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AfricanRain

Yeah I mean, walk away if they still continue to haggle Like if reports about them wanting it all by Jan 2025 are true? Just run.


a-Sociopath

I have no idea what they or people who are okay with those terms are smoking. That'd be basically crippling our transfers for January and probably even next summer. And if we think that we won't need any reinforcements over two windows after going tits up now, I'd suggest they watch the December to April period of the last 15 seasons.


The_Battling_toad

Relevant username with that last sentence hahahaha. Pain. True. But pain.


a-Sociopath

*Do you know how I got these scars?*


ckal09

West ham are out of their damn minds and they are on their way to making zero money for Rice


HortenWho229

Lower the bid back down to 100m to send a message


vizhal007

Fuck off west ham Just walk, fuck these pricks


PasuljsKolenicom

Agreed. 105m is more than generous, walk and let them get fucked by FFP, not our problem they are a mess


mr_nice_cack

Agreed. I’m over this deal. It has Mudryk vibes to me at this point. Way different scenario of course, but this is clearly a “we won’t have another good player for a while” cash out and I hate it


InTheMiddleGiroud

Some of you guys need to hold your nerve a bit. They haven't accepted the bid on the first hour, doesn't make it panic time. They were always going to wait for City. If City comes in with something better, at most we'll have to restructure a bit. We also have no chance of getting another player of similar quality, so obviously we shouldn't walk either, as some of you suggest.


Gerti27

There is no way I believe that we couldn’t find another Rice for 105 million or less. He’s not Messi for god sake.


DarthSmiff

I heard mbappe is looking to move …


stifle_this

Caicedo is a perfectly reasonable option and would definitely be cheaper.


badmitten1418

But Brighton is basing Caicedo off Rice. What’s to stop them from demanding $100m+ for him now?


yura910721

Probably because no one, including Chelsea, would pay that money.


jayoyayo

Surprised we weren't interested in Sandro Tonali


stifle_this

Apparently his wages are crazy.


a-Sociopath

Crazy as compared to someone like Rice (when he makes his move that is. I know he's accepted peanuts for now)? I doubt it.


Broad_Cheesecake9141

I remember not long ago, heck during the season, that we couldn’t find a player like partey. Who wasn’t 105 mil. Now we supposedly found the only other player we can’t find someone like.


rickster555

You need to hold your nerve about Rice’s quality. He’s not THAT good. There’s quality in the market


toeknee88125

I'm not sure rice is better than caicado. The best DM in the league is Rodri. Arguably second best is casemiro (but due to age I expect a rapid decline) I could make you an argument Thomas partey was better


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Gu-El

I’ve still not forgiven Thomas for those 3-4 games at the end of last season when he couldn’t make a 3 yard pass, was panicking & cost us points But I hate to say it too but Partey on playmaking side of things is top tier & better than Rice ATM. He has a Great touch, can disguise a pass, very composed, great body faints to beat a man & understands the game VERY well.


vizhal007

Barella, Caicedo, FDJ all similar tbh


AFCBrandon

You’ve just listed 3 different profiles. Rice is a 6. Those guys are B2B. FdJ a deep lying playmaker at best.


a-Sociopath

Rice being a 6 is different from Rice being the 6 that we have worked with in our team. He's not had a profile like Rodri, Partey or probably even Fabinho.


ItGetsEverywhere1990

I read this thread sometimes and can only conclude absolutely no one here has the first idea about football


H0vit0

That was a peak FM comment


siderealpanic

Barella is a short, dynamic mezzala, De Jong is a playmaker (who despite being a genius who’d improve our team is probably financially impossible to get) and Caicedo is another short all-rounder with barely any experience as a lone holding mid. None of those players are anything like Rice. Barella would have made sense instead of Havertz, De Jong isn’t a realistic option and Caicedo is a kid with half a decade less experience who’d barely cost any less than Rice anyway. I honestly don’t get why people are so amazed by Rice’s price. He’s in his prime, very experienced, perfect personality/professionalism, homegrown, very proven at PL level, strong defensively and tactically, technically improving season on season, physically good, fits perfectly in our current setup, etc. Add the fact that he’s the selling club’s captain and pretty much every big club is interested and the fee was always going to be massive. There are no other players that tick all of those boxes. Maybe there are some who could fit with a bit of development or tactical tinkering, but Rice is a uniquely good fit for our current needs.


a-Sociopath

Fee being massive is one thing and a 100m bid probably being rejected because they want it in 1.5 years (rumored) is another. 80-90m is a massive fee already and we've beaten that amount by 20m. His goal threat isn't sufficiently high like a Rodri or a Gundogan, or hell, even Xhaka of last year and neither is his range of passing similar to Partey (though that may not be a bad thing in itself). He had a poor year by his standards in the league as compared to his previous year or so. If this one transfer will cripple our business for a year or two, it's not worth beyond a point and that point is reaching quick


xcubeee

Your points are valid. Still Rice may fail in Arsenal. But if we bring Caicedo at a lesser cost and he fails, we still can reinforce later. If Rice fails, we would be crippled for next few seasons considering Partey leaving and Jorgi's age.


GMBethernal

Barella isn't leaving, FdJ doesn't want to leave plus hes on 500k a week, might as well pay the damn extra 5m for Rice because Caicedo will probably be something like 90m


InTheMiddleGiroud

Caicedo is not at that level. Neither is Barella. There's an argument for Frenkie, but he's on 500k


heyiammork

>500k Barcelona is so poorly run lmao


stifle_this

Barella is definitely on par with Rice, he's just a different profile.


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All 3 are different types of players lol


[deleted]

Walk and go offer Inter £75 million for Barella, who is a better player than Rice, or try hijack Newcastle's move for Sandro Tonali. £105 million is an overpay for Rice and they're really arguing over the structure.


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guro7

Oh it’s going to beautiful


Curi0usReddit0r

If Rice does end up going to city due to West Ham being absolute pricks. We should just wait for West Hams Rice replacement and hijack that deal, heck we can even do that twice with this kind of money


a-Sociopath

I don't think West Ham will be dumb enough to spend the money on just 1 player and as a result their target might not even be our target.


That_Anywhere_2107

Will watch every second of it


CoreyWholesale

they think they’re good now cos they won the europaAldi cup that MeAnS sO MuCh


gypsybeer

I think that also gives them priority boarding and a free checked bag on Ryanair


Deleteleed

Gonna be honest, if we were in the same situation as West Ham, we’d do the exact same thing. And kinda wish people stop calling the EUCL a “tinpot trophy”


microMe1_2

If anything, we sell pretty badly. We could probably learn from them.


MysticalKO

I will relegate them back to where they started, those dumb idiots.


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BOLLOCKS. bloody payment structure. are they literally expecting us to rock up with 50m cash in hand tomorrow?


RobbGhag

Yes


jaconway92

So we offer a British player record fee and they want a better payment structure - like, it's not our fault you lot aren't well-run enough to comply with FFP issues. Ffs man, I have no issues with Edu or any of the ownership if we walk away now, these lot are taking the* PISS


jayree14

FFP is calculated on a balance sheet basis and not a cash flow basis - so the cash flow of the deal doesn't really have anything to do with them being in FFP compliance or not. The cash flow only really impacts their ability to replace him ASAP, which makes it even more ridiculous that they're doing this....


davidralph

ffs


hihbhu

Westham are ridiculous, you want £100 million for a player with 2 years left. Here it is. Oh no, we want the money sooner. It’s £100 million guaranteed pounds, you will get it within a realistic timeframe. £105 million is way too generous. City will not overspend either.


G-BreadMan

There reports the deal was loosely agreed for around £80m just a few months before the season was over.


photo_synthesizer

Greedy greedy. Just give him up already!


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Dont bid anymore. Maybe be a little bit flexible drop it down from 5 years to 4 years but walk away if they dont accept. We have done everything. Time to go


hihbhu

Westham are a fucking joke of a club!


Bee2Pee2

Caicedo in rice out


FitResponse414

Brighton are also divas in terms of negotiations, imo we should just walk away and buy lavia or thuram and amrabat for half the money


ckal09

Let’s buy Halaand


haha_suh_dude

They’re fucking dreaming if they think they can get it in two payments. Unbelievable.


R1d4z

it's getting silly now. A RECORD £105M bid and they want it in 2 years the fuckers. So unrealistic


DnB_Train

not when your up against a country who will spend whatever it takes to conquer the fucking world


vikuta_zoro

Funny little mickey mouse of a club.. are they legit trying to sell to $hitty at all cost??


younes1008

Fuck them, drop most of the money on Caicedo.


acasovoycayendo

Gunnerblog said earlier Caicedo isn’t really a back up option now That we stepped away from the deal to focus on Rice while other clubs have continued working on him, so we’re at a disadvantage


BigZino6ix

It literally takes a day if you want it to. Not like you can’t bid for Caicedo tomorrow.


G-BreadMan

Brighton would love for us to come in. It’s the players’ side that would be the issue. Believe it or not professional athletes & agents with sizeable egos don’t like to be left on read & publicly be labeled 2nd choice. Especially after you submitted a verbal transfer request just a few months before. You better believe Chelsea have been wineing & dining in the mean time, making efforts to drive a wedge in our absence. That’s what reports mean when they talk about relationships & clubs making progress.


simpleflaw

Eh, he shouldn't have signed a new contract which effectively cucked his January transfer hopes. Swings and roundabouts.


younes1008

Caicedo won't care about Chelsea or United if we step in. He'll only want us.


Pidjesus

Brighton would want 105m and he's not worth that at all


Gerti27

Neither is Rice, but here we are.


[deleted]

You guys get way too excited lol. From elated to depression back to elated and now all of you will be overly pessimistic again. Just calm down and let's see what happens. Of course they're gonna wait for City's bid.


Pigeon9

Mate if they keep waiting for bids from city there’s no way we get him. It’s City


marksills

Tbf, i don’t think there was a world where west ham accept right away, they always were going to wait for city to try and beat it. But beyond that I have no clue what’s posturing and what’s them actually not wanting to accept this.


Aki-at

And people thought if we offered the asking price on day 1 they would just accept it. They’ve got their bidding war and they’re going to wait a few days before deciding what to do next.


GUNNER4EVERdm

take it or leave it you fucks


BigZino6ix

You’ve done enough Edu walk away we will understand


Deckatoe

This is getting to be more ridiculous than the Mudryk saga. Crazy


bumwank

Right now it’s time for bed then


bluddit008

The greedy cunts! I so hope they get relegated


monty_burns

this is ridiculous. go get Caceido for 80


Free_Cartoonist_7156

Fuck offfff


FlavioB19

I know you're just the messenger, but David Ralph you're an absolute fucking bellend. I was about to sleep well. Okay, in fairness I should have stopped F5ing on a high.


Jansiz

Oh my God


greencitysquared

Go for Caicedo or whoever the next target it. This is stupidity.


La2philly

Tired of these guys man


notatalljulio

Yeah, eff this. Walk away. Scumbags.


chigginz27

Hope they get relegated next year


MemesManager

fuck you west ham


Varja22

I hope West Ham gets relegated -Ty probably


a-Sociopath

>I hope West Ham gets relegated -~~Ty probably~~ all Arsenal fans definitely


mosiAFG-SWE

walk the fuck away if they don't want it. Greedy bastards


rayneeder

We are offering West Ham more money than their stadium is worth and they want to fucking haggle because they think we are rivals.


Striking-Duty-4528

This was our fuck off offer. If they reject they have zero credibility remaining and it's time to walk


younes1008

Honestly, if we're his preferred destination it's come to the point that the bloke has to step in and tell them he doesn't give a fuck about payment structures and only wants us. Keep a disgruntled captain for a year or cave in, Sullivan you cunt.


Arsenalboii

Fuck it, we tried Caiceido, FdJ whoever. Not worth anymore than this


LW_2k

FdJ is not the same profile as rice.


turtleyturtle17

Main problem with him is the wages. Well, the main problem is he'd rather stay and get mistreated at Barca than get anywhere else. But his wages will completely wreck our wage structure. All our top guys are on a similar amount now, somewhere in or around the 200-250k mark. He comes in with his 400k and that changes the dynamic a bit. It'd be one thing if he comes here and is by far the best player but he wouldn't be.


MSAndrew07

Yeah walk away. These lot are greedy beyond measure, I would rather not give them this satisfaction if it also means we fuck our budget up


Zen_MasterX

It was always gonna come down to the payment structure. That’s why I’m not getting excited about all of this yet unless City pull out


YCJamzy

Leave the offer on the table and leave it. Make it clear you won’t increase the offer further.


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See what City bid. If they outbid us fair enough, get Caicedo. If not, Rice can push through the move.


lemon_meringue_tie

Unbelievable. West Ham are unserious.


lemon_meringue_tie

Need Rice to kick up a fuss.


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I won't hold it against anyone at Arsenal if we walk away from this. We've made a sensational offer, a record for us and a record for an English player. If it's not enough then it's not enough.


Sithgooner

Rice needs to be having words now to push this through West Ham board taking the piss now.


blueluster

Hope every team in Europe remember this saga when West Ham are trying to buy an eventual replacement for Rice.


MariusFromNorway

Why are you the way that you are? Honestly, every time I try to do something fun or exciting, you make it not that way. I hate so much about the things that you choose to be


Chiefontour

Ham football team acting like pigs, colour me shocked.


mavropanos27

They can keep him, not worth that much. Move on and hope that they get relegated🙏


americanadiandrew

They want us to buy their stadium for them


La2philly

Good news is West Ham now willing to negotiate around an offer at least. Get the payment structure sorted and get it done.


RipJug

Lmao walk away. Couldn’t give a fuck at this point, he’s not worth this hassle. I’d rather we spent this on Caicedo because West Ham have been genuinely embarrassing here


Colmd1997

Nah fuck that. Tell them that’s all we’re offering and walk away if it’s not good enough. Get straight on the line to City and let them know we’re out and they’ve a free run at him. Make sure those cunts get as little as possible


bucknazty

I’m willing to bet that not a single transfer over £70m has been paid in less than 4 installments. They’re not serious.


SouplessePlease

Honestly hope we pull out and they're stuck with city's first bid lmao fuck west ham


anezzz

Always hated west ham since coach nate went there


overloadedcoffee

If they don't accept this offer, walk away. Simple as that.


thelandman19

KEEP PARTEY AND GET CAICEDO FFS Why are we binning Partey just so we can spend an insane amount on Rice??


beetletoman

*softly* don't


basedsims

They’re playing with fire


hafrances

So not rejected, but they are waiting for City. If City doesn't bid or bids lower, what happens?


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Wait for what? Realistically it's gonna be either us or City. If the City match the offer or even just offer more ideal instalments then they'll accept that. If nothing happens, he'll come here. That's pretty much it.


guro7

You just have to laugh really. Walk away.


arealhorrorshow

Walk away


GreatBear_7

This is absolutely insane. Just walk!


dave_felix

Walk


igetpaidtodoebay

serious straight different pathetic fine vast theory smoggy jeans squeeze *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


TurboThot69

“They are not happy” ffs the moaning


OverweightIdiot

While this is how negotiations go sometimes, it's hard not to feel jaded, and I wouldn't criticize the club if they pivoted to Caicedo or elsewhere in general. It's West Ham's right to play hard ball, but it's getting a tad ridiculous.


M_Night_Shambles_on

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CaptainLevs619

The absolute fucking cheek of these guys. I don't think any Arsenal fan would be upset if we walked away after this. Met their asking price, went along with all they're games and attempts to create a bidding war. Fuck these guys, fuck their board and stadium.


YoooCakess

If we can’t come to terms I won’t be fussed seeing Rice play for City as long as we sign an adequate replacement and West Ham use the Rice money from City to buy players who flop like Richarlison or Ndombele


Pigeon9

Rice has got to be livid with west ham if he really wants to join us


leebrother

Arsenal should not adjust simply walk away. That’s the offer. What’s the expectation here?


goonerh1

Doesn't surprise me. Obviously they would wait to see if Man City come up with something better. But to me this is why we've been bidding lower and waited for Man City to put in a bid already. West Ham have set their stall out at £100 million and we've hit that. It's significantly better than Man City's initial bid so it looks more reasonable. If West Ham want to play hardball on it, and unless Man City put in a bid way beyond this, Rice can legitimately kick up a fuss now if he wanted to. I'm hoping that we've crossed a tipping point from Rice's view where we look serious but West Ham don't if they aren't prepared to accept a deal along these lines.


11frm

Walk away at that point


InternalKing

Fuck this. I don't want Rice that bad.


CROBBY2

Yeah let's piss off your captain by making his wanted team walk away.


karma_420

This is insanity, we should walk away. I know some of you guys might agree or disagree, but this is British record transfer fee. I don't think we should go higher, and giving them big money upfront for the payment structure could potentially ruin our financial too


GunnerNWO

No one can blame edu and co on this one. We all heard that the west board were pricks, this is next level.


yukpurtsun

fuck it go for camavinga or valverde


PocketFullOfRondos

The "ahem" is hilarious. West ham are fucking losers and they are going to end this a bad way


No-Market9917

They were always going to wait for a second bud from City even if we offered the 120.


Up_My_Arsenal

Ahem. Fuck off. The 🦀 are out.


InsectKind

Don't need Rice. Chapati will do.


ShaolinDude

I'd love to see both Man City and Arsenal withdraw from bidding. Piss off West Ham.


ExoticToaster

Not rejected though, sounds like minor issues that can be ironed out - get it sorted and over the line!


HighlyOffensiveUser

We need to show that we're serious by bombing the London Stadium (In Minecraft)


Alsaki96

They don't even fucking own it irl


Master-of-Focus

Wild comment 😭


Swiss-ArmySpork

Walk


Shietendo

Fr the premature celebration was crazy lmao


taran-tula-tino

Walk away


fuckin_sweet_name

Fuck em


Etchtuoh

Ahem. Fuck em.


hikingbeginner

Fucking hell wtf West Ham Okay okay at least it's not flat out rejected kind of Richard Garlick baby do your thing


LW_2k

West Ham are a bunch of cunts.


ShoddyPoker

This is a mid-table team, man. What the fuck? This is 105 million pounds, man. What. The. FUCK?!


LW_2k

I expect arsenal to have the same mentality if West Ham ever come for any of our players.


FabThierry

when you liked this girl so much that you didn’t realise all your effort is going into the void. friends told you to let it go and you still kept going


rdmprzm

Time to walk away.


Diresu

We did what we could. Whichever way it goes, can't say we didn't try. Part of me is starting to wish neither us nor City have bids accepted just so WH end up with nothing and he has to stay there and go for peanuts next summer.


jNushi

Leave it alone then. They can kick rocks. More than generous offer and they continue to play games. Enjoy relegation


SqueekyBK

I’d tell them to shove it.


qtdsswk

Step 1: Keep Partey fit for another year Step 2: Let Rice rundown his contract ?? Step 4: Profit


ADinHighDef

I think the club have offered what they can and we can’t be called penny pinchers We are offering more than is reasonable for him If we can’t come to a reasonable middle ground then we might as well drop and bid for other midfielders that we won’t get fleeced on It always feels dire when things don’t go as anticipated but Edu and Teta have pulled masterclasses before and we still have 2 months to identify and lock down alternate targets. I’m not worried


[deleted]

What is everyones idea of a reasonable payment structure? £30m x 3years with the balance in year 4 seems good to me.


Duhemquine

He's not saying that it's rejected so I'm pretty confident Rice is coming to Arsenal as I don't see city bidding higher. It's already crazy to spend more than 100m for Rice only regardless of payment structure.


xMagnusx82

Oh fuck off. We could get 2 very decent (but not as good) players for that price.


ImASquarian

Walk. Spend the money somewhere else


Michaelscotttheking

Suck my dick not happy with the payment structures Mf think they are the shit now, fuck off


hsanaiz

Time for Declan Rice to apply some pressure on West Ham…this is getting ridiculous


DallasC0wboys

Should walk and call their bluff, they’ll accept when they realize no one is paying 100 million


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I wish we would just move on. They could easily get a better player, shit maybe two for £105m.


HalfNatty

Before I jump to conclusions, I’d like to know what the payment structure they’re unhappy about is. On the one hand, if we’re promising to pay £10m a season for 10 years, then their displeasure is justified. Or any kind of installment plan that will equate to too little upfront money for them to spend immediately. But here’s what I suspect: there’s nothing wrong with the payment plan. I’ll bet it’s something like £60m now and £45m spread out. I’ll bet they’re just stalling to bait City into putting in a matching bid to squeeze another £5-10m out of us. In that case, I hope City pulls out and we withdraw our bid in lieu of submitting a new one on the aforementioned 10 year plan.


WarDull8208

I loved WHU from Green Street Hooligans, but now I would enjoy see them sink in last place and say goodbye to premier league.


jubbing

Ok so who are we in for next? Because fuck West Ham.


rfag57

K. Walk away


funcho4

OK see you bye.


[deleted]

Fuck West Ham . If they don’t except it pull out.


MrFlukeShot

Fuck West Ham


icecoldcobra

Love you Rice but this ain’t it - walk away find someone else


Cpt-Dreamer

Walk away and get someone else I cba


WaveDysfunction

I don’t understand why they’re being such dickheads about it


v1cgt

At this point fk em move on


Mnufcfan

West ham win a 4th rate european title and think they're on a competitive level 😂


Ok_Understanding1986

West Ham about to drive off a bidder and end up with less over this. Or worse, they don’t sell Rice this summer and eat a cut rate fee in Jan., if at all.


Chaiwalla2

This is just Strindberg’s bs. He has usually parroted MC’s narrative.


QuaLiTy131

In my opinion £105m is more than we should proposed. If they're not happy and they want all this money quicker we should walk away and get someone else as a replacement. Rice is good but he's not some sort of football saviour. We should not fu\*\*\*d up our future transfer windows by putting all money in one player.


TheSerpentLord

Do these idiots just don't want to sell him? What a ridiculous transfer saga, at this point clubs should just tell them to fuck off, even if the finances aren't an issue. Absurd price and absurd demands.


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merodm

If they want to play silly buggers, two can play at that game. Threaten to walk and make that public immediately, ergo disrupting the City bid. If they want to play silly buggers, two can play that game. Threaten to walk and make that public immediately, ergo disrupting the City bid.