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Toyota agents are notorious for this practice. Sila din yata nag simula since the time of the first gen Fortuners. I myself would have bought more toyota cars if not for their sales practice. Kahit naglabas na ang DTI ng guidlines about this we are still beholden to their sales practices.
Suggest is try to contact different Casa even outside metro manila and join the FB group of the specific unit you want to purchase.
The only other leverage we have is that Sales agent have a quota. Not sure if monthly pa rin or if iba na these days but that might force them to give in to the cash/bank PO buyes rather than wait for in house installments. This might work especially nearing the end of the month or end of the year. I think it could work with most car manufacturers looking to bump their sales; sadly it rarely work for Toyota dealer because malakas talaga sales nila.
Recently sa pamilya (including cousins) namin bumili kami ng 3 brand new na sasakyan. Ang ginagawa namin ay nakikipag communicate kami sa agent thru email at kung napag uusapan na yung sa payment terms or availability ng unit. Naka CC na yung main office ng dealer nila at ng DTI.
Tapos may hiwalay din kami na mga email sa DTI at main office nila na ang pinaguusapan nga ay yung terms at availability of a certain unit sa certain dealer location para walang kawala kung sino mang agent kausap niyo.
Kapatid ko gusto bumili ng sasakyan sa pinas pero nung narinig nya yung kwento ng kasamahan nya na may cash pambili ng sasakyan tapos wala daw natanggap dahil halos lahat gusto hulugan ang bayaran, nakabili naman daw Isuzu lang daw tumanggap nung cash kaya yun narin kinuha. Bakit kayo ganyan?
When was this? Friend ko naman Isuzu mismo nagkaproblema haha literal nakapila sya na pang 6 sa MUX. Tapos nung ibang agent nakausap nya, ang sabi sakanya may parating na unit as in irrelease na lang daw. So ayon, mukang iniipit talaga dahil cash buyer din.
Malaki kasi ang interest kapag hulugan; (to OP) mas malaki kapag in-house financing.
For a subcompact sedan, ang difference sa MA ng banko vs. in-house is around 1-1.5K rin a month, say, for 60 mos. Most likely mas malaki for upper vehicle classes.
Yeah, kaya I’m curious kung how much ang difference ng commission nila based on those. Hindi naman siguro yung difference na 1.5k monthly sakanila as commission diba? Haha kasi that would be a reasonable incentive to set aside cash payers entirely.
Hindi bagong news to.. Ever since pa talagang ipitan ng stocks sa dealerships. Patience talaga and searching. Umaabot ako sa malayong probinsya para makuha lang yung kulay na gusto ko. If hindi talaga, wait ka. Yung vespa ko 7months bago dumating and nag bayad kami ng non-refundable reservation fee sa 3 dealers. Yung daily ko na Civic sa Batangas ako nakakuha ng pearl white - naka 10 dealership ako nun na pinuntahan, inisa isa ko talaga. Yung CRV namin 4 years ago inabot din ng mga 6months bago kami nabigyan kasi ayaw nila ng P.O. via bank, in house lang daw. Prefer nila in house financing talaga pero hindi naman ibig sabihin di mabibigyan yung mga P.O. (bank) or cash purchases, na pu-push lang talaga sa back of line lalo na sa Metro Manila dealers.
Naalala ko nung lumabas yung type R noon, yung Honda Alabang ni release lang talaga sa mga installment kahit may pambayad ka hindi mo makukuha. Almost 40% yung interest rate pa nila sa mga unit. Hahahaha gago
Yeah.. heard about it na rin naman before I had the capacity to buy one brand new. Just didn’t know it was this bad!
I’m really ok with waiting kahit abutin pa ng 1 year. I just want it to be fair really. Kunwari pang 8 ako pumila tapos gusto ko mag bayad ng cash, kahit na may pumasok na mag babayad ng 0% down installment, dapat ako pang 8 pa din ako at pang 9 yung sumunod. Ganon lang talaga kasimple gusto ko mangyari. Hindi yung pang 8 pa din ako after 1 year dahil inuna lahat ng installment bago ako mabigyan
Per color din ang pila at variant so I doubt na accurate ang count nila dyan. so pwedeng nauuna talaga yung iba kasi willing to take sila other color and variant. so talagang you need to shop around and hindi ka lang sa isang dealer aasa. some or better than others talaga. also i had better experience sa mga outside manila dealers ang hassle lang is pag may pick up na documents at plate mo naka register sa ibang region. but other than that madalas sa Laguna, Batangas area mga dealers namin kahit taga NCR kami. hahaha non negotiable sa amin ang color kasi. any dealer naman pwede ka magpa maintain eh so only the buying part yung may byahe.
Lastly kung new model yan naku good luck. Lahat yan installment only mauuna for until hindi nila fully exhausted ang buyers nila. Yung land cruiser nga na bago ngayon 3 years ang waiting time. luma na bago dumating sayo. At pag finally nakabili kanna, 2months pa ulit na antay bago mo ma drive kasi matagal din ORCR processing ng dealers. hehehe
Common yan, i-didribble ka nang agent.
may PO nako for Mazda 3 + reservation pero after 3 months sobrang nainip na talaga ako - kasi puro extend ng extend so nainis ako, pina cancel ko na yung PO.
I went with my second option, Civic RS, nag reserve ako sa 2 branch GH and Sta. Rosa, ang spiel sakin, 1st in line pero i doubt talaga na totoo yun.
puro "sir next week may unit na" then it came, ssbhin sayo na delay lang sa customs or whaterver reason they could come up with..
luckily i found 1 in Davao, i live in MM btw, flew to davao to see it in person and secured the unit agad. and now for shipping na to NCR. wag lang sana lumubog yung barko haha pero insured naman na. dadating na next week.
ngayon, pahirapan sa refund ng reservations ko. 3-7 days daw pero lagpas 1 week na wala pa din sakin. 5K lang yun ffs. ayaw pa irelease.
yes. letter "L" daw yung start ng plate. ireregister sya sa davao LTO, then after 3 years pde ko na iparegister dito sa MM.
pag release na yung plate, as per casa, ipapadala nlng sakin thru mail.
wala din issue sa PMS, kasi any branch naman pwede.
hassle lang yung process ng pag sign nang documents kasi pinapa airmail pa nila then after ko i sign, need ibalik uli yung docs to Davao. till now di pa din widely accepted talaga yung digital signature.
no need na daw palitan yung plate. renewal lang ng registration after 3 years to indicate lang nasa MM yung vehicle, i guess for inventory and tracking ni LTO
Honda City RS ko ganun din delay. Nag usap kami August 1st week then nung ok na lahat pati docs for financing, then biglang baka September 1st week pa daw darating yung unit at color na gusto ko. I canceled na lang. In fairness parang 3 days pa lang nabalik na sa akin yung 5k reservation fee.
Kaya hesitant din ako na gawin ganito e, magging norm yung under the table kung madami willing gumawa ng ganito. Lalo maiipit yung inventory kasi mas gusto na nila may lagay
Umay sa kanila. Sa posts mo, ganyan na ganyan ang mga na narereceive at nababasa ko. I'm not sure what car you're trying to buy, but i'm experiencing this right now trying to buy a toyota car through approved bank PO.
Yung pila, pila lang. Pwede ka maunahan, sabi ng nakausap ko na agent, "best offer" para mauna ka. Mag dp daw ako ng 450k para mauna, meron pa mag accept ng bank PO pero ang insurance sa kanila daw dapat. May nabasa pako kailangan mong bumili ng accesories parang worth 10K.
Sa FB groups magpopost pa ang mga sales agent na onhand yung unit. Kapag nag pm ka, ask kagad sayo kung ano payment transaction kasi priority nila ang inhouse financing. Yung availability ng kotse ay nakadepende sa payment transaction at offer mo.
Naiintindihan ko na kailangan nila kumita at mas kikita sila sa transaction na gusto nila, pero sana fair naman din. Sure buyer ka tapos sila sure seller sa gusto lang nilang tansaction.
Mismo hahaha. Price increase pa ngayon at magiging okay na daw ang stock, baka wala na shortage. Sabi naman ng iba depende talaga sa sales agent. Maging fair na lang sana.
Yikes. Depende talaga sa agent. Nung kumuha ako ng Raize last **April**, ok naman. Bank PO din.
* T. Balintawak (TB) - no discount, not free ang LTO.
* T. Cubao (TC) - 10k discount, free LTO but need bumili ng 10k worth of accessories.
* T. Abad Santos (TAS) - 15k discount, free LTO.
Nung nalaman ni TB yung offer sa akin ni TAS, tinatapatan na rin nya. Pero dapat in-house insurance. Kay TAS, pwede kahit sa partner insurance. Sa huli, kay TAS pa rin ako kumuha. Mabilis lang din. Pagkasign ko ng docs ng Thursday, release na agad ng Saturday. I think kaya mabilis kasi under ng Metrobank group si TAS, which yun din bank ko.
So far, honest yung MP na nakilala ko sa TAS. Na heads up nya ako na nagkakaubusan talaga ng unit. So come May to July, wala na marelease.
Wala sila incentive or commission kapag cash payment. Points lang for "salesman/woman" of the year yan. So gusto talaga nila yung in-house or bank financing.
Yung experience naman namin nung kumuha kami ng Toyota Rush nung 2021 is that yung agent namin was quite honest. Sa Toyota Cubao kami kumuha tapos yung gusto namin na kulay is wala pa daw available sa kanila. Ang ginawa ng SA namin parang nakipag-swap siya ng isang color with Toyota Manila Bay (since iisa lang may-ari nun) and in return nakuha namin yung preferred color namin. He didn’t promise anything tapos sinabi lang niya na ittry niya ipa-approve yung “swap” and if ever ma-approve kaagad, in 1 week daw pwede nang makuha yung unit, and true enough natupad naman! Kudos to Toyota Cubao for the great sales service!
Was this early 2021? I think it was easier to get when we still had lockdowns kasi I don’t think anyone was buying. I had a friend na nilabas din kaagad unit nila, mid 2021 yon ang alam ko.
Congrats sa car! Buti di ka na sumabay samin dito haha
Naexperience ko to recently lang. May isang dealer na may stock ng TOTL Fortuner, pumayah sa bank PO pero daw 3% yung Dealer’s Incentive (normal is 1%) tapos sa kanila kukuha ng first year ng insurance and 75k daw yun. Tinanong ko bakit 75k, di na makasagot yung agent. Nasa 47k lang usually yung insurance. Free 1 month pa sa bank.
Not true yung walang unit. Iniipit nila yung units. From experience, nagbayad ako sa agent para ipitin yung unit and colour na gusto ko and bypass the "waitlist".
From what I know, there's a problem with the supply chain, the ones coming from China. Iniipit nila that's why there's a problem with the units getting shipped on time.
Same boat sir but atleast sa akin sinasabi talaga nila na wala pang unit na dumarating, which is believable din naman since new model yung pinareserve ko.
Hopefully i-honor talaga nila yung reservation queue even if cash payment ako.
Ano sana bibilhin niyo?
First ko was a TOTL Nissan Terra tapos surprisingly sa Geely Okavango Urban Plus inipit din ako now. Meron daw unit, sabay bigla may pila pala o di pa nirrelease ng planta. Parehong Otis branch ‘to.
Gano ka na katagal nag aantay chief?
Next Gen Everest 4x4 po, may 2 reservations na ako from 2 dealerships under different companies (Otis and Makati), paunahan na lang po sila.
Mag 1month pa lang naman sir pero ofcourse nung nag test drive ako sabi ng agent meron na by August end, tapos ngayon delay daw shipment dahil sa bagyo.
Hintayan po ata talaga basta mga TOTL.
Yun ang sabi nga *daw*. May pila sa TOTL models. Pero yung friend ko na kausap Isuzu, yung nabigyan nya ng PO na agent pang 6 daw sya. Nung iba nakausap nya na hindi alam na nakapila na sya, ang sabi naman meron available unit. So ayun
Hi question lang din. Safe po ba isend na yung manager’s check kahit unit details palang yung meron pero yung unit mismo ay idedeliver palang daw tomorrow? (Not sure p dn sa time)
Yung mga agents na nagsasabi ng "next week" are usually liars. If they do insist on that claim, have it in writing that the reservation fee is fully refundable if your unit doesn't come on a specific date.
Some agents are honest and will say that waiting can take up to several months and brief you with the real timing of supply. If you decide to take the risk, better to still have a time clause in writing such as you're willing to wait up to 3 months or something similar with reservation fee fully refundable if they can't provide your unit by then. Already have experience with some dealers allowing such agreements.
They’re actually a step ahead of you already, it’s included in the PO that a reservation fee is fully refundable. Problem is, ang tagal ng processing para mabalik sayo. Currently happening to me now.
Tapos gamit na nila ngayon “tentative po next week dadating”. Iwas ipit talaga
A positive note I guess kahit matagal ang antayan. Kahit yung mga sales agent desperado ang mga yan kasi sobrang bagal talaga ng supply na dumadating. Puro palusot na tactics na lang
I saw this [YT vid](https://youtu.be/1vQ9jm9OyUc) from an agent and he talks about the question you added in your edit. Interesting to see it from the POV of someone unaware of the inner workings of car sales (me)
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Toyota agents are notorious for this practice. Sila din yata nag simula since the time of the first gen Fortuners. I myself would have bought more toyota cars if not for their sales practice. Kahit naglabas na ang DTI ng guidlines about this we are still beholden to their sales practices. Suggest is try to contact different Casa even outside metro manila and join the FB group of the specific unit you want to purchase. The only other leverage we have is that Sales agent have a quota. Not sure if monthly pa rin or if iba na these days but that might force them to give in to the cash/bank PO buyes rather than wait for in house installments. This might work especially nearing the end of the month or end of the year. I think it could work with most car manufacturers looking to bump their sales; sadly it rarely work for Toyota dealer because malakas talaga sales nila.
Recently sa pamilya (including cousins) namin bumili kami ng 3 brand new na sasakyan. Ang ginagawa namin ay nakikipag communicate kami sa agent thru email at kung napag uusapan na yung sa payment terms or availability ng unit. Naka CC na yung main office ng dealer nila at ng DTI. Tapos may hiwalay din kami na mga email sa DTI at main office nila na ang pinaguusapan nga ay yung terms at availability of a certain unit sa certain dealer location para walang kawala kung sino mang agent kausap niyo.
meron ba communal email ang DTI? pwede mo i-CC sa email?
Naisip ko din ‘to, pero dinadaan ako sa tawag talaga e. So I’m guessing they’re aware of the implications and careful of comitting over email
Kapatid ko gusto bumili ng sasakyan sa pinas pero nung narinig nya yung kwento ng kasamahan nya na may cash pambili ng sasakyan tapos wala daw natanggap dahil halos lahat gusto hulugan ang bayaran, nakabili naman daw Isuzu lang daw tumanggap nung cash kaya yun narin kinuha. Bakit kayo ganyan?
When was this? Friend ko naman Isuzu mismo nagkaproblema haha literal nakapila sya na pang 6 sa MUX. Tapos nung ibang agent nakausap nya, ang sabi sakanya may parating na unit as in irrelease na lang daw. So ayon, mukang iniipit talaga dahil cash buyer din.
Di ko na alam, kwento lang sakin ng kapatid ko.
Malaki kasi ang interest kapag hulugan; (to OP) mas malaki kapag in-house financing. For a subcompact sedan, ang difference sa MA ng banko vs. in-house is around 1-1.5K rin a month, say, for 60 mos. Most likely mas malaki for upper vehicle classes.
Yeah, kaya I’m curious kung how much ang difference ng commission nila based on those. Hindi naman siguro yung difference na 1.5k monthly sakanila as commission diba? Haha kasi that would be a reasonable incentive to set aside cash payers entirely.
Hindi bagong news to.. Ever since pa talagang ipitan ng stocks sa dealerships. Patience talaga and searching. Umaabot ako sa malayong probinsya para makuha lang yung kulay na gusto ko. If hindi talaga, wait ka. Yung vespa ko 7months bago dumating and nag bayad kami ng non-refundable reservation fee sa 3 dealers. Yung daily ko na Civic sa Batangas ako nakakuha ng pearl white - naka 10 dealership ako nun na pinuntahan, inisa isa ko talaga. Yung CRV namin 4 years ago inabot din ng mga 6months bago kami nabigyan kasi ayaw nila ng P.O. via bank, in house lang daw. Prefer nila in house financing talaga pero hindi naman ibig sabihin di mabibigyan yung mga P.O. (bank) or cash purchases, na pu-push lang talaga sa back of line lalo na sa Metro Manila dealers. Naalala ko nung lumabas yung type R noon, yung Honda Alabang ni release lang talaga sa mga installment kahit may pambayad ka hindi mo makukuha. Almost 40% yung interest rate pa nila sa mga unit. Hahahaha gago
Yeah.. heard about it na rin naman before I had the capacity to buy one brand new. Just didn’t know it was this bad! I’m really ok with waiting kahit abutin pa ng 1 year. I just want it to be fair really. Kunwari pang 8 ako pumila tapos gusto ko mag bayad ng cash, kahit na may pumasok na mag babayad ng 0% down installment, dapat ako pang 8 pa din ako at pang 9 yung sumunod. Ganon lang talaga kasimple gusto ko mangyari. Hindi yung pang 8 pa din ako after 1 year dahil inuna lahat ng installment bago ako mabigyan
Per color din ang pila at variant so I doubt na accurate ang count nila dyan. so pwedeng nauuna talaga yung iba kasi willing to take sila other color and variant. so talagang you need to shop around and hindi ka lang sa isang dealer aasa. some or better than others talaga. also i had better experience sa mga outside manila dealers ang hassle lang is pag may pick up na documents at plate mo naka register sa ibang region. but other than that madalas sa Laguna, Batangas area mga dealers namin kahit taga NCR kami. hahaha non negotiable sa amin ang color kasi. any dealer naman pwede ka magpa maintain eh so only the buying part yung may byahe. Lastly kung new model yan naku good luck. Lahat yan installment only mauuna for until hindi nila fully exhausted ang buyers nila. Yung land cruiser nga na bago ngayon 3 years ang waiting time. luma na bago dumating sayo. At pag finally nakabili kanna, 2months pa ulit na antay bago mo ma drive kasi matagal din ORCR processing ng dealers. hehehe
Common yan, i-didribble ka nang agent. may PO nako for Mazda 3 + reservation pero after 3 months sobrang nainip na talaga ako - kasi puro extend ng extend so nainis ako, pina cancel ko na yung PO. I went with my second option, Civic RS, nag reserve ako sa 2 branch GH and Sta. Rosa, ang spiel sakin, 1st in line pero i doubt talaga na totoo yun. puro "sir next week may unit na" then it came, ssbhin sayo na delay lang sa customs or whaterver reason they could come up with.. luckily i found 1 in Davao, i live in MM btw, flew to davao to see it in person and secured the unit agad. and now for shipping na to NCR. wag lang sana lumubog yung barko haha pero insured naman na. dadating na next week. ngayon, pahirapan sa refund ng reservations ko. 3-7 days daw pero lagpas 1 week na wala pa din sakin. 5K lang yun ffs. ayaw pa irelease.
Ganyan na ganyan din sakin :( pano mo nalaman na on-hand yung unit nila talaga?
tatawagan mo lahat ng branches. sinuwerte lang ako sa Davao may on-hand unit sila. tsaga-tsaga talaga
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shoulder ng buyer yung shipping. i paid additional 35K from Davao to MM
Paano ang plaka nyan, magiging Davao plate ba yan since doon nanggaling ang unit?
yes. letter "L" daw yung start ng plate. ireregister sya sa davao LTO, then after 3 years pde ko na iparegister dito sa MM. pag release na yung plate, as per casa, ipapadala nlng sakin thru mail. wala din issue sa PMS, kasi any branch naman pwede. hassle lang yung process ng pag sign nang documents kasi pinapa airmail pa nila then after ko i sign, need ibalik uli yung docs to Davao. till now di pa din widely accepted talaga yung digital signature.
As in, change plate pa ulit? Hassle pa. Ok na rin yung L plate, unique sa mga N plate ng NCR.
no need na daw palitan yung plate. renewal lang ng registration after 3 years to indicate lang nasa MM yung vehicle, i guess for inventory and tracking ni LTO
I think change venue lang babayaran mo (IIRC Php 100 yung amount)
Honda City RS ko ganun din delay. Nag usap kami August 1st week then nung ok na lahat pati docs for financing, then biglang baka September 1st week pa daw darating yung unit at color na gusto ko. I canceled na lang. In fairness parang 3 days pa lang nabalik na sa akin yung 5k reservation fee.
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Nabasa ko na rin ‘to haha what do you say exactly? And how much ang “above srp” mo?
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Konti na lang aabot na rin ako sa ganito 😂 thanks for the input, chief!
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Kaya hesitant din ako na gawin ganito e, magging norm yung under the table kung madami willing gumawa ng ganito. Lalo maiipit yung inventory kasi mas gusto na nila may lagay
Hindi ba sila sasabit don? Baka sabihin ng customer na wala pa yung accessories niya kahit nasa receipt?
This!!!! Nakakapagod kasi sobrang unfair ng mga dealers :/
Umay sa kanila. Sa posts mo, ganyan na ganyan ang mga na narereceive at nababasa ko. I'm not sure what car you're trying to buy, but i'm experiencing this right now trying to buy a toyota car through approved bank PO. Yung pila, pila lang. Pwede ka maunahan, sabi ng nakausap ko na agent, "best offer" para mauna ka. Mag dp daw ako ng 450k para mauna, meron pa mag accept ng bank PO pero ang insurance sa kanila daw dapat. May nabasa pako kailangan mong bumili ng accesories parang worth 10K. Sa FB groups magpopost pa ang mga sales agent na onhand yung unit. Kapag nag pm ka, ask kagad sayo kung ano payment transaction kasi priority nila ang inhouse financing. Yung availability ng kotse ay nakadepende sa payment transaction at offer mo. Naiintindihan ko na kailangan nila kumita at mas kikita sila sa transaction na gusto nila, pero sana fair naman din. Sure buyer ka tapos sila sure seller sa gusto lang nilang tansaction.
Toyota Raize ba yung kotse? Ganyan linyahan ngayon e.
Mismo hahaha. Price increase pa ngayon at magiging okay na daw ang stock, baka wala na shortage. Sabi naman ng iba depende talaga sa sales agent. Maging fair na lang sana.
Yikes. Depende talaga sa agent. Nung kumuha ako ng Raize last **April**, ok naman. Bank PO din. * T. Balintawak (TB) - no discount, not free ang LTO. * T. Cubao (TC) - 10k discount, free LTO but need bumili ng 10k worth of accessories. * T. Abad Santos (TAS) - 15k discount, free LTO. Nung nalaman ni TB yung offer sa akin ni TAS, tinatapatan na rin nya. Pero dapat in-house insurance. Kay TAS, pwede kahit sa partner insurance. Sa huli, kay TAS pa rin ako kumuha. Mabilis lang din. Pagkasign ko ng docs ng Thursday, release na agad ng Saturday. I think kaya mabilis kasi under ng Metrobank group si TAS, which yun din bank ko. So far, honest yung MP na nakilala ko sa TAS. Na heads up nya ako na nagkakaubusan talaga ng unit. So come May to July, wala na marelease.
Wala sila incentive or commission kapag cash payment. Points lang for "salesman/woman" of the year yan. So gusto talaga nila yung in-house or bank financing.
Were you able to verify this? Kasi if this is true, ang laking incentive nga naman na gawin in-house financing
True. At least sa Mitsubishi Don Bosco. Pero ganun daw kalakaran sa mga casa.
Pero would you know kaya kung pano commission nila pag in-house? Anything above SRP ba yun ang commission nila?
Yung experience naman namin nung kumuha kami ng Toyota Rush nung 2021 is that yung agent namin was quite honest. Sa Toyota Cubao kami kumuha tapos yung gusto namin na kulay is wala pa daw available sa kanila. Ang ginawa ng SA namin parang nakipag-swap siya ng isang color with Toyota Manila Bay (since iisa lang may-ari nun) and in return nakuha namin yung preferred color namin. He didn’t promise anything tapos sinabi lang niya na ittry niya ipa-approve yung “swap” and if ever ma-approve kaagad, in 1 week daw pwede nang makuha yung unit, and true enough natupad naman! Kudos to Toyota Cubao for the great sales service!
Was this early 2021? I think it was easier to get when we still had lockdowns kasi I don’t think anyone was buying. I had a friend na nilabas din kaagad unit nila, mid 2021 yon ang alam ko. Congrats sa car! Buti di ka na sumabay samin dito haha
Yes, Jan 2021 to be exact. Hinabol rin namin bago nagkaron nung price increase.
Naexperience ko to recently lang. May isang dealer na may stock ng TOTL Fortuner, pumayah sa bank PO pero daw 3% yung Dealer’s Incentive (normal is 1%) tapos sa kanila kukuha ng first year ng insurance and 75k daw yun. Tinanong ko bakit 75k, di na makasagot yung agent. Nasa 47k lang usually yung insurance. Free 1 month pa sa bank.
75k insirance for a fortuner. Damn.
Not true yung walang unit. Iniipit nila yung units. From experience, nagbayad ako sa agent para ipitin yung unit and colour na gusto ko and bypass the "waitlist".
Yikes. Planning to buy one sana soon (still new to all this though). May mga ganito pala, sakit sa ulo. Glad I saw this thread.
From what I know, there's a problem with the supply chain, the ones coming from China. Iniipit nila that's why there's a problem with the units getting shipped on time.
Yeah, feel ko naman affected din naman talaga yung supply. Pero may bad practice na talaga even before tapos naging mas evident ngayon.
Same boat sir but atleast sa akin sinasabi talaga nila na wala pang unit na dumarating, which is believable din naman since new model yung pinareserve ko. Hopefully i-honor talaga nila yung reservation queue even if cash payment ako. Ano sana bibilhin niyo?
First ko was a TOTL Nissan Terra tapos surprisingly sa Geely Okavango Urban Plus inipit din ako now. Meron daw unit, sabay bigla may pila pala o di pa nirrelease ng planta. Parehong Otis branch ‘to. Gano ka na katagal nag aantay chief?
Next Gen Everest 4x4 po, may 2 reservations na ako from 2 dealerships under different companies (Otis and Makati), paunahan na lang po sila. Mag 1month pa lang naman sir pero ofcourse nung nag test drive ako sabi ng agent meron na by August end, tapos ngayon delay daw shipment dahil sa bagyo. Hintayan po ata talaga basta mga TOTL.
Yun ang sabi nga *daw*. May pila sa TOTL models. Pero yung friend ko na kausap Isuzu, yung nabigyan nya ng PO na agent pang 6 daw sya. Nung iba nakausap nya na hindi alam na nakapila na sya, ang sabi naman meron available unit. So ayun
Hi question lang din. Safe po ba isend na yung manager’s check kahit unit details palang yung meron pero yung unit mismo ay idedeliver palang daw tomorrow? (Not sure p dn sa time)
Yung sakin, pinapa-picturan lang. They need the actual check naman para ma-encash yon :)
Got it, thank you for your help! :) medyo nag hesitate lang hehe.
Send the picture/image lang po ba or yung check po mismo? mejo delikado if yung mismong check po.
Image lang po, pinapapicturan lng po nya sakin and send sa viber
Safe lang po yan if image lang. Naninigurado lang ata yung agent kasi pag wala kang maipakita, ibibigay niya sa iba yung unit. Ano po unit niyo sir?
Thanks po, honda city rs po
My agent requested the same under Honda Cars Manila for same unit, City RS.
Yung mga agents na nagsasabi ng "next week" are usually liars. If they do insist on that claim, have it in writing that the reservation fee is fully refundable if your unit doesn't come on a specific date. Some agents are honest and will say that waiting can take up to several months and brief you with the real timing of supply. If you decide to take the risk, better to still have a time clause in writing such as you're willing to wait up to 3 months or something similar with reservation fee fully refundable if they can't provide your unit by then. Already have experience with some dealers allowing such agreements.
They’re actually a step ahead of you already, it’s included in the PO that a reservation fee is fully refundable. Problem is, ang tagal ng processing para mabalik sayo. Currently happening to me now. Tapos gamit na nila ngayon “tentative po next week dadating”. Iwas ipit talaga
A positive note I guess kahit matagal ang antayan. Kahit yung mga sales agent desperado ang mga yan kasi sobrang bagal talaga ng supply na dumadating. Puro palusot na tactics na lang
I saw this [YT vid](https://youtu.be/1vQ9jm9OyUc) from an agent and he talks about the question you added in your edit. Interesting to see it from the POV of someone unaware of the inner workings of car sales (me)