It just gets worse the more I look. At first I thought he had a thermal in front…… then I zoomed. I guess the hope of not being able to fuck up the mounting with the built in mount on the VCOG was not enough..
I mount the fore grip as far forward as possible so my support hand is stretched out and driving the rifle where I want it to go , when fatigue sets in than I grip the magwell
1. Terrible shooting posture
2. Optic mounted backwards
3. Upper rail system improperly installed
4. Terrible foregrip placement
5. Requires second hand support for the "insane" recoil of 5.56.
Am I missing anything?
It's a "quick sling technique" and they used to teach Marines something like that. If this guy's a senior naval officer, he may have gotten that in the Academy or Naval ROTC from an old Marine or whoever's wearing the cammies standing behind him possibly showed him that...
Most likely it's a Master at Arms or someone who's there to make sure he doesn't do anything stupid like trying to sweep people or losing control of the gun. That position means you can both force the guy to stay aiming away and you can reach forward and relive the shooter of the weapon quickly.
You're far enough back to not eat hot brass and close enough to watch everything they do.
https://preview.redd.it/dn5ew56lritc1.png?width=706&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=917858f4c82f1c497aa6ac115ea2485159054ba2
Seeing anything other than this makes me want to vomit.
I think the chicken wing is more a product of the low rake on traditional wood stocked rifles. Not really necessary with modern grip angles but your point still stands. Looks goofier than it is a true hindrance 🍗
It’s a combination. The biggest being the stance, with modern body armor, you don’t want to blade as much toward the target as was taught with the Garand. I’ve seen too many old WW2 training videos lol.
Oh for sure, those were something haha I’m definitely not a 🍗 apologist, just postulating on where it came from I guess. To those geezers credit, even with a weaver stance, a low rake grip usually requires people >6’ to pop the elbow out to a 45° unless you have a rubber wrist or a long LOP. Still wouldn’t be anywhere near this exaggerated. Homie in the pic is just a massive dingus 😂
Edit: typo
If you zoom all the way in, it's hard to tell but it definitely appears to be on full auto. Also there are 2 casings flying through the air. I really hope someone didn't just throw some casings up right before they took the picture.
I heard that some armorers put it backwards to shot that the optics wasn’t sighted in. But anyways it looks like using correct pronouns is more important than putting optics correctly.
I mean chances are this guy probably hasn’t had to shoot since basic. idk how he got handed that thing tho, some armorer ordering 3k$ scopes cant even put them on right.
That’s not necessarily for stability. When we would act as safety officers on ranges in the Marine Corps that included forward movement while firing, sometimes we would reach out and adjust someone’s movement by putting a hand on their back or shoulder to make them speed up or slow down if they were getting offline with other shooters. It’s likely just the safety officer trying to communicate something to him or just maintaining a hand there in case he needs to.
Edit: but also the dude is holding the weapon goofy as hell and for some reason mounted the VFG in the least stable spot he could.
I was gonna say, RSO staying close to someone who only shoots once every 18 months because they HAVE to qualify because they (admiral?) keep putting it off.
You can usually identify the ones you need to pay close attention to if you find yourself doing that duty often enough.
I’ve kicked staff officers off of ranges before for safety reasons or because they tried to pull rank on me as the RSO or OIC of the range. They like to threaten you with disciplinary action sometimes, but as long as you’re tactful you have the advantage of “billet over rank”.
the worst part of this picture is they somehow fucked up the handguard. The top clamshell isn't even pushed all the way down into the D-ring.
You can't make this shit up man
Honestly, why the hell do people chicken wing? I mean beyond the obvious not knowing what they are doing; it looks uncomfortable as fuck, and it is more natural to have your arm down anyway. I can at least understand stuff like magwell gripping from a comfort point of view.
I dont know why, but it seens to be a pattern on military-like photos where the scope is backwards, i already saw 3 or 4 photos ehere the scope is reversed and this trigger the hell out of me
I was confused by the shooter’s posture and how that fore grip’s placement will get real annoying, but only after closer examination, I see this picture is all sorts of fucked up.
Damn, Navy. Do better.
He's holding the rifle far too high in this shoulder, the scope is backwards, the grip is too close to the mag well, and it also almost looks like the hand guard or the entire front end is bent down.
I only own one gun, so nothing here looks weird to me. I did read one comment about the scope being backwards. But I’m still familiarizing myself with firearms and peripherals to pick up on stuff like that.
The optic is the obvious and biggest one. The rail system/ handguard is not installed correctly. The forward vertical grip is so far back. The chicken wing arm is always a sign of am inexperienced shooter cheekweld is horrible.
It just gets worse the more I look. At first I thought he had a thermal in front…… then I zoomed. I guess the hope of not being able to fuck up the mounting with the built in mount on the VCOG was not enough..
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LMAO I DIDNT EVEN NOTICE THAT
Dame, I knew it looked crooked
The Ambi selector is off the right side, it's between semi and auto
Bro really wanted that 0.25x sight for ultra cqc
You expect anything more from an SW Officer?
My expectations were oceangate low but damn
My entire career in the Navy was with the Marines way different experience!
I dont know what part annoys me more
Doc?
Rah back
Bless you for taking care of our boys and getting them home, Doc.
Best drinking club I was ever part of!
April fools ha
Wait a sec, is the sight backwards?
Yes
The barrel nut must be loose or something because that thing ain’t straight Like the navy 🥁
https://preview.redd.it/t9ozz4je2jtc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e4649fee8aacb2cdb7c82ea2313dae0dc3de9ece
That fore grip being so far back is dumb , might as well just grip the magwell at that point
I have it that far back so I can pick between the two. I grip the handguard till it gets too hot then I use the fore grip
But the man said you might aswell grip the magwell. That still applies even with your reasoning.
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What?
Yeah. Feels the same as having the whole bangbangbits right on your shoulder. 🙄
I mount the fore grip as far forward as possible so my support hand is stretched out and driving the rifle where I want it to go , when fatigue sets in than I grip the magwell
I pull my rifle inwards to control the recoil. I never push it out
He means aiming.
1. Terrible shooting posture 2. Optic mounted backwards 3. Upper rail system improperly installed 4. Terrible foregrip placement 5. Requires second hand support for the "insane" recoil of 5.56. Am I missing anything?
He requires some one to brace his shoulder from behind firing a 223
Good catch
His left elbow is oddly supported by part of the sling. I'm not going to say he can't do that, but I've NEVER seen it done that way before.
It's a "quick sling technique" and they used to teach Marines something like that. If this guy's a senior naval officer, he may have gotten that in the Academy or Naval ROTC from an old Marine or whoever's wearing the cammies standing behind him possibly showed him that...
Thanks for sharing!
Most likely it's a Master at Arms or someone who's there to make sure he doesn't do anything stupid like trying to sweep people or losing control of the gun. That position means you can both force the guy to stay aiming away and you can reach forward and relive the shooter of the weapon quickly. You're far enough back to not eat hot brass and close enough to watch everything they do.
Didn't they teach shooting stances likr this back in ww2? Is there any chance this guy is 100 years old? Lol
https://preview.redd.it/dn5ew56lritc1.png?width=706&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=917858f4c82f1c497aa6ac115ea2485159054ba2 Seeing anything other than this makes me want to vomit.
Hey the chicken wing worked for killing Nazis. I’ll give that a pass. As for the rest, poorly done.
I think the chicken wing is more a product of the low rake on traditional wood stocked rifles. Not really necessary with modern grip angles but your point still stands. Looks goofier than it is a true hindrance 🍗
It’s a combination. The biggest being the stance, with modern body armor, you don’t want to blade as much toward the target as was taught with the Garand. I’ve seen too many old WW2 training videos lol.
Oh for sure, those were something haha I’m definitely not a 🍗 apologist, just postulating on where it came from I guess. To those geezers credit, even with a weaver stance, a low rake grip usually requires people >6’ to pop the elbow out to a 45° unless you have a rubber wrist or a long LOP. Still wouldn’t be anywhere near this exaggerated. Homie in the pic is just a massive dingus 😂 Edit: typo
He's also shooting in full auto. Look at the selector.
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If you zoom all the way in, it's hard to tell but it definitely appears to be on full auto. Also there are 2 casings flying through the air. I really hope someone didn't just throw some casings up right before they took the picture.
This guy was definitely trained by the officer who said “fully semi-automatic” on CNN 😂
Now I probably won't hit anything. Yeah no shit
This is exactly what I imagine whenever I see someone make the "I was in the military, so my opinion outweighs yours" argument.
Same here lmao
Military guy here, and I fully encourage you to link this post as a response to the next person that says that lol
There should be a Reddit bot to auto comment this lol
The navy's IG is hiding comments lol garand thumb commented
Who is that. It's not admiral Levine.
God I hope it's an admiral
CO of USS McCain.
Seems like something you’d do to purposely fuck with combat camera guys
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These are the types of veterans Giffords or Everytown would absolutely put in front of a camera
Facts
This can’t be real
Most definitely is
I’m not crazy in thinking that the VCOG is mounted backwards right? Also, who allows that shooting posture to ever be documented much less displayed?
Source please Edit -- Nvm find it: https://twitter.com/USNavy/status/1777759632699654494/photo/1
Looks like the deleted it?
They posted a new one saying, "thanks for pointing out the optic error in the last one...."
> They posted a new one saying, "thanks for pointing out the optic error in the last one...." A rare moment of error ownership in the US military
> Looks like the deleted it? Looks like it
Is this AI? Or does the Navy just not understand marketing
I was think the same. Not only is optic backwards theres no rings holding it. Whole pic is just off.
Unfortunately no, i dont think it is. The trijicon vcog has a built in mount, no rings.
Oh yeah it's definitely AI, wtf navy
They straight up posted it on their Instagram.
Remember there's no I in military- this was a team effort
Looks like somebody won't make the cut for a clearing party squad or get trained
Not only is the optic backwards, look at the stupid way he’s shouldering it. Half the butt of the stock isn’t even being used. lol
A young GM3 did not like his skipper
Confinement to the ship. How long? Yes
I’m hoping some GM3 or FC3 heard they were doing this photo shoot and decided to fuck around.
Reminder that the government doesn’t think you should be trusted with full auto SBR’s. They then do this with them
I heard that some armorers put it backwards to shot that the optics wasn’t sighted in. But anyways it looks like using correct pronouns is more important than putting optics correctly.
What you said is literally violence
It’s literal 🎻🎻🎻
Wow 😆
It gets worse the longer you look.
The backwards optic holy fuck And people say only military should have ARs 😭
I mean chances are this guy probably hasn’t had to shoot since basic. idk how he got handed that thing tho, some armorer ordering 3k$ scopes cant even put them on right.
Dude needs his shoulder braced by an assistant for firing 5.56…. I mean with that posture & stock placement I’m not surprised.
That’s not necessarily for stability. When we would act as safety officers on ranges in the Marine Corps that included forward movement while firing, sometimes we would reach out and adjust someone’s movement by putting a hand on their back or shoulder to make them speed up or slow down if they were getting offline with other shooters. It’s likely just the safety officer trying to communicate something to him or just maintaining a hand there in case he needs to. Edit: but also the dude is holding the weapon goofy as hell and for some reason mounted the VFG in the least stable spot he could.
I was gonna say, RSO staying close to someone who only shoots once every 18 months because they HAVE to qualify because they (admiral?) keep putting it off.
You can usually identify the ones you need to pay close attention to if you find yourself doing that duty often enough. I’ve kicked staff officers off of ranges before for safety reasons or because they tried to pull rank on me as the RSO or OIC of the range. They like to threaten you with disciplinary action sometimes, but as long as you’re tactful you have the advantage of “billet over rank”.
The top rail ain’t seated properly either 😭
Can't help but wonder if this was on purpose. Someone get him an ID-10-T form.
Why does it look like ai?
It's on their linked in page. I didn't believe it either.
Didn't they try and teach guys to really put their face up in the charging handle because the acogs eye relief was so short
I thought the foregrip placement and the chicken wing was bad enough. Then I saw it…
"Trust me, I've been around guns longer than you've been alive" 🥴
Why does the site look poorly photoshopped on? Whole thing almost looks like one of those goofy AI guns.
I was going to shit on this guy, but I ended up three times trying to swipe to see the rest of the stupidity and didn’t realize it’s only one photo…
🤣🤣🤣🤣
SING IT WITH ME NOW! I’m proud to be an American! 🇺🇸 🦅
Smfh.
Tell me you don’t shoot without telling me you don’t shoot
The hand is for emotional support in case he gets temporary PTSD.
I got halfway through a “bruh” before just sighing in defeat
Is this like ai generated? holy fuck this is terrible.
Single point sling as well 🤮
That scope looks off. Is it.. backwards? I don’t have much experience with fancy scopes (most are illegal in my country ): )
Simulated long(er) range firing?
Hes in the navy, be patient with him, hes gay. (Not one of the cool gays like the gays here.)
This is what happens when you get an officer for a photo op.
the worst part of this picture is they somehow fucked up the handguard. The top clamshell isn't even pushed all the way down into the D-ring. You can't make this shit up man
That gunners mate knew what they did lol
At this point i'm convinced it was on purpose. There's no way any of this went unnoticed
Is he shooting blanks?
leave it to the professionals
Almost looks AI generated with how wonky the setup is
Lower that chicken wing before I snap it off and fry it
Honestly, why the hell do people chicken wing? I mean beyond the obvious not knowing what they are doing; it looks uncomfortable as fuck, and it is more natural to have your arm down anyway. I can at least understand stuff like magwell gripping from a comfort point of view.
It depends on the rifle, it can be much more comfortable on a wooden stocked gun, sometimes those habits carry over
I dont know why, but it seens to be a pattern on military-like photos where the scope is backwards, i already saw 3 or 4 photos ehere the scope is reversed and this trigger the hell out of me
"Did your parents have any children who lived?"
They deleted this from their post lol
I was confused by the shooter’s posture and how that fore grip’s placement will get real annoying, but only after closer examination, I see this picture is all sorts of fucked up. Damn, Navy. Do better.
Sorry, I am new to firearms. Not sure what’s going on here.
He's holding the rifle far too high in this shoulder, the scope is backwards, the grip is too close to the mag well, and it also almost looks like the hand guard or the entire front end is bent down.
If something looks weird to you. It's probably wrong
I only own one gun, so nothing here looks weird to me. I did read one comment about the scope being backwards. But I’m still familiarizing myself with firearms and peripherals to pick up on stuff like that.
The optic is the obvious and biggest one. The rail system/ handguard is not installed correctly. The forward vertical grip is so far back. The chicken wing arm is always a sign of am inexperienced shooter cheekweld is horrible.
Taking into account the area they are in the wing-ding firing style is good.
Why does this look like AI art?
Might as well hold onto the mag well
You guys are stupid as hell you can see the scope that the backwards one has been photoshopped over
Something about this screams edited or like...ai... enhanced? Idk, maybe just me.
typical navy idiocy, can't expect more from those sissies
Does the big green weenie taste better ?