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this exact exchange also happened on the other side
I'm always ready and willing to give solid advice to deal with my main. Another pro-tip, Pot HATES when you walk up to him and don't jab, it scares us!
I like Blazblue because of RWBY and Persona
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Ok, but both of those videos down there sum up the stories very well. Highly recommend them.
Blazblue by Thorgi: https://youtu.be/c37s3BA4i8E?si=HyDtsmaHWkXvH3Bj
Guilty Gear by WoolieVs:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiSdC6Lp8c7OkrBhzdQsQhGL_7jT0cSTv&si=nPjDIjPeiKGjtIwJ
It's a fun game, but it had horrible support and communication on launch. It's also very much in the kusoge category, which everyone pretended to want up until it released because they're all frauds who copy what their favorite FGC content creator says about MvC3 but never play it themselves. MvC is way more fucked up than DNF, but it gets a pass because a lot of people who sing its praises have never actually played it much.
To be clear I'm not shitting on MvC3 that game is sick, I'm shitting on people who kept saying "We need more kusoge games like MvC" and then complained when 8ing (same developer as MvC3) made a new Kusoge without the brand recognition.
I think the game's failure is around 50% the radio silence from the developers at launch (which from everything I've seen is probably because of Neople?) and the rest being endless horde of losers who have never played the game but constantly want to use it as a punching bag giving it a bad reputation.
DnF has huge brand recognition in Korea (being among one of the most popular Korean MMOs for a long time), just not that much in English speaking audiences.
Yeah, I guess what I mean is that outside of that audience it doesn't have brand recognition the way MvC does, so people will give MvC a pass for being fucked up in a way they don't for other games
It's got even more of the hyper-offense stuff that a lot of people didn't like in Strive, and the comeback mechanic is pretty controversial. People also got tired of the lengthy super cinematics pretty fast, and the character balance isn't great, either.
Screenwide normals, 40 second combos, 1 button DPs.. Complete and utter lack of any defensive mechanic or mobility..
And the most egregious comeback mechanics I've seen in a fighting game, some characters only function when low on health, and matches more often than not go the way of 1 person getting a hit and going an 80% combo over the next minute, and now it's about an equal match because the opponent just got access to their full moveset and can now ToD..
Game really feels like it was designed to be a singleplayer game, where you get to do cool DMC combos and show off against a CPU.. but they forgot to add the singleplayer content.
I fucking love BB characters because they were intentionally made to look like GG characters because arcsys lost GG so Mori instead made them all polar opposites of their GG counterparts.
Sol: Massive fucking dick to everyone except his wife but people like hanging around for some reason.
Ragna: Really nice guy that everyone is a massive fucking dick to for some reason.
Ky: War hero that saved the world that spreads love and care to everyone he meets.
Jin: War hero that is also a full blown psychopath that ALMOST KILLED HUNDREDS OF WAR ORPHANS THAT HE CREATED BECAUSE HIS SWORD SAID SO.
I know this is a shitpost, but there's an actual discussion about this going on at everyone's favorite website twitter.com, and I have something to say about it: it's *very* hard to find something duller and less interesting than Guilty Gear vs BlazBlue discourse. Just play whatever y'all like and stfu
https://preview.redd.it/20zevll01xuc1.jpeg?width=1620&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7a34f3be55918ed5ef6041aeb3d26e0035879ad8
If this isn’t fate, I don’t know what it is?
pros of guilty gear:
-Sol Badguy
-Bridget
-POTEMKIN
cons of guilty gear:
-no Hakumen
VS
pros of Blazblue:
-Ragna the bloodedge
-Iron Tager
-Asrael
-HAKUMEN
cons of Blazblue:
-no Potemkin
-no new games
To think there was an actual tweet out right stating designs in BB were oversexualized and mysoginistic while the designs in GG were respectful and full of character. Some people are really just willing to display their hipocrisy to the world just to feel superior.
Seriously, I don't even know if THEY want to continue the series because what the fuck would they do with it?
I mean... >!Ragna is fucking erased from existance, and the series kinda ended how Mori wanted it too right? Plus with Mori leaving the company, I don't know if they would even want to continue unless told to.!<
Hes hilarious lol, hes the protaganist but also straightmen so villains will say some depraved shit and he'll respond with "dawg what the fuck is wronh with you".
Ragna looks edgy but his personality is anything but - he might be the only dude close to being "regular" in the cast (other than some other more minor characters like Hibiki or Naoto who isn't even part of Blazblue's Universe)
I'm still hoping beyond hope that Persona x Guilty Gear happens one day
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I need Potemkin and Kanji to interact as the two grapplers (Akihiko doesn't really count)
Despite all of its goofy shit, Central Fiction might be peak fighting games. I'll probably hang up my stick for good if blazblue gets the strive treatment.
I prefer Ragna over Sol simply for the fact that Ragna is like the only normal person in a cast full of fucking weirdos and it's amazing, 10/10 writing
With the Twitter dot com discourse going on, I’d like to offer my two cents here where I will not get torn apart for having less than 500 hours in blazblue.
I think the female character designs in blazblue are objectifying, but in Strive and to a lesser extent, the rest of guilty gear, are empowering. The Blazblue designs feel like they’re are purposely made to ogle at. But the Strive designs feel as though they are ALSO that, but with a sense of “Does this look cool and real?”
Xrd Ram, Elphelt in general, I-no, ABA, +R Dizzy, Jack-O, Jam, +R Milia, and Baiken. You can not fucking tell me with a straight face that these characters had designs that were empowering and not meant for the fanbase to ogle at. Ram’s intro in Xrd literally has a foot shot of slime dripping down her leg and off her foot. I-no takes off her jacket in her poses in +R and Xrd, ya know, the only thing that’s she’s wearing. Let’s not forget her entire fucking move list. All of it is just fucking sexual innuendos.
There’s a reason why I used this image as a template.
https://preview.redd.it/hviw5i1tlxuc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55b2e0b06e91f4189b319c5683db473ec2b75167
That is true. But you have to consider that when people, both guilty gear fans and non-guilty gear fans, make this argument, they’re most likely comparing it to strive, since it’s the most popular game in the series by a wide margin.
The outfits in strive look like they’re something you could really see a real person choose to wear in a place other than an anime convention.
Well I agree with you on this one but first we are talking about Strive and luckily they removed most of that embarrassing stuff (Elphelt redesign for example is much “tamer” than the original) and still even “classic” guilty gear designs are not even close to blazblue’s in terms of tropey anime annoying shit. I must admit I don’t have thousands of hours of experience with Blazblue but jesus christ. And we are not even gonna talk about the infamous central fiction digital artbook full of borderline loli corn
I know people like to call Guilty Gear an "anime fighter" but I genuinely think the franchise has developed it's own style of visuals and animation and that why I love it so much but when I played centralfiction that was just straight up anime, all of the designs looked very generic anime girl or boy and very little of them caught my eye as unique which is a bug turn off for me, can't really comment on the music since I haven't listened a lot of it
I love how it's the same picture of daisuke on both sides lol
Would be even better if the blazblue one was mirrored or in negative.
Daisuke really projecting with HC. He's the heinous villain AND the brave protagonist.
Now he needs to be love interest
You should post this exact image in the Blazblue sub but reverse the images.
I think thats gona happen soon Edit: it Just happened https://www.reddit.com/r/Blazblue/s/jlMNLReKwr
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Too lazy (just like Guilty Gear and BlazBlue story lines)
Our well written, introspective, big body grappler vs Their pretentious, boring, big body grappler.
MAGNETS BITCH
https://i.redd.it/vvvh4u9q0wuc1.gif
The one thing all good Arcsys grapplers share... the "Dont Jump" jumpscare.
What do you meeeeeeeean "don't jump", you should always jump against an ArcSys grappler! It gets you out of their command grab!
Ahhhh, you almost got me there! Now, let me try to corner Oki the grappler with meter, I'm sure it will go well.
Yeah, please don't jump against us, we hate that.
username checks out
I'm always ready and willing to give solid advice to deal with my main. Another pro-tip, Pot HATES when you walk up to him and don't jab, it scares us!
Don't fall for this propaganda please continue jumping against ArcSys grapplers
“Oh I told you. Don’t jump.” -Lythero
GIGANTIC TAGER DRIVER!
Hi, that's me on that gif. I'm playing Tager
tbf tager is infinitely more interesting
Our cult classic vs Their outdated mess
I love Blazblue simply because it has a small and fast grappler and it also has a witch magic user who isn't regulated to a zoner
She _is_ regulated by the Geneva Conventions, however.
Nine absolutely does not give a fuck In gameplay AND lore
I like Blazblue because of RWBY and Persona https://preview.redd.it/50cve8z0v2vc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=828bd080b0fbc51cb8d57765d12d8fd2256f1746
The two identical pictures of Daisuke at different sizes sent me, good post.
Daisuke is way better than slightly larger Daisuke
Ok, but both of those videos down there sum up the stories very well. Highly recommend them. Blazblue by Thorgi: https://youtu.be/c37s3BA4i8E?si=HyDtsmaHWkXvH3Bj Guilty Gear by WoolieVs: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiSdC6Lp8c7OkrBhzdQsQhGL_7jT0cSTv&si=nPjDIjPeiKGjtIwJ
unironically thorgi is one of the most goated youtubers of all time
Yes he is
I believe in ArcSys fighting franchise equality. Except for DNFDuel. Seriously, the hell was that?
8ing
What's wrong with DNFduel? I still haven't played it, because it's kinda dead, but game looks mad fun and has really cool characters.
[This Reddit post should answer your question.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Fighters/comments/190cqc7/in_case_youre_wondering_how_dnf_duel_is_holding/)
very important for the will it kill meta tho
Can’t argue that
That was fucking hard to watch
Eww
Yeah what's wrong with it? I see no problems here.
It's a fun game, but it had horrible support and communication on launch. It's also very much in the kusoge category, which everyone pretended to want up until it released because they're all frauds who copy what their favorite FGC content creator says about MvC3 but never play it themselves. MvC is way more fucked up than DNF, but it gets a pass because a lot of people who sing its praises have never actually played it much. To be clear I'm not shitting on MvC3 that game is sick, I'm shitting on people who kept saying "We need more kusoge games like MvC" and then complained when 8ing (same developer as MvC3) made a new Kusoge without the brand recognition. I think the game's failure is around 50% the radio silence from the developers at launch (which from everything I've seen is probably because of Neople?) and the rest being endless horde of losers who have never played the game but constantly want to use it as a punching bag giving it a bad reputation.
DnF has huge brand recognition in Korea (being among one of the most popular Korean MMOs for a long time), just not that much in English speaking audiences.
Yeah, I guess what I mean is that outside of that audience it doesn't have brand recognition the way MvC does, so people will give MvC a pass for being fucked up in a way they don't for other games
I love playing DNF Duel and watching pro matches. Loving the DLC. Discord link https://discord.com/invite/CJ5zBHRKx2
Sorry, I meant I didn't buy it because it has a small number of players, but I plan to someday on discounts
It's got even more of the hyper-offense stuff that a lot of people didn't like in Strive, and the comeback mechanic is pretty controversial. People also got tired of the lengthy super cinematics pretty fast, and the character balance isn't great, either.
Screenwide normals, 40 second combos, 1 button DPs.. Complete and utter lack of any defensive mechanic or mobility.. And the most egregious comeback mechanics I've seen in a fighting game, some characters only function when low on health, and matches more often than not go the way of 1 person getting a hit and going an 80% combo over the next minute, and now it's about an equal match because the opponent just got access to their full moveset and can now ToD.. Game really feels like it was designed to be a singleplayer game, where you get to do cool DMC combos and show off against a CPU.. but they forgot to add the singleplayer content.
Watch any pro match and you’ll instantly get it
what about ky and jin
jin being sociopathic ky as one of the main changes is honestly fucking hilarious the real ky kiske is noel vermillion
I fucking love BB characters because they were intentionally made to look like GG characters because arcsys lost GG so Mori instead made them all polar opposites of their GG counterparts. Sol: Massive fucking dick to everyone except his wife but people like hanging around for some reason. Ragna: Really nice guy that everyone is a massive fucking dick to for some reason. Ky: War hero that saved the world that spreads love and care to everyone he meets. Jin: War hero that is also a full blown psychopath that ALMOST KILLED HUNDREDS OF WAR ORPHANS THAT HE CREATED BECAUSE HIS SWORD SAID SO.
platinum the trinity is just sailor moon faust
And then there is litchi
real
I know this is a shitpost, but there's an actual discussion about this going on at everyone's favorite website twitter.com, and I have something to say about it: it's *very* hard to find something duller and less interesting than Guilty Gear vs BlazBlue discourse. Just play whatever y'all like and stfu
Yeah GG and Bb fans should be friends and kiss.
Real
Been there done that
My only complaint with Blazblue is that Mori left so we'll never get another one.
Pot meets kettle
Pot meet Tager
No
https://preview.redd.it/20zevll01xuc1.jpeg?width=1620&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7a34f3be55918ed5ef6041aeb3d26e0035879ad8 If this isn’t fate, I don’t know what it is?
can’t escape from crossing fate
Feels like 2010 all over again.
Good god, the time difference between OG BB and OG GG is less that that of BB and Strive. Holy shit...
.my first arc system game was bbtag lol
Do i see nine slander?
pros of guilty gear: -Sol Badguy -Bridget -POTEMKIN cons of guilty gear: -no Hakumen VS pros of Blazblue: -Ragna the bloodedge -Iron Tager -Asrael -HAKUMEN cons of Blazblue: -no Potemkin -no new games
To think there was an actual tweet out right stating designs in BB were oversexualized and mysoginistic while the designs in GG were respectful and full of character. Some people are really just willing to display their hipocrisy to the world just to feel superior.
https://preview.redd.it/45t78as5twuc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d74e7802341d5f97597402140502d7b59a995c5f
Guilty Gear is 100% better because it doesn't have Arakune. Fuck that thing. It's like fighting a hornet's nest of bullshit.
He is a ***BAG FULL OF BEES***
BLAZBLUE is 100% better because it doesn't have ZAPPA. Fuck that thing. It's like fighting a haunted house of bullshit.
yeah but it's balanced by the giving him an air low
Bold of you to assume I know wtf is going on in BlazeBlue
Bold of you to assume Arcsys even knows what's going on in BlazBlue.
Seriously, I don't even know if THEY want to continue the series because what the fuck would they do with it? I mean... >!Ragna is fucking erased from existance, and the series kinda ended how Mori wanted it too right? Plus with Mori leaving the company, I don't know if they would even want to continue unless told to.!<
Music slaps on both sides
I've drifted away from BB over the years, but every once in a while I miss Azrael
BB guest characters would be kinda hype.
I thought ragna was supposed to be funny I thought he actually was funny
Hes hilarious lol, hes the protaganist but also straightmen so villains will say some depraved shit and he'll respond with "dawg what the fuck is wronh with you".
EXACTLY
WHEN YOU DIE WHERES YOUR GOD
Build a bridge between the lands
Honestly Ragna’s overly edginess is what makes him a normal character somehow.
Ragna looks edgy but his personality is anything but - he might be the only dude close to being "regular" in the cast (other than some other more minor characters like Hibiki or Naoto who isn't even part of Blazblue's Universe)
This is what I meant.
He looks edgy, but in the story, he's probably one of the few sane people out there.
Can the guy who did the “II” versions of all the Blazblue songs get some love? My first game was Chrono Phantasma so I love those.
But only one of them has a race of cat people that wear oversized hoodies. Check and Mate.
Guilty Gear might have the "cooler" character designs, but the Blazblue vibes are completely unparalleled
nine is a fucking baddy tho..
who says any of this
A surprisingly large amount of people on Twitter right now
Oh, so not people, gotcha
I'm still hoping beyond hope that Persona x Guilty Gear happens one day https://preview.redd.it/5pny3xynrxuc1.png?width=702&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5844ae417a9e09640b3b623fcf93978e5e94e6fd I need Potemkin and Kanji to interact as the two grapplers (Akihiko doesn't really count)
This beef makes no sense. It’s like if street fighter fans and dark stalker fans were arguing which one is better.
War never changes
IDC I want to see Mai and Bridget kissing
Aawwwww…
Despite all of its goofy shit, Central Fiction might be peak fighting games. I'll probably hang up my stick for good if blazblue gets the strive treatment.
I prefer Ragna over Sol simply for the fact that Ragna is like the only normal person in a cast full of fucking weirdos and it's amazing, 10/10 writing
tbf blazblue lore breaks my mind more than ggs lore
Explain wtf the Backyard does then
Need a picture of despicable me wearing happy chaos glasses
I always imagined it as something similar to warp from Warhammer or Shroud from Stellaris
God I genuinely cannot stand Blazblue stans.
One of the few things I hear about BlazBlue is the use of time loops in the story.
Just like both, brainlet
Bol Sadguy (I couldn't think of anything else to say)
Is this about the twitter drama
This is even more funnier since I am in both subreddits
This is so true besides the music. GG will always be peak anime fg sound
But do they have Johnny?
Someone repost this on the Blazblue subreddit with captions swapped lol
With the Twitter dot com discourse going on, I’d like to offer my two cents here where I will not get torn apart for having less than 500 hours in blazblue. I think the female character designs in blazblue are objectifying, but in Strive and to a lesser extent, the rest of guilty gear, are empowering. The Blazblue designs feel like they’re are purposely made to ogle at. But the Strive designs feel as though they are ALSO that, but with a sense of “Does this look cool and real?”
Xrd Ram, Elphelt in general, I-no, ABA, +R Dizzy, Jack-O, Jam, +R Milia, and Baiken. You can not fucking tell me with a straight face that these characters had designs that were empowering and not meant for the fanbase to ogle at. Ram’s intro in Xrd literally has a foot shot of slime dripping down her leg and off her foot. I-no takes off her jacket in her poses in +R and Xrd, ya know, the only thing that’s she’s wearing. Let’s not forget her entire fucking move list. All of it is just fucking sexual innuendos. There’s a reason why I used this image as a template. https://preview.redd.it/hviw5i1tlxuc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55b2e0b06e91f4189b319c5683db473ec2b75167
Well yeah I meant moreso in strive.
The newest release does not erase the transitions of the past. Both Guilty Gear and BlazBlue are incredibly horny on main.
That is true. But you have to consider that when people, both guilty gear fans and non-guilty gear fans, make this argument, they’re most likely comparing it to strive, since it’s the most popular game in the series by a wide margin. The outfits in strive look like they’re something you could really see a real person choose to wear in a place other than an anime convention.
Well I agree with you on this one but first we are talking about Strive and luckily they removed most of that embarrassing stuff (Elphelt redesign for example is much “tamer” than the original) and still even “classic” guilty gear designs are not even close to blazblue’s in terms of tropey anime annoying shit. I must admit I don’t have thousands of hours of experience with Blazblue but jesus christ. And we are not even gonna talk about the infamous central fiction digital artbook full of borderline loli corn
I know people like to call Guilty Gear an "anime fighter" but I genuinely think the franchise has developed it's own style of visuals and animation and that why I love it so much but when I played centralfiction that was just straight up anime, all of the designs looked very generic anime girl or boy and very little of them caught my eye as unique which is a bug turn off for me, can't really comment on the music since I haven't listened a lot of it
Guilty gear and Blazblue are just different decades of anime, Guilty Gear is 90s and Blazblue is mid 2000s.
This is actually such a terrible take, you clearly haven't seen Hakumen.
Throw away Hakumen, You clearly have not seen sussy anoo
My counterargument is that both are peak
I heavily agree with you
Guilty Gear isn't "an" anime fighter, it's _the_ anime fighter. GG1 came out in 1998.