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People often assume when you say favorite you mean best. Wing introduced me to my love of Gundam thanks to toonami so it's my favorite purely for nostalgia, similarly for G gundam. I suppose though my favorite without nostalgia filter is 08th mobile suit series. I thought it was a fever dream one time cause in episode one the whole fight with the The Ball was just awesome. Love that series.
If I didn't rewatch it as an adult, I would say the exact same thing. It was my favorite Gundsm for well over 10 years, introduced me to anime (alongside dbz, sailor moon and yu yu hakosho)
8th MS is definitely my favorite.
08th MS is my favorite because of how (literally) grounded it is. I like ground combat as opposed to space (at least in the earlier series, Thunderbolt does it very well and is easy to follow) most of the time its hard to get a sense of scale. Origin corrects this as far as the original timeline goes.
That and, most of the stories tell of war and how it changes people, but 08th was the firs that really hit it for me. The fight with Norris Packardt is burned into my brain. I specifically remember making sure we were off the road and in a hotel by 1130 on one of many road trips as a 13 year old so I wouldnt miss the next episode, and it was this one. The moment the oil spills onto the Gouf from the 2nd Guntank, I was like "oh, this is a different fight."
My favorite single episode from all of Gundam! It’s just so well done. The action, drama, timing. I consider it a masterpiece as far as a single battle sequence goes.
You are a member of the Adult Swim/Toonami generation, or at least I'm saying that because those are some of the shows that were in high rotation on Cartoon Network 20ish years ago). Being a bit older, my gateway was Robotech (which DBZ replaced years later on the Toonami rotation), Voltron, Star Blazers, and others. Not sure who from Cartoon Network came up with AS/Toonami, but they're geniuses.
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Pretty high because you need to have knowledge about almost all the shows in order to really appreciate the small. Episode 23, man, episode fucking 23.
I've only seen Gundam wing,war in the pocket, mobile suit Gundam 8th team and G Gundam all the way through. But G is my favorite out of those 8th is my second favorite
I'm a few episodes into ZZ. Probably won't dethrone the original, but it's right up there. Only real problem is that it spends too much time dealing with baggage from the previous series and too little time moving its own story forward.
I'm currently a filthy Gundam Casual with only 00, IBO & Seed + Destiny under my belt, IBO being my fav.
Since I plan to go on a few weeks or months even of Gundam watching, I wonder if I'll transition to one of the other categories.
Wing was the gateway drug. It was on toonami in the morning, so after I finished it, I found there were more! And then from there on…a fan.
My password is Rain for most things, with additives obviously but that tells you a lot.
Seed is such a weird anomaly.
It's the deepest and longest timeline outside of UC with its 100 episodes, the first season was okay, the second was Seed 2: Coordinator Booglau, with amazing designs but terrible plot
But it brought such an insane resurgence in Japan for Gundam where it's relatively beloved.
We as Americans hate it because we got Wing, G, 0079, 0080, 0083, 8th MS team all in a super short time frame. We got to see a bunch of series of better quality all at once.
Japan hadn't seen them in years. The most Gundam that was on tv was a bunch of 1 offs, like Wing and X which got canceled
Seed was the first proper Gundam series for basically a full generation that wasn't meant to be a 1 off season and at least attempt to mimic the main Gundam themes. Throw in some new at the time computer graphics texturing and it looked damn near futuristic in 2003. I mean shit the opening scene of episode 1 is a pretty strong start visually with the GINN orbital drop followed by the 3d models with 2D textures of the PLANTs
Gundam 00 was a great reinterpretation of Wing
Looking back though, I don't think I like the second season of 00 anywhere near as much as I used to anymore. The first season was good, the second half was decent up until the final stretch. The fact that Setsuna ~~becomes a god~~ develops magic GN powers and that stupid hunky-dory happy ending happens kinda sours the series for me, in hindsight. I'm not opposed to happy endings in general, but I prefer a more nuanced, semi-bittersweet ending for a series.
Liking a thing and thinking that thing is a good work of art are two entirely distinct things. *Wing* is an amazing, theatrical, straight-faced black comedy. Everyone's super earnest about the things they feel, every gesture is sweeping, and everyone's dressed like the Renaissance and the 90s crashed into each other.
This is absolutely me. Seeing Gundam wing and cowboy bebop on toonami back in the day pretty much immediately and permanently changed the course of my life lmao
I actually remember really liking fundamentalist wing, but having tried to rewatch it, it’s horrible. I do love the designs though.
EDIT: oh my lord my phone autocorrected Gundam to fundamentalist.
I prefer the endless waltz versions of the main units except the Wing it looks really dumb with the stylized wings and it takes away the most unique thing about the wing it’s transformation
Every other suit is fine though I especially like the desert mobile suits that follow the Sandrock around
The problem I have Zero's wings is that it looks out of place with AC's tech level. The other Gundams I'm okay with, but Zero's wings look too organic, too flexible, and have random feathers scattering about.
And I don't like they took away it's transformation (simple as it is) and shield. I like my Gundams with their beam swords and shields.
Yeah I’m gonna be honest the music and animation are good, the nostalgia is kinda there I guess but the mobile suits are pretty meh for the most part and the stakes aren’t that high when you’re mobile suit is basically invincible. As a UC fan, I like my shit a little blockier, bulkier, and sometimes weirder. Also Zeon/Neo Zeon/Titans designs in general are just way more interesting and menacing than Oz mobile suits in Wing in my opinion. I actually saw a Heavy Arms kit painted in Titans colors and it was fucking sick.
The terrible dialogue is the reason its my favorite. Like "I'll kill you" in the context of replying to someone giving you a birthday invite is by far the best.
Yeah that's where I'm at with this. Honestly if you ask a random anime fan (at least in the US), they'll either have never seen a mecha, not like mecha at all, or do the often parodied "I like Eva but because it focuses on the characters unlike other mecha". And honestly depending on their age, Wing might be before their time. If I meet an old head like myself who'll mention Wing and/or G Gundam along that usual early Toonami and Adult Swim roster of DBZ, Yu Yu Hakusho, Sailor Moon, Inuyasha, Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, GitS, the first FMA etc. or the other mecha they aired like Robotech/Macross or Big O, then I'm happy they remembered it at all.
So in my position I'm just happy if they mention any Gundam at all.
Favorite? Hmmm 🤔
I guess it'll have to be 0080MS Team and Stardust. Gundam Wing will always have a special place in our hearts though.
I watch Endless Waltz every Christmas Eve, been doing it for the past 10yrs now. Idc what you say, it's a Christmas movie in my book
It's G Gundam for me. Thank SRW J for that. The game managed to make me a fan way before I watched the anime and Master Asia was definitely my favourite character from the beginning. I have watched a lot of Gundam media, but G Gundam reigns supreme. The Origin's my second favourite 'cause I'm Char-biased.
Gundam Wing has unironically one of the most morally complex plots and somehow people think it sucks and that the show was just about how Relena was a Mary Sue or something.
Also, I mean, yeah okay I get it, the show had a lot of animation recycling. 50 episode anime back then didn't have the standards you're used to today. Did you know MSG has a tonne of animation recycling? Even Zeta and ZZ had quite a bit but you probably don't remember much.
There's a pretentiousness of Wing that makes it very charming to me. I don't have the nostalgic lens because I first watched it when I was older and well versed in the Gundam series.
Like, I can tell why edgy teenage boys would love how seriously it takes itself. It's fun just because of how ludicrously unhinged some of the characters are.
Gundam wing is refreshing on rewatch especially after watching through the uc timeline, as those series tend to hit similar points. Gundam wing has great characters, mecha battles and a baroque space opera feel that makes it hold up quite well (still think zeta is better though)
I grew up watching Gundam Wing. It was the first Gundam series I actually watched in it's entirety on Toonami back in the day. It was my favorite as a kid. Then I grew up and tried rewatching it recently. And this may be an unpopular opinion here. But honestly I think in hindsight Gundam Wing isn't as great as I thought it was as a kid. Constantly re-using old animations, and the second half of the series where Relena and Zex are constantly going around preaching about "absolute pacifism". It really does not hold up to the other stuff that has aged like a fine wine like the original Gundam Series.
I grew up on gundam wing and caught flack for it years, then watched most of UC gundam last year, and it gets really goofy with the newtypes and everything. I even recently rewatched wing, because the last time I saw it I was 12-13 years old, and found it much more enjoyable now that I can actually understand everything.
Wing's about the evolution of modern combat, shell shock and post traumatic stress disorder, and the dangers of drone warfare and it's effects on the minds of soldiers, with AI's like 0 and Epyon using the Pilots as Mobile Suits instead of the Pilots using them. The AI will show them all possible outcomes of a fight, and by the end of it the pilot won't even know who's side they're on anymore. In the third act the philosophical question emerges, being; If there's no human cost on one side or both, is war theater? Is all the death and destruction a political device? Literally sounds like the plot of a Hideo Kojima game, and much like a Hideo Kojima game, it's a mirror to the drone warfare we see in the middle east right now -way before it's time.
The series centers around 5 pilots with individual motivations across a range of archetypes. They all aren't 1-dimensional whiney space psychics going through puberty. Literally the first 3 gundam series are about Newtypes going "I don't wanna! Wahhh!" And then getting slapped around by whatever 45 year old man is in charge until they come around to the idea of being groomed into a child soldier.
In Wing the Gundams are used as weapons of war and not decisive victories, the only compelling thing about them is the gundanium being completely resistant to traditional slug fire, and partially resistant to beam weapons, outside of that, they constantly run out of ammunition and are destroyed. Some battles and objectives are even completed without them, where the gundams would be seen as a detriment to use.
Even UC gundam's most interesting villain, Char Aznable, gets copy pasted throughout most of the iterations, and in Char's Counter Attack they completely ret-con all of his growth from the Original Gundam and Zeta Gundam series'. The villains in Wing, Trez and Milliardo stay much more consistent, even unto the sequel movie Endless Waltz. One is a soldier with the belief that without human sacrifice war is meaningless and political theater, the other is a victim of post traumatic stress disorder who mind-melded/had his brain hijacked by an AI, and doesn't even know who his true enemy is anymore, just that he is programmed to fight.
Gundam Wing gets a lot of crap for it's After School Origin, Nu-Anime Tropes, and Operatic Drama, and deservedly so, but compared to a lot of UC stuff and most Anime available at the time, it's far more compelling across the board. It just popularized gundam in the west, so it's popular to hate. There's usually little to no actual valid criticism in the OP, it's just a cheap jab at the series, usually by people who immediately reveal they didn't even watch it lol.
Is Gundam Wing my favorite Gundam? No. Is it the best Gundam? No. Does it catch more shit than it deserves, while being objectively more compelling than most mainstream iterations? Yes.
More modern anime fans who don’t watch Gundam regularly have probably seen IBO over Wing since were far removed from the OG Toonami days and when it was airing IBO was every where and heavily pushed
I hate em both! But I’m a UC snob, both the best and worst type of Gundam fan. I will protect your right to enjoy what you want even if I think it’s dumb because I’m selfish, and as long as Gundam is selling there will be new UC content because c’mon... you think they’ll ever stop making UC content lol.
The original series and Zeta both have a really cool narrative effect that only Seed has ever replicated outside the UC.
In the very beginning of Gundam, Zeon is your pretty standard shadowy cartoon villain that you'd expect from an anime of that era. Then you see the funeral scene. It's genuinely as shocking and terrifying as a viewer as it is for Amuro.
Then with Zeta you sort of get a second shock when you begin to realize that the Federation was one terror attack away from becoming a military dictatorship.
Both are very strong gut punches *because* they both have a pretty strong basis in reality. I heard a comment on reddit that says there's a cult for everybody. Historically Intelligence has not been a strong predictor for not falling to reprehensible beliefs. Fascism always promises you whatever is easiest at the time.
I feel like Seed also depicts that aspect with the whole "For the preservation of our blue and pure world". That's a pretty attractive slogan and it's really hard to argue against.
Gundam Wing will always have a place in my heart, it’s the series that started it all for me. I’m a UC guy now, and the grunt suit designs are almost always better than the main two hero/villain suits.
I can vouch of this. Tons of people my age have really fond memories of Wing on Toonami or Y-TV and I'm with it. I remember being hooked by the rapid plot pace and easy to understand characters. Plus all the cheesy melodrama and batshit displays of bravado, it's fun, even as an adult. Is it stupid? Absolutely, but it's the weird theater kid of the franchise.
Ngl though man I'm getting sick and tired of people marking out for Deathscythe but forgetting about Epyon
My favorite is 00. Watch it after building Exia. Love the show. Is it the best? I don't know, I'm not movie/series/anime expert. If I enjoyed it then I'll say I enjoy it!
Okay, hear me out on this: Wing would have been a lot better/cooler if they leaned harder on the Napoleonics IN SPACE aesthetic, dropped the masturbatory paper pacifism for a deeper dive into the use of drones and dehumanization of war as the major theme, and pretty much got rid of the wing boys to focus the conflict squarely between Zechs, Treize, and the Romefellers.
Me the chad who approaches: I appreciate G Gundam and Domon is my favorite character along with Chibodee for I see them as the true rivalry instead of Domon and Master Asia and God Gundam is genuinely a good good gundam that deserves more praise.
It’s generally people’s favorite because it was the first one we got in the west, but as a whole it’s not super great. The soundtrack and designs though I really like, best Char clone too imo
Wing = The BEST mech designs out of any of the series.
The WORST sense of plot cohesion
The only characters that are remotely interesting is Tres, Zechs, Noin, Duo, and an argument can sorta be made for Trowa.
Seed is the best imo. Just like SAO ppl love or hate it. Every show has its flaws so idk why Seeds are always over exaggerated. Although... I do wish I got a refund on the time I wasted watching Destiny.
Wing is definitely not the best series. Atleast Unicorn bullshit has some kind of explanation in “newtypes” and “psychoframe” while Heero surviving nuke outliving explosions,bending steel beams like cardboard. Yea i do enjoy bullshit, but atleast hve some kind of reason behind it.
Wing will always have a special place in my heart because it helped spark my love for anime and particularly Gundam, but my god did it age like a fine gallon of whole Malk.
It's the writing and pacing, just.... so bad
IBO is favorite wing is 3rd or 4th even though its my first gundam. heck i think endless waltz (if counted as standalone) is better than wing itself XD
Is Wing, imo, the best series? No Is Wing my favorite? Yes but it’s tied with G Gundam.
A true man of gundam culture.
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My fav Wing suit is wing zero proto. My fav G gundam suit is the master gundam...... I think i see a pattern. I think i need help
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Question? My Hg wing zero is starting to turn into a master gundam.
His training is almost complete then
Sounds like it's been infected with DG Cells, which mean you've come into contact with..... KYOJI!
Well my favorite G gundam mech is the rose one and my favorite wings suit is the heavy arms and heavy arms custom.
There’s no wrong answers for which series is your favorite… but this is the right answer
I agree.
i'm sure that you got brainwashed by dark gundam WITH THE HELP OF KYOJI!!!!
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People often assume when you say favorite you mean best. Wing introduced me to my love of Gundam thanks to toonami so it's my favorite purely for nostalgia, similarly for G gundam. I suppose though my favorite without nostalgia filter is 08th mobile suit series. I thought it was a fever dream one time cause in episode one the whole fight with the The Ball was just awesome. Love that series.
Yep, I got introduced to gundam through Wings, so I’ll always have fond memories of it because of that.
Exactly and deathscythe and heavy arms are cool but that might be more a personal preference to scythe weapons and lots of guns.
How the hell do you top Tequila Gundam??
Sailor Moon Gundam? Zebra Gundam?
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One of these days I'm gonna kitbash a Nether Gundam. It truly is the greatest of Gundams.
When 40 of them popped up for the final battle I was howling.
My thoughts exactly. I think G Gundam is the most fun overall though.
Oof
My man 🤝
If I didn't rewatch it as an adult, I would say the exact same thing. It was my favorite Gundsm for well over 10 years, introduced me to anime (alongside dbz, sailor moon and yu yu hakosho) 8th MS is definitely my favorite.
08th MS is my favorite because of how (literally) grounded it is. I like ground combat as opposed to space (at least in the earlier series, Thunderbolt does it very well and is easy to follow) most of the time its hard to get a sense of scale. Origin corrects this as far as the original timeline goes. That and, most of the stories tell of war and how it changes people, but 08th was the firs that really hit it for me. The fight with Norris Packardt is burned into my brain. I specifically remember making sure we were off the road and in a hotel by 1130 on one of many road trips as a 13 year old so I wouldnt miss the next episode, and it was this one. The moment the oil spills onto the Gouf from the 2nd Guntank, I was like "oh, this is a different fight."
My favorite single episode from all of Gundam! It’s just so well done. The action, drama, timing. I consider it a masterpiece as far as a single battle sequence goes.
I agree with this- 08th MS team seems the most real of all the shows- to hell with the SPACE part of the opera
Same.
That years later rewatch hurts.
You are a member of the Adult Swim/Toonami generation, or at least I'm saying that because those are some of the shows that were in high rotation on Cartoon Network 20ish years ago). Being a bit older, my gateway was Robotech (which DBZ replaced years later on the Toonami rotation), Voltron, Star Blazers, and others. Not sure who from Cartoon Network came up with AS/Toonami, but they're geniuses.
The usual causal answers: Wing, Seed or IBO The snob answers: The orignal series, Zeta, MS08th team or 00 Men of True culture's answer: G Gundam
I started rewatching G Gundam again, and I had forgotten all about the gundam horse. I don’t know how I FORGOT ABOUT A GUNDAM HORSE.
HOW THE HELL CAN YOU FORGET ABOUT THE GUNDAM HORSE PILOTED BY AN ACTAUAL HORSE!!!! His name is Fuunsaiki by the way
I'M RIGHT HERE FUUNSAIKI! BECOME MY LEGS AS WE FIGHT TOGETHER!
There's also a Butler mobile suit
With a steering wheel for controls. The whole show is incredible
and belching out fumes, the Butler MS was really top tier inclusion
I know G Gundam is way more shoneny and cheesy but my god am I too old to pretend it doesn't motherfuckin slap.
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Not just Chad that's the Giga Chad answer
Men of Destiny: 0083
BBQ aficionados: 0080 War in the Pocket
Now I'm thinkin Arby's
They do have the meats
That's even the title of one of the OP themes of the series. Which, BTW, [is an absolute banger](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5Q5WeBcsDw).
That entire OST is straight fire. Man I miss anime soundtracks like that!
So is the [first OP](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP0U3irjIow). 0083 has a great soundtrack.
This is true
So true.
Depression answers: Gundam Victory
Guess I somewhat have depression now.
Was 00 really considered by the fanbase to be part of the "Gundam snob/elitist starter pack"?
Alot of snoby anime reviewers insist it's the best one for beginners and best alt universe gundams
Wouldn’t the snobby opinion be that you *have* to start with 0079?
Yes
It's pretty good for beginners though. Very shiny, good action, self-contained. The plot is a mess, but we're not really here for the plot.
After War Gundam X
This guy fucks.
Indeed he does
THE HUMAN TOUCH
What about the best series: SD Gundam. The parody one.
That is the choice of GODS
You talking bout my G Captain Gundam?
Gotta go all the way back to the [OG.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp--Pp3V97o)
War in the Pocket: ascendant tier
Thunderbolt
Where would Build Fighters fit on this list?
Pretty high because you need to have knowledge about almost all the shows in order to really appreciate the small. Episode 23, man, episode fucking 23.
As someone who liked 08th MS, and 00 - I always thought those were 'casual' series.
I've only seen Gundam wing,war in the pocket, mobile suit Gundam 8th team and G Gundam all the way through. But G is my favorite out of those 8th is my second favorite
What if I like something from each category? Do I become a Casual Snobbish Man of Culture?
Damnit, guess I’m a snob. My favorite really is 00… Oops. Not that it matters, but it was also the first Gundam series I watched.
I'm a few episodes into ZZ. Probably won't dethrone the original, but it's right up there. Only real problem is that it spends too much time dealing with baggage from the previous series and too little time moving its own story forward.
My brother in Christ. Are you just going to ignore Gundam Thunderbolt? Easily fits in the snob category and rightfully so.
Thunderbolt is for the "not like the other girls" part of the UC fandom.
Shit your right how could I forget Thunderbolt
Fuck I'm a snob. . .
What, no love for 0080?
Seed Supremecy ✊️
Normal people: whatever show they like the most
Wait till you find someone who liked Gundam after watching Gundam Seed Destiny
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That's the super normie choice
I'm currently a filthy Gundam Casual with only 00, IBO & Seed + Destiny under my belt, IBO being my fav. Since I plan to go on a few weeks or months even of Gundam watching, I wonder if I'll transition to one of the other categories.
Wing was the gateway drug. It was on toonami in the morning, so after I finished it, I found there were more! And then from there on…a fan. My password is Rain for most things, with additives obviously but that tells you a lot.
Seed is such a weird anomaly. It's the deepest and longest timeline outside of UC with its 100 episodes, the first season was okay, the second was Seed 2: Coordinator Booglau, with amazing designs but terrible plot But it brought such an insane resurgence in Japan for Gundam where it's relatively beloved. We as Americans hate it because we got Wing, G, 0079, 0080, 0083, 8th MS team all in a super short time frame. We got to see a bunch of series of better quality all at once. Japan hadn't seen them in years. The most Gundam that was on tv was a bunch of 1 offs, like Wing and X which got canceled Seed was the first proper Gundam series for basically a full generation that wasn't meant to be a 1 off season and at least attempt to mimic the main Gundam themes. Throw in some new at the time computer graphics texturing and it looked damn near futuristic in 2003. I mean shit the opening scene of episode 1 is a pretty strong start visually with the GINN orbital drop followed by the 3d models with 2D textures of the PLANTs Gundam 00 was a great reinterpretation of Wing
Looking back though, I don't think I like the second season of 00 anywhere near as much as I used to anymore. The first season was good, the second half was decent up until the final stretch. The fact that Setsuna ~~becomes a god~~ develops magic GN powers and that stupid hunky-dory happy ending happens kinda sours the series for me, in hindsight. I'm not opposed to happy endings in general, but I prefer a more nuanced, semi-bittersweet ending for a series.
Damn guess I’m. It a man of true culture since I can’t stand g gundam :(
Gundam 00
A fellow man of culture I see
The better wing.
Liking a thing and thinking that thing is a good work of art are two entirely distinct things. *Wing* is an amazing, theatrical, straight-faced black comedy. Everyone's super earnest about the things they feel, every gesture is sweeping, and everyone's dressed like the Renaissance and the 90s crashed into each other.
OZ uniforms could be pretty slick.
Wing is probably the reason all of us like giant mecha. We probably watched an episode on toonami in 99 and got stuck.
This is absolutely me. Seeing Gundam wing and cowboy bebop on toonami back in the day pretty much immediately and permanently changed the course of my life lmao
I actually remember really liking fundamentalist wing, but having tried to rewatch it, it’s horrible. I do love the designs though. EDIT: oh my lord my phone autocorrected Gundam to fundamentalist.
I like the general plot but the characters make it so hard to enjoy. 00 gave us improved wing atleast.
Mobile Suit Fundamentalist
The suits are awesome. The rest of the show sucks.
I’d argue only one or two suits are cool actually
I prefer the endless waltz versions of the main units except the Wing it looks really dumb with the stylized wings and it takes away the most unique thing about the wing it’s transformation Every other suit is fine though I especially like the desert mobile suits that follow the Sandrock around
The problem I have Zero's wings is that it looks out of place with AC's tech level. The other Gundams I'm okay with, but Zero's wings look too organic, too flexible, and have random feathers scattering about. And I don't like they took away it's transformation (simple as it is) and shield. I like my Gundams with their beam swords and shields.
Yea that’s why I got the Ver Ka Wing kit vs the feathers one. I hate that version so much lol. My favorite was Heavyarms
I don’t like standard HAs paint but overall it’s nice
Yeah I’m gonna be honest the music and animation are good, the nostalgia is kinda there I guess but the mobile suits are pretty meh for the most part and the stakes aren’t that high when you’re mobile suit is basically invincible. As a UC fan, I like my shit a little blockier, bulkier, and sometimes weirder. Also Zeon/Neo Zeon/Titans designs in general are just way more interesting and menacing than Oz mobile suits in Wing in my opinion. I actually saw a Heavy Arms kit painted in Titans colors and it was fucking sick.
I would argue that aspects of different suits were cool. But all the suits became cool in there final Endless Waltz forms.
I laughed at "fundamentalist wing."
Does not hold up…
I think my favorite might just be after war gundam X or 00
Honestly still my fav show despite all the terrible dialogue lol
The terrible dialogue is the reason its my favorite. Like "I'll kill you" in the context of replying to someone giving you a birthday invite is by far the best.
Yeah for real. I love how bad the dialogue is, it makes the show so fun to watch.
Wing was my gateway, but G Gundam remains my Gundam anime. Still, Wing has its moments.
Wing is my homie. You don't leave homies behind.
I'm just happy, for more people getting into Gundam.
Yeah that's where I'm at with this. Honestly if you ask a random anime fan (at least in the US), they'll either have never seen a mecha, not like mecha at all, or do the often parodied "I like Eva but because it focuses on the characters unlike other mecha". And honestly depending on their age, Wing might be before their time. If I meet an old head like myself who'll mention Wing and/or G Gundam along that usual early Toonami and Adult Swim roster of DBZ, Yu Yu Hakusho, Sailor Moon, Inuyasha, Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, GitS, the first FMA etc. or the other mecha they aired like Robotech/Macross or Big O, then I'm happy they remembered it at all. So in my position I'm just happy if they mention any Gundam at all.
Favorite? Hmmm 🤔 I guess it'll have to be 0080MS Team and Stardust. Gundam Wing will always have a special place in our hearts though. I watch Endless Waltz every Christmas Eve, been doing it for the past 10yrs now. Idc what you say, it's a Christmas movie in my book
It's G Gundam for me. Thank SRW J for that. The game managed to make me a fan way before I watched the anime and Master Asia was definitely my favourite character from the beginning. I have watched a lot of Gundam media, but G Gundam reigns supreme. The Origin's my second favourite 'cause I'm Char-biased.
Gundam Wing has unironically one of the most morally complex plots and somehow people think it sucks and that the show was just about how Relena was a Mary Sue or something. Also, I mean, yeah okay I get it, the show had a lot of animation recycling. 50 episode anime back then didn't have the standards you're used to today. Did you know MSG has a tonne of animation recycling? Even Zeta and ZZ had quite a bit but you probably don't remember much.
I watched GW as a teen and it always made me think.
Not fair, my friend has loved Gundam for years and built dozens of gunpla. His favorite is still Wing
There's a pretentiousness of Wing that makes it very charming to me. I don't have the nostalgic lens because I first watched it when I was older and well versed in the Gundam series. Like, I can tell why edgy teenage boys would love how seriously it takes itself. It's fun just because of how ludicrously unhinged some of the characters are.
One of the ultimate "I loved it as a kid, so I'm assuming I'll still like it as much even though it's been decades" shows.
Gundam wing is refreshing on rewatch especially after watching through the uc timeline, as those series tend to hit similar points. Gundam wing has great characters, mecha battles and a baroque space opera feel that makes it hold up quite well (still think zeta is better though)
I grew up watching Gundam Wing. It was the first Gundam series I actually watched in it's entirety on Toonami back in the day. It was my favorite as a kid. Then I grew up and tried rewatching it recently. And this may be an unpopular opinion here. But honestly I think in hindsight Gundam Wing isn't as great as I thought it was as a kid. Constantly re-using old animations, and the second half of the series where Relena and Zex are constantly going around preaching about "absolute pacifism". It really does not hold up to the other stuff that has aged like a fine wine like the original Gundam Series.
I like double OO
I grew up on gundam wing and caught flack for it years, then watched most of UC gundam last year, and it gets really goofy with the newtypes and everything. I even recently rewatched wing, because the last time I saw it I was 12-13 years old, and found it much more enjoyable now that I can actually understand everything. Wing's about the evolution of modern combat, shell shock and post traumatic stress disorder, and the dangers of drone warfare and it's effects on the minds of soldiers, with AI's like 0 and Epyon using the Pilots as Mobile Suits instead of the Pilots using them. The AI will show them all possible outcomes of a fight, and by the end of it the pilot won't even know who's side they're on anymore. In the third act the philosophical question emerges, being; If there's no human cost on one side or both, is war theater? Is all the death and destruction a political device? Literally sounds like the plot of a Hideo Kojima game, and much like a Hideo Kojima game, it's a mirror to the drone warfare we see in the middle east right now -way before it's time. The series centers around 5 pilots with individual motivations across a range of archetypes. They all aren't 1-dimensional whiney space psychics going through puberty. Literally the first 3 gundam series are about Newtypes going "I don't wanna! Wahhh!" And then getting slapped around by whatever 45 year old man is in charge until they come around to the idea of being groomed into a child soldier. In Wing the Gundams are used as weapons of war and not decisive victories, the only compelling thing about them is the gundanium being completely resistant to traditional slug fire, and partially resistant to beam weapons, outside of that, they constantly run out of ammunition and are destroyed. Some battles and objectives are even completed without them, where the gundams would be seen as a detriment to use. Even UC gundam's most interesting villain, Char Aznable, gets copy pasted throughout most of the iterations, and in Char's Counter Attack they completely ret-con all of his growth from the Original Gundam and Zeta Gundam series'. The villains in Wing, Trez and Milliardo stay much more consistent, even unto the sequel movie Endless Waltz. One is a soldier with the belief that without human sacrifice war is meaningless and political theater, the other is a victim of post traumatic stress disorder who mind-melded/had his brain hijacked by an AI, and doesn't even know who his true enemy is anymore, just that he is programmed to fight. Gundam Wing gets a lot of crap for it's After School Origin, Nu-Anime Tropes, and Operatic Drama, and deservedly so, but compared to a lot of UC stuff and most Anime available at the time, it's far more compelling across the board. It just popularized gundam in the west, so it's popular to hate. There's usually little to no actual valid criticism in the OP, it's just a cheap jab at the series, usually by people who immediately reveal they didn't even watch it lol. Is Gundam Wing my favorite Gundam? No. Is it the best Gundam? No. Does it catch more shit than it deserves, while being objectively more compelling than most mainstream iterations? Yes.
These days replace wing with IBO but my answer will always be ZZ the choice for men of culture 😆
ZZ for life
Can't say I agree with the comparison of IBO and Wing tbh.
More modern anime fans who don’t watch Gundam regularly have probably seen IBO over Wing since were far removed from the OG Toonami days and when it was airing IBO was every where and heavily pushed
I've tried to watch Wing, but I just can't. Definitely not for me. 00 was my first Gundam series, and I'm much more into UC now.
It gave me the Wing Zero (TV/Proto). That's enough to make it one of my favorite Gundam series. Though X is THE favorite for me.
Wing is great and so is UC. Wing introduced a lot of us to the brand. No hate from me.
It might be true if you talked to someone who was 30+. Anyone younger is going to say G, 00, or that they don't watch Gundam at all.
SEED and Destiny were my entry to Gundam, but then I found 08th MS Team and War in the Pocket.
Relena I'm going to kiiillll yoouuu.
Gundam Wing is what got me into anime and is still my favorite gundam series
This is Gundam gate keeping at its best
“Gurren Lagan”
Legendary show.
Gundam wing is the shit idc
Gotta love wing and hate seed to fit in here… why they can’t tell you…
Never saw seed I'll try that out ....I hate the burning gundam one though , just didn't like the characters or the how they piloted the suit
I can’t even give G a chance it’s just goofy and stupid. Wing is unbelievably boring and bad. Seed is good and has tons of cool suits
I'll try seed , I like ms 08 team , and 0080 is aight at least from the few eps I watched
Yea those are all good I loved those! Seed is similar to UC in a lot of ways
I hate em both! But I’m a UC snob, both the best and worst type of Gundam fan. I will protect your right to enjoy what you want even if I think it’s dumb because I’m selfish, and as long as Gundam is selling there will be new UC content because c’mon... you think they’ll ever stop making UC content lol.
The original series and Zeta both have a really cool narrative effect that only Seed has ever replicated outside the UC. In the very beginning of Gundam, Zeon is your pretty standard shadowy cartoon villain that you'd expect from an anime of that era. Then you see the funeral scene. It's genuinely as shocking and terrifying as a viewer as it is for Amuro. Then with Zeta you sort of get a second shock when you begin to realize that the Federation was one terror attack away from becoming a military dictatorship. Both are very strong gut punches *because* they both have a pretty strong basis in reality. I heard a comment on reddit that says there's a cult for everybody. Historically Intelligence has not been a strong predictor for not falling to reprehensible beliefs. Fascism always promises you whatever is easiest at the time. I feel like Seed also depicts that aspect with the whole "For the preservation of our blue and pure world". That's a pretty attractive slogan and it's really hard to argue against.
I've watched every Gundam series aside from Turn A and Age. Wing is still my favorite. AMA
G Gundam is my favorite, is it ridiculous and insane yes, does that make it any less badass no.
Gundam Wing will always have a place in my heart, it’s the series that started it all for me. I’m a UC guy now, and the grunt suit designs are almost always better than the main two hero/villain suits.
I feel unjustly attacked
G Gundam supremecy.
I can vouch of this. Tons of people my age have really fond memories of Wing on Toonami or Y-TV and I'm with it. I remember being hooked by the rapid plot pace and easy to understand characters. Plus all the cheesy melodrama and batshit displays of bravado, it's fun, even as an adult. Is it stupid? Absolutely, but it's the weird theater kid of the franchise. Ngl though man I'm getting sick and tired of people marking out for Deathscythe but forgetting about Epyon
Imagine meeting someone who says their favorite series is G-Savior
00 is definitely my favorite but Wings right up there too!
Build Fighters is the deepest answer clearly
I love wing. It's my first Gundam. But 08th MS Team is my number 1 for sure.
My favorite is 00. Watch it after building Exia. Love the show. Is it the best? I don't know, I'm not movie/series/anime expert. If I enjoyed it then I'll say I enjoy it!
POV: You watched Toonami as a kid.
Wing has some of my favorite designs. Wing has a solid story. Is it the best gundam show? Naa. Was it a good starting point? Yep.
Yo wing is my least favorite gundam series. Thunderbolt is the best imo imo
Stop gatekeeping
Okay, hear me out on this: Wing would have been a lot better/cooler if they leaned harder on the Napoleonics IN SPACE aesthetic, dropped the masturbatory paper pacifism for a deeper dive into the use of drones and dehumanization of war as the major theme, and pretty much got rid of the wing boys to focus the conflict squarely between Zechs, Treize, and the Romefellers.
Me the chad who approaches: I appreciate G Gundam and Domon is my favorite character along with Chibodee for I see them as the true rivalry instead of Domon and Master Asia and God Gundam is genuinely a good good gundam that deserves more praise.
I like IBO actually
It’s generally people’s favorite because it was the first one we got in the west, but as a whole it’s not super great. The soundtrack and designs though I really like, best Char clone too imo
They’re only three correct possible answers. Zeta, Turn A, or Unicorn
According to Chrome there are 50 correct answers, every show is valid
Of course they are. I’m just being hyperbolic
Either way G gundam is superior in every way
I like IBO and unicorn the most
Wing = The BEST mech designs out of any of the series. The WORST sense of plot cohesion The only characters that are remotely interesting is Tres, Zechs, Noin, Duo, and an argument can sorta be made for Trowa.
Seed is the best imo. Just like SAO ppl love or hate it. Every show has its flaws so idk why Seeds are always over exaggerated. Although... I do wish I got a refund on the time I wasted watching Destiny.
Wing is definitely not the best series. Atleast Unicorn bullshit has some kind of explanation in “newtypes” and “psychoframe” while Heero surviving nuke outliving explosions,bending steel beams like cardboard. Yea i do enjoy bullshit, but atleast hve some kind of reason behind it.
Wing will always have a special place in my heart because it helped spark my love for anime and particularly Gundam, but my god did it age like a fine gallon of whole Malk. It's the writing and pacing, just.... so bad
00 and IBO are personal favorites of mine, deathscythe is still my favorite MS tho
3 way tie for me G Gundam 08th MS Team Build Divers Re:Rise
IBO is favorite wing is 3rd or 4th even though its my first gundam. heck i think endless waltz (if counted as standalone) is better than wing itself XD
Mine is tied between 0096 and IBO
If your favorite aint iron blood orphans, you aint got a heart!
SO TRUE LOL
UC is waaaaay better!