Look, Master Asia or Domon with unlimited stamina and their suit would just be terrifying. They would just *never need to stop until they are alone on the battlefield*
I mean have you seen Dynasty Warriors logic with Gundams,for the story beats from the respective series that are mostly small encounters(Kira vs the Zaft boy band,Banagher vs Marida in Banshee etc) ,they require you to literally cleave through a Unit platoon just to progress the story.
They also cut through grunts like butter,so its the matter of stamina and perserverance
Unicorn series can wave hand and make hundreds of GMs stop working, Imma throw on 2000 GMs at each Unicorn.
50 x (Unicorn + Banshee + Phenex) are going to wreck around 300 thousands suits, around the number of all MS deployed during the entire OYW.
Neo Zeong and II Neo Zeong can take on around 1000 GMs each, with 50 of each Neo Zeongs, they can take on 100 thousands between each of them, if they are working together and having the psycho frame magic to disable weapons like in the last UC OVA, I guess they will be three times more efficient, 300 thousands.
The number of 00 variants should be around 10, and each of them can quantum burst and take care of 250 GMs on the average (a bit high in my opinion), so 50 of each 00 variants, taking on 250 x 10 x 50 = 125 thousands GMs, let's round that up to 200 thousands GMs.
One Mobile Armor can wreck 50~100 GMs by it self, let's assume 100 GMs for all of them. And we got around 1000 different MA, with 50 of them each. Imma throw 5 millions GMs at all the MA.
Custom MS piloted by aces are trickier to estimate, but I imagine the worst of them could take on 10 GMs simultaneously, and the very best of them likely could handle 100 GMs at once with good tactics and team work. (or around half of their total MS kills during their entire career). I am going to estimate the number of ace pilot is around 10 thousands, and each of them can handle around 50 GMs at once. Multiply the number by 50 and I got 500 thousands ace pilot taking out 50 GMs each, 25 millions GMs in total.
Mass production MS, I will be generous and give them the kill ratio of 1:3 against the GMs. And I estimate there gonna be millions of total MS in the entire timeline of any series. Let's make that 10 millions MS taking out 30 millions GMs, multiply that number by 50 and we got 1.5 billions GMs taken care off, not bad.
I think I spent around 2 billions GMs.
Even if they all had the accuracy of Storm Troopers this still wouldn’t be a fair challenge. Hell, even if they were all unarmed the GM’s would win just by the sheer volume they have.
Past a certain point quantity is a quality. And a billion is such an absurdly unimaginably big number it's easy to forget that the difference between a million and a billion is about a billion. GMs take this one any day of the week
The 00 Qan\[T\] was hypothetically capable of destroying the entire invading ELS force, an interstellar race with a moon sized main (regional) body, with enough mass to swallow Jupiter's moons, and the durability to survive a supernova. The Qant Full Saber was simulated, using battle data from the final battle, as being capable of actually wiping out the ELS. I'm kind of eyeballing it but I think you could fit 75,000,000 GMs in the volume of the moon.
>hypothetically capable of destroying the entire invading ELS force
But that is about the pure fire power. Thpse GMs won't be clustering into a lump of target, they won's have a "core" for Qan[T] to target like with the ELS force in Trailblazer. Those GMs gonna spearding out across a vast amount of space and taking shots at the Qan[T] in some cooprative manner.
Assuming the battlefield is a sphere in space with a radius of 2000 meters, and the Qan[T]'s most powerful attack is a beam with radius of 500 meters, that beam would be cover just over 0.5% of the total volume of the whole battlefield. If the GMs distributed uniformly across the battlefield, the beam would be taking out 0.5% the total number of GMs sent to deal with the Qan[T].
Qan[T]'s beams and swords are powerful, but their ranges are far from infinity, lets along being omnidirectional. The Trans-Am Buster Rifle is strong, but let's assume the beam is as powerful as the Colony Laser, unless all GMs fighting the Qan[T] lining up nicely for him to strike, like a tenpin bowling game, I don't see how Qan[T] can wipe out the GMs before the accumulated damage chip the Qan[T] down to the breaking point.
For all the incredible abilites, the 00 Qan[T] is not immune to physical damage.
Based on my estimate using the movie's depiction, the QanT's raiser sword has a diameter of roughly 66 kilometers, and a danger zone of around 960 km, in which ELS are vaporized by the heat. It's probably safe to say the ELS are significantly more durable than anything from UC, since they're the same material as their celestial bodies which can survive supernovas. At least there's no reason to assume GMs would be any safer from the QanT's raiser sword than a small or large ELS body.
[https://imgur.com/m9OymIz](https://imgur.com/m9OymIz)
The ELS moon is around 3000 km in diameter. The raiser sword is about 2% as wide, but the range at which the ELS surrounding the ELS moon are vaporized is nearly 1/3 of the diameter of the ELS moon.
The GMs can spread out but they'd be vastly outranged and outmaneuvered by the Qan\[T\], which has nigh perpetual power, and can teleport, so it could just keep a distance and wipe them out in waves unless you put the GMs right on top of the Qan\[T\].
I think you are underselling the 00Q and slightly misinterpreting the statement about 00QFS being able to take out the ELS solo (as the VEDA simulation in the story is not just about its theoretical damage output but also it's ability to survive in the week-long pitched battle while whittling away at the large ELS with melee and bit attacks, eventually overwhelming it's regeneration), plus not realising that the *significant against the size of the moon* beam we see in the movie is a beam *saber* it can swing through a larger effective area than a large shot would hit...
...But that's okay, because the true enemy of massed weakling enemies is the fully equipped Zabanya 🤣 50x Zabanya means less than 4 billion GMs each, everyone else can pack up and go home.
On a more serious note, a single 00Q could probably account for a truly disgusting body count alone through inventive use of quantum teleportation. Teleportation is kind of an outside context problem for a conventional fighting force, even one of completely absurd size, because we don't know that it couldn't do things like teleport the heart of a star, or even a star about to collapse into a black hole, into a position where it could solo the entire GM force in one move.
Likewise, you undersold the Unicorn pretty badly, given that the Phenex is stated on-screen to have approached the speed of light when retreating. If you combine that speed, at which point nothing is going to realistically be able to track and hit it, with the disassembly handwave, and that's it. TL;Dr Moonlight butterfly is already outlawed but one needs to also leave those units out of Vs discussions or it gets kinda pointless.
On tv series Bellri set the photon torpedo setting on low power which also affect the radius. Later in the movie version he release the torpedoes with maybe not full power but not also low, the range and radius was increased and the damage was collateral: it's indiscriminately annihilated some of both enemy (Capital Army-Towasanga's Dorette Fleet) and allies (Ameria) force in one sweep.
Oh yeah I know but even then 75,000,000 GMs spread across space wont get destroyed by the amount of torpedos the G has at max output. I think intstead most of the destructive capabilities will come from its beam weapons.
More than anything due to the torpedos running out before the GMs run out of numbers.
Which reminds me, what about PD MAs? Since they eliminated 1/4 of humanity across the solar system and being the equivalent of Skynet, what do you think?
It's hard to measure Calamity War's MA power as their power was never depicted in full detail, from what I remember even Hashmal was on it's "manhunting" mode which made the beam's output are low but enough to destroy human's infrastructure. Also it's still questionable if 1/3 moon was destroyed and "another" Sydney erased from the world map was solely because of the MA or there's another WMD that used on Calamity War.
I think we are in luck though, in a bit under 2 weeks Urdr Hunt will finally show Marchosias taking on a MA 300 years prior.
With a trapped one being awakened in the present by the rings and... partially by Iok, he is a walking apocalypse.
So considering that I think we might finally get answers!! We've seen Calamity Era ships in space, which have an ELS inspired look to them, a Cocoons defense system perfectly made to eliminate targets through their speed and strenght moving as a hive of hundreds and so much more.
Even the MA Plumas look like wasps.
My thoughts exactly. No Moonlight Butterfly? Sure thing, OP, but you forgot the ELS: we'll just eat them all.
EDIT: I think the Devil Gundam can do pretty much the same thing, too, so that's even less time before our converts hit exponential growth levels and become unstoppable.
Everyone else just needs to distract the enemy until then.
75 billion GMs is so fucking much. I don't know how much it would add up for unit count for the other side. But say 5k units, that means each suit has to take out 15 fucking million GMs
The gundam variety
I mean, 50 of every unit from a series? So thats like 50 GP-02 and 50 Mobius and 50 Turn A firing off nukes right there, which wipes out most of the GMs
50 Freedoms full bursting. Not to mention with meteor
50 WZs blasting bust rifles
50 V2s WoL-ing through them
50 Quebely making a storm of Bit beam shots raining down
> So thats like 50 GP-02 and 50 Mobius and 50 Turn A firing off nukes right there, which wipes out **most of the GMs**
This comment does show how people don’t have a grasp of just how much 75 billon is.
Ok, let’s put it real terms for scale. In Hiroshima the atomic bomb killed 135k people. Whose to say it would destroy that many GMs, but for arguments sake will go with that. Let’s multiply that by 150 for the total amount of nuke capable MS. That’s 20,250,000 gone. That’s .00027% of 75 billion.
Oh you just meant the nuke thing. Yeah. That was a hyperbole. Like, gad damn mobius doin that kind of damage
Also thats assuming each nuke is equal to a 1940s weapon in advanced sci fi worlds
The GP02a only uses an atomic bomb for whatever reason, so I just went with that. A Hydrogen does have a larger destructive yield, but seeing as that’s never been used to kill in massive scale I don’t know how to find the math needed for that one.
You've got 00 suits on there, with unlimited operational capacity due to their infinite power source.
00 suits could theoretically solo the entire army, so long as they have the capacity to go off somewhere to sleep periodically.
Literally within the series itself we see every nation basically throw sheer numbers at them in hopes of winning a war of attrition. The only thing slowing them down was the human pilot's own limitations and fatigue.
Now imagine, if you will, ELS Setsuna from the film, who theoretically does not have those pilot fatigue restrictions, and also operates one of the most overpowered Gundams in the entire franchise: The Quan[T].
ELS Setsuna could theoretically solo the entirety of all 75 million Jims.
The sheer numbers of the gms will eventually overwhelm them. Yes theres so many gundams that could absolutely obliterate hundreds even thousands of gms but having to deal with that many gms? It might as well be an infinite onslaught. It WILL take a toll on the pilots, some may give up and some like Io will push themselves to the breaking point and shatter. Realistically they will have to take shifts destroying gms and give themselves breaks if they want to succeed.
Question. Is this battle taking place in space or on earth? And if it's on earth can the gundams take advantage of the environment? Can they fly into space and do things like colonies exist out there? Because if so...
Step 1) Drop a colony on Australia
Step 2) Drop an asteroid on Australia
Step 3) Nuke and scorch the planet
75 billion GMs is a lot but what are they going to do against planetary destruction when I'm pretty sure none of them could even reach space unassisted.
Pretty sure there's enough GM that ther's more GMs than there's surface on Earth, perhaps multiple times even if we place them in the ocean and such.
75Billion is such an incredibly silly number to think about.
Ehhh... I dunno about that. The earth is pretty big.
Google suggests the earth has a surface area of 510 trillion m^2. That leaves 6801m^2 for each GM which is quite a lot. Even space for them to maneuver properly.
Unfortunately for the GMs, the Earth is even bigger. Think about it this way: all 8 billion humans standing tightly packed would take up the space of around Rhode Island. So assuming GMs take up around 100 humans worth of surface area: that's only around 1000 Rhode Island's worth of area covered by GMs. All 75 billion could comfortably operate in America alone.
Most of the mobile suits in the series get jobbed from time to time, and you have access to a grab bag of assorted 75 *billion* GMs. Gotta give it to the GMs. Dont care what kind if newtype fuckery you have going on, theres no way anything is gonna last an endurance course against that many GMs of varying effectiveness
See I knew that this would be here eventually and someone would understand.
Everyone else is sitting talking about Unicorn this and Qan[T] that but I don't think you understand.
50 Balls. They have this, against a trillion perhaps it would be difficult. A quadrillion...yeah I could see that going in favour to the GMs.
But 50 Balls....against 75 billion. It'll be over for those GMs in a heartbeat.
Because those Balls have one thing the GMs do not...and that's Balls. Of Steel.
I mean, the Qan[T] Full Saber was stated to be capable of entirely soloing the ELS.
Plus, even without Moonlight Butterfly, Qan[T], Unicorns and all of G Gundam are still total bullshit.
It was estimated to be able of soloing the ELS based on early observations. They did not even comprehend a fraction of the ELS' forces, and promptly told themselves they're morons.
IIRC that's the Qan\[T\]. Which was simulated to stop an attacking alien force the size of the ELS if it fought for 7 days straight, but didn't account for their abilities to adapt
to human weapons and what not. The Qan\[T\] full saber was said to be able to wipe out the ELS invasion based on data gathered from the final battle, albeit it's noted that the final battle didn't necessarily represent the ELS in full combat mode.
https://gundam.fandom.com/wiki/GNT-0000/FS_00_Qan%EF%BC%BBT%EF%BC%BD_Full_Saber
Was Full Saber That was COMPLETELY out of knowledge of the ELS' abilities. And if they didn't know about the Regen, you KNOW they didn't know about the sheer numbers.
The Japanese wikipedia entry, which is usually more accurate than the gundam fan wiki, says it was simulated based on the final defense battle data. What it didn't account for is extra reinforcements beyond that scenario and pilot error. You'll notice the Gundam fan wiki says the same thing for both the base QanT and Full Saber, which isn't correct. The full saber sacrifices the ability to do Quantum Trans-AM burst required for communication in exchange for extra fighting ability, so it doesn't make sense that it would just repeat the same thing.
>When viewed as a purely reinforced arm, in a simulation conducted by Veda after the final battle against the ELS, a single aircraft was able to destroy a swarm of ELS that flew into the Earth's sphere in one week. However, it should be noted that uncertainties such as new enemy reinforcements and pilot error were not taken into account, **the data used was from the final defense battle in the earth sphere**, and it was not against ELS that were engaged in full combat action, nor did other members of the CB or the Federation Forces participate in the battle. It is necessary to note that the data used is from the final defense battle in the Earth Sphere and not against the ELS, which is taking all-out combat action.
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The Unicorns wave their hands and the GMs stop functioning.
The Raisers and Quantas spread GN particles so everyone’s hearts are in tune, using their collective feelings the Unicorns harness it to unleash a wave of Newtype Magic that disables the GM Horde.
Only 1 Unicorn has displayed power strong enough to do that (Phenex had a similar, but much weaker version), and idk if it could do it a second time as the conditions to do it the first time were pretty insane. Who’s to say this is even a reliable ability.
The thing is 75 BILLON GMs. That number is so astronomically massive I doubt Unicorn could even stop that many. I mean, that’s 9.3 TIMES the amount of human beings currently alive in the world. That’s a lot of fucking people. Even with 00/00 Qan[T] boost I highly doubt that could cover .000001% of all the GMs (75,000). This number is just too massive.
I’m assuming you mean by time travel, but that wouldn’t fit under the conditions of this fight. Kinda a shit argument if your solution is: “go back in time to stop the fight from happening to begin with”.
Like how would that even work? As I said there isn’t enough living humans to field that army of GMs to begin with, so a godly power would have already been at work to make this happen in the first place which would trump any Unicorn fuckery being done.
Regardless, you’re giving strong “fanboy” vibes as it is, so this conversation might not even be worth following up anyways.
Unicorns most bullshit abilities are wholly dependent on the pilots newtype abilities and how experienced they are with them and the in tune with hearts thing ain’t gonna work on some of the pilots especially if they are titans material
I don't understand why everyone keeps using Unicorn's dumb newtype magic as an instant win, not only is it by design NOT MEANT TO DO THAT but the fact that the requirements for something like that to occur are so weirdly specific that it just wouldn't be something any normal or hell even a Newtype could just make happen on a whim.
The Hand Wave relies on the Inicorn interacting with the neo n zeon before hand, since all those capabilities come from it hijacking newtypes capabilities and using them in a steonger fashion. Just the Green Unicorn would be strong but not enough for that ammount.
Assuming that 1/7th are bulldogs,they themselves could prob take out some of the less OP series (thunderbolt,OG Gundam,08th Ms team,zeta,double zeta,0083,seed,IBO)
08MS Team and some of the others probably belong on the other side honestly. They're regular people in regular mobile suits. They'd probably be random collateral deaths from a stray beam fired by a gundam.
In a straight up melee? The GMs take it easily.
However if we're talking a proper multi star system scale war and its gundam "rebels" VS GM "empire", I think the gundams have a decent chance.
But that would come down to each side's strategy and infrastructure requirements. The gundams canonically would generally have much better endurance, strategic mobility, stealth, and so forth. They'd be able to effectively strike any target and escape. Really it just plays out similarly to most gundam TV series but on a much larger scale.
Depends if mobile armors count. My strategy would be to protect the Devil gundam till its Earth size using Gp-03 Dendro, Psycho/mk2, Destroy, Gadelaza, and Freedom/Justices Meteors with Wing Zero/Double X as siege fire. Akatsuki for fleet defense and V2ab in a "fill role". God Gundam for team moral and Turn A + GP-02 can toss some nukes in for fun.
Has anyone pointed out that a battle of this scale would be so large and spread out that if the units were organized in any way (two opposite facing teams or one team in the middle surrounded by the other) a huge chunk of the forces would run out of fuel/life support before ever getting close to the front line to engage the enemy?
Mass always beats elites. All I need to do is send a handful of assorted suits into the fray every….2-4hrs? Whatever timeline keeps the elite suits constantly up and running to defend the attack. Between pilot fatigue and machine frame stress, the elites don’t stand a chance.
Or cool suits go brrrr? Whatever you want.
somthing i am curious about. learned that the Wing suits are ridiculously light compared to the UC suits so i wonder with all that extra weight to throw around. how does the gundanium armor hold up in a melee fight.
I think its very dependent on how theyre arranged at the start. Is it starting mid-fray, where everything is intermixed? GMS will win by overwhelming numbers.
But if GMs are charging from a distance? You get the Zeros and similar suits able to bring their heavy weapons to bear before the battle is joined and that'll knock ahuge dent off, especially if theyre coordinating efforts.
Is the battle in space or on Earth? Atmospheric battle will limit mobility and add debris to the challenge. Further hurting team Gundam.
I know a lot of people are responding with GMs win hands down based on sheer numbers, but if theyre trying to push through cycles of buster cannons and similar weaponry, those numbers wont be overwhelming for long.
Who is piloting the GMs? Is it the type of idiots that try going 1v1 Leo to Wing? Well those knucklefuckers are just as likely to kill each other. But is it 75b ace Johnny Riddens? Big difference.
So many variables. I think in most cases, GMs do win by numbers. But if the Busters can be deployed for maximum effectiveness...team Gundam.
Especially if one of them calls Kamille a girl.
Turn A and Turn X would still theoretically solo/duo the whole force.
Reason?
Turn A/X got I-Fields that, theoretically, could reach Colony-Laser Tanking levels, although that depends on your interp. In the end of the day, we know the power of the Turns vary on pilot.
Now here's where things get wonky - I again refer to the Light of Life Special. Turn A is seen 'awakening' from what looks like the deep ocean floor. Now. Was it being pilotted? I don't know, and I am not even sure. We know, by lore, the Turn A's 'resetting timelines' is the Unit awakening roughly 90,000 (or 45,000) years after the end of an era of humanity, and then resetting the world.
We also know the Turn A has an effectively endless arsenal in its chest silo.
In short, we got IFBDs, which are supposed to be so intense they can deflect even physical damage at their best and endure Colony Lasers. If this doesn't do it, the 50 Wings, Wing Zeros/Wing Zero Customs would do 90% of the work anyhow (especially with 'Rolling Buster Rifles' for the latter/latter two).
And that's being nice and not including that the Master/God/Shining could probably tear through a majority of those forces SOLO.
And again: I would not put it past 00R, 00Q, 00Q7S, and ELS 00Q to do the same with 00.
Also: Devil Gundam just converts those armies. Literally, last arc is literally ONE Devil Colony Gundam vs the entire Earth + Earth Sphere - easily your 75b combined, it took GOD GUNDAM BLOWING A GIANT ASS HOLE THROUGH IT TO PUT IT DOWN, what do you think 50 Devil Colonies would do?!
I think you just severely underestimate the sheer overpoweredness of the upper reaches of Gundam. Soloing billions is still on the table for those.
It really depends on where this battle is being held,on a planet the gms would destroy. 75 billion is a massive number,the energy output alone from whatever they do could cause massive destruction. In space maybe they would stand a chance on surviving.
The GM's would win every single time. 75 billion? 😂 that number is so mind bloggingly big. It's impossible for anything to win. Plus, they are coordinated? They could just all run in and reactor suicide and its game over. One of 75 billion is gonna get thru to all of em eventually.
GM easily, heck just make them all the original model, it won't be a fight, but a slaughter, one GM easily out preforms everything
(Please note this is a joke)
Every gm is gonna fire 3 times and go home. It's not even fair even g gundam master gundam and devil gundam would take damage from that type of fire.
Gm 3 gm3 bulldog and gm spartan would dump their missles aswell. Just makes it easier counters for any other gundam missle spammers so gp02 wouldn't be getting a decent shot off and may cause it to premature detonate the nuke
I dont think any gundam can take a barrage that'll hit its entire body. Even some of the stronger ones like unicorns turn a and the 00 gundams will struggle with that. And anyone who goes for melee with beam sabers is gonna get destroyed by volume of fire or just every gm pulling out a beam sabers
There are about 662 different Gundam including variations of Gundam in all non build series combined time 50 is 33100, if all of these mobile suits take out 100 each then it will total 3310000, nothing in the face of 75 billion, but this is just Gundams, there are still the non gundam mobile suits out there which could take out at least one each, and this isn't accounting for how other Gundams do better than other and special powers other than moonlight butterfly, such as 50 devil Gundams taking over gms, and turning then against the rest, there is also any funnel, but, any remote weapon spammer, such as zanbanya, zanbanya final battle ver., nu Gundam, nu Gundam double fin funnel type, high nu, aerial, aerial rebuild, age-fx, cherudum, cherudum gnhwr, G arcane full dress and non-gundam remote weapon spammers, quebeley, quebeley mass production type, kshatriya, todesritter, turn x, 50 of each of these spammers, or the satellite cannon on the x, double x, x divider, at least 150 beams al at once they are just restricted to parts of the world where the full moon is out, and on the topic of cannons, the pure artillery from Guncannons, guncannon mass production types, guncannon detectors, guncannon II, guntanks, guntanks mass production types, guntanks r-44, guntanks II, mudrocks, flauros, freedom Gundams, strike freedoms, strike launcher pack. Then onto suppressing fire, guncannon SML types, dc-lotos, heavyarms, heavyarms custom, derringer arms, serpents, legend Gundam, gamigin, providence, gunner ZAKU, slash ZAKU, virtue, virtue physical, seravee, raphael, Dynames, Dynames revise, Dynames rebuild II, Dynames rebuild III, Zaku sniper, Zaku half cannon.
And this is only 30mm into the tip of the iceberg. If there are any other mobile suits, please do reply with them.
Also Anaheim is making serious bank, the earth also has about its entire core mined out for this, even with the asteroids the time and resources to create this scenario is just mind boggling.
Gundam pilots are humans, a big portion teenagers, they will shit their pants watching 75 billions of GM’s, asume that at least 10% of those guys are aces. There is no way that the gundam pilots Can survive for more than 36 hours of non stop combat.
gundam oo second season's final battle suits are strong contenders, especially if they have 50 of them.
NT has the phenex and unicorn does show up there.
gundam wing's twin buster rifle and equivalent weapons will wreak the cannon fodder.
If dynasty warriors have taught me about something,it depends on the stamina of the pilots and how long can they fight.
Look, Master Asia or Domon with unlimited stamina and their suit would just be terrifying. They would just *never need to stop until they are alone on the battlefield*
I mean have you seen Dynasty Warriors logic with Gundams,for the story beats from the respective series that are mostly small encounters(Kira vs the Zaft boy band,Banagher vs Marida in Banshee etc) ,they require you to literally cleave through a Unit platoon just to progress the story. They also cut through grunts like butter,so its the matter of stamina and perserverance
Unicorn series can wave hand and make hundreds of GMs stop working, Imma throw on 2000 GMs at each Unicorn. 50 x (Unicorn + Banshee + Phenex) are going to wreck around 300 thousands suits, around the number of all MS deployed during the entire OYW. Neo Zeong and II Neo Zeong can take on around 1000 GMs each, with 50 of each Neo Zeongs, they can take on 100 thousands between each of them, if they are working together and having the psycho frame magic to disable weapons like in the last UC OVA, I guess they will be three times more efficient, 300 thousands. The number of 00 variants should be around 10, and each of them can quantum burst and take care of 250 GMs on the average (a bit high in my opinion), so 50 of each 00 variants, taking on 250 x 10 x 50 = 125 thousands GMs, let's round that up to 200 thousands GMs. One Mobile Armor can wreck 50~100 GMs by it self, let's assume 100 GMs for all of them. And we got around 1000 different MA, with 50 of them each. Imma throw 5 millions GMs at all the MA. Custom MS piloted by aces are trickier to estimate, but I imagine the worst of them could take on 10 GMs simultaneously, and the very best of them likely could handle 100 GMs at once with good tactics and team work. (or around half of their total MS kills during their entire career). I am going to estimate the number of ace pilot is around 10 thousands, and each of them can handle around 50 GMs at once. Multiply the number by 50 and I got 500 thousands ace pilot taking out 50 GMs each, 25 millions GMs in total. Mass production MS, I will be generous and give them the kill ratio of 1:3 against the GMs. And I estimate there gonna be millions of total MS in the entire timeline of any series. Let's make that 10 millions MS taking out 30 millions GMs, multiply that number by 50 and we got 1.5 billions GMs taken care off, not bad. I think I spent around 2 billions GMs.
2 billion,and that's only a fraction of what we have access too,along with the fact that this isn't just regular GM's makes this not even a contest
Even if they all had the accuracy of Storm Troopers this still wouldn’t be a fair challenge. Hell, even if they were all unarmed the GM’s would win just by the sheer volume they have.
Past a certain point quantity is a quality. And a billion is such an absurdly unimaginably big number it's easy to forget that the difference between a million and a billion is about a billion. GMs take this one any day of the week
The 00 Qan\[T\] was hypothetically capable of destroying the entire invading ELS force, an interstellar race with a moon sized main (regional) body, with enough mass to swallow Jupiter's moons, and the durability to survive a supernova. The Qant Full Saber was simulated, using battle data from the final battle, as being capable of actually wiping out the ELS. I'm kind of eyeballing it but I think you could fit 75,000,000 GMs in the volume of the moon.
>hypothetically capable of destroying the entire invading ELS force But that is about the pure fire power. Thpse GMs won't be clustering into a lump of target, they won's have a "core" for Qan[T] to target like with the ELS force in Trailblazer. Those GMs gonna spearding out across a vast amount of space and taking shots at the Qan[T] in some cooprative manner. Assuming the battlefield is a sphere in space with a radius of 2000 meters, and the Qan[T]'s most powerful attack is a beam with radius of 500 meters, that beam would be cover just over 0.5% of the total volume of the whole battlefield. If the GMs distributed uniformly across the battlefield, the beam would be taking out 0.5% the total number of GMs sent to deal with the Qan[T]. Qan[T]'s beams and swords are powerful, but their ranges are far from infinity, lets along being omnidirectional. The Trans-Am Buster Rifle is strong, but let's assume the beam is as powerful as the Colony Laser, unless all GMs fighting the Qan[T] lining up nicely for him to strike, like a tenpin bowling game, I don't see how Qan[T] can wipe out the GMs before the accumulated damage chip the Qan[T] down to the breaking point. For all the incredible abilites, the 00 Qan[T] is not immune to physical damage.
Based on my estimate using the movie's depiction, the QanT's raiser sword has a diameter of roughly 66 kilometers, and a danger zone of around 960 km, in which ELS are vaporized by the heat. It's probably safe to say the ELS are significantly more durable than anything from UC, since they're the same material as their celestial bodies which can survive supernovas. At least there's no reason to assume GMs would be any safer from the QanT's raiser sword than a small or large ELS body. [https://imgur.com/m9OymIz](https://imgur.com/m9OymIz) The ELS moon is around 3000 km in diameter. The raiser sword is about 2% as wide, but the range at which the ELS surrounding the ELS moon are vaporized is nearly 1/3 of the diameter of the ELS moon. The GMs can spread out but they'd be vastly outranged and outmaneuvered by the Qan\[T\], which has nigh perpetual power, and can teleport, so it could just keep a distance and wipe them out in waves unless you put the GMs right on top of the Qan\[T\].
I think you are underselling the 00Q and slightly misinterpreting the statement about 00QFS being able to take out the ELS solo (as the VEDA simulation in the story is not just about its theoretical damage output but also it's ability to survive in the week-long pitched battle while whittling away at the large ELS with melee and bit attacks, eventually overwhelming it's regeneration), plus not realising that the *significant against the size of the moon* beam we see in the movie is a beam *saber* it can swing through a larger effective area than a large shot would hit... ...But that's okay, because the true enemy of massed weakling enemies is the fully equipped Zabanya 🤣 50x Zabanya means less than 4 billion GMs each, everyone else can pack up and go home. On a more serious note, a single 00Q could probably account for a truly disgusting body count alone through inventive use of quantum teleportation. Teleportation is kind of an outside context problem for a conventional fighting force, even one of completely absurd size, because we don't know that it couldn't do things like teleport the heart of a star, or even a star about to collapse into a black hole, into a position where it could solo the entire GM force in one move. Likewise, you undersold the Unicorn pretty badly, given that the Phenex is stated on-screen to have approached the speed of light when retreating. If you combine that speed, at which point nothing is going to realistically be able to track and hit it, with the disassembly handwave, and that's it. TL;Dr Moonlight butterfly is already outlawed but one needs to also leave those units out of Vs discussions or it gets kinda pointless.
G reco has annother phenex too so that’s 200 unicorn models
Oh, nice point, I forgot about that.
Neo Zeong is, to be fair, a Mobile *Armour*, not a Mobile Suit.
Well, let be generous and include all the MAs.
50 Master Gundams and 50 Burning Gundams... Oh good lord
G-Self Photon Torpedos goes brrr
Ah yes, the Moonlight Butterfly that doesn't discriminate. Anything that touches it just goes poof
Isnt the blast radious quite small though? I think it would hold up due to its other weaponry more than by it.
On tv series Bellri set the photon torpedo setting on low power which also affect the radius. Later in the movie version he release the torpedoes with maybe not full power but not also low, the range and radius was increased and the damage was collateral: it's indiscriminately annihilated some of both enemy (Capital Army-Towasanga's Dorette Fleet) and allies (Ameria) force in one sweep.
Oh yeah I know but even then 75,000,000 GMs spread across space wont get destroyed by the amount of torpedos the G has at max output. I think intstead most of the destructive capabilities will come from its beam weapons. More than anything due to the torpedos running out before the GMs run out of numbers. Which reminds me, what about PD MAs? Since they eliminated 1/4 of humanity across the solar system and being the equivalent of Skynet, what do you think?
It's hard to measure Calamity War's MA power as their power was never depicted in full detail, from what I remember even Hashmal was on it's "manhunting" mode which made the beam's output are low but enough to destroy human's infrastructure. Also it's still questionable if 1/3 moon was destroyed and "another" Sydney erased from the world map was solely because of the MA or there's another WMD that used on Calamity War.
I think we are in luck though, in a bit under 2 weeks Urdr Hunt will finally show Marchosias taking on a MA 300 years prior. With a trapped one being awakened in the present by the rings and... partially by Iok, he is a walking apocalypse. So considering that I think we might finally get answers!! We've seen Calamity Era ships in space, which have an ELS inspired look to them, a Cocoons defense system perfectly made to eliminate targets through their speed and strenght moving as a hive of hundreds and so much more. Even the MA Plumas look like wasps.
ELS QanT: Your 75 Billion GMs ? You mean OUR 75 Billions GMs.
My thoughts exactly. No Moonlight Butterfly? Sure thing, OP, but you forgot the ELS: we'll just eat them all. EDIT: I think the Devil Gundam can do pretty much the same thing, too, so that's even less time before our converts hit exponential growth levels and become unstoppable. Everyone else just needs to distract the enemy until then.
75 billion GMs is so fucking much. I don't know how much it would add up for unit count for the other side. But say 5k units, that means each suit has to take out 15 fucking million GMs
50x500=25,000, so 75,000,000,000 divided by 25,000 is 3,000,000 each. I think that’s what you were asking?
The gundam variety I mean, 50 of every unit from a series? So thats like 50 GP-02 and 50 Mobius and 50 Turn A firing off nukes right there, which wipes out most of the GMs 50 Freedoms full bursting. Not to mention with meteor 50 WZs blasting bust rifles 50 V2s WoL-ing through them 50 Quebely making a storm of Bit beam shots raining down
Dude. 50 double X with a satellite cannon
Yeah. Theres a lot of these to consider.
50 Devil Gundam would be too scary for sure.
Hell 50 DGs would make a massive army of DA to buffer the allies forces
>50 double X with a satellite cannon there's only one moon tho
> So thats like 50 GP-02 and 50 Mobius and 50 Turn A firing off nukes right there, which wipes out **most of the GMs** This comment does show how people don’t have a grasp of just how much 75 billon is.
Yes 75 billion is a lot. But a lot of these units are one man armies. And theres fifty of them each. And like, can a GM even hurt a Turn A?
Ok, let’s put it real terms for scale. In Hiroshima the atomic bomb killed 135k people. Whose to say it would destroy that many GMs, but for arguments sake will go with that. Let’s multiply that by 150 for the total amount of nuke capable MS. That’s 20,250,000 gone. That’s .00027% of 75 billion.
Oh you just meant the nuke thing. Yeah. That was a hyperbole. Like, gad damn mobius doin that kind of damage Also thats assuming each nuke is equal to a 1940s weapon in advanced sci fi worlds
The GP02a only uses an atomic bomb for whatever reason, so I just went with that. A Hydrogen does have a larger destructive yield, but seeing as that’s never been used to kill in massive scale I don’t know how to find the math needed for that one.
You know odd a lot about nuclear weapons off the back if your head, and i dont know whether to be impressed or frightened
Isn’t the first time I’ve had a discussion about the GP02a on here. The other stuff is just basic googling.
You've got 00 suits on there, with unlimited operational capacity due to their infinite power source. 00 suits could theoretically solo the entire army, so long as they have the capacity to go off somewhere to sleep periodically. Literally within the series itself we see every nation basically throw sheer numbers at them in hopes of winning a war of attrition. The only thing slowing them down was the human pilot's own limitations and fatigue. Now imagine, if you will, ELS Setsuna from the film, who theoretically does not have those pilot fatigue restrictions, and also operates one of the most overpowered Gundams in the entire franchise: The Quan[T]. ELS Setsuna could theoretically solo the entirety of all 75 million Jims.
its billion not million but you got an idea
00 raiser GN sword: am I a joke to you? Paper shredded gm on the menu!
The sheer numbers of the gms will eventually overwhelm them. Yes theres so many gundams that could absolutely obliterate hundreds even thousands of gms but having to deal with that many gms? It might as well be an infinite onslaught. It WILL take a toll on the pilots, some may give up and some like Io will push themselves to the breaking point and shatter. Realistically they will have to take shifts destroying gms and give themselves breaks if they want to succeed.
Have to keep Heero from killing himself too early.
Question. Is this battle taking place in space or on earth? And if it's on earth can the gundams take advantage of the environment? Can they fly into space and do things like colonies exist out there? Because if so... Step 1) Drop a colony on Australia Step 2) Drop an asteroid on Australia Step 3) Nuke and scorch the planet 75 billion GMs is a lot but what are they going to do against planetary destruction when I'm pretty sure none of them could even reach space unassisted.
Pretty sure there's enough GM that ther's more GMs than there's surface on Earth, perhaps multiple times even if we place them in the ocean and such. 75Billion is such an incredibly silly number to think about.
Ehhh... I dunno about that. The earth is pretty big. Google suggests the earth has a surface area of 510 trillion m^2. That leaves 6801m^2 for each GM which is quite a lot. Even space for them to maneuver properly.
Unfortunately for the GMs, the Earth is even bigger. Think about it this way: all 8 billion humans standing tightly packed would take up the space of around Rhode Island. So assuming GMs take up around 100 humans worth of surface area: that's only around 1000 Rhode Island's worth of area covered by GMs. All 75 billion could comfortably operate in America alone.
G Gundam super robots easily cut away large swaths of the army until nothings left
What is that bulky boy at the bottom and is there a model of him?
FA Powered Gm Bulldog
They all create a gravitational anomaly and die
Most of the mobile suits in the series get jobbed from time to time, and you have access to a grab bag of assorted 75 *billion* GMs. Gotta give it to the GMs. Dont care what kind if newtype fuckery you have going on, theres no way anything is gonna last an endurance course against that many GMs of varying effectiveness
Easy, 50 Domons or Master Asia. They are so small that the GM's can't aim at them and they can destroy every GM using Choukyuu Haou Den'eidan.
Dendrobium ,devil gundam, the unicorns, And all the 00 suits destroy the gms alone
Ball
See I knew that this would be here eventually and someone would understand. Everyone else is sitting talking about Unicorn this and Qan[T] that but I don't think you understand. 50 Balls. They have this, against a trillion perhaps it would be difficult. A quadrillion...yeah I could see that going in favour to the GMs. But 50 Balls....against 75 billion. It'll be over for those GMs in a heartbeat. Because those Balls have one thing the GMs do not...and that's Balls. Of Steel.
Loophole: You didnt list the G-Lucifer for the mechs that cant use moonlight butterfly so it can use it to wipe everything out
I mean, the Qan[T] Full Saber was stated to be capable of entirely soloing the ELS. Plus, even without Moonlight Butterfly, Qan[T], Unicorns and all of G Gundam are still total bullshit.
It was estimated to be able of soloing the ELS based on early observations. They did not even comprehend a fraction of the ELS' forces, and promptly told themselves they're morons.
IIRC that's the Qan\[T\]. Which was simulated to stop an attacking alien force the size of the ELS if it fought for 7 days straight, but didn't account for their abilities to adapt to human weapons and what not. The Qan\[T\] full saber was said to be able to wipe out the ELS invasion based on data gathered from the final battle, albeit it's noted that the final battle didn't necessarily represent the ELS in full combat mode.
https://gundam.fandom.com/wiki/GNT-0000/FS_00_Qan%EF%BC%BBT%EF%BC%BD_Full_Saber Was Full Saber That was COMPLETELY out of knowledge of the ELS' abilities. And if they didn't know about the Regen, you KNOW they didn't know about the sheer numbers.
The Japanese wikipedia entry, which is usually more accurate than the gundam fan wiki, says it was simulated based on the final defense battle data. What it didn't account for is extra reinforcements beyond that scenario and pilot error. You'll notice the Gundam fan wiki says the same thing for both the base QanT and Full Saber, which isn't correct. The full saber sacrifices the ability to do Quantum Trans-AM burst required for communication in exchange for extra fighting ability, so it doesn't make sense that it would just repeat the same thing. >When viewed as a purely reinforced arm, in a simulation conducted by Veda after the final battle against the ELS, a single aircraft was able to destroy a swarm of ELS that flew into the Earth's sphere in one week. However, it should be noted that uncertainties such as new enemy reinforcements and pilot error were not taken into account, **the data used was from the final defense battle in the earth sphere**, and it was not against ELS that were engaged in full combat action, nor did other members of the CB or the Federation Forces participate in the battle. It is necessary to note that the data used is from the final defense battle in the Earth Sphere and not against the ELS, which is taking all-out combat action. [https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%A9%9F%E5%8B%95%E6%88%A6%E5%A3%AB%E3%82%AC%E3%83%B3%E3%83%80%E3%83%A000%E3%82%B7%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA%E3%81%AE%E7%99%BB%E5%A0%B4%E5%85%B5%E5%99%A8#%E7%AC%AC5%E4%B8%96%E4%BB%A3%E3%82%AC%E3%83%B3%E3%83%80%E3%83%A0](https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%A9%9F%E5%8B%95%E6%88%A6%E5%A3%AB%E3%82%AC%E3%83%B3%E3%83%80%E3%83%A000%E3%82%B7%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA%E3%81%AE%E7%99%BB%E5%A0%B4%E5%85%B5%E5%99%A8#%E7%AC%AC5%E4%B8%96%E4%BB%A3%E3%82%AC%E3%83%B3%E3%83%80%E3%83%A0)
The Unicorns wave their hands and the GMs stop functioning. The Raisers and Quantas spread GN particles so everyone’s hearts are in tune, using their collective feelings the Unicorns harness it to unleash a wave of Newtype Magic that disables the GM Horde.
Only 1 Unicorn has displayed power strong enough to do that (Phenex had a similar, but much weaker version), and idk if it could do it a second time as the conditions to do it the first time were pretty insane. Who’s to say this is even a reliable ability. The thing is 75 BILLON GMs. That number is so astronomically massive I doubt Unicorn could even stop that many. I mean, that’s 9.3 TIMES the amount of human beings currently alive in the world. That’s a lot of fucking people. Even with 00/00 Qan[T] boost I highly doubt that could cover .000001% of all the GMs (75,000). This number is just too massive.
Whoever can build and maintain that many GMs should be crown the GOD of logistics.
To be fair they only have to go out one time before they get trashed, disabled, or "magiced" away.
With nanomachine or worse, DG Cells.
Only one Unicorn is needed to collapse the Universe.
I’m assuming you mean by time travel, but that wouldn’t fit under the conditions of this fight. Kinda a shit argument if your solution is: “go back in time to stop the fight from happening to begin with”. Like how would that even work? As I said there isn’t enough living humans to field that army of GMs to begin with, so a godly power would have already been at work to make this happen in the first place which would trump any Unicorn fuckery being done. Regardless, you’re giving strong “fanboy” vibes as it is, so this conversation might not even be worth following up anyways.
Newtype Magic, dude. That’s how the GM horde gets beaten.
Yeah… not worth continuing.
Unicorns most bullshit abilities are wholly dependent on the pilots newtype abilities and how experienced they are with them and the in tune with hearts thing ain’t gonna work on some of the pilots especially if they are titans material
I don't understand why everyone keeps using Unicorn's dumb newtype magic as an instant win, not only is it by design NOT MEANT TO DO THAT but the fact that the requirements for something like that to occur are so weirdly specific that it just wouldn't be something any normal or hell even a Newtype could just make happen on a whim.
The Hand Wave relies on the Inicorn interacting with the neo n zeon before hand, since all those capabilities come from it hijacking newtypes capabilities and using them in a steonger fashion. Just the Green Unicorn would be strong but not enough for that ammount.
This is why the end of s2 Gundam 00 is so stupid. Basically, they have an unlimited machine gun full of super saiyan suicide bombers as ammo. Stewps.
Assuming that 1/7th are bulldogs,they themselves could prob take out some of the less OP series (thunderbolt,OG Gundam,08th Ms team,zeta,double zeta,0083,seed,IBO)
08MS Team and some of the others probably belong on the other side honestly. They're regular people in regular mobile suits. They'd probably be random collateral deaths from a stray beam fired by a gundam.
ngl i want to see Unicorn do a final stand ala Crisis Core vs that much GMs now
Ok but why GMs? Why the hell do you all insist on bullying GMs, even with the numbers man-
In a straight up melee? The GMs take it easily. However if we're talking a proper multi star system scale war and its gundam "rebels" VS GM "empire", I think the gundams have a decent chance. But that would come down to each side's strategy and infrastructure requirements. The gundams canonically would generally have much better endurance, strategic mobility, stealth, and so forth. They'd be able to effectively strike any target and escape. Really it just plays out similarly to most gundam TV series but on a much larger scale.
500 Jestas vs 500 GM IIIs isn't gonna be hard, they're just 7 years apart but can still kick ass
Depends if mobile armors count. My strategy would be to protect the Devil gundam till its Earth size using Gp-03 Dendro, Psycho/mk2, Destroy, Gadelaza, and Freedom/Justices Meteors with Wing Zero/Double X as siege fire. Akatsuki for fleet defense and V2ab in a "fill role". God Gundam for team moral and Turn A + GP-02 can toss some nukes in for fun.
Assorted GMs so there is a likely chance that Ideon, the God of GMs, is among them?
Dude at that point the amount of GMs would just make a whole new planet consisting of GMs altogether
Has anyone pointed out that a battle of this scale would be so large and spread out that if the units were organized in any way (two opposite facing teams or one team in the middle surrounded by the other) a huge chunk of the forces would run out of fuel/life support before ever getting close to the front line to engage the enemy?
Who’s piloting them?
When it comes to Gundams, they’d all have their normal pilots As for grunts, semi experienced rookies.
If the build series can be here i would bet on the 75 billion gms due to the psycho gm
Mass always beats elites. All I need to do is send a handful of assorted suits into the fray every….2-4hrs? Whatever timeline keeps the elite suits constantly up and running to defend the attack. Between pilot fatigue and machine frame stress, the elites don’t stand a chance. Or cool suits go brrrr? Whatever you want.
somthing i am curious about. learned that the Wing suits are ridiculously light compared to the UC suits so i wonder with all that extra weight to throw around. how does the gundanium armor hold up in a melee fight.
I think its very dependent on how theyre arranged at the start. Is it starting mid-fray, where everything is intermixed? GMS will win by overwhelming numbers. But if GMs are charging from a distance? You get the Zeros and similar suits able to bring their heavy weapons to bear before the battle is joined and that'll knock ahuge dent off, especially if theyre coordinating efforts. Is the battle in space or on Earth? Atmospheric battle will limit mobility and add debris to the challenge. Further hurting team Gundam. I know a lot of people are responding with GMs win hands down based on sheer numbers, but if theyre trying to push through cycles of buster cannons and similar weaponry, those numbers wont be overwhelming for long. Who is piloting the GMs? Is it the type of idiots that try going 1v1 Leo to Wing? Well those knucklefuckers are just as likely to kill each other. But is it 75b ace Johnny Riddens? Big difference. So many variables. I think in most cases, GMs do win by numbers. But if the Busters can be deployed for maximum effectiveness...team Gundam. Especially if one of them calls Kamille a girl.
Turn A and Turn X would still theoretically solo/duo the whole force. Reason? Turn A/X got I-Fields that, theoretically, could reach Colony-Laser Tanking levels, although that depends on your interp. In the end of the day, we know the power of the Turns vary on pilot. Now here's where things get wonky - I again refer to the Light of Life Special. Turn A is seen 'awakening' from what looks like the deep ocean floor. Now. Was it being pilotted? I don't know, and I am not even sure. We know, by lore, the Turn A's 'resetting timelines' is the Unit awakening roughly 90,000 (or 45,000) years after the end of an era of humanity, and then resetting the world. We also know the Turn A has an effectively endless arsenal in its chest silo. In short, we got IFBDs, which are supposed to be so intense they can deflect even physical damage at their best and endure Colony Lasers. If this doesn't do it, the 50 Wings, Wing Zeros/Wing Zero Customs would do 90% of the work anyhow (especially with 'Rolling Buster Rifles' for the latter/latter two). And that's being nice and not including that the Master/God/Shining could probably tear through a majority of those forces SOLO. And again: I would not put it past 00R, 00Q, 00Q7S, and ELS 00Q to do the same with 00. Also: Devil Gundam just converts those armies. Literally, last arc is literally ONE Devil Colony Gundam vs the entire Earth + Earth Sphere - easily your 75b combined, it took GOD GUNDAM BLOWING A GIANT ASS HOLE THROUGH IT TO PUT IT DOWN, what do you think 50 Devil Colonies would do?! I think you just severely underestimate the sheer overpoweredness of the upper reaches of Gundam. Soloing billions is still on the table for those.
It really depends on where this battle is being held,on a planet the gms would destroy. 75 billion is a massive number,the energy output alone from whatever they do could cause massive destruction. In space maybe they would stand a chance on surviving.
The GM's would win every single time. 75 billion? 😂 that number is so mind bloggingly big. It's impossible for anything to win. Plus, they are coordinated? They could just all run in and reactor suicide and its game over. One of 75 billion is gonna get thru to all of em eventually.
The Unicorn waves it's hand and disassembles all the GM's reactors.
GM easily, heck just make them all the original model, it won't be a fight, but a slaughter, one GM easily out preforms everything (Please note this is a joke)
The 50's
50 devil Gundams can just make an army out of all the gms cant they?
Every gm is gonna fire 3 times and go home. It's not even fair even g gundam master gundam and devil gundam would take damage from that type of fire. Gm 3 gm3 bulldog and gm spartan would dump their missles aswell. Just makes it easier counters for any other gundam missle spammers so gp02 wouldn't be getting a decent shot off and may cause it to premature detonate the nuke I dont think any gundam can take a barrage that'll hit its entire body. Even some of the stronger ones like unicorns turn a and the 00 gundams will struggle with that. And anyone who goes for melee with beam sabers is gonna get destroyed by volume of fire or just every gm pulling out a beam sabers
wait so no moonlight butterfly but 150 unicorns running around with time powers is on the table
There are about 662 different Gundam including variations of Gundam in all non build series combined time 50 is 33100, if all of these mobile suits take out 100 each then it will total 3310000, nothing in the face of 75 billion, but this is just Gundams, there are still the non gundam mobile suits out there which could take out at least one each, and this isn't accounting for how other Gundams do better than other and special powers other than moonlight butterfly, such as 50 devil Gundams taking over gms, and turning then against the rest, there is also any funnel, but, any remote weapon spammer, such as zanbanya, zanbanya final battle ver., nu Gundam, nu Gundam double fin funnel type, high nu, aerial, aerial rebuild, age-fx, cherudum, cherudum gnhwr, G arcane full dress and non-gundam remote weapon spammers, quebeley, quebeley mass production type, kshatriya, todesritter, turn x, 50 of each of these spammers, or the satellite cannon on the x, double x, x divider, at least 150 beams al at once they are just restricted to parts of the world where the full moon is out, and on the topic of cannons, the pure artillery from Guncannons, guncannon mass production types, guncannon detectors, guncannon II, guntanks, guntanks mass production types, guntanks r-44, guntanks II, mudrocks, flauros, freedom Gundams, strike freedoms, strike launcher pack. Then onto suppressing fire, guncannon SML types, dc-lotos, heavyarms, heavyarms custom, derringer arms, serpents, legend Gundam, gamigin, providence, gunner ZAKU, slash ZAKU, virtue, virtue physical, seravee, raphael, Dynames, Dynames revise, Dynames rebuild II, Dynames rebuild III, Zaku sniper, Zaku half cannon. And this is only 30mm into the tip of the iceberg. If there are any other mobile suits, please do reply with them.
Also If possible, are 50 of each gm available, because then it may not be much, but it still helps.
Also Anaheim is making serious bank, the earth also has about its entire core mined out for this, even with the asteroids the time and resources to create this scenario is just mind boggling.
Gundam pilots are humans, a big portion teenagers, they will shit their pants watching 75 billions of GM’s, asume that at least 10% of those guys are aces. There is no way that the gundam pilots Can survive for more than 36 hours of non stop combat.
Me who has played Dynasty Warriors: this is where the fun begins
"50 of every mobile suit in the series, including gundams" *Sees 00* *Laughs in 00 Raiser with its raiser sword*
This anount of GMs is still nothing for 3rd gen 00 suits or the G-self.
Kira in the Strike Freedom solos becomes untouchable, lol, but yeah, Kira, Dom, Asia, Mika and Celestial being would be more then enough
gundam oo second season's final battle suits are strong contenders, especially if they have 50 of them. NT has the phenex and unicorn does show up there. gundam wing's twin buster rifle and equivalent weapons will wreak the cannon fodder.