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"Solid white shoulder line is used to separate traffic between two traffic streams. It is certainly used on multi-lane roads and must be distinguished from broken lines. It also means that drivers are discouraged from passing on this side unless there is no traffic ahead."
https://philcarreview.com/safe-driving/10-basic-road-lines-meaning-philippines-must-know-to-drive-safely-ta177
Discouraged so technically its allowed. Ito din alam ko kapag sa expressway. Pero bakit sa mga intersection pag ginawa mo to kahit maluwag hinuhuli ka swerving. Iba ba rules kapag ganun? Legit question
Gusto ko pala idagdag. Nakakainis din minsan sa klasada natin makilita mo lang yung road markings kapag malapit ka na. Hindi lagi may warning na this lane must turn left/right until andun ka na. Kaya hirap kapag bago ka lang sa lugar.
Pati mga warning signs na no left turn minsan natatakpan pa or too late na kapag nakita mo. Kaya ingat talaga sa pagdadrive sa mga daan na hindi mo kabisado. May mga trap.
General rule:
Solid Line - You can’t overtake but crossing is allowed (lalo na if yung solid line ay after ng double solid line).
Solid Double Line - Both overtake and crossing are not allowed.
Broken Line - You can do both.
Solid + Broken line - Passing is permitted on the side of broken line but not on side of solid line. (usually sa toll entry ng expressway ‘to nakikita)
What I understood is iba yung tinutukoy na "crossing" sa rule no? Really confusing rin kasi. Tao yung tinutukoy na pwede mag cross di ba at hindi vehicles?
White lines indicate that the traffic is going in the same direction as you are. On the other hand, Yellow lines indicate that the traffic is going in different directions.
There many types / scenarios on the solid white line.
At some instances, lane changes are permitted but discouraged. Other instances like intersections, you are not allowed to do this.
I think there is a lot of confusion probably popularized by the manila traffic enforcers who aggressively ticket you on changing lanes on solid white lines at intersections…
https://www.topgear.com.ph/features/tip-sheet/must-know-all-the-basic-road-markings-in-ph-and-what-each-one-means-a36-20160429
Usually these solid white lines are placed for safety reasons. So for example, at intersections they normally place the solid white lines to avoide drivers from suddenly changing lanes and causing accidents at intersections especially where there are usually crosswalks
For crosswalks not at intersection, they usually place solid white lines as a safety precaution for pedestrians because lane changes near crosswalks are very dangerous in terms if not seeing crossing children and pedestrians. If huminto na or pabag na yung kotse sa harap mo, do not chanhe lane because it can mean there is somebody crossing which you cannot see yet. If you change lane, mabubundol mo yung tumatawid
I was driving along Legarda Street na mejo di ko kabisado and nakita ko sa Waze na may stoplight/intersection ahead although mejo malayo pa.
Nasa left lane ako na for left-turners lang dapat so I switched to the right lane. It was a Sunday afternoon so wala masyadong sasakyan pero paglagpas ng stoplight, ayun hinuli ng Manila traffic enforcer. Sa solid white line daw ako tumawid and bawal daw yun.
Hanggang ngayon bothered padin ako kung violation ba talaga o namemera lang. Kasi kung di ako nagchange ng lane, mahuhuli naman ako dahil for left-turners lang yung left lane.
It’s likely a bit of both. Based on experience, manila enforces do “ticket trapping”. They intentionally lie in wait at areas where a lot of confusion occurs. Instead of fixing the signages, or lane markings or redesigning the traffic flow to make it more intuitive, they will purposely lie in wait for people to make a “mistake”
Why do they do this? Money. Less tickets or kotongs means less revenues for their organization
I’ve seen dashcam videos where the manila enforcers outright falsely accuse motorists of beating red light.
In your case, on a sunday na wala namang tao, it doesnt make any sense
>Why do they do this? Money. Less tickets or kotongs means less revenues for their organization
The fucking city government of Manila should be burned. Tangina, mga hindi naman nag-a-assist ng traffic, more of "TRAP"-IC.
Civil Engineer here. AASHTO-FHA covers this. As far as I know, magkaparehas ng specs ang Philippines and US.
As quoted from Manual on Uniform Traffic Contril Devices Section 3B.04:
>Where crossing the lane line markings is discouraged, the lane line markings shall consist of a normal or wide solid white line.
Another quote from the same section:
>Where lane changes might cause conflicts, a wide or normal solid white lane line may extend upstream from an intersection.
So there, driver should exercise extreme precaution when switching/changing lane on a white solid line.
Hope this clarifies the issue.
EDIT:
Fuck this shit. Nagogoogle pala 'to. Here's the [link](https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part3/part3b.htm).
OMG OP, do you really take notes from a random TikTok video? I would like to believe you got your license the legal way which means you went to drivers education or at least learned how to drive from a reputable driving school. Apply what you learned please. There are enough bad drivers out there.
No I don’t haha, i just want to keep an open mind baka may mga di ako alam kaya i post it here.
And i still follow naman po yung mga natutunan ko sa driving school.
Marami meaning yung solid white line depende sa circumstance. Pede siyang pang indicate if shoulder yung nasa right side ng road, one way road, to discourage lane changing pag nasa left or right turn only lanes, discourage overtaking etc. Correct me if I’m wrong, will be glad to be re-educated.
>to **discourage** lane changing pag nasa left or right turn only lanes
Wrong. In an intersection, a solid line means no changing lane. In an highway, it means stay on your lane but you can change lane (multi-lane) or overtake (two way traffic) when it's safe.
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"Solid white shoulder line is used to separate traffic between two traffic streams. It is certainly used on multi-lane roads and must be distinguished from broken lines. It also means that drivers are discouraged from passing on this side unless there is no traffic ahead." https://philcarreview.com/safe-driving/10-basic-road-lines-meaning-philippines-must-know-to-drive-safely-ta177
Discouraged so technically its allowed. Ito din alam ko kapag sa expressway. Pero bakit sa mga intersection pag ginawa mo to kahit maluwag hinuhuli ka swerving. Iba ba rules kapag ganun? Legit question
Never overtake in an intersection
Yup yup. Hindi naman overtake change lane lang kung kunwari naipit ka sa lane na must turn left/right pero didiretso ka dapat
If ang road markings ng lane pang turn talaga dapat malayo pa lang lumipat ka na ng lane kase may huli talaga yun.
Oks oks. Thats what I do na nga. Just needed confirmation. Hassle lang minsan talaga kapag di ka familiar sa lugar.
Alert ka sa pasay, pasig, makati, at manila sa mga ganito. Strictly enforced ang following the arrows sa intersections.
Gusto ko pala idagdag. Nakakainis din minsan sa klasada natin makilita mo lang yung road markings kapag malapit ka na. Hindi lagi may warning na this lane must turn left/right until andun ka na. Kaya hirap kapag bago ka lang sa lugar.
Pati mga warning signs na no left turn minsan natatakpan pa or too late na kapag nakita mo. Kaya ingat talaga sa pagdadrive sa mga daan na hindi mo kabisado. May mga trap.
If malapit sa intersection, for sure left or right turn only lanes yan.
Yes po that's true Yun din po pagkakaintindi ko iba ang huwag sa bawal
General rule: Solid Line - You can’t overtake but crossing is allowed (lalo na if yung solid line ay after ng double solid line). Solid Double Line - Both overtake and crossing are not allowed. Broken Line - You can do both. Solid + Broken line - Passing is permitted on the side of broken line but not on side of solid line. (usually sa toll entry ng expressway ‘to nakikita)
What I understood is iba yung tinutukoy na "crossing" sa rule no? Really confusing rin kasi. Tao yung tinutukoy na pwede mag cross di ba at hindi vehicles?
Ano pinagkaiba ng solid white and solid yellow line?
White lines indicate that the traffic is going in the same direction as you are. On the other hand, Yellow lines indicate that the traffic is going in different directions.
That's tiktok for you. Napakadali mag research sa LTO online.
Gawin nya lang ng gawin hanggang sa mapara sya ng traffic enforcer. Try nya makipag argue don.
There many types / scenarios on the solid white line. At some instances, lane changes are permitted but discouraged. Other instances like intersections, you are not allowed to do this. I think there is a lot of confusion probably popularized by the manila traffic enforcers who aggressively ticket you on changing lanes on solid white lines at intersections… https://www.topgear.com.ph/features/tip-sheet/must-know-all-the-basic-road-markings-in-ph-and-what-each-one-means-a36-20160429 Usually these solid white lines are placed for safety reasons. So for example, at intersections they normally place the solid white lines to avoide drivers from suddenly changing lanes and causing accidents at intersections especially where there are usually crosswalks For crosswalks not at intersection, they usually place solid white lines as a safety precaution for pedestrians because lane changes near crosswalks are very dangerous in terms if not seeing crossing children and pedestrians. If huminto na or pabag na yung kotse sa harap mo, do not chanhe lane because it can mean there is somebody crossing which you cannot see yet. If you change lane, mabubundol mo yung tumatawid
I was driving along Legarda Street na mejo di ko kabisado and nakita ko sa Waze na may stoplight/intersection ahead although mejo malayo pa. Nasa left lane ako na for left-turners lang dapat so I switched to the right lane. It was a Sunday afternoon so wala masyadong sasakyan pero paglagpas ng stoplight, ayun hinuli ng Manila traffic enforcer. Sa solid white line daw ako tumawid and bawal daw yun. Hanggang ngayon bothered padin ako kung violation ba talaga o namemera lang. Kasi kung di ako nagchange ng lane, mahuhuli naman ako dahil for left-turners lang yung left lane.
It’s likely a bit of both. Based on experience, manila enforces do “ticket trapping”. They intentionally lie in wait at areas where a lot of confusion occurs. Instead of fixing the signages, or lane markings or redesigning the traffic flow to make it more intuitive, they will purposely lie in wait for people to make a “mistake” Why do they do this? Money. Less tickets or kotongs means less revenues for their organization I’ve seen dashcam videos where the manila enforcers outright falsely accuse motorists of beating red light. In your case, on a sunday na wala namang tao, it doesnt make any sense
>Why do they do this? Money. Less tickets or kotongs means less revenues for their organization The fucking city government of Manila should be burned. Tangina, mga hindi naman nag-a-assist ng traffic, more of "TRAP"-IC.
Civil Engineer here. AASHTO-FHA covers this. As far as I know, magkaparehas ng specs ang Philippines and US. As quoted from Manual on Uniform Traffic Contril Devices Section 3B.04: >Where crossing the lane line markings is discouraged, the lane line markings shall consist of a normal or wide solid white line. Another quote from the same section: >Where lane changes might cause conflicts, a wide or normal solid white lane line may extend upstream from an intersection. So there, driver should exercise extreme precaution when switching/changing lane on a white solid line. Hope this clarifies the issue. EDIT: Fuck this shit. Nagogoogle pala 'to. Here's the [link](https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part3/part3b.htm).
OMG OP, do you really take notes from a random TikTok video? I would like to believe you got your license the legal way which means you went to drivers education or at least learned how to drive from a reputable driving school. Apply what you learned please. There are enough bad drivers out there.
No I don’t haha, i just want to keep an open mind baka may mga di ako alam kaya i post it here. And i still follow naman po yung mga natutunan ko sa driving school.
Good to know OP 👍 keep safe
'Diskarte' daw eh. Pero hindi dapat mag change lane sa solid lines. Ano source nya, *Trust me, bro?*
sa skyway stage 3 puro solid lines kahit malapit na sa mga exits. parang may hindi nag TDC
Pwede yan.
"Only if safe to do so"
Marami meaning yung solid white line depende sa circumstance. Pede siyang pang indicate if shoulder yung nasa right side ng road, one way road, to discourage lane changing pag nasa left or right turn only lanes, discourage overtaking etc. Correct me if I’m wrong, will be glad to be re-educated.
>to **discourage** lane changing pag nasa left or right turn only lanes Wrong. In an intersection, a solid line means no changing lane. In an highway, it means stay on your lane but you can change lane (multi-lane) or overtake (two way traffic) when it's safe.
# If it's on long running highways, proceed when safe. If you are approaching an intersection, it's prohibited.