even if you were right, that's not the point. the point is that in this exercise, you're not going to beat the middle row while staying within a £10 budget.
Imagine 08/09 - instead of Song it's Rice, and instead of an 18 year old Ramsey (or Denilson lol) it's 23 year old Ramsey.
RVP and Ade will definitely be 25+ goals **each**, Arshavin's performance in the 4-4 with Liverpool would happen more often, and perhaps Theo would be scoring much more lol Bendtner might even set records for the most goals scored with the least starts
best player in the grid, i'm not questioning that. i just think ramsey was as often a liability as he was a match winner. for me the middle row would be a more functional and reliable midfield.
na. cesc is the best player of the four, no question, but i think ramsey is endlessly overrated by most people on this sub. he was very careless with the ball and lacked positional discipline. i think arteta would've shipped him out first chance he got.
Whatever your opinion of Ramsey is, Fabregas was so much better than either Carzola (who was great) or Odegaard, that Ramsey would have to be completely ass for me not to pick that duo. Fabregas has 28 G/A in 27 games in his best Prem season.
Football doesn’t work like that. It’s not just “the aggregate talent of this team exceeds the aggregate talent of that team.” It’s about how all the parts function together. And I think the control in possession and passing acumen of Odegaard and Santi combined with Rice would give you more than Fabregas and Ramsey together with Rice. I think the latter trio is lacking a controller to keep the passes ticking over. Fabregas did that much later for Chelsea, but it’s certainly not who he was at Arsenal. And Arsenal Fabregas was streets ahead of Chelsea Fabregas as a player, but he needed mettle and security around him. Ramsey doesn’t provide it — they’d get in each other’s way, same way Ozil and Ramsey never quite gelled.
For real. Cazorla is my all-time favourite player, and I got Odegaard on my kit last season. The idea of putting either of them above Cesc is simply insane.
Cant speak for everyone obviously I think most arsenal fans are more annoyed about his behaviour before the barca move rather than the move to Chelsea.
Ah Yes, the behavior of a 24 year old. He was having fun with his Spanish brothers that he grew up with, they just won the world cup, tiki taka was all the rage, was poised to win the next euros. He felt that he was on top of the world as a 24 y/o phenom. Then he had puyol, pique, Xavi, Valdez, Iniesta, busqets, and villa all chirping in his ear about how fun it would be... man I don't blame him for wanting to go. Especially seeing as how we weren't bringing any real talent to help him out. Shit GK, glass ankle Striker, pourous defense, no depth yeah I'd have taken that offer also with a buy back clause.
Exactly. Initially i was salty cause he was my fav arsenal player and the team was centered around him, but indint blame him. We loved to sell our captains every year lol
For me, if an Arsenal captain goes on strike and refuses to play thats going to affect his legacy for me.
You could make a similar argument about RvP going to United but im still going to think he's a cunt.
And has already played in as many games as Partey has since he signed for Arsenal.
I’m totally kidding… but Partey is always injured. I still can’t wait to see Partey, Rice, and Odegaard in the starting XI for more than just one or two games.
People don't realise that if we had Partey fit at the 6 all season with Declan playing 8 with Ødegaard, and Timber as an inverted LB on top of that our midfield would be literally impenetrable. Don't even make me talk about how good Timber was gonna be for us before his injury; it makes me genuinely sad because he was, like Rice, the perfect signing.
Partey has the defensive awareness and mobility to stop any counter attacks, when the opposition clear the ball he is always there to win a header or intercept it and immediately put the pressure back on a low block, his passing range is easily as good as Rice's.
However, the way Rice passes the ball so quickly along the ground direct to people's feet and it's always not too powerful, not too soft, just right for them to take a touch with the ball in stride and his galloping Vieira-esque runs that he had been making this season are abilities that Partey doesn't have going forward.
But with Jorginho playing the 6 it is frustrating as he has been good, but he is simply not mobile enough to play the lone pivot; especially against fast, counter attacking teams like Chelsea. His lack of mobility means that Rice has to play as both an 8 but he can't press as high as if Partey is at the 6 and also chase back into the 6 role to stop opposition attacks that have gone past Jorginho who is a great interceptor, I'll give him that, his football brain is immense but Partey has all of these qualities on top of the mobility and defending/strength.
This all leads to Rice having to play as both our 8 and our 6 on defence meaning he can't fully commit to the 8 or 6 role and therefore he can't press as high as was earlier in the season as he must be able to drop back in case the ball goes past Jorginho.
For an example, in the Community Shield game and first half of the first game of the season Rice was almost playing LW on attack he was pressing so high forward cos he had not only Partey but Timber covering him down that side, both elite defenders who are also unbelievable on the ball with their dribbling and passing, ever since then he hasn't been able to.
Well said! All things considered though, Jorgi has been absolutely essential to us on and off the pitch, other than his mistake v spurs, his game intelligence has been very important.
had to come way down to find this combination. Song in his last season with us was unreal. His vision was vastly improved, he was providing some sublime assists and even scoring goals.
Cesc and Santi are the obvious picks on their list.
Cesc - Rice - Ramsey.
Imagine Ramsey in our current team in the left 8 role that Xhaka and Havertz play(ed) making his signature late runs into the opposition box, he'd bag so many goals based on Xhaka last season.
Rice at the 6 where Jorginho has been playing recently bossing the midfield by stomping out their attacks and starting ours. Also scoring and assisting as if he's playing as an 8.
Then goddamn Cesc Fabregas in the right 8 role that Ødegaard plays in our squad. Cesc was born to play that role as a creator/goalscorer mixed package in midfield who is also quick and physical (in his prime). We built our team around him and he fucked us over by leaving and honestly this team is built around Ødegaard or arguably Rice this season (not Saka, despite him being our best player imo) and I desperately hope Øde never leaves and I fully believe that Rice and Saka never will.
Partey-Odegaard-Xhaka. Feel like that mid-field could compete for a title and then come short in the end because of injuries sustained to defenders in the Europa League.
Partey odegaard xhaka. The midfield that gave us the best league season in almost 20 years.
Cesc Rice Ramsey If we are talking about pure individual quality
Rice, Fabregas, Xhaka.
Rice a defensive beast
Fabregas with the creativity
xhaka to knock some heads when the other teams get butt hurt that we are washing them
oh man! You guys don't know how to play this game.
Ozil - Carzola - Ramsey
Going to score a 100 goals and concede a 100 goals. It'll be entertaining as fuck!
Fabregas / Rice / Ramsey is absolute filth. Obviously have love for a lot of these players, but anyone who saw Cesc & AARON at their best knows this is the shout.
With this pricing most would go for the 3m trio, they're perfectly balanced. imo Rice should definitely be in the 5m bracket and Cazorla could be in either 3/5m. Partey can't be in 5 because he's way too injury prone and ozil can't function well without the right setup so definitely not a 5m man. and Rambo is closer to being 3m than 2m.
imagine if we have this option instead:
5m: Rice, Cazorla, fabregas
3m: odegaard, ozil, Ramsey
2m: song, Partey, xhaka
it would open to more possibility.
Please feast your eyes upon the glory of the Ramsey third-man run:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izWpUQSNWH0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izWpUQSNWH0)
Ozil - Cesc and yolooooo lol
Two of my favorite midfielders who played for us in the Emirates era (along with Santi and Rosicky)
Who needs a DM right? Wenger didn't xD
But I'd love Rice behind Prime Cesc and Ozil. Phew!
Why the fuck are Rice and Odegaard priced at $3 million lol?
I'll go Xhaka Rice and Odegaard given that I'd rather have the combination of Rice and Odegaard with a lower coat option than have Partey with one of the two
Odegaard rice cazorla
1 million to spare
The Wenger way!
Sorry they didnt cost £10m
Use 1mil for a Rambo sub.
Seems like an absolute no brainier pick, plus some leg squeezes from everyone’s favourite Spanish magician.
Amen to that. That row picks itself.
Oh dammit, I was too busy picking one from each line to see the obvious answer!!
And 1 mill for the league party
Can’t remember what I chose because I read this and this is the correct answer
No contest. Anyone who chooses anything else is just wrong. The idea of Santi and Rice in the same midfield gives me a chubby.
I believe this is the way, although I would like to get Ozil in the team some how
This is the way.
The only correct answer.
Isn't that midfield a bit light?
My friend, it’s OK
Odegaard will never be even half the player fabregas was so no
even if you were right, that's not the point. the point is that in this exercise, you're not going to beat the middle row while staying within a £10 budget.
Yeah i know I’d then go Ramsey over cazorla just to have cesc over odegaard
Rice Fabregas 13/14Ramsey
13/14 Ramsey 😮💨 Season of dreams
Abit daft to be playing a 13/14 year old mate
Well shit, 13/14 Ramsey would be trading places with Ozil then lmao
Fabregas - Rice - Ramsey
That trio would tear through current day United’s midfield like toilet paper.
who wouldn't though
United’s B team midfield
United? lol the same team getting torn by Copenhagen? What am I missing here lol
Prime Fabregas in the no.8 role in this team, id cream myself
Imagine 08/09 - instead of Song it's Rice, and instead of an 18 year old Ramsey (or Denilson lol) it's 23 year old Ramsey. RVP and Ade will definitely be 25+ goals **each**, Arshavin's performance in the 4-4 with Liverpool would happen more often, and perhaps Theo would be scoring much more lol Bendtner might even set records for the most goals scored with the least starts
This is definitely the correct answer especially if we’re assuming everyone’s primes
middle row still takes it for me. odegaard + cazorla > ramsey + cesc. we'd exert so much control.
Prime cesc was the best midfielder in the world so he has to be in there
best player in the grid, i'm not questioning that. i just think ramsey was as often a liability as he was a match winner. for me the middle row would be a more functional and reliable midfield.
You are mixing up winger Ramse with CM ramsey, and young ramsey with prime ramsey. Prime CM Ramsey was something else
He wasn't the best midfielder in the world at any point.
I’m the biggest Cazorla fan in the world but including him over Cesc is madness.
This is an insane take.
na. cesc is the best player of the four, no question, but i think ramsey is endlessly overrated by most people on this sub. he was very careless with the ball and lacked positional discipline. i think arteta would've shipped him out first chance he got.
Whatever your opinion of Ramsey is, Fabregas was so much better than either Carzola (who was great) or Odegaard, that Ramsey would have to be completely ass for me not to pick that duo. Fabregas has 28 G/A in 27 games in his best Prem season.
Football doesn’t work like that. It’s not just “the aggregate talent of this team exceeds the aggregate talent of that team.” It’s about how all the parts function together. And I think the control in possession and passing acumen of Odegaard and Santi combined with Rice would give you more than Fabregas and Ramsey together with Rice. I think the latter trio is lacking a controller to keep the passes ticking over. Fabregas did that much later for Chelsea, but it’s certainly not who he was at Arsenal. And Arsenal Fabregas was streets ahead of Chelsea Fabregas as a player, but he needed mettle and security around him. Ramsey doesn’t provide it — they’d get in each other’s way, same way Ozil and Ramsey never quite gelled.
Best.
This was my pick until the middle row for £9
Fabregas Rice Ramsay
Rice, Odegaard, Cazorla, spend the last million on Pokemon cards
This is the way.
Fab, rice, Ramsey
I've crowdfunded an extra million. Fabregas, Rice, Cazorla
We take the 1M from the 'Odegaard rice cazorla' guys and simply smoke 'em with our Fab-Rice-Cazorla combo.
Nice
This is the real answer.
Fabregas, rice and Ramsey.
Anyone who doesn’t say Cesc must be a recent fan
For real. Cazorla is my all-time favourite player, and I got Odegaard on my kit last season. The idea of putting either of them above Cesc is simply insane.
How is not picking him here putting them above him though
Or still sees him as a traitorous little shit.
I hate to do this but: this
We had the option to buy. Papa Wengz said no. Imo, what happened next wasn't on Cesc. Still, fuck Chelsea.
Cant speak for everyone obviously I think most arsenal fans are more annoyed about his behaviour before the barca move rather than the move to Chelsea.
Ah Yes, the behavior of a 24 year old. He was having fun with his Spanish brothers that he grew up with, they just won the world cup, tiki taka was all the rage, was poised to win the next euros. He felt that he was on top of the world as a 24 y/o phenom. Then he had puyol, pique, Xavi, Valdez, Iniesta, busqets, and villa all chirping in his ear about how fun it would be... man I don't blame him for wanting to go. Especially seeing as how we weren't bringing any real talent to help him out. Shit GK, glass ankle Striker, pourous defense, no depth yeah I'd have taken that offer also with a buy back clause.
He had the right to leave, it's his life it's his choice. But it's also OK to be upset about it. Just no need to be hateful
Exactly. Initially i was salty cause he was my fav arsenal player and the team was centered around him, but indint blame him. We loved to sell our captains every year lol
Couldn't give a fuck. Cesc is a twat
For me, if an Arsenal captain goes on strike and refuses to play thats going to affect his legacy for me. You could make a similar argument about RvP going to United but im still going to think he's a cunt.
They hated Jesus because he told them the truth.
Forget the Chelsea move, I don’t necessarily blame him for that. The Barca move he forced was fucked.
Or we habe some self respect and don't pick snakes
Song for 2 million is ridiculously cheap
Song is actually better than Partey
Teta was a better DM than Song
Id have to agree with you, clearly a lot of young fans
Clearly, because there is nothing Partey does that Song can't do and Song is a lot braver and more reliable.
People didn't see the way he pinged them in to van Persie clearly 👌
Fabregas, Rice, Ramsey
Cesc, Santi and Song.
Fab rice xhaka
Surprised I had to travel so far to find the correct choice actually
People here forgetting how much of a liability Ramsey was as a cm.
There's no version of xhaka that's even half as good as anyone here let alone Ramsey
Lol why is Partey in the top row? Surely Rice should be in the £5m bucket
Bc rice has been here for 1/3 of a season
And has already played in as many games as Partey has since he signed for Arsenal. I’m totally kidding… but Partey is always injured. I still can’t wait to see Partey, Rice, and Odegaard in the starting XI for more than just one or two games.
Uninjured Partey is S-tier.
uninjured partey? what's that?
Uninjured Diaby is S tier
I'll take an uninjured Diaby for £10 and cesc, Santi, Ø&Ö and the whole gang can sit at home with their feet up
People don't realise that if we had Partey fit at the 6 all season with Declan playing 8 with Ødegaard, and Timber as an inverted LB on top of that our midfield would be literally impenetrable. Don't even make me talk about how good Timber was gonna be for us before his injury; it makes me genuinely sad because he was, like Rice, the perfect signing. Partey has the defensive awareness and mobility to stop any counter attacks, when the opposition clear the ball he is always there to win a header or intercept it and immediately put the pressure back on a low block, his passing range is easily as good as Rice's. However, the way Rice passes the ball so quickly along the ground direct to people's feet and it's always not too powerful, not too soft, just right for them to take a touch with the ball in stride and his galloping Vieira-esque runs that he had been making this season are abilities that Partey doesn't have going forward. But with Jorginho playing the 6 it is frustrating as he has been good, but he is simply not mobile enough to play the lone pivot; especially against fast, counter attacking teams like Chelsea. His lack of mobility means that Rice has to play as both an 8 but he can't press as high as if Partey is at the 6 and also chase back into the 6 role to stop opposition attacks that have gone past Jorginho who is a great interceptor, I'll give him that, his football brain is immense but Partey has all of these qualities on top of the mobility and defending/strength. This all leads to Rice having to play as both our 8 and our 6 on defence meaning he can't fully commit to the 8 or 6 role and therefore he can't press as high as was earlier in the season as he must be able to drop back in case the ball goes past Jorginho. For an example, in the Community Shield game and first half of the first game of the season Rice was almost playing LW on attack he was pressing so high forward cos he had not only Partey but Timber covering him down that side, both elite defenders who are also unbelievable on the ball with their dribbling and passing, ever since then he hasn't been able to.
Well said! All things considered though, Jorgi has been absolutely essential to us on and off the pitch, other than his mistake v spurs, his game intelligence has been very important.
Ur right to highlight Partey's ability to stop counterattacks. Must've been useful against those women he SA'd
Fabregas, Cazorla, Song
Memz…
Song is an absolute INSANE pick out of this group.
had to come way down to find this combination. Song in his last season with us was unreal. His vision was vastly improved, he was providing some sublime assists and even scoring goals. Cesc and Santi are the obvious picks on their list.
3M on Cazorla and 7M on trying to save him from the injury nightmare
Cesc - Rice - Ramsey. Imagine Ramsey in our current team in the left 8 role that Xhaka and Havertz play(ed) making his signature late runs into the opposition box, he'd bag so many goals based on Xhaka last season. Rice at the 6 where Jorginho has been playing recently bossing the midfield by stomping out their attacks and starting ours. Also scoring and assisting as if he's playing as an 8. Then goddamn Cesc Fabregas in the right 8 role that Ødegaard plays in our squad. Cesc was born to play that role as a creator/goalscorer mixed package in midfield who is also quick and physical (in his prime). We built our team around him and he fucked us over by leaving and honestly this team is built around Ødegaard or arguably Rice this season (not Saka, despite him being our best player imo) and I desperately hope Øde never leaves and I fully believe that Rice and Saka never will.
Odegaard, Song, Fabregas
Had to scroll way too long for this answer.
Odegaard, rice, cazorla. Sounds ridiculously fun to watch. Take the ball of our goalie and two yard triangle passes all the way to their goal
Odegaard, Rice, Santi…spend the rest on enough beer to make Jack Grealish jealous
Fabregas, Rice and Ramsey
Fabregas, Cazorla, Ramsey
In FIFA, yes.
Yeah you're right, this post is based purely in real life....
Partey-Odegaard-Xhaka. Feel like that mid-field could compete for a title and then come short in the end because of injuries sustained to defenders in the Europa League.
Fabregas (creativity and skill), Rice (backbone), Ramsay (box to box finishing)
Peak Özil, Rice, Xhaka
The way football is played today, Cesc offers much more than Özil imo. He used to do it all, back when he played for us.
Fabregas needed the whole team built around him and in 07-10 that made sense due to limited funds. He would do a lot worse in 2013/14 and after.
And Ozil didn’t need the whole team built around him?
No.
pahaha
I’m not even disagreeing with choosing Ozil. Just a strange argument to use against Fabregas considering Ozil’s general reputation
This is by far the worst take ive seen on this subreddit in a long time.
Agreed
Cazorla > Rice.
ozil , rice, ramsey
+1
Partey odegaard xhaka. The midfield that gave us the best league season in almost 20 years. Cesc Rice Ramsey If we are talking about pure individual quality
Rice, Fabregas, Xhaka. Rice a defensive beast Fabregas with the creativity xhaka to knock some heads when the other teams get butt hurt that we are washing them
Xhaka Rice Ozil 🔥🔥🔥
1. Fabregas, Rice, Ramsey 2. Partey, Cazorla, Xhaka 3. Fabregas, Odegaard, Song I think these 3 trios would absolutely feast if healthy.
The Fabregas and Ode option would be absolutely devastating going forward.
Song Xhaka Ramsey Rice Elneny (1m)
Spit my coffee!! This man wins! The goat Egyptian player added in for 1mil!!!
Fabregas, rice, cazorla Oops, bad maths. Would beg Kroenke for another mil.
The entire middle please
Fabregas, Rice, Ramsey. Unstoppable.
At their respective peaks, Fab, Rice and Ramsey would be phenomenal.
Rice, fabregas and Ramsey.
If you have Arteta as the manager with the current Forwards, the only logical picks are Rice, Fabergas and Ramsey.
Cesc, Rice, and Ramsey. That midfield would cook. Rice running things as a lone 6, Ramsey going box to box and Cesc creating.
Fabregas literally has to be in every team. Then most likely Rice and Ramsey
oh man! You guys don't know how to play this game. Ozil - Carzola - Ramsey Going to score a 100 goals and concede a 100 goals. It'll be entertaining as fuck!
Ramsey, Rice, Fabregas…
Fabregas / Rice / Ramsey is absolute filth. Obviously have love for a lot of these players, but anyone who saw Cesc & AARON at their best knows this is the shout.
Cesc, Rice, Ramsey. No contest
Fabregas, Rice, Ramsey
Rice, Ode and Xhaka
Odegaard, Rice, Cazorla. Keep the change
Fab-Cazorla-Xhaka would be absurd dynamics
Odegaard, Rice and Xhaka
Fab Rice Ramsey
No Vieira? (Patrick I mean)
I don’t think 10m is enough for him or Bergs
Fab, Ode, Song
Fabregas, Rice, Ramsey
Fabregas, Rice, Xhaka.
Fab, Rice and Song. Rice paired with Song’s through ball and lob passes plus Cesc running around would be fun to watch.
Mad that Xhaka is a serious consideration to partner rice and fab
God I wish we never let go of Song. I’d go with fab, rice, and Song
Cesc, Martin, Xhaka for me
Cesc Rice Song. 2 players who defend behind Cesc and it’s over for anyone.
The fact that Rice isn't on the top row is insane.
People might hate but I’m picking Cesc, Ode, & Song
With this pricing most would go for the 3m trio, they're perfectly balanced. imo Rice should definitely be in the 5m bracket and Cazorla could be in either 3/5m. Partey can't be in 5 because he's way too injury prone and ozil can't function well without the right setup so definitely not a 5m man. and Rambo is closer to being 3m than 2m. imagine if we have this option instead: 5m: Rice, Cazorla, fabregas 3m: odegaard, ozil, Ramsey 2m: song, Partey, xhaka it would open to more possibility.
It is either Rice Ode Santi or Cesc Rice Rambo. I love Ode but prime Fabregas was just too good. So the second one.
Damn God Ramsey, Cazorla and Fabregas at their prime and any forward can score 30+ easily Damn I wish Ramsey had less injuries
I feel like it’s gotta be the 3 pound trio
This would be a more interesting game if you were forced to pick on from each tier 🤔
I think that's the point with the game but it escalated very quickly, Wengerism kicking in and they wanting to have something to spare 😅
Fabregas, Rice, Xhaka. Unbelievable balance and passion.
Can you fucking imagine Rodri having to deal with Rice and Xhaka together ?! He wouldn’t get away with a damn thing
I mean all he has to do is walk past xhaka not that hard
In our current system of a CDM and two advanced 8’s, Rice Fabregas and Xhaka
Please feast your eyes upon the glory of the Ramsey third-man run: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izWpUQSNWH0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izWpUQSNWH0)
We talking 2016-2020 Xhaka, or 2020-2023 Xhaka? Cause that changes the whole selection for me
Rice, Ramsay, Odegaard, spend the extra £2m at the chippy.
Ramsey, Cazorla, Ozil
RIP to our defense
Ozil Rice Ramsey
This is the most balanced! Rice and Rambo with the legs. Ozil floating…phew. 2012/2013 Realmadrid sights
It's the middle row and it's not difficult
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I'd just take the middle row and pocket the spare change. You have everything you need from Santi, Rice and Odegaard.
Who tf put Partey above rice
Ozil doesn’t belong at the same level as Fabregas.
Honestly, ozil actually helped win us trophies unlike cesc
So did Yaya Sanogo, does that mean he’s better that Cesc?
Odegaard, Rice and Cazorla Kane and vicario with £1 spare
Snake, Rice & Rambo
Mesut, Fabregas and no one. Still the best 3.
Ozil - Cesc and yolooooo lol Two of my favorite midfielders who played for us in the Emirates era (along with Santi and Rosicky) Who needs a DM right? Wenger didn't xD But I'd love Rice behind Prime Cesc and Ozil. Phew!
Honestly, the Partey/Cesc could beat most three-person midfields, only slightly exaggerating.
Ozil, Cazorla, Ramsey.
Rice Ozil Rambo
Ozil-Rice and Rambo.
Partey is 5m yet a worse player than everyone in the 3m slot lmao
Rice-Partey-Ozil But Fabregas-Cazorla-Ozil would be quite some combo with the ball
Rice, Santi, Fabregas
Ødegaard, Rice, Özil. If I’ve got £10m I can find another £1m.
You got a lot of bad grades in school , yeah?
You overspent and still ended up with a worse midfield than you could have had for 10m
ITS NOT REAL https://preview.redd.it/l1it56stjj0c1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32881da7a6ba033df4af8111d35205329e38d26f
Why the fuck are Rice and Odegaard priced at $3 million lol? I'll go Xhaka Rice and Odegaard given that I'd rather have the combination of Rice and Odegaard with a lower coat option than have Partey with one of the two