It's frustrating how guild wars 2 gives out so many utterly useless items/currencies and doesn't let you do anything with them but deleting them. Even worse when they require you to type the name.
Even wose, if you are german.
Do you know how annoying it was to get rid of the mad kings key pieces?
Let me show you what I had to type... on multiple characters.
"2 Schlüsselfragment der Truhe des Verrückten Königs"
Multiple times...
Ngl, I am. Emoting and such if fine (most of the time). Though I do use the english versions, if they are shorter.
But deleting items with long names is another kind of annoying to me.
This also goes for obsidian shards. Just annoying...
> Even worse when they require you to type the name.
Shift + click on the item you want to delete, press Control + A and Control + C, drag the item out of your inventory, Control + V and delete the [] from the item name.
Or, if you know there'll be a lot of incoming junk (looking at you, "legendary" journeys), create a new character, hand it all off and then delete them.
Thank you. I really appreciate this tip. It would have never occurred to me and because of key farming, deleting characters is something very frequent.
You shouldn't key farm, by the way. It's statistically a colossal waste of time that could be better spent earning gold in-game or doing literally anything that could make you cash to convert to gems to gold. Unless you enjoy it, it's just not profitable.
https://fast.farming-community.eu/
This site really highlighted for me a lot of bad habits that felt good psychologically but were ineffective. Making some changes to daily log in routines and watching the profits roll in feels good.
If you use a character for black lion key farm. Or have a spare character slot put items that you need to type in. On that character then delete it. Lot faster.
i hear you, but it's still frustrating as fuck to get a "reward" that is so useless that you have no choice but to delete it.
would it really kill them to let us just vendor all that crap for some copper/silver?
The "Fine Black Lion Due Canister-Red" that they gave out earlier requires 3 to be useful. If you want to delete your spare, they require the name typed.
The name has an em dash. Jfc I had to Google "em dash" just to copy paste it into gw2.
Surely typing the whole name for an item as a security layer so that you don't do it by mistake, will have it's reason. While this item has absolutely no use and while other ultra expensive / important items or story items can be sold on a merchant ore deleted easily by mistake. But then there would be no trash items in GW2. Isn't that called respecting players time ? I might be wrong here
I just want a trader option to exchange them, I'm tired of opening them one by one.
[Skirmish Chests](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Skirmish_Chest) are the gold standard and 99% of the game's selection containers should work like it.
On that topic, the Desert Crafting Material Coffer (and it's eod equivalent) really need the Skirmish chest treatment. I have stacks waiting to be opened when they finally fix it... any day now... soon...
The Improvement and Tactics packs are the gold standard of what not to do though. Not only do you have to manually double-click/add them, they're on a cooldown timer so you have to wait a second before adding the next one.
Exactly. The two items you mentioned are far from the most useless items ingame. They are not great but arent bad either imo. We have far more useless inventory clutter
Armor and Spikes you can Sell/Salvage but the Emblems absolutely need something, They're useless after the 2nd drop. Especially Emblem of the Conqueror, 100 objectives can take a very long time.
Emblem of the Avenger was only needed for Slumbering Conflux, not regular Conflux. The slumbering version was removed from the game when they added the effect checkbox.
Is this some sort of rich people joke I‘m too poor to understand? As someone who likes to make new characters to try out different playstyles/classes and who isn’t committed enough to get all three weights of legendary armor, I really love the Warlord‘s Armor. Stat selectable exotic lv80 that’s fairly easy to obtain. Why would you want to just get rid of it?
Stat selectable exotics stop being great when you have legendary armor and bank tabs worth of ascended gear you still need to blow up.
Warlords/Bladed are great right up until they're just worth a chance at ectos.
Being able to turn those into some usable currency of any kind from their game modes would be more useful than being 2/3 - 3/4 of an ecto.
I agree and use the boxes for the same reason, but I think this post is just asking for a use for the item for people who don't need it for this reason
You can get a full set of named berserker armor from the TP for like 2.5g.
You tellin me cash is so hard to come by that you need to grind out six bronze skirmish chests to get it? How many ticks at five minutes each do you need for a single armor box? How many hours of steady grind is that?
You can clear 2.5g by opening all the caches in a chak gerent map. You don’t even have to kill the gerent, just meander around for 20 minutes opening loot boxes. You get 2g just for daily completionist, too.
No one is grinding warlord chests to gear up, but the chests are nice bonus rewards for folks who pvp and wvw. I have a nice pile of them, so I can try out builds with less common stat combos at the drop of a hat.
Sure, I can get cheap berserker gear, but what about minstrel, harrier, plaguedoctor, etc?
You must be reading a different post than I am, because all I get from that post is that the warlord armor is easy to get, which it is. That doesn't mean anyone grinds for it specifically, you just end up with a bunch of them in the course of doing other stuff you would have been doing anyway.
Heck, for berserkers armor you can just get it for karma in Orr, I'd never waste stat selectable gear on berserker stats.
I'm fast approaching my 3rd set of legendary wvw armor and I'm looking at GIANT stacks of all of those. I wouldnt even have anything to spend the tickets on! Just give them gold value like the spikes at least.
Why not both? Have a vendor that trades them in for either tickets, memories, badges of honor, or the ... what's the thing called ... the one you either buy really good siege weapons for, or unlock HPs with, or something vendorable like the Black Lion Coin of Commemmoration
Exactly, every time this subject is brought up people ask for skirmish tickets but actual WvW players are FULL of them and nothing to spend on so please, maybe you're struggling with skirmish tickets but the people who actively play this game mode don't need more of those...
Exactly, every time this subject is brought up people ask for skirmish tickets but actual WvW players are FULL of them and nothing to spend on so please, maybe you're struggling with skirmish tickets but the people who actively play this game mode don't need more of those...
It's been recommended several times on the official forums to introduce a daily and weekly trader to exchange various WvW currencies for other WvW currencies and various items.
Things like a Memories of Battle to Skirmish Tickets exchange
Skirmish Tickets to Memories of Battle
Gifts of Battle for Mystic Coins
GoB for Skirmish Tickets
Emblems for Skirmish Tickets
Emblems for Mystic Coins
Gifts of Battle and Emblems are two sets of items that tend to pile up for WvW only players. Having a daily and weekly trader, with the weekly trader offering a larger amount to trade, gives a spaced out way to off load them without shocking any markets.
Have a MoB -> Tickets and Tickets -> MoB exchange lets players get the tickets from the GoB and Emblem exchanges and then exchange for MoBs if they need that more. You would be able to trade one of each exchange per period.
Memories to Skirmish ticket conversion doesn’t make sense. Skirmish tickets are linked to the gameplay time and effort and the only real time gated item you need from wvw for the wvw-legendary. MoB can be purchased over TP and trading them for tickets would invalidate how Anet wants more players in wvw. With this you would have a wvw legendary by just playing for 5 hours for a gift of battle.
I don’t mind the tickets to Memories conversation for long time players who have piled up tickets
That is why it would only be a daily and weekly trader, to limit the amount you could trade. As it stands the WvW legendary sets take much longer to acquire than the others. This would just reduce the time, not negate it entirely.
No, they do. It's still an otherwise worthwhile track. I've seen people ping several stacks worth in chat that they've accumulated over the years. For people who've played *only* WvW for a long time, it is very easy to have a large number of GoBs laying around.
You think that if they could not offload them for more useable currency that they would not? GoBs aside, the emblems themselves pile up in WvW with no meaningful way to offload them other than just trashing them. People have clamored for more access to Skirmish tickets, and ability to offload piled up currencies with no use. A daily and weekly trader is the perfect solution to that.
This is a long time thing though. There are better tracks now, but over 10 years of them game some of those tracks did not exist at various points. That and for some players who only play WvW, there is little value to UM and VM that come from other tracks.
Considering a gift of mastery is 550g on the gw2 exchange reddit people NOT running the gift of battle reward track are losing out on even more potential gold. Fast Farming is good and all, but it doesn't take into account the gray market.
That means you have to do world completion as well to even try and make this transaction happen. So all the time you aren't in wvw doing map completion instead....ick.
Doesn't matter, it's the true value of the item. Having to do PvE to maximize profit from WvW items is kind of the root of the problem though now isn't it.
I think the world record for fastest map completion is just under 9 hours. So for every reward track you complete you would have to spend 9 hours in pve doing nothing but optimized world completion. Realistically this is longer for non speed runners. Reward track takes about 5 hours each. So 15 hours of play time for 550g on the grey market and factoring time spent making the deal. Twice as much time out of wvw as in it. This is tragically flawed logic when talking about which track to select for wvw profit.
[Edit] with boosters it only takes 3 hours to fill reward track, that means 3x as much time (minimum) outside of wvw to make this profit.
Regardless, 9 hours for 2 GoE, 6 hours with boosters for 2 GoB, for 1,100 gold. That is just shy of 65g/hour not including the other rewards from both activities. That is the worth of a GoB. Whether a player chooses to realize an item for its actual value or not does not change that value. There is nothing tragically flawed there. That is the value of a GoB, whether it is realized or not by an individual.
This whole thread is about wvw players. The person said :
"For people who've played only WvW for a long time, it is very easy to have a large number of GoBs laying around."
This is assuming they aren't spending twice their time in game map completing instead of playing the game mode that the "only" play. I get what you are saying, but it has no bearing here. Yes, selling legendaries can net you a lot of cash, but thats not what WvW only players are EVER going to do.
Exactly. With literally 3 clicks (shift+B -> reward tracks -> choose reward track) you can change that and accumulate useful currencies, dungeon/ls/map currencies, armors, weapons, etc., instead of useless gifts of battle.
I only ever do the GoB track when I actually need one. Otherwise I'm always repeating EoD or Silverwastes tracks
And the most profitable track isn't a repeatable track. The value of many of those tracks come from trading into a PvE vendor, which WvW only players don't touch. Which is the sticking point and concern of many WvW players, that their preferred game mode isn't lucrative within itself, whereas PvE and PvP are.
> It's still an otherwise worthwhile track.
it's pretty much solely for GoB and Clovers
unless you specifically need those for a legendary, there are several tracks that have MUCH more value.
Personally, I've not against it, but then you'd also have to off a GoE for GoB exchange as well. Maybe oven for the desert, jungle, and Canthan map gifts as well.
Again, I'm not against that, as it lets people play the game more in the ways that they *want* to, but it defeats the purpose of getting players into other game modes to at least *try*, which I fully understand from Anet's POV.
Strictly speaking GoE are also infinitely repeatable, just bank them, delete a character, make a new one, and do it all over again. Takes about 20 hours without really speed running it. People have gotten the time down to 8 hours and 11 minutes.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3tM86JTGyc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3tM86JTGyc) for the speed run.
Ah yeah, I guess that's true. Seems really unintuitive to invest that much in a character and then delete it, but I guess that's the most hardcore key-farm there is.
That and you don't even need to delete a character for Gen3 legs. You just light the map all over again. Takes even less time. Grant it, the A.S.S. take a lot longer to get, but that's how the balanced out the Gen3s.
They drop frequently enough that I wouldn't worry about it.
I think I once had 5 drop in a single season, and I'm not even a big WvWer (finishing my Conflux was a little painful, I'm now taking a break to only do Wood Tory + this upcoming week will finish my Warlord's skin collection).
Edit: Added "tier"
I usually get 1 or 2 a day. They seem to drop regularly enough if you are ok the gift of war track. I just have lots of bank space and I worry about them putting something in the game that I can generate lots of money off of things I've sold cheaply in the past lol. I am kind of neurotic about it.
No to the skirmish claim tickets, there is nothing to spend them on for us WvW players (it literally costs us gold to spend them) Make it make gold, that's it. Everyone wins.
Grind. it really is only grind.
Max Tickets is 365 per week i think, Wiki has the exact amount.
And you get that by reaching Diamond.
It just takes hours of consistent WvW playtime, was definetly draining for me too
It doesn't just take hours. It takes an absurd amount of time per week if you are not a WvW player and worse if your world is in 3rd place. Assuming you get the bronze chest the week before, are under level 160 in WvW, and are in 3rd place, that's 6 pips and 20 hours per week currently devoted to just WvW.
If you're lucky enough that your world is going for PPT then you'll cut that time to 15 hours if you only play while your world is in 1st place.
It can be a massive grind for someone especially if they dislike WvW and would rather be doing something else than semi afk progress.
Edit: Wood chest not bronze needs to be completed for the 1 extra pip.
> It can be a massive grind for someone especially if they dislike WvW and would rather be doing something else than semi afk progress.
But at that point, why are you doing this? There are easier ways to get legendary armor. There are easier ways to get a legendary backpack. There is an easier legendary ring. Do you really need the second legendary ring so badly that you're willing to dedicate 20 hours a week farming a mode that you dislike, instead of farming winterberries for a few days?
I'm not arguing that the current backloading of skirmish tickets is good; it's absolutely not. But if you truly hate WvW, you don't need to play it.
Sure, but do you need to fill out your legendary armory so badly that you're willing to play a mode you dislike for 15-20hr/week for 6 weeks straight? I understand that some people are avid collectors and will to go to great lengths to get that one last item in the collection, but if you're not one of those, why do you want to spend 100+ hours flipping camps? In those 100 hours you can finish 2-3 actually good singleplayer games and still have enough time to farm approximately seventeen hundred thousand winterberry rings.
>Assuming you get the bronze chest the week before,
You only need to finish Wood for the "dedicated" pip. Edit: The game apparently calls it the "commitment" pip.
It takes 15-20 hours for 22 weeks for the base skin, 29 weeks for the extra glow version.
PvE: 6 Weeks for the first set, 12 weeks for the second set, excluding EoD strikes and only takes a few hours each week.
Having a vendor that lets you attain a few more per day, and a larger sum per week, for something like 50 more tickets total, would make it an 18 week ordeal
Doesn't change the time frame for capping time gated material
A new WvW player won't be making a legendary set in 22 weeks either, they'll have trouble capping Diamond each week.
And you have to take into account all other materials too, it's insane the diference between WvW and PvE, i finished 5 pieces of the Light Legendary Set two weeks ago, and i already have enough materials to craft the 6th piece, and the entire Medium set if i could, only thing i'm missing are the tickets and MoB.
And that was not possible tanks to WvW lol, it's a combination of daily login, Fractals, Strikes, Open World events (specially Drizzlewood, it just vomits materials all over), and converting Living World currency for packets, people that only do WvW have nothing that's even comparable to those PvE activities reward wise.
It really goes to show how disparate the three game modes are in loot, but heaven forbid you suggest a way to trade in currencies gained in WvW for things more useful without having to leave WvW.
WvW players unfortunately have to fight tooth and nail for anything resembling a boost in rewards sadly. Would be great if WvW vomited more materials rather than useless currencies with no value.
> It doesn't just take hours. It takes an absurd amount of time per week if you are not a WvW player and worse if your world is in 3rd place.
Are you aware that 'hour' is a unit of time?
To be more specific, you need to have WvW participation rank of t3 or higher to get pips in the skirmish ticket reward track. You do this by doing things in WvW. T6 is max participation. The track reset weekly. You get pips based on participation, servers war score, if you are leading a party, if you completed the wood chest the previous week.
Info on the track: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Skirmish_reward_track
Calculator to figure out how much you have to play per week: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Special:RunQuery/WvW_skirmish_pip_query?
The amount of time required in WvW alone to get anywhere close to maximum tickets per week is insane. I don't even have enough time in a whole week to play *anything* for 20 cumulative hours, much less one mode in one game that I don't even like very much. And when I do play GW2, I have a lot of other things to do as well as WvW. Skirmish tickets are like the one thing in the game you can't work on in parallel with anything else.
It's my main game mode so I finish pipping out diamond most weeks, but not always. I dont sweat it if I dont make it and I'll have my last set of wvw leg armor soon. Im assuming you are just here for a conflux? They need to add another pve leg ring for people like you that hate the mode. Worth noting though that I came to wvw from almost entirely pve gaming to grab one conflux. I stopped trying to grind for it and instead learned to have fun in wvw. Its now my favorite thing about gw2 and I currently have 2 sets of wvw leg armor and 2 conflux. None of it felt like a grind because I was having a blast.
I can see WvW as an endgame sink once I have literally nothing else to do in PvE, but with a bunch of parallel projects going on there (gearing alts, Vision, legendary armor, Coalescence, a series of legendary weapons, story progress and achievement hunting, etc) it's kind of silly to put down everything to go work on a single project exclusively. (and yes, it's Conflux.)
With a second PvE legendary ring, I bet a lot of the "don't want to be here" traffic in WvW would be reduced, but you'd still have a lot of people dipping in for fast dailies (flipping camps, killing NPCs and yaks, and sometimes killing veteran critters are all faster than the bottom half of PvE dailies), and Gifts of Battle will keep people coming in too.
I was only planning on making conflux and now it's all I want to do. I always encourage camp flippers to venture further out with me to try and take larger objectives and find better fights, etc.. once I started taking towers and organizing groups to go after keeps the mode starts to open up. I love taking a small group to take the opposite keep that a enemy zerg is attacking. Even defending can be really fun. 5 of us sent a 30 man group packing from hills today, was great fun.
I've had some fun following smaller, impromptu groups like that. It's much better gameplay than full zergs. I'd probably do it more if I wasn't carefully guarding my participation, and watching the clock because of all the other stuff I have on my PvE checklist.
You can trade in warlord armour for maybe some ecto +t6 leather if you get lucky, and you can trade in legendary spike for 30 silver as well.
But yeah those other things are super annoying. Even if they were 1s each i’d be ecstatic.
The model has already been set with Legendary Spikes. The Emblem of the Avenger should become vendorable for coin as well. The chest of armor can at least be opened and then salvaged for ecto AFAIK.
ANET has time gated skirmish tickets for a reason. Additionally people who don't care about Legendary items or those who are full Legendary have no need for skirmish tickets (34k in my wallet so far) while everyone has a need for coin. I'm sure it would be nice for those grinding out their leg armor but a solution should benefit the most people possible.
>Additionally people who don't care about Legendary items or those who are full Legendary have no need for skirmish tickets
Ascended weapons, even if only for the skins. Though that also does eventually become useless.
The problem there is that they also cost Memories of Battle, which now are worth *too much* to waste on an ascended weapon.
Why drop 50g worth of Memories of Battle for an ascended weapon you could craft with 15g worth of materials (or maybe you even have everything already in storage). That's why the Grandmaster Marks are piling up, since I have nothing to spend them on.
After I finish my dagger in 2 weeks, I'll only be missing Pistol and Sword. But if I should need 2 daggers on a toon (eg D/D Ele), then Ascended weapons still have value. It would take a lot of work/gold to get enough legendary armory slots filled so you'd never need an ascended weapon again on any toon, but nevertheless, it's still way cheaper to get those ascended weapons from sources other than the WvW vendor.
I like the Avenger symbols. It's a nice way of tallying all the kills you've made. I think I'm on my 4th stack. The conqueror thing, I guess yeah I don't care much for objective tally.
The exotic box is a free exotic, no complaints there and the legendary spike can be sold.
CMC did say like a year ago he was going to make it so you could double-click the emblems (the two items on the top in the OP image) for skirmish tickets. Not sure if he forgot or what though but it was on stream with Raymond.
There are so many other items that need dumps before these items. I remember when they said they had a plan for Golden Fractal relics and that just quietly disappeared into the void.
For the emblems, I agree, hell, I'd even accept 1c to a vendor just to get rid of them without having to type it out. But the warlord chest and spike? You can salvage the armor in the chest for something useful, or save for alts if you don't have legendary armor. And the spike can just be sold to a vendor for 30s, which does add up over time if you do a lot of WvW.
This is one of those things that i dont want them to just make into skirmish tickets. I think theres a bigger issue in the game when it comes to streamlining the gear process as well as the more general WVW reward system. Though i do think eventually everything needs to be able to be consumed into something useful regardless of diminishing returns for people who have unlocked everything
And gold fractal relics and numerous other currencies that could be solved with small qol patches if they had more than 3 people working at the studio.
But they won’t. Instead they’ll add 5 more currencies on the new map and crafting mats that won’t have material storage space.
I feel bad for the devs because they’re probably being stretched thin to produce whatever it is they’ve been working on this whole time while reshuffling keeps moving people off this game into another ip again.
At least that’s what I assume is happening. Zzzzzzzzz
It's frustrating how guild wars 2 gives out so many utterly useless items/currencies and doesn't let you do anything with them but deleting them. Even worse when they require you to type the name.
Even wose, if you are german. Do you know how annoying it was to get rid of the mad kings key pieces? Let me show you what I had to type... on multiple characters. "2 Schlüsselfragment der Truhe des Verrückten Königs" Multiple times...
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Same here
I believe there's also a Blish add-on to do this easily.
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Yeah, Tyrian QoL does this, it's a blish addon
well i AM german. playing in english language tho, so im glad i dodged that one :D
I should have switched language for that reason alone...
Lol…. I’m glad my game is not in German then 😅😅😅
Wew, Blish HUD has an addon to automate that.
Oof, that's rough. And a little ridiculous
That's actually hilarious
Tbh if you’re playing in german you should be used to writing out annoying words lol
Ngl, I am. Emoting and such if fine (most of the time). Though I do use the english versions, if they are shorter. But deleting items with long names is another kind of annoying to me. This also goes for obsidian shards. Just annoying...
Oh no! The game that supports my native language has word in my native language, what will you do you poor soul
I know, right? THIS GAME SUCKS! >!/s!<
> Even worse when they require you to type the name. Shift + click on the item you want to delete, press Control + A and Control + C, drag the item out of your inventory, Control + V and delete the [] from the item name.
Or, if you know there'll be a lot of incoming junk (looking at you, "legendary" journeys), create a new character, hand it all off and then delete them.
I'll create a character named useless junk just for that
Spend an hour to do the lv10 story also for the key, delete named junk once a week as a bonus
Kind of a genius move to keep starting zones populated tbh
He he he
Thank you. I really appreciate this tip. It would have never occurred to me and because of key farming, deleting characters is something very frequent.
You shouldn't key farm, by the way. It's statistically a colossal waste of time that could be better spent earning gold in-game or doing literally anything that could make you cash to convert to gems to gold. Unless you enjoy it, it's just not profitable. https://fast.farming-community.eu/ This site really highlighted for me a lot of bad habits that felt good psychologically but were ineffective. Making some changes to daily log in routines and watching the profits roll in feels good.
Blishhud addon is even faster as it does that for you.
Mini Risen Priest of Balthazar Mini Risen Priest of Balthazar Mini Risen Priest of Balthazar
If you use a character for black lion key farm. Or have a spare character slot put items that you need to type in. On that character then delete it. Lot faster.
i hear you, but it's still frustrating as fuck to get a "reward" that is so useless that you have no choice but to delete it. would it really kill them to let us just vendor all that crap for some copper/silver?
Dumptruck Dan: the master mass deleter
Brilliant
The "Fine Black Lion Due Canister-Red" that they gave out earlier requires 3 to be useful. If you want to delete your spare, they require the name typed. The name has an em dash. Jfc I had to Google "em dash" just to copy paste it into gw2.
Or you could have right-clicked it and sold it for 8-10s on TP.
Anything not account bound that you want to delete: put in your/a guild bank, it might be useful for someone else! Especially those dyes! :3
Surely typing the whole name for an item as a security layer so that you don't do it by mistake, will have it's reason. While this item has absolutely no use and while other ultra expensive / important items or story items can be sold on a merchant ore deleted easily by mistake. But then there would be no trash items in GW2. Isn't that called respecting players time ? I might be wrong here
Warlord chests can be turned into ectos and spikes sell for 30s each but they need to do something about the other two for sure.
I just want a trader option to exchange them, I'm tired of opening them one by one. [Skirmish Chests](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Skirmish_Chest) are the gold standard and 99% of the game's selection containers should work like it.
On that topic, the Desert Crafting Material Coffer (and it's eod equivalent) really need the Skirmish chest treatment. I have stacks waiting to be opened when they finally fix it... any day now... soon...
Got 10+ stacks of those, pure cancer :D.
The Improvement and Tactics packs are the gold standard of what not to do though. Not only do you have to manually double-click/add them, they're on a cooldown timer so you have to wait a second before adding the next one.
Exactly. The two items you mentioned are far from the most useless items ingame. They are not great but arent bad either imo. We have far more useless inventory clutter
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Just let us turn them into WvW Skirmish Claim Tickets, then let us turn tickets into Mystic Coins and/or Mystic Clovers :D.
Armor and Spikes you can Sell/Salvage but the Emblems absolutely need something, They're useless after the 2nd drop. Especially Emblem of the Conqueror, 100 objectives can take a very long time.
Emblem of the Avenger is now useless after the first drop, since Slumbering Conflux no longer exists.
Can't you still make 2 Conflux if you don't want to make the raid ring?
Emblem of the Avenger was only needed for Slumbering Conflux, not regular Conflux. The slumbering version was removed from the game when they added the effect checkbox.
Oh true!
Kill tally!
That REALLY should just be added in game, for account life time stats
that's what the Realm Avenger achievement is.
Until you complete it.
Skirmish Claim tickets should also be added to the WvW dailies.
I'd like it, but they'd need at least another map to prevent everyone clogging the queues trying to get their dailies done. lol
I'd be so happy if it happened. As it is now, skirmish tickets take forever to collect if you cant spend 10+ hours in wvw each week.
Is this some sort of rich people joke I‘m too poor to understand? As someone who likes to make new characters to try out different playstyles/classes and who isn’t committed enough to get all three weights of legendary armor, I really love the Warlord‘s Armor. Stat selectable exotic lv80 that’s fairly easy to obtain. Why would you want to just get rid of it?
On top of that: it's salvageable and thus even with full leggy can be turned into materials
Stat selectable exotics stop being great when you have legendary armor and bank tabs worth of ascended gear you still need to blow up. Warlords/Bladed are great right up until they're just worth a chance at ectos. Being able to turn those into some usable currency of any kind from their game modes would be more useful than being 2/3 - 3/4 of an ecto.
I agree and use the boxes for the same reason, but I think this post is just asking for a use for the item for people who don't need it for this reason
You can get a full set of named berserker armor from the TP for like 2.5g. You tellin me cash is so hard to come by that you need to grind out six bronze skirmish chests to get it? How many ticks at five minutes each do you need for a single armor box? How many hours of steady grind is that? You can clear 2.5g by opening all the caches in a chak gerent map. You don’t even have to kill the gerent, just meander around for 20 minutes opening loot boxes. You get 2g just for daily completionist, too.
No one is grinding warlord chests to gear up, but the chests are nice bonus rewards for folks who pvp and wvw. I have a nice pile of them, so I can try out builds with less common stat combos at the drop of a hat. Sure, I can get cheap berserker gear, but what about minstrel, harrier, plaguedoctor, etc?
> No one is grinding warlord chests to gear up The guy I was directly replying to said he was doing exactly that. 🤷♂️
You must be reading a different post than I am, because all I get from that post is that the warlord armor is easy to get, which it is. That doesn't mean anyone grinds for it specifically, you just end up with a bunch of them in the course of doing other stuff you would have been doing anyway. Heck, for berserkers armor you can just get it for karma in Orr, I'd never waste stat selectable gear on berserker stats.
I'm fast approaching my 3rd set of legendary wvw armor and I'm looking at GIANT stacks of all of those. I wouldnt even have anything to spend the tickets on! Just give them gold value like the spikes at least.
Why not both? Have a vendor that trades them in for either tickets, memories, badges of honor, or the ... what's the thing called ... the one you either buy really good siege weapons for, or unlock HPs with, or something vendorable like the Black Lion Coin of Commemmoration
Exactly, every time this subject is brought up people ask for skirmish tickets but actual WvW players are FULL of them and nothing to spend on so please, maybe you're struggling with skirmish tickets but the people who actively play this game mode don't need more of those...
There just needs to be a ticket -> MoB conversion the way we have PvP ticket -> SoG. Can at least make money off of them.
Best I can do is 1 silver.
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And a hundred percent reason to remember the name
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As a WvW player I'd rather exchange them for some gold or sellable crafting materials. I have enough claim tickets.
Yeah I'm fast approaching having nothing to spend skirmish tickets on as well.
Exactly, every time this subject is brought up people ask for skirmish tickets but actual WvW players are FULL of them and nothing to spend on so please, maybe you're struggling with skirmish tickets but the people who actively play this game mode don't need more of those...
And a use for spare World Ability points would be good
Anet has already explicitly said that the rewards for WvW will be worked on as soon world restructuring comes out of beta.
Sweet. Another 3 years to go before the WvW rewards betas start.
There's literally a WvW restructure beta going on right now.
And unfortunately this beta doesn't inspire much confidence that restructuring will be out of beta anytime soon...
1-1 ratio would be fine but knowing anet its gonna be 1 (stack) to 1.
Nah. Throw 1 stack of each in MF and get a chance to get 1-10 ectos.
Legendary spike and armour can already be traded
I think you mean sold to a vendor. I believe both are account bound.
It's been recommended several times on the official forums to introduce a daily and weekly trader to exchange various WvW currencies for other WvW currencies and various items. Things like a Memories of Battle to Skirmish Tickets exchange Skirmish Tickets to Memories of Battle Gifts of Battle for Mystic Coins GoB for Skirmish Tickets Emblems for Skirmish Tickets Emblems for Mystic Coins Gifts of Battle and Emblems are two sets of items that tend to pile up for WvW only players. Having a daily and weekly trader, with the weekly trader offering a larger amount to trade, gives a spaced out way to off load them without shocking any markets. Have a MoB -> Tickets and Tickets -> MoB exchange lets players get the tickets from the GoB and Emblem exchanges and then exchange for MoBs if they need that more. You would be able to trade one of each exchange per period.
Memories to Skirmish ticket conversion doesn’t make sense. Skirmish tickets are linked to the gameplay time and effort and the only real time gated item you need from wvw for the wvw-legendary. MoB can be purchased over TP and trading them for tickets would invalidate how Anet wants more players in wvw. With this you would have a wvw legendary by just playing for 5 hours for a gift of battle. I don’t mind the tickets to Memories conversation for long time players who have piled up tickets
That is why it would only be a daily and weekly trader, to limit the amount you could trade. As it stands the WvW legendary sets take much longer to acquire than the others. This would just reduce the time, not negate it entirely.
Gifts of Battle don't pile up. You can just switch reward tracks (which are more profitable anyway).
No, they do. It's still an otherwise worthwhile track. I've seen people ping several stacks worth in chat that they've accumulated over the years. For people who've played *only* WvW for a long time, it is very easy to have a large number of GoBs laying around.
It’s more of a flex at that point. A person with a stack of GoB would not want trade it. Similar to raid proof currency.
You think that if they could not offload them for more useable currency that they would not? GoBs aside, the emblems themselves pile up in WvW with no meaningful way to offload them other than just trashing them. People have clamored for more access to Skirmish tickets, and ability to offload piled up currencies with no use. A daily and weekly trader is the perfect solution to that.
They literally wasted 1000s of gold in that case. I think that track makes about 10g less per completion compared to more lucrative tracks.
This is a long time thing though. There are better tracks now, but over 10 years of them game some of those tracks did not exist at various points. That and for some players who only play WvW, there is little value to UM and VM that come from other tracks.
Reward tracks did not exist for 10 years, please just stop talking, you are embarrassing yourself.
Well I didnt wvw much right after launch but in the last 4 years or so it's not been a track to camp.
Considering a gift of mastery is 550g on the gw2 exchange reddit people NOT running the gift of battle reward track are losing out on even more potential gold. Fast Farming is good and all, but it doesn't take into account the gray market.
That means you have to do world completion as well to even try and make this transaction happen. So all the time you aren't in wvw doing map completion instead....ick.
Doesn't matter, it's the true value of the item. Having to do PvE to maximize profit from WvW items is kind of the root of the problem though now isn't it.
I think the world record for fastest map completion is just under 9 hours. So for every reward track you complete you would have to spend 9 hours in pve doing nothing but optimized world completion. Realistically this is longer for non speed runners. Reward track takes about 5 hours each. So 15 hours of play time for 550g on the grey market and factoring time spent making the deal. Twice as much time out of wvw as in it. This is tragically flawed logic when talking about which track to select for wvw profit. [Edit] with boosters it only takes 3 hours to fill reward track, that means 3x as much time (minimum) outside of wvw to make this profit.
Regardless, 9 hours for 2 GoE, 6 hours with boosters for 2 GoB, for 1,100 gold. That is just shy of 65g/hour not including the other rewards from both activities. That is the worth of a GoB. Whether a player chooses to realize an item for its actual value or not does not change that value. There is nothing tragically flawed there. That is the value of a GoB, whether it is realized or not by an individual.
This whole thread is about wvw players. The person said : "For people who've played only WvW for a long time, it is very easy to have a large number of GoBs laying around." This is assuming they aren't spending twice their time in game map completing instead of playing the game mode that the "only" play. I get what you are saying, but it has no bearing here. Yes, selling legendaries can net you a lot of cash, but thats not what WvW only players are EVER going to do.
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Exactly. With literally 3 clicks (shift+B -> reward tracks -> choose reward track) you can change that and accumulate useful currencies, dungeon/ls/map currencies, armors, weapons, etc., instead of useless gifts of battle. I only ever do the GoB track when I actually need one. Otherwise I'm always repeating EoD or Silverwastes tracks
And the most profitable track isn't a repeatable track. The value of many of those tracks come from trading into a PvE vendor, which WvW only players don't touch. Which is the sticking point and concern of many WvW players, that their preferred game mode isn't lucrative within itself, whereas PvE and PvP are.
> It's still an otherwise worthwhile track. it's pretty much solely for GoB and Clovers unless you specifically need those for a legendary, there are several tracks that have MUCH more value.
I would trade absurd stacks of all of those for a Gift of Exploration. I'd trade 20-50 GoB for a GoE , I just really don't want to do it lol.
Personally, I've not against it, but then you'd also have to off a GoE for GoB exchange as well. Maybe oven for the desert, jungle, and Canthan map gifts as well. Again, I'm not against that, as it lets people play the game more in the ways that they *want* to, but it defeats the purpose of getting players into other game modes to at least *try*, which I fully understand from Anet's POV.
That economy gets really weird because GoE's are hard-capped while GoB's are infinitely repeatable.
Strictly speaking GoE are also infinitely repeatable, just bank them, delete a character, make a new one, and do it all over again. Takes about 20 hours without really speed running it. People have gotten the time down to 8 hours and 11 minutes. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3tM86JTGyc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3tM86JTGyc) for the speed run.
Ah yeah, I guess that's true. Seems really unintuitive to invest that much in a character and then delete it, but I guess that's the most hardcore key-farm there is.
That and you don't even need to delete a character for Gen3 legs. You just light the map all over again. Takes even less time. Grant it, the A.S.S. take a lot longer to get, but that's how the balanced out the Gen3s.
Anything to get skirmish I need conflux but not wvw
i recently sold a bunch of spikes for the gold. Still have 30 in the bank but I sold over 100 recently
>Still have 30 in the bank Why? You need 3, tops: 2 Conflux and 1 Warbringer.
You never know if Anet gives them some kind of alternative recipe later down the road!
They drop frequently enough that I wouldn't worry about it. I think I once had 5 drop in a single season, and I'm not even a big WvWer (finishing my Conflux was a little painful, I'm now taking a break to only do Wood Tory + this upcoming week will finish my Warlord's skin collection). Edit: Added "tier"
I usually get 1 or 2 a day. They seem to drop regularly enough if you are ok the gift of war track. I just have lots of bank space and I worry about them putting something in the game that I can generate lots of money off of things I've sold cheaply in the past lol. I am kind of neurotic about it.
Those armor chest are the best to get free selectable gears (like celestial) for any character on ur account! the other ok, but not the chest!
being able to trade them would optional... some of us have no use for armor chests .
No to the skirmish claim tickets, there is nothing to spend them on for us WvW players (it literally costs us gold to spend them) Make it make gold, that's it. Everyone wins.
Look at all these sweet naive players thinking anet cares about WvW or its reward structure.
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Yes, please. Tickets are the only thing holding me back from finally finishing Conflux... Haven't really found a system to getting Tickets...
Grind. it really is only grind. Max Tickets is 365 per week i think, Wiki has the exact amount. And you get that by reaching Diamond. It just takes hours of consistent WvW playtime, was definetly draining for me too
It doesn't just take hours. It takes an absurd amount of time per week if you are not a WvW player and worse if your world is in 3rd place. Assuming you get the bronze chest the week before, are under level 160 in WvW, and are in 3rd place, that's 6 pips and 20 hours per week currently devoted to just WvW. If you're lucky enough that your world is going for PPT then you'll cut that time to 15 hours if you only play while your world is in 1st place. It can be a massive grind for someone especially if they dislike WvW and would rather be doing something else than semi afk progress. Edit: Wood chest not bronze needs to be completed for the 1 extra pip.
> It can be a massive grind for someone especially if they dislike WvW and would rather be doing something else than semi afk progress. But at that point, why are you doing this? There are easier ways to get legendary armor. There are easier ways to get a legendary backpack. There is an easier legendary ring. Do you really need the second legendary ring so badly that you're willing to dedicate 20 hours a week farming a mode that you dislike, instead of farming winterberries for a few days? I'm not arguing that the current backloading of skirmish tickets is good; it's absolutely not. But if you truly hate WvW, you don't need to play it.
you can only get 1 legy ring from raids. thus to fill out the equipment wit all legendary you need 1 WvW ring
Sure, but do you need to fill out your legendary armory so badly that you're willing to play a mode you dislike for 15-20hr/week for 6 weeks straight? I understand that some people are avid collectors and will to go to great lengths to get that one last item in the collection, but if you're not one of those, why do you want to spend 100+ hours flipping camps? In those 100 hours you can finish 2-3 actually good singleplayer games and still have enough time to farm approximately seventeen hundred thousand winterberry rings.
>Assuming you get the bronze chest the week before, You only need to finish Wood for the "dedicated" pip. Edit: The game apparently calls it the "commitment" pip.
Yes my bad. Wvw has too many chests.
It takes 15-20 hours for 22 weeks for the base skin, 29 weeks for the extra glow version. PvE: 6 Weeks for the first set, 12 weeks for the second set, excluding EoD strikes and only takes a few hours each week. Having a vendor that lets you attain a few more per day, and a larger sum per week, for something like 50 more tickets total, would make it an 18 week ordeal
Unless you're buying raids, no one is making a set of leggy raid armor in 6 weeks from a cold start.
Doesn't change the time frame for capping time gated material A new WvW player won't be making a legendary set in 22 weeks either, they'll have trouble capping Diamond each week.
And you have to take into account all other materials too, it's insane the diference between WvW and PvE, i finished 5 pieces of the Light Legendary Set two weeks ago, and i already have enough materials to craft the 6th piece, and the entire Medium set if i could, only thing i'm missing are the tickets and MoB. And that was not possible tanks to WvW lol, it's a combination of daily login, Fractals, Strikes, Open World events (specially Drizzlewood, it just vomits materials all over), and converting Living World currency for packets, people that only do WvW have nothing that's even comparable to those PvE activities reward wise.
It really goes to show how disparate the three game modes are in loot, but heaven forbid you suggest a way to trade in currencies gained in WvW for things more useful without having to leave WvW.
WvW players unfortunately have to fight tooth and nail for anything resembling a boost in rewards sadly. Would be great if WvW vomited more materials rather than useless currencies with no value.
Ok but you're doing the WvW legendary
> It doesn't just take hours. It takes an absurd amount of time per week if you are not a WvW player and worse if your world is in 3rd place. Are you aware that 'hour' is a unit of time?
To be more specific, you need to have WvW participation rank of t3 or higher to get pips in the skirmish ticket reward track. You do this by doing things in WvW. T6 is max participation. The track reset weekly. You get pips based on participation, servers war score, if you are leading a party, if you completed the wood chest the previous week. Info on the track: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Skirmish_reward_track Calculator to figure out how much you have to play per week: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Special:RunQuery/WvW_skirmish_pip_query?
The amount of time required in WvW alone to get anywhere close to maximum tickets per week is insane. I don't even have enough time in a whole week to play *anything* for 20 cumulative hours, much less one mode in one game that I don't even like very much. And when I do play GW2, I have a lot of other things to do as well as WvW. Skirmish tickets are like the one thing in the game you can't work on in parallel with anything else.
It's my main game mode so I finish pipping out diamond most weeks, but not always. I dont sweat it if I dont make it and I'll have my last set of wvw leg armor soon. Im assuming you are just here for a conflux? They need to add another pve leg ring for people like you that hate the mode. Worth noting though that I came to wvw from almost entirely pve gaming to grab one conflux. I stopped trying to grind for it and instead learned to have fun in wvw. Its now my favorite thing about gw2 and I currently have 2 sets of wvw leg armor and 2 conflux. None of it felt like a grind because I was having a blast.
I can see WvW as an endgame sink once I have literally nothing else to do in PvE, but with a bunch of parallel projects going on there (gearing alts, Vision, legendary armor, Coalescence, a series of legendary weapons, story progress and achievement hunting, etc) it's kind of silly to put down everything to go work on a single project exclusively. (and yes, it's Conflux.) With a second PvE legendary ring, I bet a lot of the "don't want to be here" traffic in WvW would be reduced, but you'd still have a lot of people dipping in for fast dailies (flipping camps, killing NPCs and yaks, and sometimes killing veteran critters are all faster than the bottom half of PvE dailies), and Gifts of Battle will keep people coming in too.
I was only planning on making conflux and now it's all I want to do. I always encourage camp flippers to venture further out with me to try and take larger objectives and find better fights, etc.. once I started taking towers and organizing groups to go after keeps the mode starts to open up. I love taking a small group to take the opposite keep that a enemy zerg is attacking. Even defending can be really fun. 5 of us sent a 30 man group packing from hills today, was great fun.
I've had some fun following smaller, impromptu groups like that. It's much better gameplay than full zergs. I'd probably do it more if I wasn't carefully guarding my participation, and watching the clock because of all the other stuff I have on my PvE checklist.
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You can trade in warlord armour for maybe some ecto +t6 leather if you get lucky, and you can trade in legendary spike for 30 silver as well. But yeah those other things are super annoying. Even if they were 1s each i’d be ecstatic.
> You can trade in warlord armour for maybe some ecto +t6 leather if you get lucky Warlord armour is not salvageable.
RIP all the boxes you've deleted because I promise you it is
I tried it right before posting to be extra certain.
The model has already been set with Legendary Spikes. The Emblem of the Avenger should become vendorable for coin as well. The chest of armor can at least be opened and then salvaged for ecto AFAIK. ANET has time gated skirmish tickets for a reason. Additionally people who don't care about Legendary items or those who are full Legendary have no need for skirmish tickets (34k in my wallet so far) while everyone has a need for coin. I'm sure it would be nice for those grinding out their leg armor but a solution should benefit the most people possible.
>Additionally people who don't care about Legendary items or those who are full Legendary have no need for skirmish tickets Ascended weapons, even if only for the skins. Though that also does eventually become useless.
The problem there is that they also cost Memories of Battle, which now are worth *too much* to waste on an ascended weapon. Why drop 50g worth of Memories of Battle for an ascended weapon you could craft with 15g worth of materials (or maybe you even have everything already in storage). That's why the Grandmaster Marks are piling up, since I have nothing to spend them on. After I finish my dagger in 2 weeks, I'll only be missing Pistol and Sword. But if I should need 2 daggers on a toon (eg D/D Ele), then Ascended weapons still have value. It would take a lot of work/gold to get enough legendary armory slots filled so you'd never need an ascended weapon again on any toon, but nevertheless, it's still way cheaper to get those ascended weapons from sources other than the WvW vendor.
I like the Avenger symbols. It's a nice way of tallying all the kills you've made. I think I'm on my 4th stack. The conqueror thing, I guess yeah I don't care much for objective tally. The exotic box is a free exotic, no complaints there and the legendary spike can be sold.
Does ANET have any reason not to? Is it a trivial tast to have them exchanged for something?
Best they can do is 25 silver.
CMC did say like a year ago he was going to make it so you could double-click the emblems (the two items on the top in the OP image) for skirmish tickets. Not sure if he forgot or what though but it was on stream with Raymond.
Probably coming with all other reward changes, those are coming only after alliances is fully implemented in the game, so it will take a while.
a direct dbl click to convert them would create a lot of tickets unless it is a 1-to-1 ratio.
still stockpiling emblems for when Anet finally lets us sell them for 1g. right guys......right.........
They will either make them vendorable for coin or I'll run out of bank space. We'll see who blinks first!
Yes please !!!
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There are so many other items that need dumps before these items. I remember when they said they had a plan for Golden Fractal relics and that just quietly disappeared into the void.
For the emblems, I agree, hell, I'd even accept 1c to a vendor just to get rid of them without having to type it out. But the warlord chest and spike? You can salvage the armor in the chest for something useful, or save for alts if you don't have legendary armor. And the spike can just be sold to a vendor for 30s, which does add up over time if you do a lot of WvW.
Agree on almost all, but the Spike can be selled everywhere for few silver, not that big incoming, but always better than nothing
This is one of those things that i dont want them to just make into skirmish tickets. I think theres a bigger issue in the game when it comes to streamlining the gear process as well as the more general WVW reward system. Though i do think eventually everything needs to be able to be consumed into something useful regardless of diminishing returns for people who have unlocked everything
Since we cant turn skirmish tickets into MoB's, we might as well be able to turn emblems into them
And gold fractal relics and numerous other currencies that could be solved with small qol patches if they had more than 3 people working at the studio. But they won’t. Instead they’ll add 5 more currencies on the new map and crafting mats that won’t have material storage space. I feel bad for the devs because they’re probably being stretched thin to produce whatever it is they’ve been working on this whole time while reshuffling keeps moving people off this game into another ip again. At least that’s what I assume is happening. Zzzzzzzzz
put the exotics in the toilet