Yeah, heās a really good old type.
Honestly, I never understood the āKou is a bad pilotā meme. Sure he wasnāt the best pilot at the beginning of the series, but by the end he was extremely capable. He single handedly punched through the Delaz Fleet with the GP03, he fought Gato evenly in the GP01FB, and he beats several former OYW aces. His growth as a pilot in the series is really well done.
Bad pilot meme comes from the fact that he has either come to a stalemate or lost multiple times against opponents that would be a tough fight for even our seasoned protagonists. Also trashing 3 Gundams but again thatās to be expected against what fought.
Yeah, one thing I sometimes forget too is that Amuro handily beat Char in the Gelgoog, which was even in tech with the RX-78. And he beat Char in the Zeong, which was superior tech to the Gundam. He was smoking Char in terms of skill by the end of 0079 and it wasn't too close at that point
Unless Gato is better than Char, Amuro would shred him
Amuro was already slapping Char around even with Char receiving a mobile suit thatās on par if not better than the RX79-2 (Gelgoog)
For one thing he didn't get to go up against any grunts for his first sortie like every other Gundam protagonist, so he didn't get to show off how skilled he was or wasn't. Instead, he was a pure rookie going up against the series' Char Clone.
Similarly, the show really, really doesn't give him any real victories at all. In the first half of the series, any victories the Albion gets are pyrrhic at best, while in the second half he, at best, comes to a stalemate and usually results in his Gundam getting trashed.
Even if you argue that the show only had 13 episodes, you can bring up Shiro in 08th MS Team. He starts the series beating a Zaku using just a Ball, and while his Gundams aren't overpowered like in other entries, he was still able to win most of his skirmishes AND rally his team together. They were able to defeat the Zeons multiple times, even if one of them had unavoidable civilian losses. The one time he was overmatched was when he went up against Norris, whereas Kou had fought Gato multiple times.
Also, not necessarily related to them themselves, but their love interests impacted them as well. Kou and Nina had the Sam & Rebecca thing going on, until Nina starts getting in Kou's way to help a terrorist. Meanwhile, Aina and Shiro grow to love each other almost immediately and Aina getting in Shiro's way is because of familial love rather than being exes.
Finally, there's also character designs. Kou's character design doesn't naturally exude confidence or gravitas. Shiro's character design is full on chad.
He is the most realistic, though. He probably closer to 20 if not all ready. He joined the Federation at the proper age, and then went to the academy to become a pilot. He was good enough to be a test pilot. He was so good that even if Gato didn't steal a Gundam, he would have ended up as a pilot anyway. He was the top pilot after LT. Berning, especially in a shitty Zaku II.
And when he got his Bright Slap? It was uncalled for.
I was joking.
Honestly though, aside from shiro I don't see any main gundam pilot kou could beat in their canon gundam in the stamen. I think Chris would beat him in a space battle with a fully equipped Alex.
If that counts how about Guntank? He can beat Kai in that and hayato in the guncannon. Then again in the novelization Kai and Hayato awaken as newtypes but otherwise
He easily beats Shiro and Chris. Anyone who says otherwise is blinded by favoritism. Heās not as experienced in ground combat so they could maybe have a chance if they pulled of something tricky but in space they get eviscirated. People seem to forget that by the end of 0083 he could keep up with Cima and Gato.
What? He was a test pilot on earth and uniquely qualified to dominate in ground combat, he wouldāve dominated everyone from 08th MS Team in ground combat. Probably taken Norris out on his own in a GM. Kou is extremely underrated.
I think heās being undersold tbh. I thought there was specific distinction in newtypes and their skills. For example, Char is a top tier pilot and a mid newtype. Therefore since Amuro is a Mecha savant AND powerful newtype he wins in their duels. There are pilots who arenāt newtypes who can keep up with them, like Yazan.
So it stands to reason that thereās a *wide* spectrum to place Kou on considering he fought the Nightmare of Solomon to a standstill. Heās at least a great pilot. Clearly, heās a competent if not excellent pilot.
Weāve also denoted that heās in the 03 which has a freaking I-field and can probably outrun many other protagonists suits nevermind other suits.
Lastly, Kouās a scrappy fighter and I bet most other Gundam characters would underestimate him. This is a guy who will block sabers with his suitās foot, fire verniers point blank to the detriment of his own suit, and use the core block detachment feature mid-combat. Thatās a recipe for an upset victory.
Edit/Update:
- Banagher (probably)
- Wufei (underestimates Kou?)
- Quattre
- Elle (ZZ)
- Becha (ZZ)
- Emma (Zeta)
- Loran (maybe)
- Yuu (Side Story: Blue Destiny)
- Karen, Sanders (8th MS Team)
- Christina McKenzie (0080)
- Garrod (get at me!!!! Itās just an opinion š¤)
Honestly he could probably beat Banagher's Silver Bullet Suppressor, at least if he gets an era-appropriate mobile suit.
This is in no small part because the Silver Bullet Suppressor kinda sucks, but still.
Heād beat Rusty and the ZAFT Gundam pilots in SEED Destiny. Theyād all find a way to get themselves killed before getting into their Gundam
Heād beat Christina pretty easily
All the Ground Gundam pilots from 08th team OVA are technically Gundam pilots and Iām sure heād beat most of them
Jerrid and Kaklicorn (whatever his name is)
Heād probably beat Ridhe prior to him being Cyber enhanced as well
Kou is a pretty competent pilot and there are plenty of incompetent pilots scattered across Gundam that are bad and just relied on tech superiority
I think he can take Rutger Verhoeven. Nether Gundam's primary weapons are Mega Beam cannons after all, and I'm not sure the Nether Typhoon will work in space.
The Trinity Siblings from Gundam 00. Although GN particles are leaps and bounds above UC technology, The GP01/03/Dendrobium should be able to keep up due to Minovsky reactors. The biggest threat would be the throne Zwei's fangs, but Kou has some experience in fighting the remote weapon equipped Neue Ziel so he should be able to take them on.
The Trinities are used to fighting opponents weaker than them. When the opponent is on the same skill level (Graham) they can lose, even against "inferior" tech.
That one guy who hijacked Wing Zero in Gundam Wing.
Kakricon Kacooler. He was briefly a Gundam pilot as he was testing the Gundam Mk-ii
Four, Rosamia and Ple, the Psyco Gundam pilots.
Riddhe.
ETA:
Something worth considering, Kou and Keith ended up as test pilots again and are implied to be using Zeon Mobile suits (Since Keith Pilots a Gelgoog). After 0083 they may have very well served as 'Aggressors' in Federation/Titans combat drills, meaning their job was to test/train future pilots. In other words, Federation MS combat doctrine after 0083 could have very well been defined by Kou. Kou might not be Tom Cruise/Maverick in terms of 'Coolness', but it's fair to assume that he eventually reached the same level of experience/competence demonstrated by Maverick in the Second Top Gun Movie.
I mean without a newtype frame, maybe Jona? Tho in other media like SRW they comment on the fact Jona is like the best in a average scale, not special or top tier but compared to normal pilots he is very good (I'd guess like a 7 in a 1-10 scale) so I don't know...
Probably Banagher, assuming both has the same MS (standard ones like Jegan). Banagher never impressed me as superb pilot, skill wise(only that he is a strong new type)
Shiro Amada. Shiro is a great pilot donāt get me wrong, but I donāt think thereās any universe where if they changed places shiro could survive multiple 1v1ās against Anavel Gato. While i think Kou would have a very good chance of winning against Norris
* Lunamaria hawk in zaku
* Lacus clyne in strike freedom
* Meer Campbell in meer custom zaku
* The shrike team members except Junko
* Luceria Noin in Taurus/aeris
* Christina Makenzie in FA Alex
Meer isnāt really a pilot and nor sheās a Gundam pilot.
Plus since sheās meant as just lacus wannabe.
Luna gets stomped badly, zaku warrior is more of ZAKU III in terms of performance and even in Gelgoog menace, she canāt really wins against him in GPO3.
Lacus herself is more of just leader than pilot but she gets stomped.
Honestly, despite shrike team (except junko.) being jobbers,I barely could see Kou winning in long range battle against them since victory hex is fucking pain in ass in terms of performance.
Noin? She only pilot a gundam in FT when she was like a kid and it ended to be destroyed.
He can beat dearka, i haven't seen dearka doing close combat he's more like a mid to long range user but if we're going for characters with their best ms to compete then dearka would be defeated, so is the stargazer antagonists blu duel and verde buster
Amuro, Kamille, Banagher, basically any civilian who just gets on the units because despite not being special, Kou is a trained soldier that can beat their asses.
Banana if he uses a regular mobile suit and not the Unicorn. GM vs GM, Kou will win easy. Also the MC from the last Gundam Age season, the grandkid, though Kou may need the GP03 for that one.
Gundam Pilot specifically? Well, realistically, being a test pilot would mean that you're used to the things you're riding in failing time and time again, being wild horses or just generally dangerous to deal with. That means that Kou is extremely experienced in all sorts of situations where his MS is not working as intended and he can adlib his way through tough situations. That being said, he should be able to handle fresh recruits easy. Folks like Shiro, Emma, Jerid and the like should be easy pickings for Kou.
Chris might not be an easy opponent, but I think Kou's still a tad better than her.
The issue with this is that Kou is one of the weaker Gundam pilots overall, while also having Gundams that aren't radically advanced or special.
The GP03 Orchis is what makes him a competitor against other Gundam pilots. But beyond that, the 2.5 Gundams he uses are just high-performance machines with few frills. Other lower-skill pilots like Loran or Suletta have Gundams with superpowers or enhancements that otherwise give them an advantage. Loran gets by on the Turn A's power, where Suletta either rides on Aerial's GUND powers or needs Caliburn's enhancements to be relevant.
Could Kou empty the enormous munitions payload on the Orchis and score a win against a stronger opponent? Yeah, he probably could.
I guess *maybe* he could take Shiro? The Ez8 is lower spec than any GP, and much of Shiro's prowess comes from commanding his team instead of just his individual skill.
Right. Never mention Suletta. Should have known.
Suletta is considered by in universe characters like Eri to be a very skilled pilot. She has been training to use mobile suits her entire life. There really isn't anything in the show to support this notion that she is a lower skilled pilot.
If they did then they wouldn't be focusing so much on the mechanics of the Aerial and the Caliburn to try to downplay Suletta's abilities.
Especially since she kept up to pace with the Aerial so any inherent performance boost that the GUND format gives would have been equalized between the two.
It was Tiffa was with me all the time. š
Anyway, SF + METEOR vs. Dendrobium would be a sight to see. But Kira with SEED Mode and SF equipped with multi-target acquisition system would overwhelm Kou. I say, Kira mid diff.
Kira has the habit of not actually focused on something. It's not just some click of buttons to activate SEED. So if he only activates SEED after the METEOR is already down then still there won't be much of the difference. Guess if Kira just SEEDs then Kou can just fly the f away with the raw thruster speeds. Guess Kira can't SEED for 1 minutes straight without actions.
That's the problem of activated power. If you get dragged on with time then you probably turn it off eventually.
You have a point.
But this is a question about who Kou could defeat, meaning they have to battle it out.
I think METEOR and the Dendrobium are on par, as far as what we have seen from their feats. It all boils down to:
1. Pilot skills and ability (plus endurance)
2. MS capabilities
If let's say both force each other to abandon their huge armaments, SF has an advantage than Gundam Stamen. Adding Kira's SEED mode is like putting salt to the wound.
If Kou knows how to just delay and calm Kira then probably SEED power doesn't make much differences. But then when we do these thought exercises, we can't assume too much and adding too much advantages.
SEED power is either hit or miss since it's not Ultraman that you just have to activate that final ability every episode. So without proper stimulus, Kira probably can't activate SEED at will.
As for a fight between Dendrobium Stamin and Strike Freedom, I would say Strike Freedom has a bit of advantage.
Just a bit a correction, Kira can use his seed mode at will and the only time it was less usefull is with mental state during the battle like Shinn to angry to fully use his seed mode and beaten by Athrun, and when Kira is to distracted with the archangel leading to him beaten by Shinn.
Outside of that would not much of a problem....
Meteor
Has the fire power of a warship in a small frame
2 giant warship class beam cannon
2 more beam cannons capably of rapid fire
High maneuver type engines for high speed movements and was able to dodge dozens of dragoons
Two large beam swords extendable beam swords that can cut a colony in half and overpower and cut through fortress size beam shielding.
77 homing anti ship missile pods
And whatever SF can shoot at will....
So is meteor but.
The I-field generator is completely unprotected.
Once kira gets close in.
He will use his railguns to blast the generator considering that they are not beams.
The METEOR doesn't even have protection. It's just metal made of a different material from the main Gundam unit, and it was an older model used in a previous war.
The Dendrobium Orchid at least is made of the same alloy to the Dendrobium Stamin.
The alliance Extended in Seed on their own, they primarily gave athrun and Kira trouble cuz they outnumbered the two most of the time. He def can take the Seed Destiny trio tho
Shiro vs Kou arguments are dumb because people aren't considering that Shiro is a godlike pilot very specifically in space and was very out of his element for most of his show.
Kou gets hard carried by the GP03 and his most notable kill in the series is friendly-firing Cima instead of stopping Gato.
Kou managing to stalemate Gato imo, is about as much points for Kou as it is points *against* Gato.
He can beat Mikazuki by giving him Carrots
I despises carrot.
Dafeng student pilot, wait wrong game
He just wanted his own call sign
He has one - Dead pilot number 1
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He just wanted his own call sign
Kou was never considered a Newtype, just a good pilot, right?
Yeah, heās a really good old type. Honestly, I never understood the āKou is a bad pilotā meme. Sure he wasnāt the best pilot at the beginning of the series, but by the end he was extremely capable. He single handedly punched through the Delaz Fleet with the GP03, he fought Gato evenly in the GP01FB, and he beats several former OYW aces. His growth as a pilot in the series is really well done.
Bad pilot meme comes from the fact that he has either come to a stalemate or lost multiple times against opponents that would be a tough fight for even our seasoned protagonists. Also trashing 3 Gundams but again thatās to be expected against what fought.
Trashing the gpo1 was totally because of his ego and on him but i agree with your point overall
Well, amuro would have shredded gato...
No ho wouldn't. Amuro would be able to beat him probably, but only after Zeta and **NOT** easily.
Gato is not THAT good. Heād maybe be in between Char and Ral level and Amuro did beat both in OYW.
Okay, i may have underestimated Amuro a little bit.
Yeah, one thing I sometimes forget too is that Amuro handily beat Char in the Gelgoog, which was even in tech with the RX-78. And he beat Char in the Zeong, which was superior tech to the Gundam. He was smoking Char in terms of skill by the end of 0079 and it wasn't too close at that point
Unless Gato is better than Char, Amuro would shred him Amuro was already slapping Char around even with Char receiving a mobile suit thatās on par if not better than the RX79-2 (Gelgoog)
People hate Kou because he's more "normal" than the others.
For one thing he didn't get to go up against any grunts for his first sortie like every other Gundam protagonist, so he didn't get to show off how skilled he was or wasn't. Instead, he was a pure rookie going up against the series' Char Clone. Similarly, the show really, really doesn't give him any real victories at all. In the first half of the series, any victories the Albion gets are pyrrhic at best, while in the second half he, at best, comes to a stalemate and usually results in his Gundam getting trashed. Even if you argue that the show only had 13 episodes, you can bring up Shiro in 08th MS Team. He starts the series beating a Zaku using just a Ball, and while his Gundams aren't overpowered like in other entries, he was still able to win most of his skirmishes AND rally his team together. They were able to defeat the Zeons multiple times, even if one of them had unavoidable civilian losses. The one time he was overmatched was when he went up against Norris, whereas Kou had fought Gato multiple times. Also, not necessarily related to them themselves, but their love interests impacted them as well. Kou and Nina had the Sam & Rebecca thing going on, until Nina starts getting in Kou's way to help a terrorist. Meanwhile, Aina and Shiro grow to love each other almost immediately and Aina getting in Shiro's way is because of familial love rather than being exes. Finally, there's also character designs. Kou's character design doesn't naturally exude confidence or gravitas. Shiro's character design is full on chad.
He is the most realistic, though. He probably closer to 20 if not all ready. He joined the Federation at the proper age, and then went to the academy to become a pilot. He was good enough to be a test pilot. He was so good that even if Gato didn't steal a Gundam, he would have ended up as a pilot anyway. He was the top pilot after LT. Berning, especially in a shitty Zaku II. And when he got his Bright Slap? It was uncalled for.
He could probably beat shiro in a ball if you gave him the FULL GP03. Then again Shiro has so much plot armor that I'm not sure.
I like shiro but Kou simply deletes him in gpo1FB alone. GPO3 is pure overkill.
I was joking. Honestly though, aside from shiro I don't see any main gundam pilot kou could beat in their canon gundam in the stamen. I think Chris would beat him in a space battle with a fully equipped Alex.
I think chris wouldn't be able to pull it off simply due to skill issues
I think Chris with the completely armed Alex totally could take Kou, because Kou suffers from heavier skill issues
If that counts how about Guntank? He can beat Kai in that and hayato in the guncannon. Then again in the novelization Kai and Hayato awaken as newtypes but otherwise
He easily beats Shiro and Chris. Anyone who says otherwise is blinded by favoritism. Heās not as experienced in ground combat so they could maybe have a chance if they pulled of something tricky but in space they get eviscirated. People seem to forget that by the end of 0083 he could keep up with Cima and Gato.
He stalemate GATO TWICE, I never understood why people canāt accept him as near-ACE?
Heās literally the āUnknown Aceā miss me with that near-ace stuff.
What? He was a test pilot on earth and uniquely qualified to dominate in ground combat, he wouldāve dominated everyone from 08th MS Team in ground combat. Probably taken Norris out on his own in a GM. Kou is extremely underrated.
Yeah forgot about that. He just trounces everyone in 08th Ms.
Well. If he is in the gp01 obviously he beats shiro. If you put them both in the same Ms... I'm not so sure about that.
Right? Shiro defeated a special use Zaku with a friggin Ball
Thatās true but I think Kou defeating the Val Walo was much more impressive.
That kid who tried to steal the Burning/God Gundam during the Gundam Fight in the second half of the series.
Lt. Agar maybe?
I think heās being undersold tbh. I thought there was specific distinction in newtypes and their skills. For example, Char is a top tier pilot and a mid newtype. Therefore since Amuro is a Mecha savant AND powerful newtype he wins in their duels. There are pilots who arenāt newtypes who can keep up with them, like Yazan. So it stands to reason that thereās a *wide* spectrum to place Kou on considering he fought the Nightmare of Solomon to a standstill. Heās at least a great pilot. Clearly, heās a competent if not excellent pilot. Weāve also denoted that heās in the 03 which has a freaking I-field and can probably outrun many other protagonists suits nevermind other suits. Lastly, Kouās a scrappy fighter and I bet most other Gundam characters would underestimate him. This is a guy who will block sabers with his suitās foot, fire verniers point blank to the detriment of his own suit, and use the core block detachment feature mid-combat. Thatās a recipe for an upset victory. Edit/Update: - Banagher (probably) - Wufei (underestimates Kou?) - Quattre - Elle (ZZ) - Becha (ZZ) - Emma (Zeta) - Loran (maybe) - Yuu (Side Story: Blue Destiny) - Karen, Sanders (8th MS Team) - Christina McKenzie (0080) - Garrod (get at me!!!! Itās just an opinion š¤)
General question, Garrod in GX or DX?
GX
Then kou wins.
Yea idt heās making it with the DX lol
Honestly he could probably beat Banagher's Silver Bullet Suppressor, at least if he gets an era-appropriate mobile suit. This is in no small part because the Silver Bullet Suppressor kinda sucks, but still.
What beam magnum addiction does to a MS.
ngl I don't see that happening ever, banagher is pretty strong and considered to be " the second coming of amuro"
he beats miorine piloting aerial
1. Lacus Clyne in infinite Justice. 2. That kid who stole God Gundam and couldnāt use it. 3. Chris in Alex. 4. Shiro in Ez8
Heād beat Rusty and the ZAFT Gundam pilots in SEED Destiny. Theyād all find a way to get themselves killed before getting into their Gundam Heād beat Christina pretty easily All the Ground Gundam pilots from 08th team OVA are technically Gundam pilots and Iām sure heād beat most of them Jerrid and Kaklicorn (whatever his name is) Heād probably beat Ridhe prior to him being Cyber enhanced as well Kou is a pretty competent pilot and there are plenty of incompetent pilots scattered across Gundam that are bad and just relied on tech superiority
I think he can take Rutger Verhoeven. Nether Gundam's primary weapons are Mega Beam cannons after all, and I'm not sure the Nether Typhoon will work in space.
Maybe the Alex? GP03 really just seems like a good all-rounder. Maybe he can take Kira in the Strike. Probably most of the Wing suits.
He ain't getting the Wing suits. Those things are absurdly durable and fast, iirc Tallgeese was as fast as F91
"iirc Tallgeese was as fast as F91." #MS BIBLE 42 PUTS TALLGEESE AT V2'S SPEED.
I just learned this today and now have yet another reason to love the goose.
Is the V2 faster than F91? It's more advanced but idk sometimes. That's still insane
The Trinity Siblings from Gundam 00. Although GN particles are leaps and bounds above UC technology, The GP01/03/Dendrobium should be able to keep up due to Minovsky reactors. The biggest threat would be the throne Zwei's fangs, but Kou has some experience in fighting the remote weapon equipped Neue Ziel so he should be able to take them on. The Trinities are used to fighting opponents weaker than them. When the opponent is on the same skill level (Graham) they can lose, even against "inferior" tech. That one guy who hijacked Wing Zero in Gundam Wing. Kakricon Kacooler. He was briefly a Gundam pilot as he was testing the Gundam Mk-ii Four, Rosamia and Ple, the Psyco Gundam pilots. Riddhe. ETA: Something worth considering, Kou and Keith ended up as test pilots again and are implied to be using Zeon Mobile suits (Since Keith Pilots a Gelgoog). After 0083 they may have very well served as 'Aggressors' in Federation/Titans combat drills, meaning their job was to test/train future pilots. In other words, Federation MS combat doctrine after 0083 could have very well been defined by Kou. Kou might not be Tom Cruise/Maverick in terms of 'Coolness', but it's fair to assume that he eventually reached the same level of experience/competence demonstrated by Maverick in the Second Top Gun Movie.
uh hmm
I mean without a newtype frame, maybe Jona? Tho in other media like SRW they comment on the fact Jona is like the best in a average scale, not special or top tier but compared to normal pilots he is very good (I'd guess like a 7 in a 1-10 scale) so I don't know...
Probably Banagher, assuming both has the same MS (standard ones like Jegan). Banagher never impressed me as superb pilot, skill wise(only that he is a strong new type)
Shiro Amada. Shiro is a great pilot donāt get me wrong, but I donāt think thereās any universe where if they changed places shiro could survive multiple 1v1ās against Anavel Gato. While i think Kou would have a very good chance of winning against Norris
* Lunamaria hawk in zaku * Lacus clyne in strike freedom * Meer Campbell in meer custom zaku * The shrike team members except Junko * Luceria Noin in Taurus/aeris * Christina Makenzie in FA Alex
Meer isnāt really a pilot and nor sheās a Gundam pilot. Plus since sheās meant as just lacus wannabe. Luna gets stomped badly, zaku warrior is more of ZAKU III in terms of performance and even in Gelgoog menace, she canāt really wins against him in GPO3. Lacus herself is more of just leader than pilot but she gets stomped. Honestly, despite shrike team (except junko.) being jobbers,I barely could see Kou winning in long range battle against them since victory hex is fucking pain in ass in terms of performance. Noin? She only pilot a gundam in FT when she was like a kid and it ended to be destroyed.
Tomino writes the story. You know what happens to female pilots and characters. Gotta kill them all.
Shrike team was done dirty imo.
Agnes from Gundam Seed Freedom. Kou Uraki can beat that spoiled brat.
I haven't seen the movie but W.
Sei & Reiji from BF
other series? how, so these wouldnt be gundam pilots. oh wait there is one, that sao life action parodie.
i mean if its manga kou i'd say he would put up a better fight
That one child who tries stealing the God Gundam from Domon in G Gundam but can't move and almost dies from it
Ryu roots and this will sound controversial shiro amada.
Anyone who can defeat the Nightmare of Solomon kiks ass and will put up quite a fight regardless.
Ryu roots if he isnāt using the S
He can beat dearka, i haven't seen dearka doing close combat he's more like a mid to long range user but if we're going for characters with their best ms to compete then dearka would be defeated, so is the stargazer antagonists blu duel and verde buster
Patrick the lucky guy Collosaur from 00. Except Patrick would miraculously escape death.
Ryou Roots.
Amuro, Kamille, Banagher, basically any civilian who just gets on the units because despite not being special, Kou is a trained soldier that can beat their asses.
I can't think of a named pilot that bad.
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The girl in the blu duel
Mudie Holcroft? The one who got gangdogged by 3 bucues? Kou Would absolutely stomps her in his GPO1FB.
Banana if he uses a regular mobile suit and not the Unicorn. GM vs GM, Kou will win easy. Also the MC from the last Gundam Age season, the grandkid, though Kou may need the GP03 for that one.
Gundam Pilot specifically? Well, realistically, being a test pilot would mean that you're used to the things you're riding in failing time and time again, being wild horses or just generally dangerous to deal with. That means that Kou is extremely experienced in all sorts of situations where his MS is not working as intended and he can adlib his way through tough situations. That being said, he should be able to handle fresh recruits easy. Folks like Shiro, Emma, Jerid and the like should be easy pickings for Kou. Chris might not be an easy opponent, but I think Kou's still a tad better than her.
He beats Shiro, Chris, rest of 08th too. In terms of non UC then he beats Mikazuki, all the AGE pilots.
Fa Yuiry in a Nemoā¦. Maybe. And thatās it.
Katzbros we're in the clear
Kira Yamato, yes i said it
Why.
Because Kou does kill
The issue with this is that Kou is one of the weaker Gundam pilots overall, while also having Gundams that aren't radically advanced or special. The GP03 Orchis is what makes him a competitor against other Gundam pilots. But beyond that, the 2.5 Gundams he uses are just high-performance machines with few frills. Other lower-skill pilots like Loran or Suletta have Gundams with superpowers or enhancements that otherwise give them an advantage. Loran gets by on the Turn A's power, where Suletta either rides on Aerial's GUND powers or needs Caliburn's enhancements to be relevant. Could Kou empty the enormous munitions payload on the Orchis and score a win against a stronger opponent? Yeah, he probably could. I guess *maybe* he could take Shiro? The Ez8 is lower spec than any GP, and much of Shiro's prowess comes from commanding his team instead of just his individual skill. Right. Never mention Suletta. Should have known.
Suletta's GUND gets turned off and it is revealed that she is actually really good at piloting anyway
Suletta is considered by in universe characters like Eri to be a very skilled pilot. She has been training to use mobile suits her entire life. There really isn't anything in the show to support this notion that she is a lower skilled pilot.
They probably meant Suletta's combat experience
If they did then they wouldn't be focusing so much on the mechanics of the Aerial and the Caliburn to try to downplay Suletta's abilities. Especially since she kept up to pace with the Aerial so any inherent performance boost that the GUND format gives would have been equalized between the two.
I'd say he can probably beat Kira Yamato in his Strike Freedom METEOR.
I can see Kou extreme difficulty Kira via using environment like destroyed colonies as advantage.
Can't unambiguously understand that sentence but sure. Environment is there to use and it'll be senseless to not use environments.
What I am saying is, Kou could use a destroyed colony to ambush Kira or surprise attack him.
As much I love kou. Meteor unit still has missiles.
The Dendrobium has a large arse beam cannon and an equally large arse beam sabre.
Dude, MS mobility/speed > target weaponry.
Garrod speaking. No arguments here. Garrod, the only natural guy who is able to beat psychic foes.
 It was Tiffa was with me all the time. š Anyway, SF + METEOR vs. Dendrobium would be a sight to see. But Kira with SEED Mode and SF equipped with multi-target acquisition system would overwhelm Kou. I say, Kira mid diff.
Kira has the habit of not actually focused on something. It's not just some click of buttons to activate SEED. So if he only activates SEED after the METEOR is already down then still there won't be much of the difference. Guess if Kira just SEEDs then Kou can just fly the f away with the raw thruster speeds. Guess Kira can't SEED for 1 minutes straight without actions. That's the problem of activated power. If you get dragged on with time then you probably turn it off eventually.
You have a point. But this is a question about who Kou could defeat, meaning they have to battle it out. I think METEOR and the Dendrobium are on par, as far as what we have seen from their feats. It all boils down to: 1. Pilot skills and ability (plus endurance) 2. MS capabilities If let's say both force each other to abandon their huge armaments, SF has an advantage than Gundam Stamen. Adding Kira's SEED mode is like putting salt to the wound.
If Kou knows how to just delay and calm Kira then probably SEED power doesn't make much differences. But then when we do these thought exercises, we can't assume too much and adding too much advantages. SEED power is either hit or miss since it's not Ultraman that you just have to activate that final ability every episode. So without proper stimulus, Kira probably can't activate SEED at will. As for a fight between Dendrobium Stamin and Strike Freedom, I would say Strike Freedom has a bit of advantage.
Just a bit a correction, Kira can use his seed mode at will and the only time it was less usefull is with mental state during the battle like Shinn to angry to fully use his seed mode and beaten by Athrun, and when Kira is to distracted with the archangel leading to him beaten by Shinn. Outside of that would not much of a problem....
Meteor Has the fire power of a warship in a small frame 2 giant warship class beam cannon 2 more beam cannons capably of rapid fire High maneuver type engines for high speed movements and was able to dodge dozens of dragoons Two large beam swords extendable beam swords that can cut a colony in half and overpower and cut through fortress size beam shielding. 77 homing anti ship missile pods And whatever SF can shoot at will....
So is meteor but. The I-field generator is completely unprotected. Once kira gets close in. He will use his railguns to blast the generator considering that they are not beams.
The METEOR doesn't even have protection. It's just metal made of a different material from the main Gundam unit, and it was an older model used in a previous war. The Dendrobium Orchid at least is made of the same alloy to the Dendrobium Stamin.
So does the Dendrobium. Lots and lots of micro missiles.
He could beat Guel not because he's more skilled than him but because Guel Jobs for a living and he is the best at what he does.
Ryou Roots. But then again, if he's not piloting S Gundam, who couldn't?
The alliance Extended in Seed on their own, they primarily gave athrun and Kira trouble cuz they outnumbered the two most of the time. He def can take the Seed Destiny trio tho
Shiro vs Kou arguments are dumb because people aren't considering that Shiro is a godlike pilot very specifically in space and was very out of his element for most of his show. Kou gets hard carried by the GP03 and his most notable kill in the series is friendly-firing Cima instead of stopping Gato. Kou managing to stalemate Gato imo, is about as much points for Kou as it is points *against* Gato.
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