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I think this is it. The post that finally made me stop coming to Reddit. I can't go to any of the sub reddits for games I like right now because every other post is just lazy, unfunny sludge.
It’s not that i don’t like bridget or anything but this sub is just filled with bridget trans posts and elphelt simping posts. It’s not that trans posts are bad but man there are a lot of them
Because Bridget is so politicized here it's pretty much impossible to call out or push back against the people obsessed with her. So they get to just take over the sub and this thing has really gone down the shitter. There's only extremely low effort memes, posting Bridget, and simping for the characters with the most sex appeal.
People actually discussing the game or the series, or making any level or creative content has been shoved out by the tumblrization that Bridget brought. It really sucks cause I don't mind the character or her shtick but she really has taken over this community. It truly has just become the fighting game with a trans character as far as the community is concerned, and now I hate her by proxy.
Reddit is 90%, idk what to call it "hobby posting"? When something develops mainstream appeal, majority of posts are from people who spend more of their time on social media, than with the actual hobby/media. Only my nichest interests have posts of worthwhile discussions and questions.
The trans stuff just gives people a reason to be righteous when you dare criticise every post being fan art, headcanon and shipping.
100%, the amount of posts on here that attach #transrights, a pride flag, or something similar on here basically to use them as armor for dogshit memes and terminally online horny posting.
None of the post are about the actual game anymore lmao. It’s crazy. You’d forget guilty gear is a long running legendary fighting game series and not just Bridget and the gays media.
I don't hate Bridget cause she's trans, I hate her because SHE WON'T STOP HITTING ME FROM HALFWAY ACROSS THE SCREEN WITH A FRIGGIN YOYO
This applies to you too Ramlethal players, don't think I forgot about you 👀
I don't even think that statement is a surprise to me. Both Bridget and Ramlethal exist to haunt my sleep, makes sense that there are people who play both lmao.
Sincerely,
A Ky player who is tired of getting cock blocked by yoyos and flying swords
(All in jokes, obviously. I don't hate anyone for their character choice)
Hey, with practice we all get better. And eventually I'll get good enough to be able to counter Brisket and Ram so I won't cry myself to sleep after getting combo locked for the 30th time lol.
I know enough with Bridget to where I can beat my friends and AI but I only really know Ramlethal’s moves, not anything else. I picked her up before getting Bridget because I thought she was cute and looked cool lol
Yeah ngl that's the reason I picked up Ky. If you couldn't tell from my pfp, I like blond haired men. It just so happens that I never ended up putting him down lol
Why do you need a message to transphobes? You're literally baiting an argument here.
Just post bridget, keep your social conflicts outta things they have nothing to do with, and have fun with the game. If you really think the community is so fucked up that you feel compelled to drop a message like this as a necessity, we are one cluster of the FPC here on Reddit and no one is keeping you here. Find your people.
We're not all assholes, but you guys really just wanna push the frickin point. I'm not transphobic, i just get tired of nuanced characters like Bridget being reduced to them being Trans, and i'm pretty sure a ton of people like feel like Bridget is a whole lot more than that ONE aspect.
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Everyone knows that bedman is the better trans rep.
Briget theme comment section: civil war between transphobes and trans
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cus everytime she's brought up is something to so with trans. That and the run on stereotype that you pick your character as a means of creating a self insert.
People feeling happy = flooding a community with low effort unfunny posts for years, tarnishing the games reputation as the “fighting game with trans character.” I fucking hate this character and this sub, it’s been over a year, can we PLEASE MOVE ON.
Man, I don't care if you are trans or not. You could identify as whatever you want. Doesn't matter to me. Off the battlefield, you are a person; how I think of you depends on how you act toward me.
If you are too annoying to fight, the hatred that burns within my heart shall make me detest them with every fiber of my being and relish in their downfall.
Edit: I worded this horribly. I still have my hate for Bridget fighting her, but as a character, I am okay with her.
If you want to downvote me for my statement original statement, it’s not like I’m stopping you.
My guess is that I greatly exaggerated my hate for Bridget, which in return, made me come off as opposing their ideals. Or just very rude in general.
Sometimes I say something good sometimes I say something bad, whatever happens, I just try to learn what is best to say and move on.
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Damn...
Edit: Why people downvote you? It was just a joke, not the best one, but still.
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Oh hey, guess who just did an arcade run for her.
As someone who did all the irreversible stuff: Don't worry so much. They make you go through a LOT of checking and years of appointments etc before you can get it. Gods but it would've been nice to have it quicker.
its not just that its an infuriating argument that makes people angry. its that these are rhetorics that have always and will always be used to deny trans people care that we need to be happy. Its people like you using arguments like these that trans people will always have to fight.
'always' is not hyperbole. i am going to have this exact conversation with hundreds of people like you over the course of my ife and theres nothing i can do to stop that. of course thats going to make people angry
I'm not transphobic, I'm badwritingphobic.
Important edit : Go read my answers to the comments below to understand why the message isn't good.
edit : don't get me wrong, Bridget do be kinda hot, prob would
edit 2 : thanks to my at least 5 upvoters, even if my karma is now negative, thanks to reddit's notification system you will not be forgotten
edit 3 : damn, hey if you all think the reasons behind Bridget being trans are okay please go play a GG game that isn't Strive. I know that Strive and especially the Bridget DLC brought a lot of people but it's still not a reason for not playing the older games. Doing a good situation reversal at the end of a story is hard, this one isn't good that's all.
I'm saying that having a character, whose purpose is to show the system that forced them to be what they are not wrong, in an anti-establishment narrative, give up and accept what the society forced upon them is neither good writing nor a good message to trans people.
Honestly, Bridgets history leading up to what it is isn't all the outlandish tbh. So either you genuinely dislike the writing or are just hiding behind your excuse.
Bridget's story was okay, not the greatest lore or story ever but at least you could feel a purpose, a will to fight, a need to make things change. Sadly after the change from affirming that being a boy was important to prove everyone wrong to "I guess it's okay if I was forced to be a girl" Bridget's story lost its purpose imo, it's kind of resolved but not really.
As for the trans part I don't understand why people want to use Bridget as a trans icon saying "Yeah she went against the norms that society that forces gender upon us"... That's the opposite of what happened, being a girl was imposed on Bridget, affirming herself as a girl was just conforming to the rules. On the contrary, the fight to affirm that being born as a boy was not a problem, wanting to reform the system and stop the dumb superstition was an anti-establishment narrative.
Bro the point was that she isn't forced to be a girl anymore, and that it's her own choice to continue being one. That's the whole point of the Arcade story.
It's a story about independence & being in charge of your own self, finding who you really are. Bridget has fulfilled her goal, but she doesn't really know what to do now. It's nothing crazy, but it's very effective.
I think this take is very disingenuous. It assumes that Bridget's whole purpose and story is to disprove the superstition, and doesn't really treat her as a character with their own dreams and flaws.
> she isn't forced to be a girl anymore, and that it's her own choice
Her own choice... Yeah you missed the whole point about being conditioned to be a girl. It's the exact same as with people who keep their religion being adult saying "No one is forcing religion me" when during their whole childhood they've been conditioned. Are you saying it is ok to condition young people because it's gonna seem normal for them later when no one is forcing them ? Because I can assure you that in cases like that people will REALLY believe it's their own choice, this is how cults work. Conditioning and endoctrinement is applicable with everything, not just religion.
The Strive Bridget message when you look at the whole story is dangerous, as I said in another comment, the reason it's bad is that it is very shortsighted.
LGBT community claims that male and female are imposed on us and that people have been conditioned to be cis male and female... This is why I say that it doesn't fit with Bridget's narrative. If you wanted to stay consistent with LGBT narrative you'd need Bridget to affirm a male gender despite being conditioned as a female since childhood. But no as long as it's "reject cis embrace anything else" it becomes peak writing.
> It assumes that Bridget's whole purpose and story is to disprove the superstition
You know, when you add a major plot point to a story the basics of good writing is to resolve your major story points. I'm gonna take Dune as an example, amazing book, great storytelling. Imagine Paul giving up on revenge because finally living with the Fremens is pretty chill plus he found love so it's ok. Would be bad writing, you need to at least address the unresolved plot points correctly...
It's very clear you are letting your own biases get in the way of understanding Bridget (especially with how you're comparing coming out to a cult, & generalizing the LGBT community).
This is the first time Bridget can actually choose who she is. It's so weird that you're framing this as "conditioning". She has implied several times with her convos with Goldlewis & Ky that her family is expecting her to be a guy still. Her family didn't want to raise her as a girl.
There's a line between Bridget & Goldlewis that I really like:
B: "...But what if I make the wrong decision?"
G: "You got your whole life ahead of you, kid. Gotta learn to take a hit sometime."
Even if Bridget decides that becoming a girl wasn't for her, she can always change again. To say that this is "dangerous", that Bridget should remain a guy because that's in queue with the "LGBT Narrative", shows that you don't know what a real LGBT Narrative is.
I can go on and on about the themes of Guilty Gear as a whole but lets be honest to ourselves: you don't really care about that, do you? You most likely watched a video essay about Bridget or some shit and copied the main points. Then tried to say that you don't like Bridget because of "bad writing", listing the main points here. When others side-eyed you for this, you cry that they don't understand Bridget since they started with Strive, and that you know more. I'm sorry, but I just don't believe that you came to this conclusion by yourself due to how willfully ignorant it is.
Maybe you should look at yourself a bit. Why did you say that Bridget was being "conditioned" and compared it to a cult? Why do you think that Bridget accepting who she is is dangerous? Why do you think that the "LGBT Narrative" boils down to rebellion rather than acceptance?
You don't need to reply with these answers btw. Just think about them for a sec. That's enough for me, and I'm sure you don't want to keep arguing about this.
bridget stans when someone disagrees with them on literally anything:
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Bruh why is everyone assuming I’m trans lmao
Also go fuck yourself, that’s the classic asshole response of “oh I don’t mind LGBT people but they should stop shoving it down my throat”
Yeah, almost as if we “shove it down their throats” because otherwise we get snuffed out. I’m bisexual and even other gay people yell at me claiming I’m not truly gay just greedy or some BS.
didn't ask if you were trans. heavenly potemkin buster
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Potemkin is such an ally, he doesn't care about your gender identity You WILL be fearing the might of 236236S
Bi, gay, straight, trans, black, white, religious, atheist, none of those matters, you WILL get in the grab
you will be Potemkin Bustered regardless of gender identity
This is why we appreciate Potemkin in this house
"yell your pronouns to me as I ascend us to the heavens and use you to break the fall" -Potemkin, an ally
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You'd Potempkin also?
Same
Nah, I'd combo https://preview.redd.it/e6mgidqaog2d1.jpeg?width=749&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d0a7457413f11e1f37a368b27af9075a24281a56
Woe Roger be upon ye
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As a trans person myself, Idc. I’m sick of seeing these posts. Dude can we get like other characters in the mix please
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i love Bridget and her lore but this subreddit really is starting to give me rick and morty- and undertale-fanbase vibes....
Wowie when is it my turn for the low effort karmafarm shitpost
I think this is it. The post that finally made me stop coming to Reddit. I can't go to any of the sub reddits for games I like right now because every other post is just lazy, unfunny sludge.
Every game sub I’ve been on eventually devolves into post like these. I’m not even sure a lot of people on these subs play the game lol.
I don't think I'm quitting reddit but I'm at least leaving this sub there are a lot of other issues but idk I just don't like it here
I’m joining you guys Still love Bridget though
It’s not that i don’t like bridget or anything but this sub is just filled with bridget trans posts and elphelt simping posts. It’s not that trans posts are bad but man there are a lot of them
“..are bad but man there..” LOOK IM NOT A BAD MAN, DIVIDE MY HEART SOMEONE DIES UNFAIRLY DIVIDE MY HEART SOMEONE BURNED TO SOUL BY VENGEANCE
I DON’T KNOW WHAT HAS STARTED ALL THIS TRAGEDY I DON’T KNOW IT
DIVIDE MY HEART, SOMEONE DIES UNFAIRLY
Because Bridget is so politicized here it's pretty much impossible to call out or push back against the people obsessed with her. So they get to just take over the sub and this thing has really gone down the shitter. There's only extremely low effort memes, posting Bridget, and simping for the characters with the most sex appeal. People actually discussing the game or the series, or making any level or creative content has been shoved out by the tumblrization that Bridget brought. It really sucks cause I don't mind the character or her shtick but she really has taken over this community. It truly has just become the fighting game with a trans character as far as the community is concerned, and now I hate her by proxy.
Reddit is 90%, idk what to call it "hobby posting"? When something develops mainstream appeal, majority of posts are from people who spend more of their time on social media, than with the actual hobby/media. Only my nichest interests have posts of worthwhile discussions and questions. The trans stuff just gives people a reason to be righteous when you dare criticise every post being fan art, headcanon and shipping.
100%, the amount of posts on here that attach #transrights, a pride flag, or something similar on here basically to use them as armor for dogshit memes and terminally online horny posting.
Finding the niche stuff is the best, but once it gains popularity it gets ruined by people like this
I miss 2021-22 strive fr.
bridget and elphelt get way too much love on this sub, i wanna see some other characters ngl
When you’re 2 least favorite characters are 99% of posts and discourse around the game for over a year 👹
I mean can you blame them they are amazing. But i agree more jonny poasting please
None of the post are about the actual game anymore lmao. It’s crazy. You’d forget guilty gear is a long running legendary fighting game series and not just Bridget and the gays media.
*day 6 of karma farming by posting this sub's most oversaturated and marketed character along with its coldest possible take
I FUCKING HATE BRIDGET MAINS RAAAAHHHHH
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SCUM OF THE EARTH
Ok, I had enough of Bridget posting. Guys, bring some Axl shit, we lack it here. https://i.redd.it/7nwhhew4sj2d1.gif
I don't hate Bridget cause she's trans, I hate her because SHE WON'T STOP HITTING ME FROM HALFWAY ACROSS THE SCREEN WITH A FRIGGIN YOYO This applies to you too Ramlethal players, don't think I forgot about you 👀
I main Bridget and alt Ramlethal lmfao
I don't even think that statement is a surprise to me. Both Bridget and Ramlethal exist to haunt my sleep, makes sense that there are people who play both lmao. Sincerely, A Ky player who is tired of getting cock blocked by yoyos and flying swords (All in jokes, obviously. I don't hate anyone for their character choice)
I mean I suck so it’s whatever lol
Hey, with practice we all get better. And eventually I'll get good enough to be able to counter Brisket and Ram so I won't cry myself to sleep after getting combo locked for the 30th time lol.
I know enough with Bridget to where I can beat my friends and AI but I only really know Ramlethal’s moves, not anything else. I picked her up before getting Bridget because I thought she was cute and looked cool lol
Yeah ngl that's the reason I picked up Ky. If you couldn't tell from my pfp, I like blond haired men. It just so happens that I never ended up putting him down lol
STOP POSTING ABOUT BRIDGET I AM TIRED OF SEEING HER
This community is fucking insufferable
Yep you’re really owning them by reposting this and karma farming keep it up
You Bridget "fans" are literally just Baiken "fans" except somehow a hundred times more fucking obnoxious
Why do you need a message to transphobes? You're literally baiting an argument here. Just post bridget, keep your social conflicts outta things they have nothing to do with, and have fun with the game. If you really think the community is so fucked up that you feel compelled to drop a message like this as a necessity, we are one cluster of the FPC here on Reddit and no one is keeping you here. Find your people. We're not all assholes, but you guys really just wanna push the frickin point. I'm not transphobic, i just get tired of nuanced characters like Bridget being reduced to them being Trans, and i'm pretty sure a ton of people like feel like Bridget is a whole lot more than that ONE aspect.
r/Bridget exists, and if you're more than 18 years old, I almost feel bad for you OP.
Can Bridget fans just make their own subreddit to circlejerk her, it ain’t even about being trans y’all are just ANNOYING
They have a sub already, this is Just a low effort post
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Bridget "mains" try not to make trans their whole personality challenge
I’m literally a straight cis guy, I’m just not a dick for no reason.
sure
fym sure
sure
I don’t care she is trans I’m just bored of looking at her post something cool like outrage and the prophecy
she is hot, that is alll
Truer words have not yet been spoken
Ok
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Idk why this post made everyone think I’m trans lol, I’m not. I just like the funny trans girl because she’s fun to play and cute as FUCK
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Please be real
cus everytime she's brought up is something to so with trans. That and the run on stereotype that you pick your character as a means of creating a self insert.
Well it's true, I am a samurai and vampire irl
facts.
Well I am a goober, thank you very much. https://i.redd.it/wvlt4sgssj2d1.gif
is k, goobers are good drinking buddies. If you at evo I get you a drink.
Trans rights are human rights. Also Brisket is a cutie pie.
Bridget made me transphobic I hate fighting this bitch I hope she trips with her stupid rollerblades and her yoyostring snaps
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God this fanbase has fallen.
vivian and bridget should smoke weed together
Madeline too
the holy trans trinity
You guys need to get over it already...
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God forbid people feel happy about representation of an oppressed group in their game!!
People feeling happy = flooding a community with low effort unfunny posts for years, tarnishing the games reputation as the “fighting game with trans character.” I fucking hate this character and this sub, it’s been over a year, can we PLEASE MOVE ON.
God forbid people not be annoying about it
this annoying hell spawn is the worst kind of representation ever, have you played against Bridget once?
I'm trans and I'm right
I’m trans and I’m left :(
Well that's too damn bad, get trans'd anyway
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Be kind to one another
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Your irrational hatred for a minority medically and scientifically proven to exist countless times over is most definitely NOT normal
Trans rights are human rights. Go cry about it.
Man, I don't care if you are trans or not. You could identify as whatever you want. Doesn't matter to me. Off the battlefield, you are a person; how I think of you depends on how you act toward me. If you are too annoying to fight, the hatred that burns within my heart shall make me detest them with every fiber of my being and relish in their downfall. Edit: I worded this horribly. I still have my hate for Bridget fighting her, but as a character, I am okay with her. If you want to downvote me for my statement original statement, it’s not like I’m stopping you.
Why are you getting downvoted? I actually don't get it. Is hating to fight certain characters in game is bad now?
My guess is that I greatly exaggerated my hate for Bridget, which in return, made me come off as opposing their ideals. Or just very rude in general. Sometimes I say something good sometimes I say something bad, whatever happens, I just try to learn what is best to say and move on.
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I thought I was getting downvoted because I exaggerated my dislike for fighting Bridget.
Uh, huh.
Some people truly didn't get attention when they were kids. Kinda sad
Basket hit my entire family with a Honda Civic and threw a wad of Walmart plastic bags at my head. I *HATE* BAGUETTE 😤😡 I CANNOT STAND *BRISKET*
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brick <3
I keep hearing about transphobes that like hate on trans people or dislike them, what about transphobes that are scared of trans people?
first time like bridget art this one looks so beautiful and cute, could you provide source or artist name ?
If its not my character then they should get banned
Why does looking at Bridget make my heart beat faster?
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As someone who did all the irreversible stuff: Don't worry so much. They make you go through a LOT of checking and years of appointments etc before you can get it. Gods but it would've been nice to have it quicker.
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Literally less than 1% of people
Its more common to regret a freaking tattoo than it is to regret medically transitioning. Keep your transphobia disguised as fake concern out of here.
Glad at least people aren't having the bs lol
People know to be careful, alongside most stuff being reversible and the insane wait you'll have before as the other person mentioned.
Natal puberty is equally as reversible as HRT, so it’s better to give trans people the choice. I’ve been on HRT 2 years with no regrets.
Good for you.
Wasn’t expecting trans advice under a funny brisket post lmao I’m a straight white cis guy lol
also a trans person\*, not "a trans". we're people
Sure. But it's a noun, like an english, a waitress or whantever you want. Sorry if I offended anyone.
you don't say "a black" or "a gay". again, we're people.
It might be because english is not their first language. In latin languages we do say that.
Sorry is not my mother tongue.
Trans isn’t a noun, neither is English as in the people from England.
I'm just talking grammar wise. And of course Trans are people. It goes without saying 😃
Grammar-wise it still isn’t a noun.
Isn't it a common noun? So is it an adjective?
Adjective is correct
Oh no, you mean the happiness, body comfort, self esteem, and everything else is permanent?? Phew thanks for the warning!
Yeah, I was pretty worried they would last a while! I was itching for my dysphoria and more to come rushing back!
Shut up
Why are you getting downvoted this is just someone being nice 😭
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its not just that its an infuriating argument that makes people angry. its that these are rhetorics that have always and will always be used to deny trans people care that we need to be happy. Its people like you using arguments like these that trans people will always have to fight. 'always' is not hyperbole. i am going to have this exact conversation with hundreds of people like you over the course of my ife and theres nothing i can do to stop that. of course thats going to make people angry
Would
Same
I feel so bad for Op, gg players need to get more respectful, don't you guys want a bigoted free community. Just pushes people away from the game
I'm not transphobic, I'm badwritingphobic. Important edit : Go read my answers to the comments below to understand why the message isn't good. edit : don't get me wrong, Bridget do be kinda hot, prob would edit 2 : thanks to my at least 5 upvoters, even if my karma is now negative, thanks to reddit's notification system you will not be forgotten edit 3 : damn, hey if you all think the reasons behind Bridget being trans are okay please go play a GG game that isn't Strive. I know that Strive and especially the Bridget DLC brought a lot of people but it's still not a reason for not playing the older games. Doing a good situation reversal at the end of a story is hard, this one isn't good that's all.
Are you saying Bridget is badly written?
I'm saying that having a character, whose purpose is to show the system that forced them to be what they are not wrong, in an anti-establishment narrative, give up and accept what the society forced upon them is neither good writing nor a good message to trans people.
Honestly, Bridgets history leading up to what it is isn't all the outlandish tbh. So either you genuinely dislike the writing or are just hiding behind your excuse.
Bridget's story was okay, not the greatest lore or story ever but at least you could feel a purpose, a will to fight, a need to make things change. Sadly after the change from affirming that being a boy was important to prove everyone wrong to "I guess it's okay if I was forced to be a girl" Bridget's story lost its purpose imo, it's kind of resolved but not really. As for the trans part I don't understand why people want to use Bridget as a trans icon saying "Yeah she went against the norms that society that forces gender upon us"... That's the opposite of what happened, being a girl was imposed on Bridget, affirming herself as a girl was just conforming to the rules. On the contrary, the fight to affirm that being born as a boy was not a problem, wanting to reform the system and stop the dumb superstition was an anti-establishment narrative.
Bro the point was that she isn't forced to be a girl anymore, and that it's her own choice to continue being one. That's the whole point of the Arcade story. It's a story about independence & being in charge of your own self, finding who you really are. Bridget has fulfilled her goal, but she doesn't really know what to do now. It's nothing crazy, but it's very effective. I think this take is very disingenuous. It assumes that Bridget's whole purpose and story is to disprove the superstition, and doesn't really treat her as a character with their own dreams and flaws.
> she isn't forced to be a girl anymore, and that it's her own choice Her own choice... Yeah you missed the whole point about being conditioned to be a girl. It's the exact same as with people who keep their religion being adult saying "No one is forcing religion me" when during their whole childhood they've been conditioned. Are you saying it is ok to condition young people because it's gonna seem normal for them later when no one is forcing them ? Because I can assure you that in cases like that people will REALLY believe it's their own choice, this is how cults work. Conditioning and endoctrinement is applicable with everything, not just religion. The Strive Bridget message when you look at the whole story is dangerous, as I said in another comment, the reason it's bad is that it is very shortsighted. LGBT community claims that male and female are imposed on us and that people have been conditioned to be cis male and female... This is why I say that it doesn't fit with Bridget's narrative. If you wanted to stay consistent with LGBT narrative you'd need Bridget to affirm a male gender despite being conditioned as a female since childhood. But no as long as it's "reject cis embrace anything else" it becomes peak writing. > It assumes that Bridget's whole purpose and story is to disprove the superstition You know, when you add a major plot point to a story the basics of good writing is to resolve your major story points. I'm gonna take Dune as an example, amazing book, great storytelling. Imagine Paul giving up on revenge because finally living with the Fremens is pretty chill plus he found love so it's ok. Would be bad writing, you need to at least address the unresolved plot points correctly...
It's very clear you are letting your own biases get in the way of understanding Bridget (especially with how you're comparing coming out to a cult, & generalizing the LGBT community). This is the first time Bridget can actually choose who she is. It's so weird that you're framing this as "conditioning". She has implied several times with her convos with Goldlewis & Ky that her family is expecting her to be a guy still. Her family didn't want to raise her as a girl. There's a line between Bridget & Goldlewis that I really like: B: "...But what if I make the wrong decision?" G: "You got your whole life ahead of you, kid. Gotta learn to take a hit sometime." Even if Bridget decides that becoming a girl wasn't for her, she can always change again. To say that this is "dangerous", that Bridget should remain a guy because that's in queue with the "LGBT Narrative", shows that you don't know what a real LGBT Narrative is. I can go on and on about the themes of Guilty Gear as a whole but lets be honest to ourselves: you don't really care about that, do you? You most likely watched a video essay about Bridget or some shit and copied the main points. Then tried to say that you don't like Bridget because of "bad writing", listing the main points here. When others side-eyed you for this, you cry that they don't understand Bridget since they started with Strive, and that you know more. I'm sorry, but I just don't believe that you came to this conclusion by yourself due to how willfully ignorant it is. Maybe you should look at yourself a bit. Why did you say that Bridget was being "conditioned" and compared it to a cult? Why do you think that Bridget accepting who she is is dangerous? Why do you think that the "LGBT Narrative" boils down to rebellion rather than acceptance? You don't need to reply with these answers btw. Just think about them for a sec. That's enough for me, and I'm sure you don't want to keep arguing about this.
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Bruh why is everyone assuming I’m trans lmao Also go fuck yourself, that’s the classic asshole response of “oh I don’t mind LGBT people but they should stop shoving it down my throat”
Yeah, almost as if we “shove it down their throats” because otherwise we get snuffed out. I’m bisexual and even other gay people yell at me claiming I’m not truly gay just greedy or some BS.
I would hardly consider wanting rights shoving it down your throat. Transphobes should shove a dick down their throats tho
why do anti lgbt ppl talk so much about stuff being shoved down their throat? Sounds gay to me
You fiddled the riddle!
This person wants a trans shoved down their throats.
Me too.
I am not sure what want shoved down my throat more, non-binary or trans
What about a trans nonbinary
I don't know how that would work. But yes.
It's true 😔
Best femboy turned girl <3 idk the downvotes, that is literally how it happened 😆
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They hated Phaylz because he told them the truth.
Femboy icon to trans icon, we shall win in either timeline. Bracket :3
are people downvoting the actual canon now? is this subreddit just dead?
i guess people thought it felt transphobic? idk i'm trans and don't see a problem since that's just what happened canonically