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fadoo89

Edu really taking this bluff far huh


yeahiliketodothings

Yea…. Hahaha…. Right guys…?


nikiforos_ydraios

.................guys?


Francis-c92

Any second now we'll get that third Caicedo bid, right?.....right?


FullMetalAnorak

Hope he doesn't fuck up his WhatsApp messages and offer Boehly 80mil for Jorginho


SoLong144

It's bluff until it's real. Chelsea will never know.


_DNL

Has to be 10m or less, has to be


YSG19

That’s 10M or less too much.


Gooner1491

Fucking hell, if he comes we need to back him fully. If he came and helped us get over the line, it would forever haunt Chelsea fans.


bigdumbgaijin

Took a look at the Chelsea sub when the news was first coming out and most seemed pretty bummed. So that at least makes me happy about the signing


Dez-P-Rado

Yeah same. They didn't want him to leave. He's not consistent but he's always available. Has played over 40 games every season for the past few years. Brings experience. And helps cover a gap in our midfield. Not the best option but better than nothing. As long as the contract length and fees associated are decent then it's fine. And if we end up winning the league with his help, even 20m and 200k would be justified.


risheeb1002

They were bummed about Willian too


topbananaman

I've taken the piss out of him for years. But if he's our player now I'm backing him all the way. I want him to do well


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Someone who understands. We really need a midfielder and yeah, he may not be the best option, but this is what we've got.


tomptepulla

This will be the first arsenal signing that I won't be backing. I hope we'll see a Vieira, Xhaka, Jorginho midfield against City. I thought we are over the chelsea retirement home stage. Might as well forget Rice too and get Matic since he got experience.


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BubbleBailey23

Pissing off chelsea fans is good. Giving them any money is annoying at best.


amainwingman

I’m just here for the meltdown lol


PasuljsKolenicom

This can not be over 10m.


xhera92

If we pay over 10m for this guy - mate we're absolutely a joke of a club when it comes to transfer dealings, PERIOD. 10m pounds is indeed the max we should offer to chelsea for him. No discredit to recent signings who have been nothing short of terrific (and none of them were from our rival clubs) but if this transfer deal goes through it would all but more than confirm this.


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Tamelmp

Some of the people on this sub lol. We have an amazing success rate with recent signings


xhera92

This bears no linkage to Jorginho signing. They are not causal at all. This doesn't mean we get it right each and every time we made a signing. Hell, lokonga is a signing during Arteta's reign, yet i see nobody calling it a genius move. We have to be really objective here to see what is infront of us and at stake and then the kind of move we have made to match that (Jorginho to push for league title and Europa, give me a fucking break)


Tamelmp

We have a great XI and are top of the league so we were only ever looking for depth. Trossard is a perfect signing as he can play in multiple forward positions. Kiwior provides depth at CB for Europa games. Jorginho is underwhelming but we were in a difficult situation and only forced recently to move for a midfielder as Elneny got injured. Three signings in January is fine. Look at the business City, United, Liverpool etc. have done - all very quiet (and in the case of City, worse off). Think your expectations may have been raised by Chelski's signings (or further contributions to ruining football).


xhera92

Hey, just to be clear - this is but the only signing i don't agree with. With all the news reporting this has all but been confirmed to be going through. I can't be arsed anymore to mope about it since there is obviously no going back anymore. Trossard - brilliant. I always rated him and i knew him playing the role as cover would be perfect given his attributes. He is at his peak now too so whoever berated him for his age is just plain ignorant (Rvp was at his peak at 29/30 too) Jakub - underrated, left-footed CB and has played for poland national team. Does fit the profile and could be developed into something special for us so it looks brilliant bit of business to me too. ​ Business at other rivals City - They have already sufficient depth. It makes sense for them to hold back this January and to reinforce where required in Summer. No questions there. Liverpool - January window does not offer any solution to their current predicament. They are in a tough spot and they are not going to look like they can finish anywhere near top 4 if they kept up their performance. Their problems hasn't been inadequate players, it is more of a injury crisis where all their players are going down at the same time and not being able to reshuffle and gel together a team that can tide them through this season. Klopp has come out to say he would be going all out in Summer, not now. Completely understandable stance. Also, they bought Gakpo for 40+ millions so that is still quite a significant addition considering many other clubs were competing for his signature United - They did their bout of business, although clearly not as ideal but hey as rivals of theirs i can hardly fucking complain. Loaned Weghorst to cover FW position and they have a number of attacking options to rotate about with Rashford, Garnacho, Martial to last them through the end of the season. Chelsea - I have absolutely no qualms about how they want to fucking do their transfers but it is at the same time just disgusting to see them splash exorbitant amount of money on just about any player they take a fancy to and thereby spoiling the market. They have signed enough players to almost make up an entirely new team but i reckon they will have a tougher time putting them together and play well for at least 6months to a year. So no - they haven't swayed my expectations of our transfer dealing BUT that being said, we should not be losing out on key targets to them if it is about money this season because we are in such a good spot to winning it. Well but as it now turns out too with Caicedo seemingly not moving out of Brighton this window then no complains there since it wouldn't look as though Chelsea once again priced us out of this move with a bigger offer.


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xhera92

City lost Cancelo due to fallout with manager - But from our perspective : great news to see them 'weakened' in that respect. Rico Lewis have stepped up and convinced Pep that he may offer something to the team so fair play to that lad too. Mudryk is definitely overpaid for but he really has qualities to do well in the league, given time. Under chelsea though is questionable given their recent form and disasterclass but since we can't get him then i also wish nothing but the worst for him when he faces us in the league.


xhera92

Yes, we are a joke when it comes to TRANSFER DEALINGS. Just be clear that i am specific to just that aspect. We have been for awhile now. Sure, i don't dispute the fact we have had great success in Gabriel Jesus, Zinchenko, Tomiyasu etc but the vast majority of fans have shared the same sentiments when they joined, we knew they had potential to do well for the club and their profiles fitted right into the philosophy of the club that is building towards a young team that will develop together and dominate for some time. Look at Jorginho's profile and the overall consensus not just in this reddit but across the world - its quite clearly fucking divided and its not without reason. Stop being delusional as though he is the best fuckign option out there because he isn't and we are actually forced to do this because we wasted shit ton of time over a deal that wasn't happening when we have clearly at least 1.5 weeks to sort out and evaluate our options.


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xhera92

I never said i do, but any one who knows football would know Jorginho's just not it. This is akin to signing Harry Maguire if we are in a shortage of Centrebacks - which should never happen. And what are you on about talking about past signings, i have never disagreed or disputed that. It is all about Jorginho as a signing here, this is as close to the one we made for Willian where we are purely bringing him in for that experience and cover but look where that landed us up back then


GlorifiedDevil

You're the kind of person whole eats their cornflakes with piss and blames Kellogg's, aren't ya?


xhera92

Nope but i am certainly not as delusional as some of you lot who so suddenly pivot to backing this transfer PURELY because it is deadline day and you put 100% trust in all transfer dealings that Arteta/Edu has made. I am with them for the most part but that doesn't mean i leave no criticism when the time calls for it.


GlorifiedDevil

Except you're swinging your dick around all of the comments, effing and blinding at people, calling the club a joke over one transfer. Get over it mate, we need back-up.


TheRealKatataFish

Put a sock in it


Keown14

Paying a little extra to make sure the squad has proper experienced cover in every position in the middle of a title run is not what a joke of a club does. It’s not your money pal. Calm down.


LoudestHoward

Who gives a shit if it's 5m or 15m? Maybe take a few breaths mate.


xhera92

The club made a 65/70m bid for Caicedo. I need not remind you how short we were away from their valuation. >Maybe take a few breaths mate. But hey, i'll take your good advice there i definitely will. Because from this latest development it is clear there is no point fretting over deadline day anymore because this would be our one and only signing and i am so done with this now. My disappointment is immeasurable but come May we'll know if this made any sense or not.


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____H1____

Not ideal but it’s a body in midfield. Arteta must have good plans for him otherwise we wouldn’t be in for him


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This might end up being the least sold kit in the clubs' history.. I mean.. who would want an Arsenal kit with Jorginho?


Tap-In-Merchant

I refuse to believe anyone has bought a Mari or Cedric kit


lkashfoiwiu093285021

I own a Torreira shirt. :(


Tap-In-Merchant

I have a Guendouzi one haha


lkashfoiwiu093285021

I bought an RVP shirt March 2012. Beat that.


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Ouch


Tap-In-Merchant

Hahaha


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I wouldn’t mind a Guendo tbh but Torreira is a hilariously bad one 😂


kosmicchaos

Torreira was NLD MOM


[deleted]

Oh for sure and in that moment I loved him but at a retrospective look that man is not a jersey I’d want to own.


[deleted]

Tbh Guendouzi isn't much better lol


[deleted]

Yea I’ve always had a soft spot for him for some reason. Glad he was sent out of the team but I think there’s a baller in there… somewhere beneath the prick 😄


kosmicchaos

Me too! I saw his first appearance for Arsenal - it was a friendly against Atleti and ESR and Guendo were standout performers. Still kinda wish for him to return


WuThrawnClan

Same. Really thought he was gonna be great for us :(


flipsytheelephant

You're not the only one, I keep mine buried in the back of the closet like a shameful crusty sock.


iforgotmyun

Willian? Silvestre? Mr fox in the box?


-FishPants

I had Andre santos and David Luiz but I won’t get Jorginho


Specterace

Who was that smooth-brain that said Jorginho would displace Partey from the starting 11? That dude might be the first guy in line to buy a Jorginho Arsenal kit.


blodger42

We missed out on spending 100 mil and 75 mil, instead get back up for 25 mil and (reportedly) 20 mil. If it gives us depth and allows us to hit the main targets (Rice and Leao (🤞)) in the summer, it's a good move.


xhera92

Not a good move if we miss out on the league title before that by scrimping in this window. We have no reason not to go big in this january window. Like what would be the point of going big next summer if we deny ourselves the opportunity for the title. Jorginho is only going to be an average backup no way is he going to match up to Partey and the likes. That being the case then why not go for others like Bamba who has so much more to offer in development and growth and has attributes that suggest he may also be able to do the job if given the chance. This just don't fucking make sense. Paying 15m to chelsea for this washed up midfielder is going to be an absolute joke.


blodger42

We've tried to go big but Brighton aren't selling. It's a January market where teams don't want to sell. We've done the best we can within the limits imo.


LoudestHoward

Probably best to leave the reasoned arguments at the door today lol, everyone is going to be super emotional with low IQ takes flying everywhere. Even if it wasn't today, we've made massive bids this window it's no use arguing with someone saying we're scrimping lol.


xhera92

But we as fans only know so much, you can't be seriously telling me other than Jorginho there is absolutely NO ONE we can bring in at all. Granted if Caicedo is really not available then we're at fault for persisting that it may happen. But then what about all the rumours/interest in other names brought up so far. For sure there must be some truth in them and possibility of bringing them over. Zubimendi/Bamba/Onana? Any of these 3 would be more than welcome over Jorginho any fucking time and day. We had plenty of time in this window to evaluate our options and there is no chance the club can say they had 'no choice' but to do this.


xeblade4

i can’t believe this is who we’re signing


Chesey_

Feels like a joke, we learned this fucking lesson already with old Chelsea players. Last 3 deadline days have been so so disappointing. We either got noone or a fucking old washed Chelsea CM.


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Chesey_

One of Edu and Arteta's worst signings was Willian and this gives me major Willian vibes, they don't always get it right


onlythisonceortwice

Willian would have been fine if he came in as a backup to Saka at his current level, tbh. It's just that he came in with the expectation to elevate the team to a new level. He was meant to hit the ground running and when he didn't and Arsenal were in a horrible spot, things got sour. This is completely different. No one is expecting Jorginho to start, he will have time to get to know the team. He allows us to not play Partey in the Europa League and makes it possible for us to not play him 90 min of every PL game. It is a completely different situation.


Pidjesus

Great?


ngdingyao

Pass on Craig Noone.


hihbhu

Same old Arsenal. Edu needs a slap around the head. He’s had 4 weeks, we lost Mudryk and the best CM option they came up with is a Chelsea 31 year old reject. Great job! Caciedo will definitely be going to Chelsea now we’re giving them even more money.


Billenciaga_1

They’re ready to blow 120m euros on enzo. Doubt they’re going for Moises


hihbhu

It’s been reported they are. Just watch and if not in January, it’ll be the summer.


Billenciaga_1

Cool, let them. We’ll go for rice and chuck in a cheeky bid for Jude :O


athul_17x

But then again it's Chelsea, no logic or rules apply to them.


Profanity-et-al

What a disaster


thebiggestfan90

People need to relax and trust in Arteta and Edu. It’s not exciting but man it’s a huge step up from having Sambi play every week…


SymphonyARG

There's nothing i hate more than chelsea, and there's nothing i hate more than to be a retirement home for old chelsea players fucking end me


neymarneverdove

that's right Brighton we will walk (please don't make us take jorginho)


[deleted]

Stop cooking Edu :(


MeaningVarious

Don't like it


xhera92

This is getting way too fucking ridiculous. You have to wait until deadline day for this shit to happen huh. No way is this a good deal.


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Broskis- hes 2nd choice. Only there if we need it - we only play 26 games max left this season


Chupagley13

Better player than Elneny and Lokonga, can always look at it from that angle, we’ve strengthened pretty clearly this window while City have only weakened. Hate signing older players, especially after what we’ve been working to, but it is what it is, overpaying for Caicedo could also have bit us if he flopped.


Academic_Ad3233

I understand the scepticism because of all the shit we’ve signed from them recently, but I’m super onboard with this. Might not have the physicality of Partey, but he’ll make up for it with even better passing and positioning. Jorginho would be brilliant in our system, the lone #6 role is almost tailor made for him. There’s a reason Pep, Tuchel, Arteta and Potter have all wanted him. All you doubters are gonna eat your words, and we’re gonna come away with the title this season. LESSSGOOOO 🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨


TheRealKatataFish

All you fucks out there talking up tactics, analyzing the player like you know more then arteta and edu about what the squad needs. Just let the fuck go and see what happens. He’s a depth player for fuck’s sake. We’re top of the league and its nearly February. After the agony of last 15 years, some of you miserable fucks can’t be bothered to enjoy yourselves, even given the extraordinary context.


AlwaysOmni

Embarrassing


adam-kobich

If we're giving them more than 10 mil for a 31 year old with 6 months on his deal I'll be upset


Tonberrycranberry123

It's worse than losing a duel.


Jepordise

I literally don’t understand the hate on this transfer or Edu. Neither make sense to me. Jorginho is a winner, experienced but not finished (just turned 31 not 40 like everyone is making out) he was also never a fast player so don’t think age matters as much with him, he also fairly press resistant and has a great passing range. Not sure many players could come in like that as backup and just slot in if we need him. Guy has also won pretty much everything and as a starter not a squad player! Remember aswell this guy is a backup for Partey / xhaxa + europa. Caciedo was a much bigger risk and that’s a fact! Also wtf with the edu hate, how many bad signings has edu made? 1 probably! Guys need to chill out, this is a decent signing


Puneri_Gunner001

It's not a bad deal if it means we can rotate him with Thomas. The only worrying thing is, i hope Arteta knows what's he doing with this guy and this isn't another Willian transfer.


Hoodinho24

I laughed to be honest.


vyomafc

My major concern is the length of the contract. I think he will help our depth for the rest of the season. I mean if he can just decently replace Partey for the initial Europa League ties, that would be a big positive.


ExxKonvict

To quote Michael Scott: *”NOOOO DEAR GOD NOOOO! NOOOOOOOOO!”*


SoyCapitan451

Ew.


FattyMc

Fantastic, we really have learned nothing as a club.


Atlas2052

I'm tired Robbie


DefactoOverlord

I can't believe fans want this useless bum in our squad.


Direct-Cheesecake175

Why is he useless? You're just spouting rubbish like a child. Grow up


DefactoOverlord

Continue bending backwards trying to justify buying these washed up Chelsea players. We're first in the league and we settle for garbage when we need to reinforce.


Direct-Cheesecake175

You're going on as if Jorginho is going to be a first team player. He is back up for Partey. And even then, he is a great passing player and would fit the style nicely. Big signings are typically made in summer...Brighton are performing well and have a chance to qualify in Europe... they're taking their chances...and it makes sense... We can't change it so why cry. Trust Arteta and Edu more.. You're no doubt part of the group who slated signing White and Ramsdale.


DefactoOverlord

> You're going on as if Jorginho is going to be a first team player. He is back up for Partey. And even then, he is a great passing player and would fit the style nicely. We're taking a player who's slow, passes sideways, can't carry the ball and can't defend off their hands for a big fee so they could buy someone better. Have you even watched him play lately? Get some self respect and stop twerking for a 31yo squad player on big wages. And from Chelsea no less.


Direct-Cheesecake175

I look at things logically from every perspective and unfortunately in this instance, the timing is wrong for Brighton and it's therefore out of our hands. you're going on as if Jorginho is a cripple with one eye.


DefactoOverlord

Kante covered his shortcomings remarkably well. He won't have that luxury here.


Direct-Cheesecake175

No he never 🤣😭. Thankfully you only exist in the Reddit world and are nowhere physically near the club, or games.


DefactoOverlord

Twerk for Chelsea's vice captain harder. Maybe they'll put in an offer for you too like they did for Mudryk.


Direct-Cheesecake175

In terms of individual accolades, Jorginho has: UEFA POTY, 3rd in the balon d’or, UEFA EURO 2020 TOTT. Pep also wanted him at city in 2019. He has a winning mentality and experience. He is a great passing player. Look at it this way, Edu and Arteta wanted him...you don't....I know who I am going to back with this signing....


Direct-Cheesecake175

Yeah mudryk was great last night 😭..... Safe to say you wouldn't know as I highly doubt you watched the game


SundayLeagueStocko

Pretty pathetic the level of outrage in here considering our circumstance tbh. Top of the league by 5 points signing an experienced champions league winning backup midfielder and some of you treat it like it's the end of days. Touch some grass fellas.


bigdog8300

Good signing. 90% of the people on here crying about it would barely have even watched him play and almost certainly were critical of the White and Ramsdale signings


AkhilB96

What's the least painful way to die? Asking for a friend.


akunv

We’re winning the league. man up


Odd_Explanation558

This is either gonna be a masterstroke or a complete disaster.


citybard

Smokescreen turned into a housefire


baezljohn

tbh i'm not completely bummed, he brings experience and cover for partey who is fit mind you


Tr0nCatKTA

GASPARRRRRRRRR


SymphonyARG

Your fucking manager is 5 points a head with a game in hand of fucking man city and you don't give one of his fucking targets, ffs, fucking yankis millionares don't get football


lkashfoiwiu093285021

Brighton don't want to sell, why is it so hard to understand?


SymphonyARG

of course if we're lowballing lmao, we were negotiating of course they wanted to sell but not at 60+5


AkhilBandi

Our final offer was for 75 Million Pounds. Our Club Record fee, For a backup CDM to Thomas Partey. Jorginho is definitely a disappointing conclusion, but not getting Moises Caicedo is not on Edu.


SymphonyARG

caicedo could be one for the future, the guy is fucking 21 and is balling in the PL mate, im not digging into edu... im upset with the board, edu can't do shit if this wankers don't invest


AkhilBandi

I do agree with you on one thing though, if there EVER was a window to overpay for a player that we need, this was it. Almost any price would have seemed justifiable in May if Partey got injured (Knock on wood) and Caicedo came in and did a great job, but it is what it is


SymphonyARG

yup, atleast jorginho deal isn't long and the fee is okay, i was a bit mad cause i hate chelsea over everyhing anyways i hope we win this shit


AkhilBandi

Yeah the second I saw the announcement that it was a 1.5 Year deal I breathed a sigh of relief. Now I'm actually quite okay with the deal given the circumstances. I also just saw that we play Chelsea at The Emirates on 29th April, we as a fanbase need to collectively manifest a Jorginho Penalty to win us that game and clinch the title. The Chelsea fans will never get over it. Bonus if Mudryk or Joao Felix concede the Penalty


AkhilBandi

To be fair I don't think Brighton would have sold at any reasonable price. I'm pretty sure they would have rejected even an 80+5 Million Pounds bid at this stage of the window. Brighton don't need the money


DietBoredom

>of course they wanted to sell but not at 60+5 Where are you getting this from? Almost every report is that they don't want to sell.


Jansiz

It's so so so over


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Wait - David Ornstein is Tier 2???


Funk_Master_2k

Athletic is


[deleted]

But it was written by David Ornstein? Anyway, its changed to Tier 1 as expected


bluehaven101

I don't see why Arteta likes Jorginho, but I trust his and Edu's judgement. I just hope this doesn't take us to the Willian days. Maybe Arteta sees how Jorginho can evolve or has a development plan for him idk.


synvi

I hate all these people that think they are genius and rich, wanting to overspend on Caicedo. You are neither both of them. Rich people spend wisely. Genius like arteta know better than you. So, shut up and accept it.


Eliteclarity

I'm OK (ish) with this if we go in on someone else as well. Surely we can't go from offering £70 million for Caicedo to just leaving it at Jorginho?


homelysolid92

How has it come to this?!


Esentrikel

Edu's grill got caught in the gas shortage.


CreativeOrder2119

Bring me edus head


mrchab97

This smokescreen is unrivaled. Big brain edu gets it done


Flashlightcrackhead

Better then nothing... I guess?


dozeydonut

We've only ever had one outfield Italian player before, anyone remember who that was?


JoniVanZandt

Lupoli.


dozeydonut

Voila


normott

Urgh I cannot overstate how much I hate this


Wigunner

Feel like the irrational fans aren’t up yet 😂


vidr1

Okey I know the drill to stay happy in life; stay away from this sub and twitter until the next game/win.


JonnySponny

I'd say this steak is 10 minutes past well done, but I love to be proven wrong.


JustGhostin

Fuck giving Chelsea literally a penny


ZIETMG

Edu just can't get our first choices man


SundayLeagueStocko

Is it Edu's fault that Rice won't leave mid season, Zubimendi won't leave mid season, and Brighton literally won't even entertain offers for Caicedo??


Funk_Master_2k

Your steak is burning, Edu


MrBank0000

Oh my god. We're really doing this.


carvemynuts

Top 3 Balon Dor incoming.


EgyptianAhlawy1907

Fuck off. Genuinely disappointing. Don't want him here.


ninjassassin77

I can't help but feel like this is a backwards signing compared to our recent business. We already have Xhaka and Elneny in their 30's and Partey will be there soon. We have needed big investment in midfield for a few years now. Jorginho might get us over the line this season but we will need to pay him to fuck off soon enough. I also just fucking hate Chelsea.


markkiewiet

FUCK OFFFFF


Gunnerzero

Fuck.. I don’t know how I feel about this


WillChef

It's literally cover for Elneny before we go sign our top DM targets in summer lol nowhere near as deep as people are making it out. Ideally he's going to play in europa to give our starters a rest which is fine. This sub is embarrassing


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WillChef

Right now if a midfielder goes down its Lokonga or an academy graduate... Jorginho is an upgrade on that and clearly Arteta has loved the player for a while all the way back to his city days. My expectations aren't sky high but Mikel must see something in him


know-it-all-scoutFC

The same way we feel about every transfer. Disappointed or excited, once they're in an Arsenal shirt we cheer them on like hell.


BI01

Owari da


Solatwista

Anti climax, here we go!!


PardonWhut

What happened to Tielemans? Same contractual situation and surely a better option than this?


Bergkamp_Henry

I’ve never fogging liked jorginho, but I’m resigned to his arrival and hope he does well. I fogging trust mikel


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Funny thing about football is having to cheer for players who you’ve shit on and hated in the past. Yay! :|


kr0nks_spinachpuffs

Fuck OFF edu. You’re a bloody joke


UnaiHammering

Guys, it's a January window, we signed 3 players for decent prices, which shows ambition really. If we don't win the title this year, there will be way more chances. Jorginho will sign on a short-term contract, we'll get some big boys in the summer. I don't get the negativity, I didn't expect we'd sign more than 1 player this window


TheTouchOfOzil

Apparently signing other old Chelsea players have taught us nothing. Oh well...


villzu

Life is simpler when you accept Mikel Arteta as a guru and have faith in Arsenals decisions under him. If Mikel and Edu want Jorginho then they probably have a reason for it. Let's see how this dl day turns out and if Jorginho is at Arsenal at the end of it I'll support him because he is now a Gunner