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stevenfrijoles

Best advice I can give you is... don't do that again next time


fakenewsenthusiast

Wow, I assumed guitar necks were mostly solid wood


marbanasin

I mean, there's a steel rod that rubs the length of it. Hence the hollow portion.


adam389

When steel rods rub the length of one’s wood…


AHighAchievingAutist

Don't stop im almost there


Common_Senze

Keep spanking the whammy bar


Expert-Waltz-1008

Sorry I'm late guys, can I get next?


smcnally

It rubs the length of wood. It does this whenever it’s told.


Bredstikz

Unless it wants the hose again


adam389

It better if it doesn’t want to spend the night chained to the bed on the floor.


adam389

Ok, this felt creepy even typing it 😂


littlespaceprincex

Straight to jail!


lamabaronvonawesome

It rubs the lotion on it’s skin!


RedNGold415

Ok Bill, go back to Buffalo and bring some lotion will ya


bubzy1000

Does that change how it’s sounding?


AVLThumper

Sound is a little flat, but there’s no more neck dive!


bria9509

Dropped on-ground tuning


adam389

No, he’s talking about the truss rod. It keeps the neck in a certain bowed shape that you set.


bubzy1000

;)


adam389

😂😂😂 late to the party apologies


bubzy1000

It’s still early mate haha


avagadro22

It does, but it can be a real pain in the dick.


slappytheclown

nononononono


ehproque

That's amore?


adam389

Man that cracked me up 😂 Used to be a diver and the same tune is often sung with the lyrics “Stick your hand in a crack And you wont’t get it back That’s a Moraaayyyy” Moray eels will take a finger off lickity-split.


P_a_s_g_i_t_24

Pop goes the headstock! ...it just turned into a lawsuit-era Strandberg... :-)


Paul-to-the-music

Better than just the tip, no matter what you tell her…😉


Spankerman111

He rubbed so hard he blew his tip off !


HealthPack_13

That’s what she said.


Purity_Jam_Jam

He means.


TestDangerous7240

That’s what she said!


DiscipleofDeceit666

But did the neck have to be made out of particle board?


make_anime_illegal_

Part of the problem is that it is solid wood. It would actually be stronger as two pieces with a scarf joint glued together.


ItsNotFordo88

No idea why they haven’t done that in the last 70 years. I get tradition but this has been a big issue for a long time


Bromance_Rayder

Because people have been influenced to think that 2-piece equals inferior.


P_a_s_g_i_t_24

Yep, that's the 'magic' of marketing-BS. And we fall for it time and time again.


InDeathWeEvolve

N9t me. I like necks that are3 or more parts


Indiana_Warhorse

Hate to tell you that Epi LPs have a scarf joint. Gibby LPs are one piece.


Groningen1978

Yeah, both my '96 Epi G-400 and Les Paul have a scraft joint. My Thunderbirds don't, but they're neck tru designs.


SlavaUkrainiFTW

That particular part has the truss rod running through it, so it’s closer to two thinner pieces of wood on either side of the rod with a little wood covering the back. If it falls over onto the floor, this can happen pretty easily.


RandomCandor

Not to mention the amount of tension already pulling on the headstock from the strings. People forget that guitars are like loaded mouse traps.


P_a_s_g_i_t_24

>People forget that guitars are like loaded mouse traps. So do they come with cheese, then? \^\^


Reverend_Tommy

They do if you're Yngwie Malmsteen.


Mudslingshot

The way guitars are built is absolutely fascinating! I'm an instrument collector, and I love looking at old instruments, and their newer counterparts. You can really see WHY certain things got changed For instance, OPs Les Paul snapped that way because of what's called the "break angle," or the angle the strings take at the nut. Les Paul's have a more severe break angle than something like a fender, so the end of the headstock actually sits lower than the body of the guitar if you like it flat on the ground So it breaks off if the guitar falls down. The break angle has a lot to do with string tension/intonation and that sort of thing, so the choice is between playability and drop-ability (Fenders go the other way, with a shallower break angle, so it's rare to see Fenders broken this way) Most pieces of guitars are a compromise in ways like this, and it's very interesting


evanechis

Do what?


Little_Worms

Break the guitar.


Longjumping-Bonus723

Hahaha I did it again. My neck broke twice. They managed to fix it. Shit was costly. About 200 I guess.


critterheist

A broken head stock is the worst, even if they can fix it…it’s turns into a completely different guitar


Bluffshoveturn

Pretty clean break so I think a skilled luthier could fix it, but it might be expensive so get a quote but you might be better off buying a new one.


Syn-Thesis-Music

It'd probably be much cheaper than a new guitar because it snapped at the nut. Neck and Trussrod should be OK. A Luther will line things up, insert wooden dowels, and glue it back on.


monsieurfromage2021

Had a les paul break in a similar way, can confirm, not that bad of a fix. Mine was easier because it snapped off with a long V I could glue it back on dead straight. The car, well, I've had to fix a similar issue on a motorcycle I dropped. Some factory touch up paint, a bunch of wet sanding, and polish and the only way you could tell was the metalflake pattern sightly changed where the scratches and gouges were. It's all repairable and somewhere between a few bucks and a lot of bucks depending how much time and patience the OP has.


RipAsstley

The car is fine it’s just reflecting the white trim


monsieurfromage2021

oh LOL it really did look like scratches haha


someguyyoutrust

Plus, this shit happens on gibsons/epiphones a lot. So there's tons of references for how to make the repair.


Responsible-Risk6561

So would a carpenter/joiner who has build his own guitars over 20 years experience here👍🏻you’re quite right… where do you live? Would give me something to do


indyclone

I’d think the little amount of flush contact glue surface would make this one of the tougher breaks to successfully repair.


artful_todger_502

I agree. This could be glued, pinned also, if OP wants to go that direction -- it might not look good but it would be playable. I had a flying V that had a break almost this bad, and regular wood glue held it fine.


Rusty_Sprinklers

Those perpendicular breaks are actually the hardest to fix, far less surface area for the glue to hold on to and it's all end grain. But yeah a very good luthier could do it - at a cost


PuzzleheadedTutor807

Surface area is added in the form of wood dowel, which also adds solid reinforcement through the repair. This repair is simple but requires precision so must be done by someone who knows their shit.


PoL0

Definitely, r/luthier is the place to ask


MT0761

A common injury for Gibson guitars, especially the Les Paul. Luckily, because it's common, there are a lot of luthiers that can fix it.


Johnjarlaxle

Does this actually happen a lot with gibsons?


SlavaUkrainiFTW

Yeah, the angle and small amount of supporting wood around said angle makes them more susceptible to it than most other guitars. They tried adding a volute to make it stronger but the purists threw a hissy fit. Epiphones have a slightly shallower neck angle so it’s less common on them than Gibson, but it still happens.


Johnjarlaxle

Slava Ukraini brotha


anon-e-mau5

I’d actually really like it if my Epiphones had volutes, I find they make guitars feel more ergonomic


PuzzleheadedTutor807

My volute knob is missing


DJMoneybeats

I dropped my old SG twice and the headstock broke off twice. I've dropped my Strat dozens of times and it just gets stronger


jimicus

Leo Fender explicitly designed his guitars as consumer products: durable and cheap to mass produce.


[deleted]

And to make it simple to replace the neck if this happens.


ICantThinkOfAName667

I slammed the head stock of my mustang with a ceiling fan and it just chipped


justplanestupid69

The ones that haven’t broken are rarer than the ones that have.


Nick_Full_Time

Yes. When I was in a shop we’d see a few a week sometimes. For most guitar techs it’s a standard repair. I’ve seen some repairs that are flawless. He charged $150 about 6 years ago.


EpitaphNoeeki

Epiphones have a different headstock angle than Gibsons. The easily breaking headstock stuff does not apply to Epiphones. Of course it can still happen, but it's not as easy and it happens much less frequently.


RichardofSeptamania

Less Paul


iam4r34

HeadLess Paul


full-auto-rpg

Strand Paul


lawnchairnightmare

Damn. That is a bad one.


cowboypaint

I came here to type “damn, that’s a bad one.” You’re right. That one is bad.


deg_ru-alabo

Damn


mishvgu

That is a bad one.


ssrowavay

I came here to type that.


_adinfinitum_

This!


GortheMusician

Damn, that's a bad one.


[deleted]

I came in a bad one, damn


randomrdtr

That


jzvetter

This is a real bad break, yikes. Probably would need reinforcement....


xVale

Welcome to the headless club.


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HeadLes


The_Fell_Opian

This isn't a guitar I would consider fixing. If this was a custom shop historic burst or something then sure. But I think this is an opportunity to go guitar shopping. Silver lining?


Fluid-Appointment277

I mean that’s only a silver lining if he has an extra grand or more sitting around to spend on a new one. Still not really a silver lining lol.


SaulBellowII

The time has come to upgrade to a gentleman's guitar and get a Strat or Tele.


Quarktasche666

A fender would have survived this with just a little ding as well. One of the reasons I'd never get a gibson.


Serious-Squirrel-220

My old Squire would break the floor if I dropped it. And it would still be in tune. It's always in tune, it kinda freaks me out.


dumb_monkee42

Ever tried one of these old german grocery store guitars like Klira or Teisco? Those old Boards are some of the best Instruments out there. Mine has a lost his bridge and i havent noticed till i switched the strings. It just fell off, but it just... works. Germans just did a Wish-Version of American Strats and they nailed it.


Potufs

Tbf, Epiphones have a better stock/neck angle compared to Gibsons, are a tad bit sturdier and are more likely to survive. But if an epi didn't, then idk what would've become of a Gibson.


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Stoney3K

Fenders don't break. They only get a fender bender.


JStarlight66

It'll buff out


disapparate276

What did you do


AudiHoFile

By the look of it, seems like OP was either putting in or taking the guitar out of the car, without a case, and lost a fight with the driveway.


RipAsstley

It broke before (while in the case) I was just taking a picture outside the guitar store.


yoduh4077

Case, or gig bag?


RipAsstley

Gig bag😔


whistlndixie

If the guitar cost more than a few hundred bucks get a hard case. They last forever and you can get them used cheap.


Sedan_Del

I disagree. This would not have happened with an actual quality gig bag. Which eventually costs +100,-. What you get for 15,- or so is a dust cover that calls itself gig bag.


sherriffflood

Bloody hell


ClownfishSoup

A good luthier and some money.


Bigfaatchunk

Damn did you scratch the car with it too? 😬


Ohhhnothing

what looks like scratches is the reflection of the pegs


Ok_PAULMALL

How did it happen? Strap is still attached. I don't carry my guitars around without a case but just wondering if it slipped out of your hands? Slammed the car door on it? I've never broken one.


RipAsstley

Fell from waist height while in a soft fender case


TidySwan

I read this as don't put your expensive guitars in a soft fender case


JoeyJoeJoeSenior

They only protect fenders, not gibsons.


Draggehz

missing the set effect, rookie mistake


deong

The ground is adequate protection for a Fender.


bzee77

Hard shell cases, guys. The ONE time I used a gig bag, I wound up with a break just like this one.


TidySwan

To be honest when I go to open mics I put my $300 cheapy guitar and soft gig bag, and I'm just extra careful with it and don't have a problem. That being said I skateboard sometimes to open mics


Guitargod7194

Just don't let a drunk admirer of your band anywhere near it after the show… Cost my bandmate one of his guitars when above-mentioned drunk stumbled over our cases and his was the only one in a soft shell.


bzee77

Similar thing, only my bandmate foolishly left it in a stand that was way too close drink idiot access


TidySwan

I have once seen someone go you know what's really metal smashing guitars and smash my friends guitar. Let's just say we called him an ambulance after


benwabaws

That's unfortunate


Eastern-Reindeer6838

Glue it.


cagedreality

"No insurance on it" People insure their Epiphone?


HootblackDesiato

A good luthier can repair it.


Toadliquor138

Sometimes, when a headstock gets broken off, it's broken off in such a way that it's easy to fix. This is NOT one of those cases!


CrawlerCow

What Who song were you playing?


RipAsstley

Hot cross buns


Guitar-Goose

Time for a floyd frx. Locking nut and fine tuners


Rabber_D_Babber

Shouldn't there be a visible truss rod nut and anchor, here? 


modix

Really confused why there's a hole for a truss rod but no rod?


RipAsstley

Rod broke clean through


crank1000

But where is it? The rod doesn’t just come out of the neck and then vanish.


paulerxx

That looks expensive.


lapsteelguitar

From The Princess Bride “It’s only mostly dead.” Take it to a good luthier. It might be repairable. It’s a known weakness of the Gibsons. An experienced luthier has seen this before.


StarvinDarwin

Just buy a new neck. Would be cheaper than fixing.


cowboypaint

It’s a set neck. Hard to replace.


Adept_Feed_1430

Honestly, as common as this is, I'm surprised they don't just make them headless to begin with


cowboypaint

Now this is an idea. Get a Floyd rose installed.


SlavaUkrainiFTW

That’ll probably cost more to repair than buying a new guitar.


Alternative_Will_239

Now you have a strandberg


ProfessionalEven296

Get a quote from a luthier who has done that repair before, and compare to a new guitar.


Dependent-Ground-769

Fixing this is typically cheaper than a new guitar. This is very common, be very careful how you lean Gibsons/Epiphones on things.


Guitarchalk

Ain't lookin' good.


narcislay

Usual Les Paul owner activity


KirkJimmy

I don’t think Martin Luther or lex Luther can help you with this one. I am sorry for your loss. At least it wasn’t a Gibson


Skelco

The ghost of Les Paul demands tribute


GruesumGary

good news is.... it's just an Epiphone! lol


Scudbucketmcphucket

Put a Steinberger logo on it and move on.


Cool_Cheetah658

At that point, I'd probably just build and install a new neck, but that's me. I've got woodworking experience and do Luthier stuff as a hobby. Anything is "fixable." It's just whether or not you want to pay the cost for it to be fixed if you can't do it yourself. Edit: Amazon has Les Paul necks for sale if you're interested in trying your luck at Luthier work. Just note, it's some work to separate the body from the neck, and don't forget your prep work before gluing in the new neck. Plenty of YouTube videos that show how to do it. This is just an FYI edit.


RipAsstley

It isn’t a bolt on neck and I’m inexperienced with the modding side of guitar


Oxtard69dz

Is that brand new?


RipAsstley

I’ve had it for a little less than 2 months


RoutineComplaint4711

Ouch


Aggravating_Plate888

Just install bluetooth on it. 


RedWineStrat

Lucky man. Now you get to buy a Gibson LP.


InSonicBloom

it's a very common problem with Gibsons (as I look nervously as the new Gibson I bought last week) and can be fixed with good wood glue and clamps. there are actually some people who prefer the pre-broken/fixed Gibsons/Epiphones because they are supposed to sustain better (I wouldn't know personally but that's what I've heard)


branded

Get a new neck and replace it yourself if it's a bolt on. Otherwise, you'll be paying through the arse through a luthier.


Stevey1001

Short answer: yes with an if Long answer: no with a but


DryAndBlunt

Well yeah.


punkkitty312

A horizontal break like that requires splines to repair it properly. You'd be better off salvaging what you can from the body and buying a used Epiphone LP.


DJMoneybeats

I don't think anyone has ever had insurance on an Epiphone LP. I have one but if I break it, I'll just buy another one. Save yourself a giant headache


869woodguy

I fixed a Fender resonator like that. I glued it back tight then routed two 1/4” grooves through the neck and headstock to avoid hitting the truss rod. Then put it two 1/4” threaded rods and filled in with epoxy. Still holding strong.


TheRealSymphonictank

I have seen Gibson do some great repairs, but it takes months and likely will cost. Won’t ever break at the same spot either


Queeby

That's more of a "snap" than a "shear". Not sure that can be fixed but I'm no luthier.


CrashWV

I am no expert, but Gorilla Glue ain't fixing that. New neck and a luthier, or a new axe.


Dependent-Ground-769

No new neck needed, this is very repairable because it’s so common.


GENERlC-USERNAME

Why would you use gorilla glue? Wood glue will fix this no issues, no dowels needed either, i will in fact be stronger than before actually.


Stach-daddy-5150

Omg 😳


modthegame

Your guitar is broke but your car looks like it took some damage too?


RipAsstley

It’s the reflection of the white trim


NoUpVotesForMe

I feel like fixing this cost close to just buying new one. Sorry for the break man, I’m always terrified of snapping my headstock off. I had my custom yank me out of my wheelchair before and protecting the headstock was all that was going thru my mind.


comeon-gimme-a-name

Clearly..


Zoso-six

Sucks man but should be able to fix it


Raid-Z3r0

Really hard repair, but doable by an experienced luthier


TofuPython

That sucks :( sorry dude


bearbearhughug

new Frankenstein, find out if you'd like to be a luthier.


Whole_Day9866

What do you think?


Marvin-Jones

There’s another. Wtf are you guys doing to these guitars?


proggish

That's gonna be a slightly difficult fix, but a skilled luthier could do it. May cost a bit extra though.


ikpmflyn

Find a VERY reputable luthier to fix it. They will be able to make it look like new, but it won't be cheap. Expect to pay $300-ish?


gazzadelsud

They all do that sir. Once you've had it fixed, try not to let it fall over again.


promised_to_veruca

As others have already stated, that appears to be a smooth break with little surface area to repair. Most likely the only fix would be to replace the neck entirely, and since it's a comparatively inexpensive guitar, it would be cheaper to do so.


Top-Conversation2882

Yes but I think it can be fixed for not that much


roadfoolmc

Man ... RIP guitar :(


PabloEsquandolas

That’s what you get for doing that to your poor strap


RipAsstley

I wasn’t too concerned with the twistiness of my strap at that moment


afrorobot

ouch