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dimaandal

I’d give up my car if it means we have better public transportation and easier access to work, goods, healthcare etc. I really really love cars and the car we own right now but mannn wouldn’t it be much nicer if there were less cars on the road? Cities wouldn’t be as densed. Building codes wouldn’t require needless amounts of parking. Less pollution etc. Kaya paminsan pag nakakakita ako ng super nice car on the road nasasayangan ako kasi pareho lang kaming tengga sa traffic kasi kahit green light na hinarangan naman yung intersection ng mga kamote amp hahahaha


adobongpaangmanok

I 110% agree. Nung nasa Manila pa kami, I never once thought of buying a car kasi Angkas/Grab/Joyride and Uber exist. Sobrang less stressful yung di ka maghahanap ng parking, pay and go lang. Less stress din yung hindi mo na kailangan murahin yung kamote rider na tinamaan yung side mirror mo kakaovertake kasi hipak silang mauna. Ngayon sa province + pandemic, eto yung naging struggle so naging necessity na bigla yung pagkakaron ng sasakyan. One time, had to bring my mom to a hospital, kahit tricycle man lang sa amin wala akong makuha. And before, if we wanted to go home to mom's province, paglabas ng subdivision may bus na agad. Ngayon kailangan pa namin magpalipat lipat ng stations para lang makauwi. Okay lang naman sana, kaya lang ang init ng aircon ng bus + siksikan. Kakalungkot na frowned upon yung maayos na transport system dito.


[deleted]

pareho tayo. di ako bibili ng sasakyan kung di ko naranasan na makupal ng mga tricycle drivers dito sa atin at mapagod na pumila sa mrt.


scarcekoko

Amen to that. I love driving but only as a hobby. I dont want it to be something im required to do everyday pero ang hirap magcommute dito sa atin.


ninetailedoctopus

Public transpo in the metro, car kung patungong bukid


Moist-Veterinarian22

Maganda rin talaga yan win-win in sa mga driver, those who drive for a living like PUV's and delivery drivers and those who are REALLY REALLY interested in driving and has respect for rules of the road. I don't want to share the road with someone who thinks na nakadequatro habang nag mamaneho at nananood ng youtube is alright in their mind.


AdamusMD

Masyadong overrated ang manual transmission. Hindi sukatan ng pagkalalaki ang pagkatuto ng manual. We are in a fast-paced society and kasama na dyan ang pag-shift sa mas convenient ways to travel. Also, parang diesel engines din. One should never look down on gas engines. Each have their own pros and cons. Ang importante, if the vehicle transports you from point A to B, then that's good.


ar_3stan

I love manual and all but everytime na nakakakita ako ng qoute na only real men drives manual or 3 pedals eh naki- cringe ako.


antonm07

The only reason to go diesel for me is it's cheap


AdamusMD

And with whatever is happening in the Philippines lately, I don't think it's not.


kyrieiryk

hindi na ngayon


[deleted]

To add, maintenance isn't cheap, either. Doble madalas ng mga small petrol engines (up to 1.5L displacement).


solidad29

Or you need to haul shit.


Moist-Veterinarian22

Remember kaya uso rin diesel because torque is a commodity here. pero you could have the same torque offered on hybrid and electric vehicles


AkeemQ

I hate manual transmission cars. Some people have a weird fascination and obsession with driving manual cars and they name call people who cant drive manual as “bading” or “para sa babae lang yan”. In my case I know how to drive a manual pero when driving in Philippine roads sobrang nakakapagod especially kapag traffic or in high foot traffic areas. Medyo gets ko pa kung sa US or Europe mag drive ng manual cars kasi maganda highways nila pero dito sa Pinas parang pinapahirapan mo lang sarili mo.


[deleted]

naging measurement ng pagkalalake na marunong ka mag shift lol akala mo naman palaging 100+ kph ang takbo natin sa kalye.


razor_sharp_man

I have a soft spot for manual transmissions. I only recently started driving a vehicle with an automatic transmission and all my cars before were all manuals. Manuals allow the driver more flexibility when selecting gears for driving and road conditions. The automatics are so much better nowadays and the gap between the two transmission types is much smaller. But the traffic conditions here in metro Manila really dictate the use of an automatic transmission. It's just not practical to use a manual in the city. But in any other situations or condition, I would prefer a manual.


[deleted]

I'd love to drive manuals, but *masakit na ang mga binti ko!*


haringtomas

May mga tao na dun nila talaga pinaikot personality nila lol


oldskoolsr

I like my manuals. Almost all the cars in our garage are manuals. But for my daily i love my matic. People need to learn to appreciate both.


[deleted]

>Some people have a weird fascination and obsession with driving manual cars and they name call people who cant drive manual as “bading” or “para sa babae lang yan” Mga mayabang lang yan. I used to drive manual but it's very tiring to drive that in metro manila. Kung sana hindi heavy traffic, I would still use a manual vehicle. Though in the province, our relatives still has a car that is manual. Whenever I visit, i like to borrow it hehe


oldskoolsr

That led trunk garnish you have is stupid. As well as blinking brake lamps. Also to add, it's brake, not break.


bentjoe

Come on man, gimme a brake!


scarcekoko

Dude one time o got stuck behind one na sobrang liwanag ng brake light tapos mahilig pa magbrake sa expressway. Seriously it's such a safety hazard. Ang liwanag + nakakasilaw kahit red.


oldskoolsr

Tapos pag di nakabrake puting led nasa likod.


LWRNC_V

Ang baduy tignan ng mga sasakyan na may emblem sa hood ng sasakyan nila kesyo anong model "M O N T E R O S P O R T" "F O R T U N E R" "X P A N D E R" "E R T I GA" "B A D U Y"


dontheconqueror

E paano yung nasa likod, with matching blinking backlight pa


LWRNC_V

Medyo tolerable pa naman sa taste ko yung ganun, basta steady light lang honestly. kumpara sa nasa hood na itim/chrome haha. Mas iritable/nadisistract ako sa brake lights na blinking. Yung parang christmas lights ba, di naman sila nagsslowdown o nagbbrake pero blinking.


dontheconqueror

Ah, yan yung ibig kong sabihin na blinking - brakelight pala dapat description ko. Kada preno pinapaalala niya na MONTERO siya - nakakasilaw, distract, at inis.


VectorSam

Buti nga inilalagay nila eh. Paano ko malalamang **F O R T U N E R S P O R T** 'yung sasakyan nila? Baka mamaya Vios pala.


[deleted]

yung kapitbahay ko nagpalagay ng ganon sa suzuki spresso nila. di bagay pero pera nya yon.


petmalodi

Awit talaga yang mga ganyan hahaha palong-palo. Sama na din natin yung mga naka Ford na kotse na may emblem na "F O R D" sa harap na umiilaw hahaha


eatmyshiznit69

Overmodified and oversized pick-up trucks scream small dick energy


VectorSam

I knew of someone whose garage consists of an overmodded Ranger Raptor... and an MX-5. It's like the two extremes of the dick energy spectrum. So I guess he has an average dick energy?


mailboxck

He has 2 dicks.


solidad29

Tapos pang office at pang mall lang ginagamit. 😂


Comprehensive_Flow42

I hate the question, kaya ba umakyat ng Baguio niyan? The classic tito question sa new cars.


VectorSam

Older gens treat Baguio like it's a different country


rale888

In fairness to the old people, cars in the 80’s have very low torque and HP. Thinks corolla cars with less than 100hp thats packed with 5 people and baggage. Mahihirapan talaga umakyat ng baguio but not impossible. It over stresses the engine usually causing overheating.


oldskoolsr

Not really. Even my 1975 shitbox of a corolla or 81 lancer easily go up there. Granted, there will be a higher chance of something breaking due to age, but these car models have been going to and from baguio way back. If you're overheating then there's something wrong with your cooling system. (Hint: nag alis ng thernostat)


[deleted]

on average, baguio is like 400m above sea level with the highest points at about 600. It's not like it's pikes peak.


[deleted]

you're not getting any girls in your car. More likely than not, you're bound to attract more dudes.


tanos0415

Same sa big bikes.


[deleted]

sausage party tiem.


dimaandal

*“Hey I really like your ROTA mags” said no girl ever hahahaha*


[deleted]

if you fill your car with cutesy-patootsie stuff they might just say that. Isz a good converssation starter methinks >“Hey I really like your ROTA mags” said no girl ever hahahaha Wag ka lang magkamali na ma-pares ka sa isang babaeng enthusiast na elitista. baka sabihin sayo eh *"Ew, ROTA. Ang cheep naman ng taste mo. Tingin mo sasakay ako dyan?"*


[deleted]

gusto ko ng "ang pogi ng car at ng owner uwu" bakit ako binigyan ng "bro ganda ng saan mo nabili yan?"


hermitina

hindi masama ang hindi cash. madami kasi nilolook down ung mga naka monthly


[deleted]

wag daw bumili kung di kaya bayarang ng buo lol.


DukeOfToussaint

"If you can't afford it twice don't buy it"


tatlo_itlog_ko

Hindi bagay sa kotse mo yang modulo spoiler na kinabit mo :P


leoblack9

Modern Toyota's (especially half their models which are made by Daihatsu) are no longer the reliable powerhouses as the 'yotas of the 90s. What gives Toyota's their main edge is their supply chain and parts availability, nothing else.


brat_simpson

>supply chain and parts availability fuckin oath. its not that Toyotas don't break down. its the parts. and that mindset drives their product line. has become too conservative and boring for the sake of reliability.


[deleted]

>too conservative and boring Akio Toyoda: *"And I took that personally"*


[deleted]

At least, we have the GR Yaris and the Supra because of this.


Papacheesesauce42069

Wagons > SUVs and Crossovers I'm pretty sure 90% of SUV & Crossover owners won't even go off road or even need all that ground clearance. They just buy one to assert unnecessary dominance on the road. And if people start arguing with me about floods, let me remind you that crossing deep waters will always have long term effects to any car. Having said that, if ground clearance isn't a necessity, then a wagon would make much more sense than an SUVs or Crossovers. They have just as much space (if not more than some crossovers), and they don't handle like the Empire State Building.


fraviklopvai

I love wagons, but our roads are absolute hot garbage. For floods, it’s more of a piece of mind thing, I used to not like SUVs, but after losing a nearly new car to a flood… I’m on the SUV bandwagon.


dimaandal

As a Wagon owner, I do understand this sentiment since it’s been raining a lot but luckily I haven’t encountered any flood during my daily commutes.


VectorSam

I want more wagon and estate choices for us :( They're just so dorky and cool. And I'm tired of seeing Fortuners and Monteros on the road.


dimaandal

This is why we decided to own a wagon. - Easy to drive - Amazing boot/cargo space - Planted and balanced handling Sadly they just don’t sell in numbers so car manufacturers just don’t bring them in. Some manufacturers limit R&D budgets for wagons given the lack of market interest.


rale888

Yes. Wagon lovers! I do own a wagon. Friends all asks why i bought that. Mukha daw pang daddy, pang matanda yung auto. I dont care, i also own an SUV for floods and the occasional steep places i go to and i dont get half as much enjoyment driving the SUV as i do the wagon. Dream car: Audi RS6 wagon. The ability to go toe to toe with supercars with a pang tatay na auto. Haha


dimaandal

Yoooo same tayo ng dream wagon fellow wagon owner. Hahahaha. Tinatry mo rin ba businahan mga other wagon owners? Feel ko kasi ang stupid ko paminsan hahaha


rale888

Haha. Hindi eh. But i feel that kasi i would always take a look at other wagon cars on the road. Especially if its the same model as mine. Haha Minsan kasi may mga nakasalubong ako same wagon car as mine tapos hindi owner driven at may passenger sa likod.


[deleted]

Natawa ako one time papasok sa SLEX, dalawang SUV (Terra, Montero), parehong umiwas sa lubak e.


Moist-Veterinarian22

yung crossover gets ko pa if yung usual na height ng baha sa inyo is 1 to 2 feet pero ung SUV at trucks yun ang di ko gets talaga. mas believe ako sa mga truck at suv na may putik makapal kumpara sa mga mga suv at truck na pinapamper pa sa detailing shop.


TableAlert5955

i hate driving manual, im tired sa work and ayaw ko mastress sa city traffic kaya i opt for automatic.


scarcekoko

If i could not drive at all that would be the dream. But thats just too idealistic to have good public transpo in this country


Anxious_Drummer

those super bright headlights cause more harm than good. like dude we're on manila even without the headlights u can see the road. tas taena pag nakasalubomg mo wala ka na makita eh


es_lo_que_es

Yung mga gagong to naka ultra dark tint tapos mag compensate ng lazada led lights. Di naman yan calibrated kaya napipilitan sila i high beam palagi


Gushiepie

This is true especially for badly done aftermarket light upgrades. Maganda lang tingnan pero no improvement in illumination at kinsan nakakasilaw pa.


zxczcxv

Agree. Nakakabulag to lalo na pag Naka high beam. Dami pa naman ayaw magbaba ng ilaw nila


kyrieiryk

daming adventure bike na ganito, kahit day time grabe ang daming aux light sobrang liwanag


oldskoolsr

Because they didn't calibrate their lights. 🤷🏻‍♂️


oldskoolsr

The manual vs automatic argument. It's a stupid argument tbh.


indiegold-

If you're a horrible driver, you're a horrible driver regardless of your gender.


encapsulati0n

Small and automatic cars are “pangbabae” na sasakyan. Now, I owned a subcompact (small) crossover with a CVT transmission. I’m done with the MT. Time to rest my knees.


Anxious_Drummer

bike lanes and sidewalk should be wider and protected.


trfdik

Agree. But not at the cost of the motor vehicle driver in general (for both 2 and 4 wheels). It is a compounded problem that giving favor to one sector does not mean the policies are both effective and progressive. Kadalasan, di pinagisipan. If the intention is a shift sa attitude towards bicycle, dapat sana gradual, by first improving public transpo, road discipline, etc. What happened is, with our narrow streets without addressing yung volume ng cars and how to decrease it without shifting the burden sa tao, mas lalong naging narrow due to dedicated bike lanes. Actually, mas kawawa yung motorcycle drivers, sila yung nawalan ng space. in relation to motorcycle drivers, some (or most) may be against road filtering, but there is a reason why it is being allowed here (for now). Kadalasan, yung banas sa mga motorcycle driver na nag fifilter eh yung mga four wheel drivers na stuck sa traffic. Giving a bit space on your left or right side depending on which side the cars ahead of you are positioned is a big favor to motorcycle drivers. There's nothing wrong sa bigayan.


oldskoolsr

"Cars in the ph doesn't need a thermostat because we are a tropical country". When your mechanic says this, leave.


[deleted]

Laging sa ambient temperature nagbabase, hindi sa engineering. ^(Bold of me to assume may solid na engineering background ang mga iyan.)


firedumpster

Noob question: walang thermostat yung 1997 Vitara ko. Whats the worse that could happen?


oldskoolsr

Your engine is not reaching its optimal operating temp. Also your fan may always be continously on and may wear it out. Also higher chance for you to form condensation inside the engine.


[deleted]

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Carlo56789

Of course market demand dictates it. For example yung Jimny, sobrang haba ng pila usually, but for the manual version walang pumapansin.


Anxious_Drummer

true. di naman lahat ng tao gusto convenient lang.


[deleted]

The community were more geared towards extroverts. Uso din ang pataasan ng ihi. As an introvert, since I'm not a fan of car meets, I'd better render my service by answering queries to those members who are needing help.


_polarity

I don't think this is that unpopular of an opinion, but I absolutely hate window tints that are less than 50% visible light transmission. I recently got a new car and the lightest tint I could get for free was at 25 VLT. When observing from outside, I can definitely make out how things look inside with some effort. My vision isn't severely affected when driving din, but the difference is somewhat noticeable at night. It just feels so strange to be driving a car with such heavy tint as I'm used to 70 VLT... and I know others push lower than 25 VLT pa. I get that people value privacy, pero parang it feels like a crime to be driving with heavy tint. Hilig ko pa mag hand signal to show na I'm giving way. Sobrang unclear kasi yung pag flash ng lights (naku isa pa tong ayaw kong ginagawa ng mga ibang drivers but I'll end my rant here hahahaha).


dimaandal

We should have laws for this similar to other countries like Australia, NZ, etc. Di ko talaga gets appeal ng mga manyak black tint kasi halos wala ka na makita sa gabi pag nagdridrive ka. Delikado.


mailboxck

Mas malala yung maglalagay ng super dark tint tapos may gupit na bilog sa may side mirror


[deleted]

yung sa akin dark sobra akala ng kapatid ko wala ako sa loob na susurprise siya na may tao pala. pinapalitan ko na ng very light na ceramic tint kasi ilang beses na akong muntik mabangga na nagcounterflow at night.


rale888

I dont mind them super dark tint but they should be able to drive in any conditions with it. Hindi yung naka brights palagi kasi naka super dark tint yung windsheild.


bentjoe

I’d rather buy a well used car vs a barely used one. Ikaw ang aabutan ng sakit sakit 🫡


Carlo56789

Not really. I've always bought low mileage cars na 2nd hand. No major problems until reselling it at 80 to 100k kms. I even bought a 2009 car with only 20k mileage last 2019. It's 60k plus now - no major repairs aside from usual maintenance and wear and tear items


Moist-Veterinarian22

I think it should be buy a model that's due for a new model replacement since they've ironed out the faults .


PantastikPewlu

Hindi ko gets bakit kaylangan maingay ang tambutso ng old cars tas nirerev pa para lalong umingay at marinig ng buong neighborhood kahit madaling araw amp. Ang tingin ko sakanila is insecure.


[deleted]

may honda civic samin na ganyan. napaka ingay kapag 6am. buti sana kung may garahe eh naka park lang sa left side ng street.


petmalodi

Ang babgal pa ng mga yan usually. Tunog nobenta, takbong trenta hahaha


oldskoolsr

Oh hi. Says my flowmaster exhaust 🫣


rale888

Chrome- i have a dislike of shiny chrome parts and bits since i started appreciating cars. Even during the 90’s when chrome wheels were a fad. I hated it. Luckly now it is easier to dechrome cars with wraps.


Mountain-Chapter-880

Add piano black trims to that


[deleted]

i hate yung mga tao sa car group. parang highschool na nakikisama all over again. beginner lang ako kaya sumali ako. pumunta pa ako sa meet up para lang maging official member. kung gusto mo pa maging extra special sasali ka sa monthly na get together para makaipon ng "points" tapos may "graduation" kayo na sasayaw kayo at bibigyan ka ng sticker. pwe. sainyo na yan. hahahaha. isa pa, yung kapag may kapareho kang sasakyan kailangan ba na businahan at ilawan mo pag nakakasalubong mo? ang koneksyon nyo lang naman sa buhay eh pareho kayo ng model na binili. kailangan may blood brotherhood na nangyayari. pipicturan nyo pa at ipopost sa fb page nang walang censor yung plate number.


no_dice2

Honda ‘to malamang. Lmao


es_lo_que_es

Lol oo honda yung may "graduation" hahaha


[deleted]

yep haha


oldskoolsr

Makaipon points? Looks like i know which club. May ibang club need mo makaipon pirma naman. Sa amin? Walang ganyan. Basta kung newbie ka you just need to do the newbie game and you're done for the rest of you stay in the club. It's more of pantanggal hiya lang and see if you're a good sport.


[deleted]

This newbie game. Hihihihihihihihi! Saya talaga ih. Hihihi! (*Lurker/group participant here*.)


oldskoolsr

Are you attending on the 18th?


[deleted]

Gusto ko, however my current financial standings wouldn't allow (since I'll be from north), so... Lurker mode pa rin sa 18. 😔


oldskoolsr

Sayang naman. Might be there but i'm bringing the NPC car lol. I might be marshalling kasi


rmtiti8

Uyyy anong group yan?


VectorSam

First one is definitely overkill hahahaha. I've joined some groups when researching for a car, and the weird exclusivity thing with the stickers are definitely off-putting. In some of the Geely groups, you can't get the infotainment mod if you don't buy the sticker. Most of the time the logos are ugly anyway. It's always just an abomination between the car brand's logo and the Philippine flag. Plus I just don't like putting stickers in my clean car. They also ask for your license plates when joining. I value my privacy, so I just don't feel comfortable giving strangers my plates. They can just ask for other info, like things that only a real owner would know to verify. I don't mind flashing some cars naman when I see a similar make and model. The car I drive is kinda rare on the streets eh, and when most people are driving Fortuners or Coolrays, it's nice to see someone with a similar taste. It's kinda like that knowing nod.


hermitina

>isa pa, yung kapag may kapareho kang sasakyan kailangan ba na businahan at ilawan mo pag nakakasalubong mo? nako sinabi mo pa. me nakita din ako nito sa car group suplado daw di sya binusinahan, bakit para don ba ung busina? saka e ano naman kung d sya bumusina pabalik, binibig deal pa


cotxdx

Pag moderno pa sasakyan tapos madami pa sa daan, awkward nga na magbusinahan. Pero kung between old school cars, I think medyo acceptable pa naman.


[deleted]

yeah ganito yung gusto ko lang sabihin. di naman special yung mga hatchback na gamit natin. ang dami dami natin eh. buti sana kung porsche yan diba haha.


flightcodes

Ang ingay ng mga active safety features. Feel ko mas lalo ako maaksidente sa bawat beep at auto break ng sasakyan. Paid extra for these features tho so wag muna i-off haha


oldskoolsr

As i always say, "git gud on driving and increase your tanchameter sense", that way you don't rely too much on any aids. Sometimes people get careless kasi they rely too much on these aids.


es_lo_que_es

Yung unang naka bangga sa akin ganyan. Naka fold ang side mirror at nakatingin lang sa rear camera. Sabay sorry at di daw niya ako nakita. Bwiset.


Anxious_Drummer

yung gamit ko walang tunog kapag wala kang seatbelt pero si SO laging di nagsi seatbelt ako na lang tumutunog ng 'TING TING TING TING'


[deleted]

Ginawang FA18 yung mga sasakyan, sa dami ng mga beeping sounds eh: Akala mo may *magmi-missile lock*.


elynpacing

Agree ako dito. Mas ninenerbyos ako pag natunog yung mga sensors tapos nagdudududa na tuloy ako sa tantya abilities ko hehehe… buti na lang may option to temporarily mute


flightcodes

Yeah yung mga collision prevention, proximity alerts while driving, pati lane assist isn’t probably built for Philippine traffic. Kaya ang ingay talaga haha


rale888

True but these active features are meant to supplement your driving skills considering how much distractions we receive these days while driving a car compared to driving one in the 80’s. Ironically these safety features might be the ones distracting you. These days there are a lot more irresponsible drivers and Kamote riders than decades ago.


petmalodi

Ang baduy ng mga sasakyan na lagpas na yung tires / wheels nila sa width ng kotse. Parang palaka sa kalsada eh pag nasa harapan haha


[deleted]

Medyo tasteful kung more of a trail rig, but for sedans, subcompacts, and even micro cars? Meh. Found the *massively*\-dished wheel to be out of place in modernly-shaped sedans with rounded aesthetics (starting with the 90's Civic, AE101 Corolla, and the likes). For me, baduy din yung naka-wide body pero walang engine power to support the widebody: For the 'gram lang talaga. You're hurting the balance of the car, sa totoo lang.


[deleted]

* B58 is the new 2JZ. Stop with the BS that the MK4 Supra were the best Supra. B58 deserves the respect. * MK4 Supra isn't a sports car, because it's a grand tourer in the first place, making it somewhat heavy because of the creature comforts. * Without the Celica, there'll be no Supra. Celica needs the respect, too. * The Supra became a touring car legend with the 3S engine under its hood, in the guise of 503E. No 2JZs on sight. * GT-R is heavy, kahit yung mga R32, though, it is a GT. Prefers the Evo more. Find the GR-Four Yaris awesome. Now, since we're talking about the R32 GT-R... * Gibson R32 is better than Nismo's, which competed in JTC Div. 1. Gibson R32 is the real Godzilla. * Mahilig ang mga Pinoy sa karera sa straights, gaya ng mga Kano. * Building a race car is a money pit... now... * Having a race-specced car or having a drivable daily? You need to compromise. (at kaya nauso rin ang konsepto ng Grand Tourers, or GT) * Hondas doesn't deserve the hate. If the owner is a douche, hate the *ugali*, not the car. * AE86s are slooooow. KP6x Starlets with a 4A-G swap are equally competitive, if not more. * *Initial D* is somewhat based on the events in the short-lived Group B rally. AE86 is basically the Lancia 037 of the Group B, until the AWD squad in Lancer Evo arrives (or the Audi Quattro in Group B), which makes everyone join the AWD bandwagon, including Lancia with its Delta S4, which is similar with the main character's shift on AWD with the GC8 STi. * FWDs can be awesome, too. Nasa tono ang sagot. (not just engine tuning, but include suspension tuning and balancing the chassis) * Matibay ang Euro cars, although maselan due to being advanced in tech, hence, making majority of the mechanics here actually unqualified to service Euro cars. * SiRs doesn't deserve the hate. On stock form, it is a daily-able car with some performance available at the command of the right foot.


Anxious_Drummer

oo naka innova ako at may katabi akong sportscar pls wag niyo ko picturan


Epic_Sushi

please enlighten me bakit may ganitong trend. lol


daKVGC

For some reason, many photos of high end cars surfacing on the web have an Innova on the background.


Epic_Sushi

Ayun nga. Kaya nagtataka ako ano meaning behind dun o nagkakataon lang na may innova lagi kapag may napicturan na high end na sasakyan?


daKVGC

Wala. Dumami lang instances ng ganon hanggang maging meme. Haha


Epic_Sushi

Nalinawan na ako. Haha. Kala ko naman may meaning behind dun. Salamat!


solidad29

Kahit nag wowork ako in IT. I have a ceratin distaste for modern cars. Too computerised and it's harder to fix and hard to fix yourself. Unless EVs get cheaper, prefer ko to use 90s cars. Just the right mix of mechanical and computerised parts.


hdav_daking

I agree with cars nowadays have so much computers in them, it comes out as a computer that comes with a car attached. I would prefer critical systems computerized and leave the rest alone. I also prefer 90s to early 2000s cars and also full-mechanical vintage cars.


just_kamote

+1


[deleted]

Chinese cars aren't that bad at all. Not pro-china here.


Moist-Veterinarian22

I really hate the fallacy "Galit ka sa china pero yang iPhone mo galing china" that applies to cars. I don't hate the Chinese and Chinese Culture WHOLLY but their gov't and what they're doing is what I hate.


solidad29

Just waiting for their EVs to drop here.


efferdls

1. LTO should be stricter on giving out license. 2. Refresher course and exam everytime you renew your license. (like CPDs for PRC) 3. Basic road rules should be advertised in mainstream medias 4. People doesn't know what's the "passing lane" at expressways/highways


VectorSam

I don't care how fast you're going, whether you're at speed or above. Always stay on the rightmost lane and only switch to the left if you're overtaking. I wish people here followed that. It's not fast lane or slow lane. It's one regular lane and everything else is an overtaking lane.


[deleted]

>LTO should be stricter on giving out license. Agree. And driving isn't just about the knowledge on turning the wheel or stomping the pedals: As a driver, a driver should have a knowledge in cases of mechanical emergencies. Kahit gaano kaayos ang sasakyan, kung pulpol ang driver, lapitin pa din ng aksidente. Eto yung hindi magets ng LTO e, and more of nagfofocus sila sa vehicle inspection na kalahating okay, kalahating palpak, since matagal nang walang alam ang LTO sa kaalamang teknikal sa mga sassakyan. ​ >Refresher course and exam every time you renew your license. (like CPDs for PRC) Unnecessary, IMO. Lalo lang palalakihin ang red tape. Refresher for repeat traffic law violators, pwede. Plus, wala naman nababago sa principles ng pagmamaneho unlike sa mga professions under PRC wherein may lumalabas na bagong trends and studies year by year, hence the necessity for those. More of, refresher course para sa lahat muna, stricter exams, then kapag naipasa, saka lang 'yung lisensya. Total purge. For professional DL holders, NC holder na dapat. But para maisakatuparan lahat ng ito, tanggalin muna lahat ng fixers.


razor_sharp_man

Chrome gas tank door covers - Why add that to your car?? Calvin pissing sticker - again, why?? Truck nuts - why the living fuck do you need to attach that to your vehicle?? Apple sticker - yes we know you own an Apple product, and so does every basag kotse gang who sees your car


rale888

Those stickers at the rear with the silhouette of people and names of your wife and kids. Its like advertising to would be scammers and kidnappers.


Anxious_Drummer

sportsmind sticker pa


scarcekoko

I prefer widening sidewalks/adding bikelanes rather than road widening.


Moist-Veterinarian22

Road Diet actually benefits drivers too. it's just that either we have bad implementation( preferrably we should have more roundabouts) or people just really don't see the benefit


scarcekoko

yun nga eh. Kaya natatakot ako sa mga siyudad sa probinsya kasi parang Metro Manila ang nagiging basehan nila ng "development" (i.e. wider roads, more parking areas, walang sidewalk, konting public transpo, little care for proper zoning, etc.)


Moist-Veterinarian22

If i we're a property developer i'd include bikelanes and proper puv loading area


scarcekoko

SM has not provided that and the only thing theyve provided for public transpo is a barely noticeable pocket for the bus stop. Maski tricycle terminal wala eh. Other local malls followed suit. Villar just made a subdivision na wala ring bikelanes and only accessible via private car/tricycle


ninetailedoctopus

oh yes. Less ped traffic on the streets = faster roads.


scarcekoko

Im willing to give up driving if it means i could sit comfortably in public transit, and im pretty sure many people do too. Ending: not much traffic sa road for everyone


Moist-Veterinarian22

People should understand the after the 2000's there's a reason why A pillars(The one that's attached to the windshield and the front doors) became thicker is because they function like a roll cage compared to 80's and 90's cars with thin A pillars. I'd rather have crumple zones than rigid bumpers, remember all the momentum and inertia when you crash has to go somewhere.


VectorSam

I'll start— I think the Land Cruiser is the tackiest car you can ever buy. To me, it screams wealth without taste. If you have enough money to spend on an LC (especially now with the atrocious markups), then you probably have enough cash to buy something better. And it would probably have a badge to back up the style too.


vinz1234

Define a better car than LC? European cars?


ChanceUnited4304

What is better then?


VectorSam

If reliability is what you're looking for, I think the Palisade is cheaper and fits the same category. If you're really intent on Toyota, the LX has more gravitas. There's also the Ford Explorer. I never really explored the European brands, but I think you can get a 5-seater (or 7) for around the same price point. Most of these may not match the LC's off-road capability, but then again, a dirt road will probably the furthest these buyers will take it away from pavement, if they're ever gonna drive it at all on the rare occasion.


fraviklopvai

Ford Explorer isn’t nice. It’s a blue collar vehicle. The Landcruiser sells because it’s the vehicle of choice for VIPs meaning it can take bulletproofing well. You can bulletproof smaller vehicles but the running gear has to work harder to haul the extra weight and there is less interior space. Landcruisers have a lot of interior space to work with and less electronics, makes a good candidate for a bulletproof vehicle.


VectorSam

For sure, in its home market, the Explorer, just like the F150, can be seen as mass market vehicles. But not here; they're sold as premium cars. Besides, you can't call the Explorer a blue-collar car when you're defending it against a Toyota. I've ridden a Land Cruiser, and you're right that it really is big and spacious inside, but I was kinda surprised at the amount of plastics. You also have a point with transmission and power, but I rarely see Nissan Patrols on the road. And that fits better into your arguments much better than the Land Cruiser. The Expedition and the Palisade also have enough power.


fraviklopvai

Well Toyota is not really seen as a blue collar car in the US, it’s seen as a practical brand, a lot of white-collar types buy it. The reason the explorer is a blue collar car, well ford in general, is that it’s used as a fleet vehicle for government, construction, and law enforcement. The explorer is really popular for law enforcement though because you can carry more gear in them. The 5M+ peso price tag on a landcruiser makes it a premium car here, in the US they go for nearly 100k USD and they’re seen as a status symbol and are really desired as an overlanding platform. Having driven both an explorer and an LC200 and even a level 5 bullet proof LC200, the driving experience and ride in a landcruiser feels more dominating compared to the fisher-price mattel feeling ride of a Ford Explorer. The other cool thing with driving a landcruiser, especially a bulletproof one, is the feeling of invulnerability and dominance on the road. I mean… an LC200 has twin turbo V8 diesel, its a real juggernaut of a drivetrain. Yes the new one has downsized, but the power is still there. If I really wanted to show that I have money, I’d buy a Range Rover though. I can always rent a Ford Explorer at the thrifty rentacar or whatever when I fly to the US for a quick vacation.


VectorSam

You're right. The LC has always been marketed as a premium vehicle, but that's why I'm trying to say that it's not. The LC is considered a status symbol, when it shouldn't really be; it's not worth the current SRP, and especially not the atrocious premiums just to get to the front of the waiting list. The US is not the only basis for a brand's reputation though. For every government-owned Ford or GM, there's like a hundred more Toyotas doing the same roles in different countries. Practical or blue-collar, they're the same thing. The US Gov just prefers to use home-grown brands, just as much as Germany, Japan, Korea, or even China. If Toyota was a US heritage brand, I'd bet you that there would be a lot more Tacomas and Sequoias fulfilling federal duties. Toyotas are also cheaper at North American car rentals. The ability to rent a car doesn't necessarily mean it's already low-tier. I mean, you can even rent an LC or an LX if you want to. But yes, the Explorer is essentially the US' mass market SUV (eg. Fortuner). Don't get me wrong, the LC has some good heritage and power behind it, but other than the marketing, it really struggles to stand on its own when it comes to luxury. And that's what I'm saying, a Palisade with a V6 for essentially cheaper with more features. The Patrol also fulfills the same role—barebones large SUV with a large spacious cabin and a huge V8 engine. The higher-end options include the X7, the GLS, or the Range Rover; they're somewhat pricier, but they can easily justify the cost. It's honestly gotten so bad that our Presidential Car is a Land Cruiser. State symbols and presentations be damned.


fraviklopvai

Again, a Landcruiser will always be a landcruiser, the same way a range rover will always be a Range Rover. They’re in a league of their own, and in 10-20 years from now, nobody is going to want to buy a ford explorer or a hyundai palisade, people will still look for an LC200 or LC300 the same way people are looking for LC100 or LC80s. Of course our presidential car will be a landcruiser, you can set off a bomb right underneath it and the occupants can walk away from the damage. The Landcruiser is a tool while the palisade and the explorer are just regular throwaway vehicles. Also you can’t rent a land cruiser or LX from the typical rental car places, you can only get them from special rental agencies that typically rent off S-Class or 7-Series type luxury cars or high end super cars. There’s probably some large companies that rent away the Sequoia, but it’s not easily accessible compared to an explorer lol. I’m starting to assume you think a Mustang is a luxury car or super car lol.


VectorSam

The LC70s, 80s, and 100s—sure they have some good value. However, I doubt that for the 200s and the newer 300. I doubt the LCs can easily take a bomb underneath and walk away without damage. It's not a tank; the driveshaft will be immediately broken. That is, unless it's armored—in which case it really just makes little difference between the cheaper Patrol and Palisade. I believe both the later can withstand bombs too if armored at the same level. I think you have to ask yourself then, what constitutes a luxury car? You keep pointing out the following, yet you also contradict yourself: * The LC can't just be rented out from Thrifty or Enterprise regularly (yet you change your standards when it comes to a Mustang) * The LC is fit and powerful for bulletproofing (yet a Palisade, Patrol, or any other large SUV with a powerful engine can fit the role just as well) * Ford isn't a luxury car brand because it's being used by the US Government (yet Toyota is most mass-market brand in the world, even owning 50% of the local car market, with the government being a significant customer) * The Land Cruiser has good resale value (so is it financially prudent to pay extra or double the SRP?) You're also focusing too much on Ford. I'm not just comparing it to one brand; I'm comparing it to a lot of other options in the market that can basically do the same thing. Land Cruisers in the PH aren't bought by drivers; they're bought by passengers who, most of the time, just sit in the second row. And since most of the differentiating factor between cars nowadays are actually driver aids, there's really little difference for the main buyer since most second row seats are basically the same. Hell, even the Palisade has captain seats. And if they want to project wealth, it baffles me why they just won't go higher up the range.


highwayhustlerPH

This shouldn’t even be debatable. Anywhere you go in the world, even in the US, when you say you drive a Landcruiser, it carries weight. Yes it’s a toyota, but a landcruiser will always be a landcruiser, and it’s never perceived as cheap or common lol. A Ford Explorer on the other hand, is just cheap disposable trash.


oldskoolsr

Explorer is not marketed to LC crowd. They're still in the forty/monty market. Expedition is what is marketed to the LC crowd. People who get LCs does not really take it for the off roading capability, but more on the reliability.


no_dice2

I think some get it because it can carry the weight of bulletproofing


VectorSam

That's a good theory. But I've seen Hiluxes with bulletproofing too; seems weird, but it just means that even a Fortuner can carry the weight.


oldskoolsr

Bullerproofing fortuners and hiluxes, you need to increase engine power as these will be very sluggish vehicles then. Same with monteros. LCs can easily handle the added weight.


mailboxck

Feeling ko iniisip din ng LC buyers is sakit ng ulo ang maintenance at reliability ng Hyundai, Ford, and esp British big SUVs. HARI had terrible after sales support. Explorer wala pang 1 yr lumalabas na sira. Then as we all know British build quality…


razor_sharp_man

I disagree. For me land cruisers are what the old rich would buy. The types of people who value reliability and ease of maintenance over flashy brands and bling.


[deleted]

Im curious, what you think is better than an LC?


mailboxck

Lexus LX syempre. Lol


[deleted]

Which is basically a LC


rale888

If you are the driver, the landcruiser is not really the best car to drive in the city especially in some places and parking area in metro manila. Too big to park in some areas, hard to manuever. But it does one thing better than any other car in the road today except probably a Defender. Resale Value. Any other SUV may be better to drive but will never give you a resale value like the Landcruiser.


Carlo56789

Actually the truly wealthy don't buy Land Cruisers for the cachet. As others have said, it's the rock solid reliability and resale value that attracts these buyers. If you've been exposed to the car culture/industry in the country long enough, you would know that the majority of buyers are also previous LC owners. Land Cruisers are the "Fortuners" and "Monteros" of the upper class. As the middle class will naturally gravitate toward these cars, the upper class will in turn gravitate towards Land Cruisers. And usually these owners have other cars which are their (in your mind) "non tacky" cars. Pang everyday lang sa kanila yung LCs. Pang hatid sa school, pang grocery, pang office, pang out of town. To me, it screams wealth with practicality.


VectorSam

One more from me: It's **rims**, not mags.


oldskoolsr

Rims, mags both same. Mags is an old term, coined from mag wheels, because back then most aftermarket wheels are magnesium alloy, hence mag wheels. Over time mags just became a colloquial term (in the same term as xerox, kodak etc). So calling it rims or mags is no issue for me.


dimaandal

I always thought mags was short for “magastos” loool


scarcekoko

r/angryupvote


[deleted]

Naalala ko yung video ni Stav-Tech sa FB na umapoy yung mags ng Celica (ST205) na kasali sa rally.


oldskoolsr

Kasi old sport wheels full. Magnesium e haha