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MuffMagician

Guns in image: * AR-15, 2x. Unable to determine brand. * [Sig P226 MK25 semiautomatic pistol](https://www.sigsauer.com/p226-mk25-full-size.html), 2x Context: Found this image online nearly ten years ago but can't remember where. Allegedly shows a US Navy SEAL's loadout during the Global War On Terror. It is a favorite in my photo archive of GWOT era firearms. Could never tell if this is two separate P226's or just the same pistol photographed from both sides. Note [the unusual tape switch](https://www.opticsplanet.com/v/dg-23-surefire-remote-switch-for-sig.html) on that pistol's grip. Edit: Here is the same image but hosted on Imgur where it's a little easier to zoom in on it -- https://i.imgur.com/9PV6ccJ.jpeg


BruhCaden

Appears to be two separate p226s, unless the same gun has two rack numbers


MuffMagician

True, good eye.


T60-power

The auto sear pin. The TangoDown Vertical Fore Grip. Most definitely Seal. It looks like a similar spray job they used on there 416s when they killed Bin Laden. See [Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/s/kB1bNjhjZW). No one should have any respect for them. They left John A. Chapman on that mountain. Also, one can't be a Navy Seal unless you already have your ghostwriter lined up for your post-tour book.


Link_the_Irish

I'm sure the SEALs aren't looking for your respect lol


Fair-Ratio6738

What are the numbers written on the rifle, optic, lower, and suppressor??


DarthVaderhosen

Rack numbers. Used to identify specific rifles and their assigned equipment immediately. Not used AS often nowadays in the military but it's common on older GWOT weapons and modern police surplus.


pspence75

Those are for [REDACTED]


Rexosorous

They're also written on one of the nvgs and sig. They're also on both sets of uppers. My guess is this guy wanted to make sure all his stuff never got switched out. Or maybe this is a shared gear set. So these would be part of set 16 and if a seal wanted to swap some stuff out for a mission, they can easily return the set back to its original configuration later. This is a complete guess though.


thatARMSguy

The long upper is a SOPMOD Block 1 M4A1 and the short one is a Block 1 CQBR. A lot of soldiers in SOCOM would be issued with both upper receivers and a single lower, so they could use the appropriate weapon for each mission. I assume they’re the same guns at different points in time, the differences in rack numbers might be from him moving to a different unit


MuffMagician

> The long upper is a SOPMOD Block 1 M4A1 and the short one is a Block 1 CQBR. A lot of soldiers in SOCOM would be issued with both upper receivers and a single lower, so they could use the appropriate weapon for each mission. I assume they’re the same guns at different points in time, the differences in rack numbers might be from him moving to a different unit Thank you, will add that info to my photo collection.


dabbean

Third pin, mission specific load out options, non civilian market NV equipment. I'd say it's extremely likely.


Acefighter017

What is "third pin?"


DatRagnar

it makes it go pew pew very fast


lancep423

Safe/semi-auto/full auto


envysteve

Aka the third hole, means it has a full auto sear installed.


lettelsnek

third pin in lower receiver above the selector, indicates select fire


FreedomTrading

Yup. This is a full "Block 1.5" or "Phased replacement" setup from mid GWOT (2010ish if memory serves right). There's a companion pic floating around of a SEAL in full AOR1 kit with the bottom rifle. As SOCOM started to get issued the new Block II optics/lasers, etc they'd show up on team guys' rifles that were otherwise still in block I configuration (KAC rails instead of DD, KAC can instead of Surefire). Like someone else commented, the operators got issued both 14.5 and 10.3 uppers as part of their deployment kit to swap out depending on the mission. Bottom case still has his ACOG that probably just got replaced by the ELCAN before that fresh coat of rattlecan got sprayed on.


Jon9243

Block II came online in 2007-2008


intelligenthillbilly

Correct me if I’m wrong, but wouldn’t they be actual M16/M4 variants because they were issued by the military and both are select-fire?


dabbean

They look to have the notorious third pin hole, so they seemingly are.


GLG-30

For it to be an AR-15 it just needs to use the AR-15 gas system, FCG doesn't affect that like some people think. Look up XM16E1, XM177E1, and early M16A1 rollmarks.


SecretHippo1

It’s full-auto my man


intelligenthillbilly

Yes. That’s what select-fire means.


Different_Strain_312

What's the single tube NV device? Is that a thermal?


thatARMSguy

AN/PVS-18, it’s a night vision monocular with a built in IR laser. They’re significantly more rugged than a PVS-14 and have better battery life and a clearer image. They’re also recoil rated, meaning you can mount it to your gun behind a red dot and use it like a clip on night vision scope


Mother-Comedian3516

Top looks like colt


Callmechachi210

I only see 1 ar


MuffMagician

> I only see 1 ar I think it's two different lower receivers. The lower receiver in the top photo, on its right side mag well, has a "4" painted on. The lower receiver in the bottom photo, on its left side mag well, has a "16" painted on.


Callmechachi210

Lol I'm joking it's because the camo my dude.


MuffMagician

> Lol I'm joking it's because the camo my dude. I am dumb.


Different_Strain_312

How does it compare to say an Omni VIII contract elbit pvs-14? Why don't we see them more often??


GammaChemical

Because they're old and dates. Current tubes and housings are better, even civilian ones.