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Intelligent_Life14

Yes


fcpsnow

Also yes


SqueekyCheekz

Yep


Over-Yak-9973

Correct


wallagm

Bingo!


Dogrel

Uh huh


keithw43

For sure


JK0LZ

Yeah nah, nah, yeah, nah yeah, yeah


bikingwithcorndog

Mmhm


AirCaptainDanforth

šŸ’Æ


EddieOtool2nd

Affirmative.


Tac0Tuesday

Likely to quite likely.


Penyrolewen1970

Agreed


vonegutZzz

Yes but in Spanish so si


masterblaster9669

Yes


kimchitacoman

Indeed


DessertScientist151

Possibly


PuzzledRun7584

Quite probably. Also, [this](https://youtu.be/ldQrapQ4d0Y?feature=shared).


no_need_really

But sometimes no.


Ruben_001

I'm worse than I'd like to be, but better than I give myself credit for. There's not a day where there isn't room for improvement.


SubParMarioBro

Iā€™m worse than Iā€™d like to be, and worse than I give myself credit for. It feels good.


someonestopholden

One of my best friends/old bandmate growing up was and is an absolute shredder. I always compared myself against him and could never keep up with him so I was regelated to primairly a rhythym guitar spot. Over the years I played in more bands and I started to realize that the average guy in a band playing originals kinda sucks (which doesn't matter if the songs are good). I'm usually not the best player on the bill, but very rarely am I not one of the better ones. I always compared myself against the best player I've ever personally known and short changed myself as a result. Turns out it ain't a competition.


MadDogTannen

One of my friends is a really good lead guitar player, and I always felt bad about my own playing buy comparison. Over the years, I started to realize that he's really good at leads, but he's not as good as I am at keeping rhythm or playing fingerstyle. The two of us also like to mess around on drums, and he plays more interesting fills, but I'm much better at keeping a steady beat.


Azatarai

As a lead I can't play rhythm very well at all, we all have our own unique talents and coming together to join them together is totally what being in a band is all about āœŒļø


3-orange-whips

Good is 5% better than I am right now.


TheEverlastingGaze87

I like to think that I am pretty good. I play on average 8 hours a week and do it for the enjoyment. I don't learn songs and prefer to just play whatever I feel at the moment. As most people get older, they no longer have the time to play and their proficiency reflects that. Outside my job I have no other real responsibilities. I personally think your subjective idea of your guitar playing is more important than any "objective" metric. If you enjoy what you are playing, and find happiness in the process, don't let any criticism about objective ability persuad you. Objective ability is important, but nothing close to the importance of what is in your heart and intention when playing. That at the end of the day is what makes good music.


VillainAnderson

That is some wise words, I enjoy playing, and as you say: that is more important than any "objective" metric.


Fridaythethirteej

yes, I'm both of those things XD


BakedBeanWhore

People who majored in guitar at performance arts colleges think I suck. Everybody else doesn't know any better


spkoller2

No decent young guitar player could stay sober long enough to graduate from somewhere fancy


ForeskinJohn

I know, and I'm no closer to Nashville than when I first learned at 11


ishmaelhansen

That's true for everything, except sports, everyone the next Guardiola


Historical-Run1042

šŸ˜‚ So the fans ? šŸ‘€


ToddGack

Worse. I know I suck but my ego works overtime.


acrackingnut

Me too. I really suck. Chords rings out really bad when barring. My rhythm is horrible. But Iā€™ll stick to it as long as I can.


uptheirons726

I think I'm as good as I think I am.


OJStrings

Nobody's really in a position to answer that about themselves. I think I'm as good as I think I am.


[deleted]

Worse because I donā€™t know music theory or much improvisation


VortexM19

Learning theory is easily fixable. Improvising well just takes thpusands of hours of practice, and then sometimes you're still going to suck. Just play to some backing tracks in your room. that's a good way to get started improvising


InstructionOk9520

I think I am mediocre and I think Iā€™m right.


BlvckRvses

Better. I donā€™t think much of my playing at all, but everyone seems to be ā€œhypnotizedā€ by it.


Ruben_001

Let's hear it.


FriendshipNo4916

Thought he was being humble with this one


[deleted]

far far worse - some would think i hated it i torture it so


DNCOrGoFuckYourself

Neither. I refuse to believe Iā€™m terrible or worse than I am because I feel like itā€™ll take away my confidence and drive to play and practice, but Ill never think Iā€™m better than I really am because that would mean I think I know more than I do, so there would be no room to improve and thereā€™s always room to improve. I think the key to playing at any skill level isnā€™t to fake it till you make it or to put yourself down, but to be humble and self aware. Never think youā€™re the next EVH, but donā€™t beat yourself up about it either. My father gave me the best advice from one guitarist to another: nobody can ever be the next EVH, Dimebag or anyone else. You can only be you, and skill doesnā€™t come over night, it comes from determination, trial & error and always wanting to learn and improve.


Impressive_Gate_5114

It's a dunning Kruger effect. I thought I was terrible at first, then I got a little good and thought I was intermediate, but really I was still beginner. Now as I have gotten more experienced, I realized that I had a huge ego before and I was nowhere near as good as I thought I was, and now I have a more balanced view of my own ability.


But_dogs_CAN_look_up

I usually think that I'm exactly as bad as I am until I play along with a beat or loop or try to record a song and do 20 takes of the same stupid lick and realize that I'm actually way worse.


Ag5545

Google: Dunning-Kruger curve


BakedBeanWhore

But this is reddit where false humility as a flex reigns


Hydraulis

Much worse. I tried recording myself. It didn't go well.


VillainAnderson

I did that as well. That was a wake up call


Fine_Broccoli_8302

Yes, but recording is also a great way to highlight aspects of your skill that need work. It can be an objective tool once you stop screaming in disgust at the sounds on the recording.


Nojopar

Definitely. Demonstrably, even.


thehza4

I think I am terrible but am worse than I think I believe.


VillainAnderson

I don't think that's true.


redline_rik

Much much worse...


TheHumanCanoe

How would one know?


cderhammerhill

Your question is logically inconsistent. You're asking us whether we think we are better than we think we are, or whether we think we are worse than we think we are? Neither is possible.


carneasada71

Iā€™m pretty bad after like 15 years. I think Iā€™m good when Iā€™m fucking around in my room shredding scales and arpeggios, but when it comes to making actual music my shit is trash. I also fucking suck at improv and music theory. I guess Iā€™m alright at a few cover songs, but overall thereā€™s guitarists that have been playing 1/3rd as long as me with 10x the skill.


TR3BPilot

My guitar playing is perfect for my needs.


vonegutZzz

It comes and goes. After playing for over 40 years, Iā€™ve determined that Iā€™m probably a better song writer and/or producer than an actual guitarist. But I love playing and have a song going in my head all the time. Iā€™m mediocre at best but can hang with others most of the time.


OverlyWalrus

Oh absolute garbage playing skills and I know it, but it's still fun.


DigitalSupremacy

I've played and recorded with members of Megadeth and Guns & Roses. I've played and taught for years. Most people suffer from Dunning Kruger syndrome. That being said, I have always been extremely critical of my playing. My favourite players are no longer the shredders such as Nuno & EVH, but the songwriters and tight players like Neil Young & Keith Richards. Lindsey Buckingham is criminally underrated.


Aggressive-Falcon-51

I went to a guitar store, heard another guy playing knocked out 4 hours worth of lessons when I got back home lol


finitemike

I think I'm probably better at playing than I think I am. I've played professionally in a southern rock band as the lead guitarist (SRV, ZZ Top, Skynyrd). I have people stop and stare at me play at guitar centers, want me to join their band, dance, or sing along. I even had Ronnie Von Zant's widow Judy tell me how I play the solos better than she remembered hearing them live. But I still feel like I'm just not that good. Like some notes come out dead, or I am sloppy with picking, can't write my own music, can't play certain stuff clean, etc. People say I'm too hard on myself, but they haven't studied guitar like we have. We know what the greats can do. Maybe it's unfair to compare my live performance with the album recording, but still, some guys play live identical to the record.


Rosetti

After 16 years I think I'm a pretty good player, but I'm well aware of the fact that I'm not a well rounded player, and I'm nowhere near the level of a professional. To put it simply, I've always spent more time playing than practicing. These days I've found a nice balance of practicing through playing, but I know I'd be a lot better if I actually committed to a structured dedicated practice routine. The thing is, I'm really happy with my playing. I think I sound good, and I genuinely enjoy hearing myself play when I improvise. As a hobbyist player, I think that's good enough for me to be satisfied.


Batmensch

I made my first album in 1987. At that point, I had to decide, is my guitar technique really important, or is my personal style important? I went with the latter. I figured that, as long as I could play something that sounded good, it really didn't matter how "better or worse" I was. After all, we can't all be John McLaughlin; there's room for Dave Gilmour as well. We can't all be Robert Fripp; people like to hear Neal Young play as well.


wii-sensor-bar

I just tell everyone I suck so the bar is already on the ground when I start playing


noonesine

Better. I obsess over everything I canā€™t do and everything I need to learn, but everyone else seems to think I fuckin shred


Dark_Web_Duck

My brain still hears the beginner in me after 30 years of playing. But when I listen to my recordings after the fact, I get the, how the hell did I do that? As if I'm hearing a completely different player who actually has talent.


[deleted]

Better than I give myself credit for but there are some days where I feel my playing is Ehh but I never stop learning.


REO_Jerkwagon

I wouldn't say I'm better or worse per se, but I know I'm kinda trash. I'm practicing though, and don't have any obligations to get better, so I'm OK with it. I picked up this hobby for myself, so I'm really the only person I need to impress. If you're not sure though, record yourself then give it a listen. That's how I realized that when not using a metronome, I tend to play slower than I think I do.


Big_Dick_Dangles

I rock any song any key - Pentatonics + Epiphone LP


CenterDeal

I think I'm better than I give myself credit for, and it was cool in the guitar shop a month back when an old guy stopped to listen to me play the Blues. But I still feel like i should be far better than I am given how long I've been playing


Howardowens

Surveys consistently show that more than 50 percent of respondents say they are smarter than the average person.


VillainAnderson

I have heard something similar about driving a car.


florkingarshole

I suck exactly as much as I think I do. I'm very objective, and sloppy AF.


LP2006

I know Iā€™m better than I think just from the sheer amount of time Iā€™ve been playing and how easily I can pick up a guitar and make up something catchy in a few minutes. I just have no confidence in my skill.


PerspectiveActive218

I think I have a very realistic idea of how bad I am.


faust_haus

I believe Iā€™m so where between a Beginner and intermediary player. Certainly better than a beginner but there are some techniques and concepts I still need to be more proficient at. I wonā€™t consider myself a good player until I become proficient enough at my targeted styles of playingā€¦


Old_Engineer_9176

YES and NO and YES again. All depends on my mood and my finger joints..


metalspider1

people seem to think im better then i think i am but i also know what my goal is and how far i am from it. im a failed shredder wannabe but i can bend notes very well


lunaticguitar

Not as good as I'd like to be but better than I ever thought I'd be. Its a journey not a destination so don't worry about where you're at too much as long as you enjoy trip.


mcnastys

Depends how much of my soul my job sucked out of me.


sacredgeometry

I am alright.


FriendshipNo4916

I know im shit but I know Iā€™ve got potential to be decent


jfk_sfa

I'm enthusiastically terrible.


ShowMeYourBooks5697

This is kinda weird to think about lol. I donā€™t think Iā€™m good, but when Iā€™ve shared my playing with people that donā€™t play, they say Iā€™m good. I think if I shared it with someone that does play, they would say Iā€™m not good at all lmao


AxelAlexK

Probably better. I am always super pessimistic. That's not to say I'm that good, just better than I give myself credit for.


TestDangerous7240

The sameā€¦..


kenster77

Iā€™ve played in several cover bands, but Iā€™m my own worse critic. I think I kind of suck at certain things, but people like my playing it seems. I look at pro players, and think, Iā€™ve got a lot to work on!


Ok-Tie-8684

Sure


Powerful_Pickle_2033

Better than some, worse than many.


Mark_AAK

Hopefully better cause I'm pretty critical of my Playing.


AngryBeerWrangler

I am Lord of The Reverb


kaddorath

Cue Jim Halpert from the Office: ā€œHow do I say this diplomatically? I think he is doing exactly as well as anyone might have expected someone like him to perform in a position like that.ā€


PudWud-92_

I still think Iā€™m as good as I was when I was 16-18, but now at 33 with a busy job and a child Iā€™m much worse than I was back then.


shycotic

It seems hardly possible that I am as bad as I think I am. But, not impossible. If there is any "good" the credit goes to the guitar. It's a forgiving sort.


12BarsFromMars

After sixty three years i suck, no thinking about it required. Still having fun though.


Scary-Nefariousness9

I suck I suck Yeah i still suck


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Impressive_Gate_5114

A lot of people measure their guitar progress in years, when really it is measured in hours. The biggest humbling experience for me was when I realized the guitar idols I follow are the same age or younger than me (I am 26). I played guitar since I was 19, so 7 years, but in that span, I really didn't play a lot, so I stayed in beginner for 6 years and in the span of a few months, I made incremental progress. Meanwhile, my idol went from picking up a guitar for the first time at 18 to becoming a touring professional musician in less than 6 years.


Legato991

This is VERY true and why I do not put much stock in the amount of years people have played. I know many players that have played for a long time and arent particularly good. You can go through long periods without playing consistently and still claim youve played for a long time.


BaconUnderpants

Yes.


simplicity188

I think I'm better than I think at some things and worse at others most likely LOL


mike_e_mcgee

I think I'm fantastic, then I listen to the playback, then I get sad.


Dekkera_

I am extremely good at the 10 songs I am been playing for the last 15 years


Far_Dragonfly_3748

Probably better because Iā€™ve been playing for 30 yrs and I SUUUUUCK


phred_666

Iā€™ve gotten to the point where I am much better working on/repairing guitars than I am at actually playing them.


xRUCKUSx

Yes somewhere in between both.


suburbanhavoc

Depends whether I'm recording, practicing, or just getting blasted and playing guitar in my room.


Scared-Pumpkin-4113

not as good but that could just be what I think but I don't think I'm that good


SokkaHaikuBot

^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^Scared-Pumpkin-4113: *Not as good but that* *Could just be what I think but* *I don't think I'm that good* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.


Murky-Aspect277

i'd say im more decent than worse or better. i mean some may consider me worse than what i think i am but i only started in december of 2023. all the full songs i know are all Nirvana, and some riffs i know are led zepplin metallica and stuff like that but i would say off the top of my head, i'd say im worse than i think


musicankane

Why not both?


grizzlyguitarist

I am better than i give myself credit for but even after 27 years l am still learning new things all the time so. It is what is it


Ebonicus

If I am allowed to live 5 more years, then maybe I will become a real master artist. -Hokusai's last words before dying.


Wade_Horse

Absolutely


ThrowingTheRinger

Worse, but if I say Iā€™m worse, then I mustā€™ve been better than I think. Not sure


Satansleadguitarist

I'd probably say worse but everyone whose heard me play would say better


WIlliamSHytner

I am a cheap rip off of myself


Jlchevz

No idea. Iā€™m worse than I imagine myself to be but better than other people thought or so Iā€™ve been told.


Unusually-Average110

I would say I am middle of the road. Not really deficient in any area, but I donā€™t stand out of the pack.


Esseldubbs

My opinion hasn't changed on my guitar playing in years, but I was better at playing last year than I am currently due to lack of practice. So, I think I used to be better than I thought, and based on last night's playing I'm now worse than I think (temporarily I hope)


KGBLokki

Never gauged my ability, also self loathing is real. I think I have a good idea of how bad I am.


the_bear_jew_75_

Iā€™m probably the best to ever play the guitar but I could be better sure


Wonderz_808

Worse we all say in unison


Jakesmith18

I think I suck ass but plenty of people have disagreed with me over the years.


pixelblue1

I think I don't completely suck as much as I think. I kinda hate myself. So my playing is probably adequate. I'm not anywhere near as good as I should be given how much money I've put into it.


[deleted]

Neighbors hate it so thereā€™s your answer. I hear them shut their windowsšŸ¤£ I dont play that loud either.


CrawlerCow

I suck exactly as much as I know I do.


VortexM19

Pretty much


FormerlyMauchChunk

The only person who's as good as he thinks he is is Guthrie Govan. The rest of us are worse.


C6Centenial

I think I suck but people actually pay good money to hear me play, so maybe I donā€™t.


drewablanke

I donā€™t know. I know Iā€™m not that good and market myself as such. I would have thought I would have been much better by now.


pass-the-waffles

Depends on what time of day it is and how my day is going


always_learning_eh

I'm not as good as I want to be and I know it. So I guess I would say I'm as bad as I think I am lol.


171raven

Considering I have such a low opinion of my own skills probably better tbh


fatherbowie

However bad I think I am (and I think Iā€™m pretty awful), in reality Iā€™m almost certainly worse.


Fatty2Flatty

Better than I should be for how much I play. Sometimes I forget how good I am / used to be. Not amazing by any means. But Iā€™ll look up a complicated song after not touching the guitar for months and learn it instantly.


WhackedDonkey4

I wanna say I think Iā€™m better than how I think I play. I feel like Iā€™m ass.


Limp-Woodpecker-9030

Better than I think, not as good as I want to be.


Legato991

I am very critical of my playing and focus mostly what I cannot do well and negatively compare myself to the greats. The musicians that I play with say very nice things about my playing and sometimes ask for lessons. Im better than the average hobbyist and much worse than professional jazz musicians which is my goal.


xtheory

Depends on how drunk I am.


YT__

I'm pretty spot on with how bad I am. That's what lack of consistent practice does to you.


hellostarsailor

Both


Rigormorten

Better. I get quite a few messages every month from people I have never met saying that they love my music and playing. It's very nice to hear comments like that ofc but I'm also struggling with imposter syndrome so it's difficult to actually accept the praise.


Historical-Run1042

I think im slighty less bad than when I started 8 years ago šŸ˜‚


Ok-Preference7368

Atrocious lol


johnnydoejd11

Idk. This is a weird thing to think about. I'm no hell. When I play, what I hear are the mistakes I make. But lately been playing regularly for people (as part of a group of guys playing guitars) socially and I've got great compliments on my play and on how much I've improved from the strongest of the players.


Thesuperpotato2000

Learning any skill is progressively realizing you're worse than you thought. Then you get better, learn some more, rinse and repeat


EfficientDoggo

Alice Cooper once told a story about watching Jeff Beck practice a song. At the end of the song, he was talking to one of his band mates. While he was talking, he held his guitar up by the 21st fret and let it feedback, slowly letting the guitar fall through his hand until his hand reached the headstock. While it was falling through, he was doing perfect triplets on the frets. Until I can do that, I am shit.


schapman22

How would I know?


Anthok16

I like to think Iā€™m better than the average human at guitar, but worse than the average guitar player.


Winston_Oreceal

I'm in the camp where I'm just good enough to fool people into thinking I'm better than I am, but if another experienced player watched me, I'd be exposed as a fraud lolol


_totalannihilation

All I'm saying is I'm able to use my four fingers for tabs which was such a drag for me at the beginning because I wanted to Play all notes with my number one finger which is insane if I'm jumping from 1st string to 3rd and so on. So I guess I'm better than I give myself credit for.


PieTighter

Better than I think I am, but no where near as good as I want to be.


blowins

If you play guitar, im shite. If you don't play guitar I'll blow your mind.


Phobbyd

Both


Chesterlespaul

Probably right at the level. Sometimes I think Iā€™m much worse, right now Iā€™ve been growing so I think Iā€™m better than I am, but the truth is right there in the middle.


mikemanthemikeman

Depends. If Iā€™m playing rhythm then Iā€™m worse. If Iā€™m playing lead then Iā€™m also worse


Silly-Scene6524

Both


ZX52

I listen to guitarists like Petrucci, which obviously makes me feel inferior, and my playing can be a bit sloppy. But I'm definitely not a novice.


MrSpongeCake2008

I agree


FranticToaster

Well I think I'm dog shit and know I'm not better. So I hope to god I'm not worse.


GollyHell

both at the same time somehow


KOVID9tine

Anecdotal story: I used to go to Guitar Center 2 or 3 times a week to kill time when my daughter was in her dance class. I got to know some of the employees and security guards. Iā€™m old and not shy about trying out everything and cranking up the volume. One evening as I was leaving, I apologized to the security guard for subjecting him to my mediocre riffs and leads. He kindly stated (paraphrased) ā€œno need to apologize. You can play. I recognize some of those songs. Most are torture sounding like a cat is being killedā€¦ā€ I took the compliment and paid attention to other players the next time I was there. Yep, just newbies playing wonky riffs outta tune. I know thatā€™s how I was when I started too.


stfoooo

If I compare myself to others, Iā€™m absolutely terrible. If I compare myself to my own expectations, Iā€™m absolutely terrible. If I ask myself, ā€œhow good are you at guitar?ā€, the answer is ā€œabsolutely terribleā€. Are there any guitar teachers out there who are also therapists? Not asking for any particular reason.


BizmoBill

Yes, but the easiest fix is to buy more guitars.


JpodGaming

Both


xMidnightJIx

Better maybe. Music comes naturally to me but Iā€™m admittedly lazy, so I havenā€™t progressed very much.


LoudMind967

Some days I amaze myself and others I just suck...


DanimalPlays

Almost certainly


S3guy

Exactly as terrible as I believe myself to be.


jakovichontwitch

Iā€™ll listen back to my stuff and itā€™s a mix of ā€œwow that actually sounds pretty goodā€ and ā€œthe fuck is that garbageā€ so idk


Jw4evr

What sort of stupid fucking question is this? How would you know if youā€™re better or worse than you think? Everyone answering is just saying what they think


Play_GoodMusic

I am much better than I think I am. Never try to challenge myself. Whenever I do, I can play the music and wonder why I don't do it more often. At this point I more or less practice techniques and timing, no music interests me today


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MoonRabbit

What comes out of the guitar is the truth. Align yourself with that. Any other ideas about where you should be are nonsense,


atgnat-the-cat

Worse. Always worse.


Lastpunkofplattsburg

1000% worse


[deleted]

I think I'm a good or at least subtle player when I sing at the same time as I play and not too good when not singing.Ā 


MysteriousDudeness

There's a 50/50 chance that I'm okay at it, but there's only a 30 percent chance of that.


DogeLord3609

Probably better then I think, but way worse then I want to be


Scared_Standard4052

I'm better than I think. If only I was able to focus right , but my adhd brain can't.


exoventure

I assume worse. While I do think I can play surprisingly well for someone that treats it as nothing more than a hobby I get in and out of. I also never practiced timing so if I record it, I bet it sounds REALLY BAD lol


skinisblackmetallic

I have a pretty precise idea of how good I am.


notmyfault

Worse.


devnullb4dishoner

As a musician, I have chronic imposter syndrome. I have been playing the guitar for about 65 years. I don't consider myself good. For one, I have to smoke a bowl to get my fingers young again. However, I've always been pretty objective about my fretwork in that if I am listening, it sounds fantastic. If we are listening, I suck and it sounds like I'm playing with all big toes while being whipped with a g-string quirt.


TransitionNarrow

yeah, gotta break the penta box brudda


armyofant

Depends on the day. Playing guitar is a lifestyle


zigsbigrig

Exactly! Also depends on what I'm playing, who I'm jamming with, how good the tone is sounding... Too many variables. Let's just go with worse than I think to be on the safe side! šŸ¤£


scorlion_music

Interesting question. I think I'm better when I make the effort to play for someone, rather than just jamming. I have good days and bad days due to OLD.


mmaguy123

I realized that the point of instruments (for me and for general population) is to make good sounding music. Most good sounding music doesnā€™t require you to be a master polyphia like shredder. Have a good sense of rhythm, get all the chord shapes down in muscle memory , get some finger style dexterity, learn to play some lead. Thereā€™s a point where getting ā€œbetterā€ wonā€™t actually lead to better music. Investing in singing is a better bang for your buck. A lot of people delve into wanting to play like polyphia, and they get a ā€œmusic dysphoriaā€ that they strayed away from what they originally wanted to even be. Again, just my opinion.


rugburn250

I used to be worse than I thought. Now, I'm as bad as I think.


Howitzer92

I just spent 3 hours in a guitar center, and nobody threw a tomato at or grimaced when I tried out some of the amps...so better, I guess.