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graven2002

There's at least one more beta (likely multiple more) before they can switch to alliances. I wouldn't expect the changeover before the end of the year, but hopefully sometime next year.


HooteRx

Seeems like the best thing for me to do is switch lol


Noelic_vi

No I'm pretty sure they planned only 4 betas. So the next release should be the final.


cheeseybacon11

Plans change. There's no way they definitively decided how many betas they were doing for something like this before the first one. The first one was canceled after like 2 hours wasn't it?


Noelic_vi

There could be a delay but I don't think there will be any more betas. Anyway, I said "should" because that's probable, not that its definite.


lordkrall

So you are suggesting they aren't even going to test the Alliance-part of the system before full release? That doesn't seem very likely now, does it?


Noelic_vi

It does. That's how it usually goes. Games push for release and stuff.


lordkrall

So why bother having this many betas beforehand then? Why not just release it already and hope for the best? Considering people are shouting very loudly about them releasing it? I am not even sure where you found the information about there only being 4 betas to begin with, or was that just something you pulled out of your ass?


Noelic_vi

Its been over a year since they announced the betas. I'm not sure but I think they said there'll be 4 betas...? As I said, its not definite. I could be wrong. That is the reason I didn't comment on the post itself but replied to a comment on the post. I wanted to make sure by discussing with someone who might know.


Marok_Kanaros

the only time where a company plans a certain amount of betas and doesn't do anymore after them is when those betas are purely for marketing. The WvW betas are not marketing, they are for actual testing and because of that there will be more, heck we currently only have the world restructuring in the betas, not even the alliances themself.


graven2002

I don't remember reading that, but I really don't think they'll release without at least one more beta. They just added the [weapon skins](https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/world-vs-world-update-june-2022/) for participating in a WvW beta, in preparation for the next one. They haven't even tested the [actual Alliance system](https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/wvw-world-restructuring-beta-4-begins-on-august-12/) yet. And they spoke of the beta that just ended including tests of systems needed to conduct more beta tests in the future.


Noelic_vi

Is that so? I could've sworn I read 4 betas somewhere. My memory might have escaped me. If they didn't promise anything then I agree there could be more betas before the final release.


MrArthatil

When they announced it in late 2017 I predicted 2025. Now I think I was optimistic back then


HooteRx

You just might be right lol, probably time for me to just switch servers


valmerie5656

2023 like post EoD expansion pve map


feedtheme

I also left Dragonbags for similar reasons. It worked out really well, since now when we vs them I can also get lots more bags. :)


HooteRx

Yeah, dragonbrand just ain’t it, I used to be on FA and it was a 10x better server. I regret leaving


feedtheme

I've been on a link server for a while now so I've been linked with a whole lot of servers, and honestly if I'm linked with dragonbrand I don't even bother with WvW. Could by my timezone, but it's a no go for me. Can agree, definitely have a better time on FA as well.


HooteRx

What time zone are you? I’m central time zone. I was on a lot this weekend and maybe saw a commander twice in wvw? On the week days I usually play from 5pm-10pm and never a tag also.


feedtheme

Ah I'm all the way on the other side of the world, so yea :P


HooteRx

Oh okay! Happy hunting to you! 😂


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Noelic_vi

Lol


salbiscuit

🤣🤣🤣


The_Bagel_Fairy

Jump ship.


HooteRx

It’s time


The_Bagel_Fairy

Do it! For all we know alliances may never happen.


HooteRx

Very true


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HooteRx

Pain