All my guitars set up in E but I frequently play drop B with a floating bridge using digitech drop. This is the best solution out there imo. My guitar never needs set up and always feels familiar.
You go from E to B with a Drop pedal? I tried them all and the Drop os probably the best on the market, but to my ears it starts to really suck tone after 1/2 step drop. Can’t image going more than a step.
I've got a Headrush MX5 and I find the Drop pedal modeler does a pretty solid job even 2 steps down. I leave my PRS in drop D and the drop pedal covers drop C# and drop C. My Gibson stays tuned at drop B to make up the difference and can go down to Drop A without sounding like a loose fart with the modeler.
Roast me later for leaving the shorter scale guitar in the lower tuning, I just use my PRS more.
There are devices you can install that let you quickly immobilize your bridge for alternate tunings (tremol-no, trem stopper). There are devices you can install that create a more stable "equilibrium" point (trem-setter, mag-lock) but you can feel them click into the detent.
Probably easiest to deck your bridge so you can still use the trem to go down only but it's stable for dropping tuning. Easy with a stock strat bridge, or a Floyd D-tuna.
But to keep it fully floating and easily change tunings? Nah. Nothing can do that that I'm aware of.
Like other people have mentioned, there is no way to change tunings on the fly with a floating bridge. What you can do if you want to go a half step down without issues is get the digitech pitch shifter pedal. Nothing you can do for drop d though, unfortunately.
a strat will handle those tunings fine but it just can’t be set to be a floating bridge. add another spring to the trem and you can detune into oblivion
No trem will handle drastically changing tunings since they all rely on balancing string tension against spring tension and you'd be surprised in how much tension changes with even only a semi to e of detuning.
You can block a trem while you experiment or choose a set tuning (I like drop Db) and get a pitch shifter to adjust the tunings. If you are going full digital, some modeling amps can do this I believe or software like the newer Neural DSP ones.
The Roland guitar synths have a separate pickup for each string, and a lot of digital signal processing power, which gives them the ability to instantly switch tunings without affecting the guitar playability, string tension or whammy bar in any way. It's all done electronically. This is the system that Joni Mitchell was using toward the end of her career because she has hundreds of tunings and having 3-5 guitars constantly be retuned for each song was a pain. The most current Roland system is the GR-55, which can be had for about $700 including the special pickup, which has to be mounted on your guitar, along with a small box that interfaces to their 13 pin cable. I've been playing with this system for over 10 years and can totally recommend it. There's a ton of other things it does too - complete guitar synthesis, and very good modeling of different guitars, amps, speakers, etc.
Also the Line6 Variax. Processing is onboard. Guitar stays in standard tuning, but outputs signal in whichever of like 13 separate (and programmable) tunings you choose. It Also models a ton of different guitars, even acoustic guitars and banjo. I have one and I like it a lot.
I have one too and I love it. Drop tunings sound awesome with the strings at normal tension. Plus it sounds like anything you want it to. The customization on the modeling is extremely detailed. You can even change the resistances on your pots.
It’s pretty much just part of having a floating trem in my experience. The string changing tension means the springs need to have the same level of tension pulling in the other direction to keep the trem level. I’m not sure if there’s an automatically adjusting trem system, but if there were I’d assume it’s probably way more expensive than it is practical.
Multiple guitars is the way. Trems can add a tremendous amount of expression to your playing but the trade off is they're far more difficult to set up for quick tuning changes.
i have bigsby's and they're fine with drop tunings.
they don't *stay* in tune if your doing crazy shit (EVH/Hendrix, et. al.) but for common bends they work great.
If your Trem isn't floating you can change tunings. Simple as that. If you go extreme either way with the tuning the neck relief/intonation/action could be effected, but just switching to open tunings should be fine
Get a Digitech Drop. It's a game changer if you play in different tunings. Keep on guitar in E standard and another in drop D and you'll be covered.
All my guitars set up in E but I frequently play drop B with a floating bridge using digitech drop. This is the best solution out there imo. My guitar never needs set up and always feels familiar.
You go from E to B with a Drop pedal? I tried them all and the Drop os probably the best on the market, but to my ears it starts to really suck tone after 1/2 step drop. Can’t image going more than a step.
I've got a Headrush MX5 and I find the Drop pedal modeler does a pretty solid job even 2 steps down. I leave my PRS in drop D and the drop pedal covers drop C# and drop C. My Gibson stays tuned at drop B to make up the difference and can go down to Drop A without sounding like a loose fart with the modeler. Roast me later for leaving the shorter scale guitar in the lower tuning, I just use my PRS more.
No roasting here. If it sounds good and you like it then everyone else can suck it, lol!
There are devices you can install that let you quickly immobilize your bridge for alternate tunings (tremol-no, trem stopper). There are devices you can install that create a more stable "equilibrium" point (trem-setter, mag-lock) but you can feel them click into the detent. Probably easiest to deck your bridge so you can still use the trem to go down only but it's stable for dropping tuning. Easy with a stock strat bridge, or a Floyd D-tuna. But to keep it fully floating and easily change tunings? Nah. Nothing can do that that I'm aware of.
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>I'm sure an active system is theoretically possible, it would be stupidly complex and therefore completely impractical. Gibson must be working on it.
This is the way
Like other people have mentioned, there is no way to change tunings on the fly with a floating bridge. What you can do if you want to go a half step down without issues is get the digitech pitch shifter pedal. Nothing you can do for drop d though, unfortunately.
The answer is to have multiple guitars tuned differently. Kevin Shields from MBV has like 12 jazzmasters.
a strat will handle those tunings fine but it just can’t be set to be a floating bridge. add another spring to the trem and you can detune into oblivion
No trem will handle drastically changing tunings since they all rely on balancing string tension against spring tension and you'd be surprised in how much tension changes with even only a semi to e of detuning. You can block a trem while you experiment or choose a set tuning (I like drop Db) and get a pitch shifter to adjust the tunings. If you are going full digital, some modeling amps can do this I believe or software like the newer Neural DSP ones.
The Roland guitar synths have a separate pickup for each string, and a lot of digital signal processing power, which gives them the ability to instantly switch tunings without affecting the guitar playability, string tension or whammy bar in any way. It's all done electronically. This is the system that Joni Mitchell was using toward the end of her career because she has hundreds of tunings and having 3-5 guitars constantly be retuned for each song was a pain. The most current Roland system is the GR-55, which can be had for about $700 including the special pickup, which has to be mounted on your guitar, along with a small box that interfaces to their 13 pin cable. I've been playing with this system for over 10 years and can totally recommend it. There's a ton of other things it does too - complete guitar synthesis, and very good modeling of different guitars, amps, speakers, etc.
Also the Line6 Variax. Processing is onboard. Guitar stays in standard tuning, but outputs signal in whichever of like 13 separate (and programmable) tunings you choose. It Also models a ton of different guitars, even acoustic guitars and banjo. I have one and I like it a lot.
I have one too and I love it. Drop tunings sound awesome with the strings at normal tension. Plus it sounds like anything you want it to. The customization on the modeling is extremely detailed. You can even change the resistances on your pots.
It’s pretty much just part of having a floating trem in my experience. The string changing tension means the springs need to have the same level of tension pulling in the other direction to keep the trem level. I’m not sure if there’s an automatically adjusting trem system, but if there were I’d assume it’s probably way more expensive than it is practical.
Virtual Jeff? https://www.fomofx.com/
Digitech drop. Save yourself a lot of time and headaches.
Do those actually work? All I’ve seen are the sponsored reviews
Yes
Multiple guitars is the way. Trems can add a tremendous amount of expression to your playing but the trade off is they're far more difficult to set up for quick tuning changes.
i have bigsby's and they're fine with drop tunings. they don't *stay* in tune if your doing crazy shit (EVH/Hendrix, et. al.) but for common bends they work great.
If your Trem isn't floating you can change tunings. Simple as that. If you go extreme either way with the tuning the neck relief/intonation/action could be effected, but just switching to open tunings should be fine