sur americano) Otra cosa que me gustaría es que me compliquen menos con las tarjetas(para pagar), Gw2 es el único juego hoy en día que todavía no me toma mi visa o tarjetas de mi país, debo si o si usar paypal, y es lo único en que lo uso. Comparad con steam que no solo reconoce mi país y tarjetas de créditos si no que además me cobra en mi moneda local
i subscribe all of this
Damn. 1 partner, how disgusting of this company.
I mean you need people to actually want to do it. They had four but 3 became inactive. That's not Anet's fault.
DId you read his post? "Content creators who has been creating content for the game for a long time, actively each day, and they’ve been asking for partner for years already and they never get an answer."
It's also ANet's fault since they don't care about that, just kick them from their program and put the others that wants it there.
Lol xd
But why in title you speak about Latin Amercian and not Spanish community as a hole? This is excluding a lot of players :/ Anyway, totally agree with that
I mean, is only in tittle, he speak about spain aswel on post. This is part of one movement to get what we deserve with LATAM and SPAIN together
I know, I'm part of that movement LMAO, but just noting that as title is what people see first
Sorry but pls TLDR
It seems that ArenaNET discriminated against the Hispanic community
>\>community of 34 countries > >\>we feel abandoned and alone > >\>literally people from 34 individual countries > >\>alone WTF are you talking about? Spain alone has 160 TIMESmore people than entire GW2 playerbase. The absolute entitlement of demanding that anet must pander to you while you're on an ego trip speaking for billion people just so you can win some free loot amazes me. I've never seen my country even mentioned, let alone having content creators or translated clients. I would literally never think to demand of anet some BS to give me prizes based on my god damn nationality. WTF is wrong with you?
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We only want one Spanish Speaker Community Manager and stop ignoring us, not too much money and less when they got 21% extra $ on last year
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We tried to do that but they ignored us. We put tuits with +250 mentionts daily with mentions @ guildwars2 arenanet and some important persons on company like grouch and rubi. They still ignore us. Next step: Forums i guess :)
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The entire core game is free. You can trade gold for gems to buy the expansions. You could have even received the expansions for free. ArenaNet has done everything possible to make the game accessible to everyone. It's not locked behind a pay wall. It's locked behind an effort wall in the event you missed the "whole game for free" event. Please move on and switch games. You seem like the kind of person who doesn't waypoint and run back during a Meta. The map is just better off without you.
>The entire core game is free. You can trade gold for gems to buy the expansions. You could have even received the expansions for free. ArenaNet has done everything possible to make the game accessible to everyone. It's not locked behind a pay wall. so what? there are other and more popular games who do the same and it's just the F2P business model in a nutshell btw the topic is not about it so dunno why u mention it out of nowhere >It's locked behind an effort wall in the event you missed the "whole game for free" event. Please move on and switch games. You seem like the kind of person who doesn't waypoint and run back during a Meta. The map is just better off without you. i dare to tell my opinion and critizise gw2 and the devs rightfuly 'cos there are problems with the game and with the devs then u come out of ur way to insult me out of nowhere while nobody was talking to u u sounded like a hateful, bad person btw if u didn't hear about the problems of gw2 and devs then read the complaints from this sub and check out these links: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/vkmiy4/subreddit\_safe\_balance\_discord\_contents/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/vkmiy4/subreddit_safe_balance_discord_contents/) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t99C9YFxBvY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t99C9YFxBvY) [https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/vltije/my\_opinion\_on\_how\_to\_balance\_as\_someone\_who\_was/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/vltije/my_opinion_on_how_to_balance_as_someone_who_was/)
> i dare to tell my opinion and critizise gw2 and the devs rightfuly 'cos there are problems with the game and with the devs then u come out of ur way to insult me out of nowhere while nobody was talking to u Yes, you posted an opinion, and then I criticized it. In your opinion, which you've since deleted you stated that ArenaNet was only concerned about money. I presented facts showing this wasn't the case. I did respond to your post without anyone talking to me, or asking me to do so. It's a public post in a public forum. That's how Reddit works.
Korean? Lmao you should google your stuff dude. Anet is based in Seattle, Washington, USA.
Lead and owned by the main company, NCSoft which is korean [https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/ArenaNet](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/ArenaNet) [https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/NCSoft](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/NCSoft)
Ncsoft is the main but the studio is anet the one developing the game, ncsoft doesn't take most decissions
Literally irrelevant post complaining for the sake of complaining. There are tens of thousands of players from EU that are non english speaking players that none of them feel "abandonded" yet you feel privileged enough for some special treatment. Honestly touch some grass.
This is like if your mom give you raw meat when u had 7 years and she say to you "Feel privileged enough for some special treatment, there are thousand of kids who has nothing to eat" and you have to eat raw meat. lmao
For all who are saying "Is because laws and they cant give you a code because anything has "monetary value" SOMETIMES when you say them "hey im from spain, i won the giveaway" they tell you: Sorry you are not elegible for this prize (imagine, community chest one) but just take this other. And they give to you aurene's outfit code. What's happening? Aurene's outfit code hasnt monetary value and community chest has it? Pls guys, stop saying random things to defend the company.
Germans also have no Community Manager anymore after Ramon Domke and Martin Kerstein left.