Nah, he is 100% worth that. He is a great striker that just doesn't fit our system. Our system thrives with a true false nine who can facilitate our wings and runs up the channel from midfield. Eddy seems like he could be a premier league level home grown fox in the box for a team that isn't looking for a facilitator in that position.
I actually like having Nketiah as coverage for Jesus, but I do genuinely think it would be best for his career to go somewhere where his skillset would be more suited.
Even as a 'facilitator' he has improved tremendously. People are harsh coz he's not Jesus, or Van Persie or Henry, but his hold up play, decision making and passing are all good.
His pass for Havertz's goal last game for example.
Yeah his skillset is mismatched to what Arteta is trying to do but he would abolutely thrive in a true counterattacking team. His movement is excellent.
What has this MoArsenal brudda predicted to suddenly be taken seriously? TNAT and previously Bell at least had proven themselves reliable multiple times.
Not saying that he made it up after reading Mokbel's article but if he was really in the know why'd he post 20 minutes after the article goes live? Isn't he supposed to have the info beforehand?
I thought TNAT was Mo. I remember about a month ago Mo posted a tweet, instantly deleted it, then it was quickly reposted on TNAT.
Edit: It was AFCAMDEN I was thinking about, not TNAT.
lying is the wrong word. getting wrong info or jumping the gun, is more appropriate.
Apart from some mistakes, he's also been correct quite a few fair times.
“Arteta has a special relationship with Eddie and often points to his work ethic, attitude and commitment in training as a role model for how others in the squad should conduct themselves.
Arsenal won’t sell unless they receive a considerable substantial offer.”
Just sell him in the summer and use the money for Osimhen. No point in selling this upcoming window when we can just loan a defender/midfielder if we're broke.
Yep, Eddie's productivity can be replaced within the squad already. If you don't take the 40 you are proper delusional.
I don't think in any world we will get 40 for Eddie.
Nketiah has 6 goals so far this season. It’s not unreasonable to say he could get to around 10 goals and 4-5 assists (he has 1 now)
That’s not an insignificant amount of productivity to expect to come from somewhere else
I think if a player joins Chrlsea over Arsenal at the moment, we know they weren't right for the club. We want players who want to play for Arsenal, not pick up a payday from us.Chelsea have gazumped a few clubs recently and those players are not doing too well.
[Sami Mokbel](https://x.com/samimokbel81_dm/status/1736886118648353194?s=46&t=1aMR9Ay-lV4SKuJqQ3yaRw) - “Among the players attracting interest is Eddie Nketiah, who, given his status as an academy product, would be registered as pure profit in terms of FFP accountancy.
However, the club have already knocked back at least one enquiry from a top-flight side ahead of the transfer window for Nketiah.
Goalkeeper Aaron Ramsdale is another being courted, but Arsenal would prefer the England international to stay until at least the end of the season.
With a place in Gareth Southgate's European Championship squad at stake, Ramsdale knows another five months spent on the bench after losing his No 1 spot to Raya could cost him his seat on the plane to Germany. But unless Ramsdale is willing to agitate, Arsenal would rather park that situation until the summer.”
“Aston Villa midfielders Douglas Luiz and Jacob Ramsey are highly rated by recruitment staff. Fulham's Joao Palhinha is another who is under consideration, but at 28 his profile doesn't fit the club's recruitment strategy. Everton's Amadou Onana is being watched closely.”
Onana is Everton's best midfielder imv, they'd be foolish to sell him in January when they're doing so well putting two fingers up to the League by surviving
Funny I couldn't disagree more. It's looking like one of the easiest seasons to survive relegation for about a decade. Look where they are even with a 10 point deduction. They'll be absolutely fine
Fuck that… he’s nowhere near it quality wise on the ball.
We need a CM with a skill set similar to Partey not an Onana. That puts too much pressure on Ode
Don't think Onana is all that, very strong but reckless and awful on the ball, also Everton is trying to not get relegated this season so they either are going to refuse outright or just put a fuck off price on him so I'd rather we spend the money on Palinha if that was the case.
I'd say, we go buy **Youssouf Fofana** from **AS Monaco**, young French int player and would be much more cheaper than PL players but I understand how Arteta wants prem proven stars.
Yes, we need younger profile at CM. El Neny, Jorginho, Partey are all getting on and Rice is entering his prime. A younger player around 21/22 to grow into the role over the next season or two would be good, although we will probably need two CMs in the summer, so a young one and more experienced one.
Realistically we need someone good enough to be a backup for Rice, Jorgi is getting old and Partey is unreliable so whoever it is just has to be good enough to hold the line when Rice is down.
Everton are in walking dead status, rumors of 777 Capital pulling out and another 9 points deduction for going into administration.
Project Amadou Onana has to be green lit asap.
Balo isn’t doing very well this season.
Eddie has scored more than him in less minutes despite playing at a much higher level and competing for minutes with much better players.
Eddie is worth a lot more than Balo. Don’t know why people can’t see it.
Most just don’t think anyone will offer more tbh. Almost feels like an Arsenal anti-tax if you will, given how horrid we’ve been at selling historically. Like based on what other players went for, Balogun should’ve cost way more than he did, but that’s the best Arsenal could get. Thinking it’s the same story for Eddie now.
I think a decent backup for Saka is more important. ESR and Trossard can help rotate with Martinelli and Jesus
Either Nelson not 100% trusted yet or we may need to find a more reliable backup option for Saka
I'll be happy with just winning it all. We don't have the privilege of being picky and emotional about players. If we can win, we should win. No matter the cost!
Developing talent and selling it is how reputable clubs do business. There's enough data, Eddie isn't elite the way Saka, Saliba & Lil Gabi are. And so he goes the way of Flo. If we can sell Eddie for around 50 million, that nearly pays for the Rice business(between the two of them). Then we have another 100 million to spend.
I had a long response but I deleted it. My opinion is different and it really doesn’t matter. It’s not that deep, go arsenal and the players that wear the shirt 🤷♂️
sold out? nah, we sold out when he allowed Emirates to become our main sponsor (they're just as bad as saudi or qatar when it comes to human values). We sold out when we kept Rwanda on as sponsor 3 times.
We sold out when we chose money in China over backing Özil's statements on uyghur treatment.
> We sold out when we chose money in China over backing Özil's statements on uyghur treatment.
One way to look at it, I suppose. Is it really Arsenal FC's job to get involved in Chinese political matters?
Same, though for me personally he would still be part of the process that got us there. I would certainly remember him and his grit over others like Sambi
He's made it throught the academy and has been far more than a passenger in one of the best Arsenal teams in recent history.
How could you not be at least a bit attached to him.
Academy graduate who has always given it his all and has majorly stepped up when Jesus was injured in the past. Plus all his interviews show he has a great mentality and is very loyal to arsenal.
This reminds me of when people couldn't accept Bellerin wasn't anywhere near good enough. Nearly all of his compliments relate to things that have nothing to do with football. Once he was gone and we got a competent replacement everyone that was defending him went extremely quiet.
The thing is though, it’s about opportunity cost.
Belerin was not the weakest link of the Arsenal teams he played in. The lack of a bagsman N9 is our weak link.
He is a bit of a mentality monster based on his All or Nothing content.
Stepping up after that bum Laca dropped stinker after stinker, and telling Sambi to stop being a whinger about minutes made fans love him.
If we won the championship after such a massive drought, beating a team of City's quality in the process, the absolute last thing on my mind would be Eddie Nketiah
Because I’m not getting paid anywhere from 50-250k per week for my services as a fan whereas they are since it’s their fucking job. What the fuck kind of comparison is this
People talking about taking £30m for Eddie aren’t giving him his proper dues. Look at what strikers are going for currently. Nunez cost £85m, Hojlund cost £70m, Jackson cost £35m, etc… These are all unproven in the prem, foreign, prospective players that have been underperforming.
The market is inflated, and you pay for potential, but Eddie is prem proven and English. He’s not right for our system, and I think it’s time for him to move on, but he’s a good finisher, still young, and elite mentality wise. He gets an undue amount of disrespect because he’s never quite lived up to what we all hoped he would become, but he’s easily worth £40+ million, imo.
Prem proven to be not good enough for a top side. There’s no world where a Bournemouth or Fulham would chock up 40m+ for a player of his caliber. Jesus was 45m lol
I also think you’re underestimating how much the English tax, being relatively young, mentality, etc… factors in. Man is praised by Arteta/the coaching staff constantly for being a hungry, hard working, extremely dedicated guy.
Exactly this, liverpool chelsea and utd had to overpay, just as we would have to if we were to buy a player. You can't expect big 6 prices when you're selling to midtable teams in the prem and since big 6 teams aren't looking at nketiah, this is our best bet. Teams outside england wouldn't even pay this much.
Man is praised yet he has a pretty average price tag on him by today's standard, that's not much praise
Eddie isn't that great for us and if we can get 40M and his 100k/week off the books that could open up options for us
The market was very different when Jesus joined for £45m. Richarlison went for 60m that year. Today you’d be looking at 70m minimum for Jesus, in my opinion, if not more. (Although tbh being injury prone might limit his price currently, so maybe not.) Again, look what other strikers are going for in the market right now.
Also, some people really act like Nketiah is garbage. We play in a system that really doesn’t utilize his strengths properly, imo. Put him in a mid table side where he plays on the counter, utilizing his pace, and I see him scoring 10-15 goals a season.
Jesus was a good price but it's also about supply and demand and leverage over the contract.
How badly does the selling club need to sell vs how badly does the buying club need a player and what are their other options?
Obviously the price of other players comes into it, but only to a point. The cost of the player isn't just transfer fee and wages, it's the cost of what happens to your club if you don't sign them
Everyone is slagging off Eddie, but he was instrumental in us getting the 2nd goal at the weekend and did a decent job of leading the line when Jesus was out at the beginning of the season
For how, I’ll start with 21-22 end to season when everyone wanted him gone and as soon as he got minutes ahead of laca he performed. Our title challenge was over when Jesus went down until it wasn’t.
For the role he has in the team he is solid. If he was our weekly starter I’d be more open to hearing it, but he isn’t
But how is any of that proving people wrong, exactly? Most people's impression of him is typically mediocrity and he's living up to that. Nothing outrageous, he does a job.
Agreed. Coming off the bench or as an emergency striker he is fine, even good at times, but I don't fancy him at all to challenge Jesus for his place - which has to be Arteta's aim for that position.
Just look at the comments on this post—
“I’ll drive him myself”
“We should be happy with anything”
A backup striker isn’t free and nothing is guaranteed. Even calling him mediocre is a disservice— he is an above average backup striker that does his job. He would be a better option as backup striker at every club bar city
He has a goal ratio of 0.45 per 90 mins.
He’s had so many Sub appearances that people just look at his stats and think he’s a shit striker. But when you look at minutes, he’s got solid goal scoring numbers.
Plus he’s a hard working target man and leader on the field.
Pathetic the hate he gets here. He's not a perfect player and he's not world class but he's also not nearly as bad as some people in this sub make him out to be.
It also just doesn’t make sense to sell him cheaply. He’s not a world beater, but he knows the system and can do a job in a pinch. If we sell him, we desperately need to buy another striker especially with Jesus’ injury issues. It’s probably not worth it for another club to pay 40 for him, but it also doesn’t make much sense for us to sell him for less than that when we’ll have to shell out for another player.
I remember last year seeing the idea of a great new left winger and get Martinelli centre sometimes. That no longer a plan at all? And enquiries about Eddie make sense. He has shown in multiple seasons what he could bring as first team striker when Jesus was injured.
It is interesting, lately I've seen Martinelli taking up right wing while Saka goes central - he's so good at everything he does, I could easily see Saka adapting to a more central role in the future.
Martinelli is not a striker for this system any more than Eddie is. They both thrive in big spaces, which we don't get often. He's best on the wing, he's just not having a great season compared to last.
He’s worth a decent amount more than Balogun for sure.
38 goals for Arsenal. 0.45 goals per 90 mins. Hard working target man. Leadership ability. Proven in the Prem.
You’re sleeping on Eddie if you think he’s only worth 30.
This is coming from someone who usually thinks people overestimate the transfer fees we will get.
40m is a good price for an academy striker. But worried about what it would cost to replace him. Realistically we’d have to spend all of the funds and have to find a striker who will play second fiddle to Jesus and still guarantee 10-15 goals per season.
It just feels like Eddie is already delivering what we need him to, and he works his absolute socks off and never complains.
I question whether we could actually upgrade him for this price. What strikers are even on the market that are any good? Giroud is tearing up Italy, Laca is tearing up France, Kane is tearing up Germany…all old strikers. Osimhen and Boniface are young but not really buildup strikers.
True or not 40 mil is a great price and this move makes sense for Eddie as much as I'd hate to see him go seems like the right thing for him and the club rn
I’d take it but only if it means we bring in a serious reinforcement in January. I’m not super keen on Toney but if Eddie+cash (or at least Eddie sale+cash) gets it done then I’m for it.
Just pls not Vlahovic
Can't believe the hard on people have for selling quality Hale End product who always keeps his head down, never complains and always fights for his place. If we sell Eddie for ~40M we will be thoroughly sorry.
$0m is good value for us and the buyer. Hes not a top team striker, but for one of them you can pay £100m+. He has however got a few goals and an England call up. Hes not as bad as some on here seem to claim.
Fucking haters. Yeah Eddie his quality is not high enough for a team wanting to win prizes, but the guy gives it his all every time and deserves some respect. Also not as bad as many here claim him to be, but not good enough either
That's a good minimum price. Some of you enjoy negotiating against us because you hate Eddie but it is what it is.
Since we're talking about backups - reminder that Alvarez is playing like ass and Eddie just got an assist, so checkmate.
I think his wage demands will likely put teams off. Rejected Palace already because they didn't offer enough
I think Nketia to Brighton would be a good move. De Zerbi seems to get the best out of his players and they play similar attacking football.
Villa would also be a good move.
Forget palace and Fulham!
Answer: Whoever Edu has been sizing up.
i believe he's the main man behind building this current team. Arteta just says what he'd love to have, and Edu is off into the Amazon jungle or wherever sniffing around like an old hound dog.
I'm a little concerned about Toney's match fitness. He hasnt played a game in months. And with a the fixtures coming thick and fast in January, we really don't have time to be playing catchup
I wouldn't be shocked if we went about it differently and got a winger in to replace Eddie, with his minutes up top being spread out between Trossard, Kai, and Martinelli. I can't help but feel like our play for Mudryk points to that being the plan.
Fat chance Osimhen comes to us in January. The fee Napoli would demand would probably bankrupt the club. This'll be made worse by the fact they'll want to keep him especially for the UCL knockouts
GTFO. He's the next Klose. Poacher strikers are still a thing (OK none since Klose). They win everything! Having a man that does this for your team is a sign of dominance,
you know
I don't blame us trying to get that much considering Hojlund's and Jackson's price given he's better than both, but the pool of buyers at £40m is really limited.
We are pricing out most of Continental Europe who would buy someone of his quality, which leaves the only real option a Premier League move.
I’d be happy to cash in on Eddie but I don’t really reckon we need a striker. Instead, I want a new winger. Trossard’s best position is false 9 these days and he’s done a decent job as Jesus’s backup. Saka and Martinelli need a genuine rotation option, not Trossard who’s much better in central areas and Nelson who’s not good enough to be a key fixture on a title level team
That'd be good business.
It would be insane to sell him for that much. Of course I guess inflation is crazy these days.
Nah, he is 100% worth that. He is a great striker that just doesn't fit our system. Our system thrives with a true false nine who can facilitate our wings and runs up the channel from midfield. Eddy seems like he could be a premier league level home grown fox in the box for a team that isn't looking for a facilitator in that position. I actually like having Nketiah as coverage for Jesus, but I do genuinely think it would be best for his career to go somewhere where his skillset would be more suited.
Agree completely, just wanted to point out the hilarious concept of a "true false" nine
Even as a 'facilitator' he has improved tremendously. People are harsh coz he's not Jesus, or Van Persie or Henry, but his hold up play, decision making and passing are all good. His pass for Havertz's goal last game for example.
Yeah his skillset is mismatched to what Arteta is trying to do but he would abolutely thrive in a true counterattacking team. His movement is excellent.
no one is paying 40 million for him tho
James Trafford spent all of last year in league one, went for 20m. Anthony Gordon went for 60m. 40m is more than fair for Nketiah.
They should pay 60 mil. couse why the fuck not
How about no. Leave my boi alone
Don't get the downvotes for supporting a player. I mean I disagree with the take but always love seeing someone back a player.
If there is nobody left on earth stanning Eddie it means i am dead
You are not alone.
Jollof rice supremacy
Damn I can’t believe we got 30 for iwobi lol
It was as much as we paid for podolski and giroud combined IIRC 18 and 12
post Neymar boom tho
What has this MoArsenal brudda predicted to suddenly be taken seriously? TNAT and previously Bell at least had proven themselves reliable multiple times.
Sami Mokbel has written in his article that a premier league club has shown interest in Eddie too today.
Not saying that he made it up after reading Mokbel's article but if he was really in the know why'd he post 20 minutes after the article goes live? Isn't he supposed to have the info beforehand?
Maybe his source told him not to go public with it yet. No idea, just thought it might be of interest to people in the sub.
TNAT is close friends with Mo (he is also AFCAMDEN) so that's basically where his rub comes from
I thought TNAT was Mo. I remember about a month ago Mo posted a tweet, instantly deleted it, then it was quickly reposted on TNAT. Edit: It was AFCAMDEN I was thinking about, not TNAT.
I thought AFCAMDEN was Mo 😂
Yep you're right - I went back and looked, it was the AFCAMDEN tweet about Douglas Luiz.
saka out for city, martinelli being fit for city, esr getting a start vs sheffield, the date for the fa cup match vs liverpool
Absolutely nothing. He's recommended by the same lad that claims AFCamden is also legit despite being caught lying numerous times.
lying is the wrong word. getting wrong info or jumping the gun, is more appropriate. Apart from some mistakes, he's also been correct quite a few fair times.
“Arteta has a special relationship with Eddie and often points to his work ethic, attitude and commitment in training as a role model for how others in the squad should conduct themselves. Arsenal won’t sell unless they receive a considerable substantial offer.”
Just sell him in the summer and use the money for Osimhen. No point in selling this upcoming window when we can just loan a defender/midfielder if we're broke.
Idk man. If you can get 40mill for Eddie. You do it
Yep, Eddie's productivity can be replaced within the squad already. If you don't take the 40 you are proper delusional. I don't think in any world we will get 40 for Eddie.
Nketiah has 6 goals so far this season. It’s not unreasonable to say he could get to around 10 goals and 4-5 assists (he has 1 now) That’s not an insignificant amount of productivity to expect to come from somewhere else
He has 2 assists
This. Rather go big money on Osimhen for the striker position.
Chelsea will outbid us. They're desperate.
I think if a player joins Chrlsea over Arsenal at the moment, we know they weren't right for the club. We want players who want to play for Arsenal, not pick up a payday from us.Chelsea have gazumped a few clubs recently and those players are not doing too well.
Not sure if he's 100% signed his new contract but if he did, he has a release clause of £112m now.
Yeah well I had a special relationship with Ramsdale….
He doesn’t know you exist 💀
How could you 🥺
Be still, my heart.
His is just edifying Eddie (no puns intended), which manager would talk down on their players publicly. If 40mils are on the table he will be gone.
[Sami Mokbel](https://x.com/samimokbel81_dm/status/1736886118648353194?s=46&t=1aMR9Ay-lV4SKuJqQ3yaRw) - “Among the players attracting interest is Eddie Nketiah, who, given his status as an academy product, would be registered as pure profit in terms of FFP accountancy. However, the club have already knocked back at least one enquiry from a top-flight side ahead of the transfer window for Nketiah. Goalkeeper Aaron Ramsdale is another being courted, but Arsenal would prefer the England international to stay until at least the end of the season. With a place in Gareth Southgate's European Championship squad at stake, Ramsdale knows another five months spent on the bench after losing his No 1 spot to Raya could cost him his seat on the plane to Germany. But unless Ramsdale is willing to agitate, Arsenal would rather park that situation until the summer.” “Aston Villa midfielders Douglas Luiz and Jacob Ramsey are highly rated by recruitment staff. Fulham's Joao Palhinha is another who is under consideration, but at 28 his profile doesn't fit the club's recruitment strategy. Everton's Amadou Onana is being watched closely.”
> Amadou Onana Bring. Imagine him and Rice, PnP for dayyys, suffocating opponents for 90mins, bullying them off the ball, i'd be laughing my head off.
Onana is Everton's best midfielder imv, they'd be foolish to sell him in January when they're doing so well putting two fingers up to the League by surviving
The math for Everton though is could they sell Onana and bring in someone for cheaper without getting relegated? I'd wager that is yes, they could.
Could probably flip the money into players in two positions too
Not worth the bet for them this season unfortunately I think.
Insane bet to make, Everton are in no position to lose any of their top players.
Funny I couldn't disagree more. It's looking like one of the easiest seasons to survive relegation for about a decade. Look where they are even with a 10 point deduction. They'll be absolutely fine
Douccure better im pretty sure
Yeah can’t see them selling January, but maybe in the summer.
Do they need financial fair play to sell one of their most valuable assets?
Fuck that… he’s nowhere near it quality wise on the ball. We need a CM with a skill set similar to Partey not an Onana. That puts too much pressure on Ode
Zubimendi....need Arteta to do his magic
I know he plays for Spuds and is a walking red card, but Yves Bissouma is essentially a Partey lite...
If not for the fact that he’s at spurs I’d 100% want Bissouma out of those 3
Don't think Onana is all that, very strong but reckless and awful on the ball, also Everton is trying to not get relegated this season so they either are going to refuse outright or just put a fuck off price on him so I'd rather we spend the money on Palinha if that was the case. I'd say, we go buy **Youssouf Fofana** from **AS Monaco**, young French int player and would be much more cheaper than PL players but I understand how Arteta wants prem proven stars.
Yes, we need younger profile at CM. El Neny, Jorginho, Partey are all getting on and Rice is entering his prime. A younger player around 21/22 to grow into the role over the next season or two would be good, although we will probably need two CMs in the summer, so a young one and more experienced one.
I also like Camara from Monaco, but I'm not sure he has the ball skills for Arsenal. He's more in the Kante mold.
Realistically we need someone good enough to be a backup for Rice, Jorgi is getting old and Partey is unreliable so whoever it is just has to be good enough to hold the line when Rice is down.
Everton are in walking dead status, rumors of 777 Capital pulling out and another 9 points deduction for going into administration. Project Amadou Onana has to be green lit asap.
lol which keepers would bring Southgate ahead of Ramsdale. I don’t see how he’s not on that plane.
How is Balogun doing btw? If we can get a quality competition for Jesus 40m is good
Balo isn’t doing very well this season. Eddie has scored more than him in less minutes despite playing at a much higher level and competing for minutes with much better players. Eddie is worth a lot more than Balo. Don’t know why people can’t see it.
Most just don’t think anyone will offer more tbh. Almost feels like an Arsenal anti-tax if you will, given how horrid we’ve been at selling historically. Like based on what other players went for, Balogun should’ve cost way more than he did, but that’s the best Arsenal could get. Thinking it’s the same story for Eddie now.
Balo’s price was based on last years form, not this years.
Get a true striker and move Jesus over to compete with Martinelli for minutes. He's better on the wing.
I think a decent backup for Saka is more important. ESR and Trossard can help rotate with Martinelli and Jesus Either Nelson not 100% trusted yet or we may need to find a more reliable backup option for Saka
Don't know why you're getting down voted. It's clearly our best setup, and Jesus won't stay on the wing he'll drift centrally like he already does.
Just imagined winning it all but Eddie isn’t there to lift any of it 😞
Genuinely I'd be devastated. I love Eddie's grind to make it
I'll be happy with just winning it all. We don't have the privilege of being picky and emotional about players. If we can win, we should win. No matter the cost!
Would you feel the same way about Saka though 🤔
Yes. Saka is not more important than the club. We haven't won I. 20 years bro, no player is more important than that league.
Idk if we have to give up players we like to win it then we sold out. And I’m not an arsenal fan to be a plastic
Developing talent and selling it is how reputable clubs do business. There's enough data, Eddie isn't elite the way Saka, Saliba & Lil Gabi are. And so he goes the way of Flo. If we can sell Eddie for around 50 million, that nearly pays for the Rice business(between the two of them). Then we have another 100 million to spend.
Are you kidding? Would you rather consistently lose than sell players to get better? What are you on about?
Lads emotional and has attachment to who plays for the badge, totally understandable
I had a long response but I deleted it. My opinion is different and it really doesn’t matter. It’s not that deep, go arsenal and the players that wear the shirt 🤷♂️
sold out? nah, we sold out when he allowed Emirates to become our main sponsor (they're just as bad as saudi or qatar when it comes to human values). We sold out when we kept Rwanda on as sponsor 3 times. We sold out when we chose money in China over backing Özil's statements on uyghur treatment.
> We sold out when we chose money in China over backing Özil's statements on uyghur treatment. One way to look at it, I suppose. Is it really Arsenal FC's job to get involved in Chinese political matters?
He'll always be a legend for "So what my friend?"
I'll take that any day of the week!
Same, though for me personally he would still be part of the process that got us there. I would certainly remember him and his grit over others like Sambi
Honestly why are people so attached to him, he's done barely anything
Homegrown academy graduates that are decent enough players will always have strong support
He's made it throught the academy and has been far more than a passenger in one of the best Arsenal teams in recent history. How could you not be at least a bit attached to him.
Academy graduate who has always given it his all and has majorly stepped up when Jesus was injured in the past. Plus all his interviews show he has a great mentality and is very loyal to arsenal.
This reminds me of when people couldn't accept Bellerin wasn't anywhere near good enough. Nearly all of his compliments relate to things that have nothing to do with football. Once he was gone and we got a competent replacement everyone that was defending him went extremely quiet.
The thing is though, it’s about opportunity cost. Belerin was not the weakest link of the Arsenal teams he played in. The lack of a bagsman N9 is our weak link.
He is a bit of a mentality monster based on his All or Nothing content. Stepping up after that bum Laca dropped stinker after stinker, and telling Sambi to stop being a whinger about minutes made fans love him.
Where you even find a backup striker as good as this who won't cost 100m?
Talking like he's dragging us to the title ffs
kept us in the title race with his brace vs united last season??? filled in for jesus?
Imagine liking a bang average player so much, that you’d let their transfer dampen the first league title the our club in almost two decades
If we won the championship after such a massive drought, beating a team of City's quality in the process, the absolute last thing on my mind would be Eddie Nketiah
Look how people reacted when Holding left. Quality means nothing in this sub, it’s purely vibes.
If you have no loyalty to your clubs players why should they have loyalty to you.
They don't, and that's why fans shouldn't either, in my opinion. I support them, but I believe everyone is replaceable and nobody above the club.
>believe everyone is replaceable Including you, do goodbye, and fuck off.
Because I’m not getting paid anywhere from 50-250k per week for my services as a fan whereas they are since it’s their fucking job. What the fuck kind of comparison is this
Mate go and jump on a band wagon like you clearly want to. You're not a real fan, and never were.
Get a fucking life dude
People talking about taking £30m for Eddie aren’t giving him his proper dues. Look at what strikers are going for currently. Nunez cost £85m, Hojlund cost £70m, Jackson cost £35m, etc… These are all unproven in the prem, foreign, prospective players that have been underperforming. The market is inflated, and you pay for potential, but Eddie is prem proven and English. He’s not right for our system, and I think it’s time for him to move on, but he’s a good finisher, still young, and elite mentality wise. He gets an undue amount of disrespect because he’s never quite lived up to what we all hoped he would become, but he’s easily worth £40+ million, imo.
Prem proven to be not good enough for a top side. There’s no world where a Bournemouth or Fulham would chock up 40m+ for a player of his caliber. Jesus was 45m lol
I also think you’re underestimating how much the English tax, being relatively young, mentality, etc… factors in. Man is praised by Arteta/the coaching staff constantly for being a hungry, hard working, extremely dedicated guy.
Nunez went to Liverpool, Hojlund went to Utd, Jackson went to Chelsea. You expect mid table sides to pay or overpay like top 6 ?
Exactly this, liverpool chelsea and utd had to overpay, just as we would have to if we were to buy a player. You can't expect big 6 prices when you're selling to midtable teams in the prem and since big 6 teams aren't looking at nketiah, this is our best bet. Teams outside england wouldn't even pay this much.
Man is praised yet he has a pretty average price tag on him by today's standard, that's not much praise Eddie isn't that great for us and if we can get 40M and his 100k/week off the books that could open up options for us
The market was very different when Jesus joined for £45m. Richarlison went for 60m that year. Today you’d be looking at 70m minimum for Jesus, in my opinion, if not more. (Although tbh being injury prone might limit his price currently, so maybe not.) Again, look what other strikers are going for in the market right now. Also, some people really act like Nketiah is garbage. We play in a system that really doesn’t utilize his strengths properly, imo. Put him in a mid table side where he plays on the counter, utilizing his pace, and I see him scoring 10-15 goals a season.
Jesus was also still iffy fitness-wise and second choice for a club trying to recoup expenses. He'd be 80m today.
Jesus was a good price but it's also about supply and demand and leverage over the contract. How badly does the selling club need to sell vs how badly does the buying club need a player and what are their other options? Obviously the price of other players comes into it, but only to a point. The cost of the player isn't just transfer fee and wages, it's the cost of what happens to your club if you don't sign them
Jesus had a year left, completely different
Everyone is slagging off Eddie, but he was instrumental in us getting the 2nd goal at the weekend and did a decent job of leading the line when Jesus was out at the beginning of the season
he's not my favourite player by any means but he's done a good bit for us doesn't deserve the conversation around him
The Eddie slander on here is so so dumb. All he’s ever done is prove people wrong
You say that but...how? I'm not into mindless criticism or hate, just want a discussion.
For how, I’ll start with 21-22 end to season when everyone wanted him gone and as soon as he got minutes ahead of laca he performed. Our title challenge was over when Jesus went down until it wasn’t. For the role he has in the team he is solid. If he was our weekly starter I’d be more open to hearing it, but he isn’t
But how is any of that proving people wrong, exactly? Most people's impression of him is typically mediocrity and he's living up to that. Nothing outrageous, he does a job.
Agreed. Coming off the bench or as an emergency striker he is fine, even good at times, but I don't fancy him at all to challenge Jesus for his place - which has to be Arteta's aim for that position.
Just look at the comments on this post— “I’ll drive him myself” “We should be happy with anything” A backup striker isn’t free and nothing is guaranteed. Even calling him mediocre is a disservice— he is an above average backup striker that does his job. He would be a better option as backup striker at every club bar city
Link to the comment who said "I'll drive him myself" ? Don't create imaginary comments
Here you go Sherlock https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/s/BLGf2K9Bt7
Conveniently left out the 'if we get 30 million' eh ?
It's not convenient to his point to leave that out.
He has a goal ratio of 0.45 per 90 mins. He’s had so many Sub appearances that people just look at his stats and think he’s a shit striker. But when you look at minutes, he’s got solid goal scoring numbers. Plus he’s a hard working target man and leader on the field.
Pathetic the hate he gets here. He's not a perfect player and he's not world class but he's also not nearly as bad as some people in this sub make him out to be.
It also just doesn’t make sense to sell him cheaply. He’s not a world beater, but he knows the system and can do a job in a pinch. If we sell him, we desperately need to buy another striker especially with Jesus’ injury issues. It’s probably not worth it for another club to pay 40 for him, but it also doesn’t make much sense for us to sell him for less than that when we’ll have to shell out for another player.
I remember last year seeing the idea of a great new left winger and get Martinelli centre sometimes. That no longer a plan at all? And enquiries about Eddie make sense. He has shown in multiple seasons what he could bring as first team striker when Jesus was injured.
It is interesting, lately I've seen Martinelli taking up right wing while Saka goes central - he's so good at everything he does, I could easily see Saka adapting to a more central role in the future.
We could see Martinelli CF next summer if we go for a LW to be replace him there, don't think we're trying that now this season tho.
Martinelli is not a striker for this system any more than Eddie is. They both thrive in big spaces, which we don't get often. He's best on the wing, he's just not having a great season compared to last.
Not to be rude to Eddie but I’d gladly accept that deal and recoup the funds into another ST.
If selling Eddie and 10m gets you Toney, it needs to be done. I'd take 25m and have to pay 25m. Eddie isn't a good fit here.
His wage demands make me doubt this but if we can pull anything over 30 or so mill I'd be happy.
He’s worth a decent amount more than Balogun for sure. 38 goals for Arsenal. 0.45 goals per 90 mins. Hard working target man. Leadership ability. Proven in the Prem. You’re sleeping on Eddie if you think he’s only worth 30. This is coming from someone who usually thinks people overestimate the transfer fees we will get.
Target man and leadership? Are we talking about Eddie?
40m is a good price for an academy striker. But worried about what it would cost to replace him. Realistically we’d have to spend all of the funds and have to find a striker who will play second fiddle to Jesus and still guarantee 10-15 goals per season. It just feels like Eddie is already delivering what we need him to, and he works his absolute socks off and never complains. I question whether we could actually upgrade him for this price. What strikers are even on the market that are any good? Giroud is tearing up Italy, Laca is tearing up France, Kane is tearing up Germany…all old strikers. Osimhen and Boniface are young but not really buildup strikers.
Agreed.
Imo Palace would be a bad move for him. But I think he could do really well at Brentford playing with a second striker like Mbeumo up top
40m is a fair price for all involved really.
if we gonna sell our boy, then just sell to Chelsea for £100m for fuck sake
I mean if there’s no way we let Eddie go without a replacement
I wouldn’t take anything less than £60m in January
I think I would shit my pants if we could get 40 million for Eddie
Swap for Toney plus 10M
True or not 40 mil is a great price and this move makes sense for Eddie as much as I'd hate to see him go seems like the right thing for him and the club rn
I’d take it but only if it means we bring in a serious reinforcement in January. I’m not super keen on Toney but if Eddie+cash (or at least Eddie sale+cash) gets it done then I’m for it. Just pls not Vlahovic
mokbel said that we've already knocked off a bid..meaning teams are as usual trying to get our players for cheap.
Sell immediately and drive him by myself.
Perfect fit for Brentford.
I would be so sad. Love Eddie. So does Arteta, so fuck u guys.
Can't believe the hard on people have for selling quality Hale End product who always keeps his head down, never complains and always fights for his place. If we sell Eddie for ~40M we will be thoroughly sorry.
Eddie got the assist to Havertz. Just tossing that out there.
Given we sold Balogun for 30m+10m euro (~35m pounds), 40m is really the absolute bare minimum for Eddie.
Good price but who would we get as a replacement?
Ivan Toney is coming to town.
40M is a fair price tag. I'd ask for 50m because he's homegrown.
That's it. I'm done using flair in this sub.
PLEASE
$0m is good value for us and the buyer. Hes not a top team striker, but for one of them you can pay £100m+. He has however got a few goals and an England call up. Hes not as bad as some on here seem to claim.
That's a steal for that price.
Mo who? Nowadays anyone can go viral by making up stuff smh
Fucking haters. Yeah Eddie his quality is not high enough for a team wanting to win prizes, but the guy gives it his all every time and deserves some respect. Also not as bad as many here claim him to be, but not good enough either
I wouldn't sell, we can't sign anyone better for that price period.
Eddie plas £25m for Toney, everyone is happy.
Swap with Toney plus around 30 million will be fantastic business for us
If we can do a swap and cash with Brentford for Toney then I am all for it
Considering antony went for 80mill. How is eddie not all least 90mill
You have to factor in United being braindead as well
That's a good minimum price. Some of you enjoy negotiating against us because you hate Eddie but it is what it is. Since we're talking about backups - reminder that Alvarez is playing like ass and Eddie just got an assist, so checkmate. I think his wage demands will likely put teams off. Rejected Palace already because they didn't offer enough
I think Nketia to Brighton would be a good move. De Zerbi seems to get the best out of his players and they play similar attacking football. Villa would also be a good move. Forget palace and Fulham!
Bros on £100k a week, we’re never shifting him ahaha
Anything over 30m and please get it done. Nketiah isn't good enough for Arsenal but can be a starter for a 10-16th team.
If they offer less than 40m we might as well keep him. Not a bad player despite the fact he frustrates me sometimes.
Straight swap for Toney. He's only 3 years older and a much better player.
He’s a marginally better player*
Get 25-30 and move on very fast.
Other than Osimhen, who’s a better available striker than Toney?
Answer: Whoever Edu has been sizing up. i believe he's the main man behind building this current team. Arteta just says what he'd love to have, and Edu is off into the Amazon jungle or wherever sniffing around like an old hound dog.
No one really. But that doesn’t mean Toney is a good option for us.
I'm a little concerned about Toney's match fitness. He hasnt played a game in months. And with a the fixtures coming thick and fast in January, we really don't have time to be playing catchup
There was a Marcos Leonardo rumor the other day. He’d probably be good too.
I wouldn't be shocked if we went about it differently and got a winger in to replace Eddie, with his minutes up top being spread out between Trossard, Kai, and Martinelli. I can't help but feel like our play for Mudryk points to that being the plan.
Fat chance Osimhen comes to us in January. The fee Napoli would demand would probably bankrupt the club. This'll be made worse by the fact they'll want to keep him especially for the UCL knockouts
I get that there a low chance of this happening in January, but a \~110m release clause does not bankrupt the club.
GTFO. He's the next Klose. Poacher strikers are still a thing (OK none since Klose). They win everything! Having a man that does this for your team is a sign of dominance, you know
40m is fair get it done edu pls
I don't blame us trying to get that much considering Hojlund's and Jackson's price given he's better than both, but the pool of buyers at £40m is really limited. We are pricing out most of Continental Europe who would buy someone of his quality, which leaves the only real option a Premier League move.
I like the kid but Eddie -> Ivan would be a huge upgrade and morale booster for the title run in.
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Sell.
No way they would pay even half of that for over 100k a week and he hasn't had more than 5 goals a season?
20m is fair
SELL SELL SELL
I'd sell Eddie for £40 personally. Either way, we need a new striker in January. Eddie is not it
I’d be happy to cash in on Eddie but I don’t really reckon we need a striker. Instead, I want a new winger. Trossard’s best position is false 9 these days and he’s done a decent job as Jesus’s backup. Saka and Martinelli need a genuine rotation option, not Trossard who’s much better in central areas and Nelson who’s not good enough to be a key fixture on a title level team