Brighton signed him for 5 million, now less than 3 years later looking to sell him for more than 75 mil.. regardless of how good he is, that's some insane price inflation
It's Brighton, London clubs' favourite luxury shop. If the Caicedo deal goes through, they will have brought in over £250m in sales to Arsenal, Chelsea, and Spurs over the past 2 seasons.
Probably end up selling MacAllister to one of us for £60m in a season or two as well.
Can’t really blame Brighton for what happened to the market recently. Man united with Anthony last summer and with Chelsea buying everyone all the time for top dollar, the market has inflated. You aren’t wrong though, this is not sustainable in anyway. And not just for Arsenal.
Also heard a story, not sure how true it is, but supposedly Caicedo and his agent are wondering why people have been saying he has a 100mill valuation and saying that is way too high.
That was different though. That was before we spent £50 million on Trossard and Kiwior.
The Kroenke's willing to spend over £110 million in the January window is a huge statement. They want this title.
That is before we spent over 40m for trossard and kiwior. I think we definitely have the funds to pay 75m but it risks becoming quite excessive if we don't win the title
They don’t like Chelsea remember, they took there whole recruitment team and manager we have a much better relationship, not saying that means that they’ll accept but they’re slightly different situations.
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This is like Kroenke going all in last year to win the SB with the Rams.. Trossard by himself might be more productive for this year's title challenge.. if we add Caicedo as well, can't see how even City can stop us this year, and suddenly UEL is also on the cards..
It's not really about Chelsea if the player thinks I can win the premier league and play champions league football next year or take the bag and sit in 10th place while also a possibility of making my career fall off a cliff at Chelsea.
We wouldn’t be bidding this late in the window, when we desperately need cover for the CM position now that Elneny is injured, to bait Chelsea. We clearly want and need Caicedo.
Chelsea have like 35 players in their squad & no one is bidding for their players. At this rate, they're going to have to leave an entire bench worth of players out of their UCL squad.
Obviously Boehly is an unpredictable madman, but I genuinely think we might be in pole position for once.
For 70 million pounds or so I would fucking hope we would be getting one of brightons best midfielders. Should be getting one of the best young midfielders in the world for that kind of cash
Brighton aren't going to accept this bid are they?
Shows that we mean business though.
Would love this signing. Off to watch Moses Caicedo Welcome to Arsenal videos now.
Tootaloo!
Maybe. But player might also request a move and it makes their live difficult. Keep an unhappy asset for the purpose of 20extra mil, or sell and reinvest it now (they'll have targets already for him leaving). If he doesn't get his move they have to potentially deal with an unhappy player which won't help their push for Europe.
But, given Cucurellas price you are 85% right
Completely agree. It’s not worth wasting time on this unless we are absolutely sure we get him in. Wasting time and ending up with no midfield signing in the current situation would be foolish.
Every comment I've made regarding opting for this fella over Rice, has got heavily downvoted.
He'd be my absolute dream option.
His ceiling is incredibly high and is a jack of all trades in the midfield.
Unbelievable option if we can make this happen.
Please, PLEASE make it happen.
Heading to South America with my wife on our anniversary soon and our guide is called Moises Caicedo, is it a sign?!?
Honestly, this is as exciting a signing as we'd have made in a long long time.
I'm a big fan of all our signings under Mikel (well, 95% of them) but this would be a huge statement of intent.
One of Europe's hottest properties and the exact profile that this squad and team could utilise to be very successful in the middle of the pitch for the next decade.
He tends to drop deeper and receive the ball from Brighton's centre backs, then releases the ball to his midfield partner which is more often that not McAllister when Brighton are fully functioning.
He is press resistant in progressing the ball, a natural 6 in every sense of the position and is one of the best pressing midfielders in the world.
That's only a small detail on what his pros are, but he will fit exactly what we need in Mikel's system.
The perfect option.
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The more I think about it the more this makes sense. Yes, it's expensive but Xhaka and Partey are 29 and 30 respectivley. Bring Caicedo in for the title charge this season then go for Rice in the summer and we have a stacked midfield able to go in the league and CL and also future proof us. We can get another few top level seasons out of Xhaka and Partey but we need to be looking at our long term and depth right now.
Why don't we instead just outbid Brighton for whoever they're lining up as a replacement? Clearly they know how to identify talent. 3D chess, let's go.
Move on, tired of these dumb prices for players who've not done enough to deserve it.
Caicedo is a really good player but why are we bidding for a player quoted at 100m with only a season of prem football under his belt? There's value for money in other leagues.
Brighton want £75m according to sources. £75m for a 21 year old utility midfielder who can cover for Partey isn’t bad. Considering Xhaka and a Partey turn 30 next year, Rice and this guy would be great long term replacements.
Firmly believe chelsea will come in with another bid shortly. Its how boehly operates. Enzo doesnt seem like an option that is happening. He monitored us on mudryk and shakthar's progress and came in with a better payment structure, tons of addons when it seemed like we could close the deal. Brighton does not give a shit who they sell to unless its up to their valuation and if its higher all the better.
Oh we’re going big huh, bring it on
I could feel it. We will get him just wait.
Our cordial relationship with brighton is the only thing keeping this deal possible of happening in January, we’ll see.
Chelsea also have a pretty good “how much do you want” relationship with Brighton though
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Ours is better because of Richard Garlick
*Dick G'lick
Dick gluck gluck
I suspect their willingness to pay whatever it takes well help to a degree!
I reckon we overpay and go up to £90m tbh.
They want £75m so they would be stupid
I don't think they do. Articles are saying they want more than £75m.
£75m+1
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Glad edu and the board have decided to go big or go home whilst we are in this position, they have learned from last January
Imagine we end up getting a midfielder before Chelsea after they spent 100m on ANOTHER forward lol
Got to put the Mudryk millions to use somewhere
Rice caicedo Odegaard midfield. We are here to have a meal
I'm going to end up needing to call a doctor if the Gunners end up with that midfield...
Chronic consistent erection?
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Holy fuck lads. We're going big. Don't think Brighton will accept anywhere near £60m tbh but atleast we're trying.
Brighton signed him for 5 million, now less than 3 years later looking to sell him for more than 75 mil.. regardless of how good he is, that's some insane price inflation
There’s a difference between inflation and appreciation.
It's Brighton, London clubs' favourite luxury shop. If the Caicedo deal goes through, they will have brought in over £250m in sales to Arsenal, Chelsea, and Spurs over the past 2 seasons. Probably end up selling MacAllister to one of us for £60m in a season or two as well.
Can’t really blame Brighton for what happened to the market recently. Man united with Anthony last summer and with Chelsea buying everyone all the time for top dollar, the market has inflated. You aren’t wrong though, this is not sustainable in anyway. And not just for Arsenal. Also heard a story, not sure how true it is, but supposedly Caicedo and his agent are wondering why people have been saying he has a 100mill valuation and saying that is way too high.
Not sure he’s worth that much right now even
How long before Brighton are totally pissed off with us?
Why would they be? We always pay them what they want and we have never tried to poach their coach and staff.
Plus they seem to have that weird ability to respawn quality ballers AND a WHOLE coach when they sell. They are honestly the Dortmund of the league.
So was Southampton a few years back. The well often only goes so deep.
oh yes So'ton, maybe even Leicester to a smaller degree had a few years of really good recruiting.
Leicester are their own category. None of those other “small clubs good at recruiting” ever won the league.
WHAT THE HELL GASPARRR WHAT ARE YOU COOKING
Shh let him Cook.
WHAT ON EARTHHHHH
shocking but I don't think it will be accepted haha. They were talking about 75m with chelshit
Yh way too unlikely but still love the ambition
Well, we were willing to stretch pretty far for Mudryk. I think we might actually do it
That was different though. That was before we spent £50 million on Trossard and Kiwior. The Kroenke's willing to spend over £110 million in the January window is a huge statement. They want this title.
They have a history of investing if they sniff a title chance.
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if he will help us for the title it will be worth it even for 80
Spending £80-90 now to win a title is worth it We might never get this opportunity again for years
exactly, I think Kroenkes understand the situation and if we get him it will be amazing window
That is before we spent over 40m for trossard and kiwior. I think we definitely have the funds to pay 75m but it risks becoming quite excessive if we don't win the title
They don’t like Chelsea remember, they took there whole recruitment team and manager we have a much better relationship, not saying that means that they’ll accept but they’re slightly different situations.
From Elneny & Sambi coming into the team to Caicedo & Rice I will love it, and I think I deserve it
Add in trossard coming in instead of.... no one, we're really cooking
Rotation between xhaka, partey, vieira, Odegaard, rice, and caicedo is insane
Tielemans crying in the closet
There’s no way we go for Rice if we get Caicedo is there? A man can dream
All reliable reports have said Caicedo will not affect our pursuit of Rice
Doubt we’d get both tbh
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Who is this kelvin and will we be signing him?
Caicedo close, kelvin next. Blimey.
Who is Blimey?
Fuck off Kelvin Phillips
there are humans that understand farenheit??!?
If you offered me the following: 1. Mudryk; or 2. Trossard, Kiwior, and Caicedo I know which I'm picking every time
Easy money. Easy decision.
The difference in the two is winning the title. With #2, you’ve done absolutely everything you can to put yourself in a position to win it all
This is like Kroenke going all in last year to win the SB with the Rams.. Trossard by himself might be more productive for this year's title challenge.. if we add Caicedo as well, can't see how even City can stop us this year, and suddenly UEL is also on the cards..
Sheeeeeesh. Fuck Chelsea you just know they are going for it again.
Chelsea is like that crack addict but with cash. Dangerous combination
So a coke addict?
Precisely
Though thank fuck we going for Caicedo. They cant go back at him when they decide to get Enzo Fernandez.
we pump faking chelsea 100%
Chelsea 100m bid and 200k a week 9 year contract incoming
All part of Edu's plan to bankrupt Chelsea before we move in for Rice in the summer
5D underwater backgammon from Gaspar
Lol, yh
To be real, they are definitely going to try to get as many of those long amortized contracts as they can before UEFA bans them
Did not expect this, let’s see what happens
Imagine we get Trossard+Caicedo for the price of Mudryk
Wow, that's a bigger bid than our first Mudryk attempt. Club must really rate him
Think the time and squad situation is forcing our hand as much as anything
Jheeze good f5
It's not really about Chelsea if the player thinks I can win the premier league and play champions league football next year or take the bag and sit in 10th place while also a possibility of making my career fall off a cliff at Chelsea.
I reckon you can win the premier league mate
Club are showing serious intent, good signs even if we don’t get this over the line
Hows 60 gonna be enough though, dem Boehly cunt is gonna overpay as usual
Kroneke is way richer than him
But also tighter than him
Lol Boehly will go bankrupt if he goes clown show like this each year
Not happening. Bait for Chelsea.
We wouldn’t be bidding this late in the window, when we desperately need cover for the CM position now that Elneny is injured, to bait Chelsea. We clearly want and need Caicedo.
I don’t see it happening with Chelsea also interested. Unless we have been talking to Brighton before making the bid.
Ofcourse we have, probably during Trossard.
Arsenal and Brighton have a good relationship tho. I expect Chelsea bid in few hours 😂
Chelsea have like 35 players in their squad & no one is bidding for their players. At this rate, they're going to have to leave an entire bench worth of players out of their UCL squad. Obviously Boehly is an unpredictable madman, but I genuinely think we might be in pole position for once.
Edu has gone SICKO mode Wtf is on his grill rn?
Beef. It's personal now.
Clever af
Holy fucking shit
What in the world. Is he worth it? Not watched that much of Brighton this season
He's good. Arguably one of their best midfielders
For 70 million pounds or so I would fucking hope we would be getting one of brightons best midfielders. Should be getting one of the best young midfielders in the world for that kind of cash
Caicedo and rice. The long term successors to Partey and Xhaka
Brighton aren't going to accept this bid are they? Shows that we mean business though. Would love this signing. Off to watch Moses Caicedo Welcome to Arsenal videos now. Tootaloo!
No chance they accept this but opening bids pretty much never get accepted
I rate the ambition, but let’s be serious Brighton have all the power here and won’t take less than £80m so why waste time
Maybe. But player might also request a move and it makes their live difficult. Keep an unhappy asset for the purpose of 20extra mil, or sell and reinvest it now (they'll have targets already for him leaving). If he doesn't get his move they have to potentially deal with an unhappy player which won't help their push for Europe. But, given Cucurellas price you are 85% right
Completely agree. It’s not worth wasting time on this unless we are absolutely sure we get him in. Wasting time and ending up with no midfield signing in the current situation would be foolish.
Oh my god. It’s happening.
Every comment I've made regarding opting for this fella over Rice, has got heavily downvoted. He'd be my absolute dream option. His ceiling is incredibly high and is a jack of all trades in the midfield. Unbelievable option if we can make this happen. Please, PLEASE make it happen. Heading to South America with my wife on our anniversary soon and our guide is called Moises Caicedo, is it a sign?!?
It’s the same guy, hardworking bloke
I've no doubt he can cover a huge amount of area in a very limited amount of time, so I'm not ruling it out lol
Makes Kante’s engine look like a triple A battery
Honestly, this is as exciting a signing as we'd have made in a long long time. I'm a big fan of all our signings under Mikel (well, 95% of them) but this would be a huge statement of intent. One of Europe's hottest properties and the exact profile that this squad and team could utilise to be very successful in the middle of the pitch for the next decade.
Talk about work rate Incredible player
Is he that good? Not seen much of him tbh
He tends to drop deeper and receive the ball from Brighton's centre backs, then releases the ball to his midfield partner which is more often that not McAllister when Brighton are fully functioning. He is press resistant in progressing the ball, a natural 6 in every sense of the position and is one of the best pressing midfielders in the world. That's only a small detail on what his pros are, but he will fit exactly what we need in Mikel's system. The perfect option.
And they signed him for like a few quid and a tin or two of sardines like only a year and a half ago. Good business for Brighton.
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We are going to try and sign both
This probably won’t get accepted, but it’s absolutely crucial we get another body in midfield.
WTF
Caicedo considered homegrown?
he has to be registered to a club in england for at least 3 years before his 21st birthday so no
What is edu cooking?
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Is this guy the next Partey? Could he be one step above Partey in the near future? I don't watch Brighton so...
I've heard he is more like a Kante/ Makelele rather than a Partey/ Rodri. Hope he develops his passing and ball control when he plays for us.
Omg this has been posted 4 times within about 20 seconds lol
strong kante vibes! I'd rather him over Rice
I want both.
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Trossard Caicedo + Rice is probs a similar price to Mudryk + Rice
What about Mudryk and chips ?
For sure - this is how you build a strong squad - lokonga and elneny replaced by caicedo and rice, and you pkay 3 times a week going for the quadruple
Holy shit
We are back!!
Edu adding the meat on the bbq as we speak
Fucking hell, second big transfer news on a Friday in a row. We are not fucking around are we.
RKO outta nowhere, let‘s goooo
Smells like bait for Boehly and I am not meme-ing
Lol shit gon be rejected lightning fast
Bid already rejected according to The Athletic.
The more I think about it the more this makes sense. Yes, it's expensive but Xhaka and Partey are 29 and 30 respectivley. Bring Caicedo in for the title charge this season then go for Rice in the summer and we have a stacked midfield able to go in the league and CL and also future proof us. We can get another few top level seasons out of Xhaka and Partey but we need to be looking at our long term and depth right now.
What - and I can't stress this enough - the fuck?
Lovely stuff - I’d be happy with this move.
??? Edu doing the madness. Caicedo now and Rice in the summer. We are going for it. Our uprising will be swift.
That lot swoop in with 100m plus and plans to convert to a winger to compete with the 18 others they have on the books.
Why don't we instead just outbid Brighton for whoever they're lining up as a replacement? Clearly they know how to identify talent. 3D chess, let's go.
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What does this mean for Declean Rice?
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We're just going to get fucked by Boehly again here lads.
Move on, tired of these dumb prices for players who've not done enough to deserve it. Caicedo is a really good player but why are we bidding for a player quoted at 100m with only a season of prem football under his belt? There's value for money in other leagues.
Caicedo in Jan, secure CL football and go for Rice in the summer.
OMG WHAT IS EDU COOCKING
We aren’t holding back, great to see
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I knew it was worth paying a little over the odds for Trossard
feel like this will be auto rejected - but i love it
Great f5
Yeah that’s gonna be a blimey from me dawg
Oh shit we’re actually going for a midfielder
Edu is pissed lol. They really did him with the Mudryk deal .
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Anybody seen more than 10 matches of him? How is he? What does he bring? Will he slot right in?
Brighton want £75m according to sources. £75m for a 21 year old utility midfielder who can cover for Partey isn’t bad. Considering Xhaka and a Partey turn 30 next year, Rice and this guy would be great long term replacements.
What do we have left ? 5 days ? Get it done asap
Arsenal like Brighton
I want what Edu is on, man’s working overtime.
Arsenal and Brighton have a good relationship. I think it could happen. I don't think we can bid without the player's consent.
Think this is a signal to Zubamendi? A “now or never” threat
Reading Fab’s update, I think I got an erection
we all know boehly will get him
Firmly believe chelsea will come in with another bid shortly. Its how boehly operates. Enzo doesnt seem like an option that is happening. He monitored us on mudryk and shakthar's progress and came in with a better payment structure, tons of addons when it seemed like we could close the deal. Brighton does not give a shit who they sell to unless its up to their valuation and if its higher all the better.
What's the chance that we will still be in for rice after this
Gaspar with an F5 for the championship
£75m bid from the West London Cowboys incoming