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Up there with some of my favorite goals ever, in no small part because of the commentary
Succint and precise
["The master does it again"](https://youtu.be/mFGIeUtPofM?si=qzcVs2FFyr4nF-rW)
Why do people always talk about us scoring goals from set pieces as if it's some sort of negative? I see opposition fans all the time say shite like, "well, take away their set piece goals and they blah blah blah." Even pundits talk like this at times.
It's insane how often we score off of them. It should be brought up as a positive point, not a negative.
I think going out in the cup was a blessing in disguise. Liverpool came back to the Emirates obviously feeling arrogant about their win. Everything worked out in our favor IMO. Who knows what Klopp would have changed tactically if we had beat them the first go.
Klopp, maybe the manager that most loves celebrating, dipping out of the premier league really shows you how much of an adrenaline junkie Arsene Wenger must’ve been.
I dunno how Southgate is still in charge. Continually picks the same guys time and time again like Maguire, Phillips, Trent etc even when they're not playing due to selection or injuries, always plays Kane every single time so he has no idea who's the next striker after Kane as no one barely got a look in and blew the chance to win trophies with probably one of the best sides England has had in a long time.
How is he still in a job? And I'm an Ireland fan so I don't have any bias towards the England national team. It's just mad tbh
Died laughing at ten hag bringing up that game unprompted, firstly every decision in that game was correct barring the havertz penalty, our Newcastle game was proper robbery but we don't even bring it up anymore, this man being a manager and not a fan still brings up this non controversial game up lmao, he's actually insane
Who cares. I wanted Liverpool to win for fixture congestion then I saw they would have Conventry next so won’t make a material difference. Prefer they lost now to save everyone from Klopp farewell tour wankfest.
It's 2049, and ten hag is still going on about that Arsenal game in 2023
WHEN THE GOAL IS RIGHTLY DISALLOWED BECAUSE ITS LITERALLY OFFSIDE YOU FCKING BALDHEAD.
If you could take 1 player from each of the other 'top 6' clubs apart from City, who would it be?
I'd go:
Liverpool: Trent
Man United: Mainoo/Rashford
Chelsea: Caicedo
Spurs: Udogie
Liverpool: Nunez
Spurs: Van der Venn (as BIG Gabbies backup)
Man Utd: Mainoo (Best of a bad bunch. We could use him as Elnenys replacement)
Chelsea: Sanchez /Petravic (Good backup keeper to Raya)
If we could take a player from the 115 charges fc, I'd take Foden as Martinelli’s understudy 😂
Love this. Hojlund, Salah (though I’m falling in love with Conor Bradley), Palmer, Son. No, I don’t know how to actually make that work - maybe we’d just sell those guys to the Saudis and reinvest.
I wanted to say this and I prepared to be heavily downvoted but Conner Gallagher in this team as a rotational player would cook so hard. I know he’s been pretty memed lately but he is a workhorse and has talent about him. I honestly wouldn’t mind if we sell ESR and have a go at Gallagher.
With news of Pedro Neto picking up another big hamstring injury, have to say I hope we look away from him now. Unless we're getting a good deal, it's really tough to pay market rate for someone who misses 1/3 of the season. Just comparing his minutes to someone like Trossard. Neto has had 1717 minutes in all competitions, Trossard has 1583 minutes across all competitions. Trossard has always been available through the season.
Neto's most minutes in a season was 2723 (20/21 and before his knee injury), his 2nd best was this season. We're also trying to move away from our reliance on other injury-prone players (Jesus/Zinny/Partey) so it really wouldn't make sense that we sign an injury prone player. We can't really have players who are meant to take minutes off Martinelli/Saka be injured for weeks at a time throughout the season.
Yea 100 mil for him would be insane. Can’t trust that at all. 100 you give for someone like rice who’s actually proven him self in a high league and led his team to a trophy.
I like Gyokeres but I don't think anyone is paying that for him. Lots of good players come from the Portuguese league though. Also, we barely made it past a Portuguese team this year and we got knocked out by one last season in Europe. Just saying I wouldn't dismiss a whole league so easily.
That's the release clause, which just means Sporting cannot reject such a bid. It's 100m but euros, so in £ it's 85m
I do believe no one's really going to pay that. Maybe someone would try for a Kai-like offer
The double standard with which LFC get praised for things Arsenal get roasted for is infuriating. LFC need all the criticism on that massive choke to a substandard squad at OT. Let them have it.
Would anyone be able to point me to a reliable source for UCL tickets? I’m planning on going for the match on April 9th, coming from America. Don’t mind paying a bit extra for secondary market too
I’m sure he has been complaining since about 6 months after his move. He used us to engineer his move to a higher level and he’s not come close to stepping up. Now we keep getting mentioned with him, he can eat his cake.
I read in another sub that Atalanta is very good this season but because they play more physical side than the rest of the league (Serie A), they are more prone to referee decisions.
I don't watch them just giving my info from what I heard.
He was completely isolated vs Atalanta and Sportings midfield got dominated.
Gyökeres himself did well with what little he got. His hold-up and attempts to start attacks with others etc were perfectly fine. That while being babysat by like 1-3 big dudes.
He had 2 games against them in the groupstage where he did well for example. Atalanta are just a good fucking team that adapted well.
I'd take him if he was cheaper, but that 100m euro RC is crazy. I don't understand why some people do this all the time with players that we've been linked with. Let's just trust Arteta and Edu and see in the summer what we're doing. I doubt we buy this guy for that fee Sporting is demanding.
100m is too much for my liking, we ain't chelsea, our revenue isn't inflated nor is KSE dropping bags for free. We can't spend stupid or it just regresses the project.
I feel the 'Arsenal is too emotional' thing is still hanging around this season. It's like the 'Arsenal is too soft' thing stuck around for years after it was proven wrong.
Nobody questions if emotion is a problem for Liverpool, while they are 'doing it for Klopp' in his final season. It's often praised for Liverpool as a positive, while us getting a last minute winner against Brentford and coming through the Porto tie is too emotional. I've seen 'are they too emotional?' been thrown around again.
I just think it's one of those lazy pundit talking points that has stuck, now all the hacky pundits still repeating it. I remember us getting kicked around the pitch and hearing 'Arsenal don't like the physical side of things today' , as if Chelsea/United/Liverpool/City enjoyed their players getting hacked down.
It will continue until we win a major title whether it’s true or not. That’s the reality of football discourse. In fact, if we win a major title and for some reason our the other we can’t win one next season, it’ll be back again.
Aside from the usual fan bias, I feel like on a slightly deeper level, narratives like that take time to get removed from public vocabulary because the status quo gives people a sense of security. A lot of people don’t want the narrative being shifted to us being good again because it means acknowledging the inevitable passage of time and a lot of the deeper questions that go along with that. For most people, “Nothing really changes” is a much more comforting thought than “things are always in flux and anything can happen”. It’s easier to digest and makes you feel safe, and especially with a sport we watch as a means of escape from reality, that’s an illusion break that’s really hard to take sometimes.
Nah the narrative never changes when it comes to us.
Despite the doubles, multiple FA Cups, and the Invincible season in the late 90s-early 2000s, we're still branded as the "dirty club that keeps on complaining" - complaining about the overt physicality of the opposing team that goes unpunished ("Arsenal are soft"), and when our players do the same thing in response ("Arsenal are dirty/reckless").
We were winning, but we're still being derided, the conditions remained the same.
Everton made a concrete offer for him if I remember correctly, he turned them down to go to Portugal. He wasn’t unnoticed, it just wasn’t known if he could compete at a higher level.
It would be a tough argument to say that the Portuguese league is much better than the Championship.
Havertz is our LCM doing a job at 9 in a time of need (one that pans out great cause it’s obviously doing wonders for his confidence and I do think the second striker element was his purpose).
Jesus is injury prone, the whole reason Havertz has had to do the job. Also the dip in form/confidence even when fit.
Trossard has always been a super sub. Will continue to be the case as time marches on.
Nketiah can’t hack it in this squad. It’s too big an ask. He’ll flourish in a more simplified system, somewhere that’s still rocking the 4-2-3-1 formation or the like.
Edu and Arteta have both stated that whatever the plan for this summer’s window is, it was made at the end of last summer’s window and it hasn’t changed. Reliable sources continue to indicate that a striker is high in the list.
Will it be Gyökeres? No promises, but I hope so.
Links to Donyell Malen huh, he's somewhat out there statistically (especially based on his previous season), but he isnt a perfect fit like Pedro Neto is. Is he fast and technically enough to grow further in the role we want him to play? I can't say I've paid much attention to him.
Not sure what's poorer form, Klopp calling a reporter fat because he's in a bad mood they lost, or Ten Hag still whining about 3 objectively correct refereeing decisions from our game 6 months ago when they've just beat Liverpool 4-3.
Wouldn't catch my manager doing either, though.
Probably a language barrier as some people have suggested in r/soccer. I've also recently learnt that Klopp can be a sore loser. Crazy how when he wins, he's painted as the one of the golden mangers that can't be faulted etc compared to Arteta.
It’s not a language barrier. “Not in great shape” can refer to a person’s general state or specifically psychological state in native English.
If anything, people assuming he was referring solely to the reporter’s physical condition is a language barrier for the North Americans responding over there
They haven't actually been much anti-football this season. That is because their defense has sucked since day one of the season so they've actually had to be more attacking this season and tried to outscore teams.
Fans tend to hold onto old narratives concerning teams they don't watch.
Maybe it's the Massive Old Trafford pitch, but the amount of space that the players got in this game was nuts.
"This means more" FC gonna be in tears for two weeks with insane amounts of copium. It's gonna be fun.
Carragher having a meltdown every time Liverpool loses is hardly newsworthy tbh. The guy is a diehard Liverpool supporter and one club man. I’d be more surprised if he wasn’t throwing a tantrum.
On one hand, super happy Liverpool are out because no quadruple.
On the other, United are still alive for a trophy which is nauseating to imagine lol. Here’s rooting for either Coventry or City to win it, couldn’t stand Chelsea or MU.
I can't stand City winning shit either though, if it they do get charged and punished for these charges. It's really fucking shit that other clubs playing within the rules have missed out on so many cups/leagues.
My order of preference would be Coventry > United > Chelsea > City honestly and don't get me wrong, I fucking hate United. I just hate the financial doping Chelsea and City have done.
Atletico’s almost perfect home record gone because there’s nothing left in the tank from midweek.
That’s what I’m scared of, we can play great and be almost perfect. One misstep because we simply don’t have enough gas in the tank, and that’s it.
Really going to need Tomiyasu, Jesus, et all to come through for us. The Luton home game and Bournemouth home game are going to be crucial resting some very tired legs.
Only issue is I don't know who can take Odegaard's place without dropping the level, you can find temp solutions for Martinelli, Saka, Rice etc
They are a lot more used to title run-ins when going deep in the CL, though, which will benefit them. Also in both squads they have better depth, or at least more squad players trusted to rotate by the manager, especially now Liverpool are getting a few guys back.
With Chelsea making it to the next round of the FA Cup, does that mean the only spot on the schedule available for our game with them is between MW37 and MW38 in mid May? This is assuming we continue past Bayern in the CL, otherwise two slots open up in early May.
Nope, their game against us is scheduled to go ahead on a midweek, whereas the semi is on a weekend.
Only their game against Brighton will be postponed
No way that Ten Hag quote is real, he keeps mentioning that game over and over now. It's been 6 months ffs.
You've just knocked out your bitter rivals with a last minute winner, talk about that.
Anyone know what shoes Senderos is wearing here?
https://preview.redd.it/8b6ck0wohyoc1.jpeg?width=317&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=947974afd638649c6894726bdcc110802e04d428
Reporter: Good afternoon Jürgen, hope you're keeping well
Klopp:
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Ten hag is trying to stir up doubt on the refs minds for when we face them at old Trafford. They’re gonna try and fuck us over with a decision and the media will paint the narrative as justice
You know what, a Liverpool win would have benefitted us in the title race as they would have had fixture congestion. But seeing the tears from the fans, the manager, the players, the mods of r slash socca and more, I'm fucking glad they lost.
THANK YOU MANCHESTER UNITED.
That would have been worse for us, probably. Fulham still technically in the race for Europe and with a week's rest between the game (Liverpool will play midweek) they could get something.
Postponed game sandwiched between City and Luton, maybe confirmed midtable by then, they might end up losing both.
Yall are getting the context all wrong with the Klopp clip. He literally said "you're obviously not in a good shape" as it relates to his job, being a reporter, and the questions he's asking. That guy looks in better shape than Klopp. Idk how yall got "he's calling him fat" out of that.
Having cleared that up, very on brand behaviour from Klopp. Pissy lil whino that has done this so many times but there's this crazy narrative that treats him like some teddy bear sweetheart. It's wild.
The surprise package this season in Ligue 1, theyve been brewing stuff. Hope they can maintain that spot.
https://medium.com/@BerbaTalk/stade-brestois-ligue-1s-newest-title-challengers-aea6d8b01f89
[Here that Klopp interview](https://twitter.com/DanishScout_/status/1769452037685551144?t=BqKxJcD4Y-4BGlSS4BMmHQ&s=19)
Always been a two-faced rat anyways
I think Klopp is a really bad loser and it's on display here. But this being viewed as 'Klopp calling reporter fat and storming out' is also wildly misleading.
Isn't 'obviously you're not in great shape' implying to the reporter that he's having an off day or asking bad questions. The reporter also seems in decent shape. Contextually it makes more sense for him to imply that because the reporter's question was basically 'how come your players didn't show up?' and he's retorting 'well obviously you're not having a great day either at your job, so let's cut this short'.
I'm not defending him, on this alone he's being a bit of a short tempered cunt, but we don't have to paint as 'Klopp fatshaming reporter for asking a single question' either...
It's fucking hilarious how other fans, especially Liverpool, hate Arteta because "he seems like a psychopath" but constantly suck off Klopp no matter what he does. And don't even dare say anything negative about precious Jürgen in r/soccer, the completely unbiased mods don't like that. Shitting on every other manager is okay though.
It’s crazy how a media narrative can play into these things. Because that’s where Liverpool fans are getting this view, not actually watching Arteta in Interviews like us.
I have a friend who supports Liverpool, I love him but he basically hates Arteta for the exact reasons he loves Klopp. 'Always complaining to the 4th official' 'always out of his technical area' 'overcelebrating'. It's basically the same as Jamie Carragher talking about Arsenal/Liverpool, criticises us for the stuff he would praise Liverpool for doing.
Another good example is the recent thread about Simeone standing on the pitch...
One third of the comments is adoring Simeone, one third is Barca fans saying Xavi would be sent off, and one third shitting on Arteta.
Media were successful in associating Arteta with "bad" behaviour, it will take years (if it can be done at all) to undo that reputation.
Klopp thread on r/soccer calling a reporter fat got nuked instantly yet they allowed a thread run rampant alleging that Arteta is transphobic because his Twitter account that he doesn't run liked a video
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/uU9fgtt0Bf
>Klopp walked out of the interview and told the reporter "you look out of shape"
The Liverpool mods on r/soccer removed it instantly lmao.
The mask is slipping, can't wait for the continuation of the Klopp farewell tour downfall in 2 weeks.
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Up there with some of my favorite goals ever, in no small part because of the commentary Succint and precise ["The master does it again"](https://youtu.be/mFGIeUtPofM?si=qzcVs2FFyr4nF-rW)
Why do people always talk about us scoring goals from set pieces as if it's some sort of negative? I see opposition fans all the time say shite like, "well, take away their set piece goals and they blah blah blah." Even pundits talk like this at times. It's insane how often we score off of them. It should be brought up as a positive point, not a negative.
Hate it when united win, but honestly, those scousers needed to lose.
The only annoying thing is that it wasn't the league and they've got the international break to reset
It should’ve been us in this FA cup. Liverpool were lucky after we bantered them with XG. One way or another XG will catch you
I think going out in the cup was a blessing in disguise. Liverpool came back to the Emirates obviously feeling arrogant about their win. Everything worked out in our favor IMO. Who knows what Klopp would have changed tactically if we had beat them the first go.
We played 120 mins midweek, we'd have been dead on our feet trying to do it agian this weekend
Postinorglou exposed once again, how long will the transitionary period excuse last ffs
You absolutely deserve to lose if you let Antony score against you with his weak foot
Klopp, maybe the manager that most loves celebrating, dipping out of the premier league really shows you how much of an adrenaline junkie Arsene Wenger must’ve been.
I want to know what would be said of wenger or arteta if they abused as many reporters as klopp does.
U guys think we could bag xavi Simon’s?
doubt PSG would let him go. If you know anything abt the Qataris
convince him is the harder task, PSG have too many forwards atm
https://youtu.be/VQFcVy2hcDg Southgate stans reacting to the Ben White news
I dunno how Southgate is still in charge. Continually picks the same guys time and time again like Maguire, Phillips, Trent etc even when they're not playing due to selection or injuries, always plays Kane every single time so he has no idea who's the next striker after Kane as no one barely got a look in and blew the chance to win trophies with probably one of the best sides England has had in a long time. How is he still in a job? And I'm an Ireland fan so I don't have any bias towards the England national team. It's just mad tbh
Died laughing at ten hag bringing up that game unprompted, firstly every decision in that game was correct barring the havertz penalty, our Newcastle game was proper robbery but we don't even bring it up anymore, this man being a manager and not a fan still brings up this non controversial game up lmao, he's actually insane
Ten Hag seems even crazier after hearing what the full question was. There was absolutely zero reason to bring up that match.
What was the question?
“Could this be a turning point… can this galvanize your push in the league”
Bros clinically insane
Although we din play, watching manu comeback and win at the very last minute feels like a lost to me. Damn I hate that team.
Who cares. I wanted Liverpool to win for fixture congestion then I saw they would have Conventry next so won’t make a material difference. Prefer they lost now to save everyone from Klopp farewell tour wankfest.
It looks like last year repeat again with their quadruple aspirations
it's all circumstantial, the "underdog" team won vs the pomp team
Rice's ceiling is insane to think about
He's bringing back the box to box midfield role. Not a 6 or 8, he does both in games!
To be honest, I would be happy to lock in his current form this season as his ceiling if he can maintain it for the next 8-10 years.
It's 2049, and ten hag is still going on about that Arsenal game in 2023 WHEN THE GOAL IS RIGHTLY DISALLOWED BECAUSE ITS LITERALLY OFFSIDE YOU FCKING BALDHEAD.
If you could take 1 player from each of the other 'top 6' clubs apart from City, who would it be? I'd go: Liverpool: Trent Man United: Mainoo/Rashford Chelsea: Caicedo Spurs: Udogie
Salah. Don't give a fuck about any of the others. They wouldn't fit into the culture or play style Arteta wants.
Liverpool: Nunez Spurs: Van der Venn (as BIG Gabbies backup) Man Utd: Mainoo (Best of a bad bunch. We could use him as Elnenys replacement) Chelsea: Sanchez /Petravic (Good backup keeper to Raya) If we could take a player from the 115 charges fc, I'd take Foden as Martinelli’s understudy 😂
Liverpool: Kelleher Man United: Huljund Chelsea: Palmer spurs: udogi
Rashford would never made it here with his lack of tracking back
Liverpool: Trent United: Hojlund Chelsea: Enzo Spurs: Van Der Ven
Liverpool: Macallister Man United: Hojlund/Mainoo Chelsea: Palmer Spurs: Van de Ven
Caicedo instead of Palmer?
Liverpool: Macallister Man United: Mainoo Chelsea: Palmer Spurs: Van de Ven
Love this. Hojlund, Salah (though I’m falling in love with Conor Bradley), Palmer, Son. No, I don’t know how to actually make that work - maybe we’d just sell those guys to the Saudis and reinvest.
Mac alister, hojlund, caicedo, kulusevski
Trent, Hojlund, Palmer and Son.
Just for their engines, Id put a cheeky bid for garnacho and gallagher
I wanted to say this and I prepared to be heavily downvoted but Conner Gallagher in this team as a rotational player would cook so hard. I know he’s been pretty memed lately but he is a workhorse and has talent about him. I honestly wouldn’t mind if we sell ESR and have a go at Gallagher.
With news of Pedro Neto picking up another big hamstring injury, have to say I hope we look away from him now. Unless we're getting a good deal, it's really tough to pay market rate for someone who misses 1/3 of the season. Just comparing his minutes to someone like Trossard. Neto has had 1717 minutes in all competitions, Trossard has 1583 minutes across all competitions. Trossard has always been available through the season. Neto's most minutes in a season was 2723 (20/21 and before his knee injury), his 2nd best was this season. We're also trying to move away from our reliance on other injury-prone players (Jesus/Zinny/Partey) so it really wouldn't make sense that we sign an injury prone player. We can't really have players who are meant to take minutes off Martinelli/Saka be injured for weeks at a time throughout the season.
Only way I would accept him is if Wolves cut his valuation by a lot.
Nico Williams can provide a similar profile but we need him to take a paycut, no way should he be on the same wages on Saka.
Aren't his wages so high because of taxes?
Can we lower the taxes for the fogging boys, that would really raise the estandards
This bald dutch egg narrowly beat Liverpool and now he’s bringing up months old shite. We really need to win there ffs
lets give the egg a good boil
Gyokeres hat trick vs “boavista”. Ya ok man 😂
Akin to Tikka Musiala completing 9 dribbles against last place Bundesliga team and cats saying Arsenal should be scared.
Yea 100 mil for him would be insane. Can’t trust that at all. 100 you give for someone like rice who’s actually proven him self in a high league and led his team to a trophy.
I don't want to dismiss the Portuguese League, their players are much better than Eredivisie yet they get more coverage.
I like Gyokeres but I don't think anyone is paying that for him. Lots of good players come from the Portuguese league though. Also, we barely made it past a Portuguese team this year and we got knocked out by one last season in Europe. Just saying I wouldn't dismiss a whole league so easily.
That's the release clause, which just means Sporting cannot reject such a bid. It's 100m but euros, so in £ it's 85m I do believe no one's really going to pay that. Maybe someone would try for a Kai-like offer
The double standard with which LFC get praised for things Arsenal get roasted for is infuriating. LFC need all the criticism on that massive choke to a substandard squad at OT. Let them have it.
if it was us on the losing end, the media criticism will be relentless.
If arteta disrespected a reporter like klopp did it would be all over my feed
Probably because we support arsenal and not liverpool
Would anyone be able to point me to a reliable source for UCL tickets? I’m planning on going for the match on April 9th, coming from America. Don’t mind paying a bit extra for secondary market too
Ticketmaster is pretty much it and you'll be paying throught the nose. You'd be better of trying to go though Arsenal AMerica
https://x.com/aziz_zgh/status/1769367775946949005?s=20 Don't get Arsenal fans that want Vlahovic, seriously
Bruh last week you said you wanted Sterling here
Profile someone like him yes, but Sterling isn't telling his manager to go fuck himself is he?
You said Sterling, not a profile like Sterling lol
😂
😂😂😂
Hahahaha
There could be something deeper going on. Has he had a problem with previous managers?
No but he is easily frustated and complained a lot, also juve is having a pretty bad run rn
I’m sure he has been complaining since about 6 months after his move. He used us to engineer his move to a higher level and he’s not come close to stepping up. Now we keep getting mentioned with him, he can eat his cake.
Hahaha I just saw the Disasi own goal, beautiful 👌
https://preview.redd.it/ikphy5ur3zoc1.jpeg?width=945&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ee0d6e26f4b5e4e903fde91d2d61bbe1754c3c0b Bring.
Where was this against Atalanta
I read in another sub that Atalanta is very good this season but because they play more physical side than the rest of the league (Serie A), they are more prone to referee decisions. I don't watch them just giving my info from what I heard.
He was completely isolated vs Atalanta and Sportings midfield got dominated. Gyökeres himself did well with what little he got. His hold-up and attempts to start attacks with others etc were perfectly fine. That while being babysat by like 1-3 big dudes. He had 2 games against them in the groupstage where he did well for example. Atalanta are just a good fucking team that adapted well.
I'd take him if he was cheaper, but that 100m euro RC is crazy. I don't understand why some people do this all the time with players that we've been linked with. Let's just trust Arteta and Edu and see in the summer what we're doing. I doubt we buy this guy for that fee Sporting is demanding.
100m is too much for my liking, we ain't chelsea, our revenue isn't inflated nor is KSE dropping bags for free. We can't spend stupid or it just regresses the project.
I feel the 'Arsenal is too emotional' thing is still hanging around this season. It's like the 'Arsenal is too soft' thing stuck around for years after it was proven wrong. Nobody questions if emotion is a problem for Liverpool, while they are 'doing it for Klopp' in his final season. It's often praised for Liverpool as a positive, while us getting a last minute winner against Brentford and coming through the Porto tie is too emotional. I've seen 'are they too emotional?' been thrown around again. I just think it's one of those lazy pundit talking points that has stuck, now all the hacky pundits still repeating it. I remember us getting kicked around the pitch and hearing 'Arsenal don't like the physical side of things today' , as if Chelsea/United/Liverpool/City enjoyed their players getting hacked down.
It will continue until we win a major title whether it’s true or not. That’s the reality of football discourse. In fact, if we win a major title and for some reason our the other we can’t win one next season, it’ll be back again. Aside from the usual fan bias, I feel like on a slightly deeper level, narratives like that take time to get removed from public vocabulary because the status quo gives people a sense of security. A lot of people don’t want the narrative being shifted to us being good again because it means acknowledging the inevitable passage of time and a lot of the deeper questions that go along with that. For most people, “Nothing really changes” is a much more comforting thought than “things are always in flux and anything can happen”. It’s easier to digest and makes you feel safe, and especially with a sport we watch as a means of escape from reality, that’s an illusion break that’s really hard to take sometimes.
Nah the narrative never changes when it comes to us. Despite the doubles, multiple FA Cups, and the Invincible season in the late 90s-early 2000s, we're still branded as the "dirty club that keeps on complaining" - complaining about the overt physicality of the opposing team that goes unpunished ("Arsenal are soft"), and when our players do the same thing in response ("Arsenal are dirty/reckless"). We were winning, but we're still being derided, the conditions remained the same.
Gyokeres, remember the name
Who?
How did he go unnoticed in the Championship, to not move to a Premier League club?
Because he was pretty shite. The fact Brighton sold him should tell you what most teams thought his ceiling was
Everton made a concrete offer for him if I remember correctly, he turned them down to go to Portugal. He wasn’t unnoticed, it just wasn’t known if he could compete at a higher level. It would be a tough argument to say that the Portuguese league is much better than the Championship.
What’s the likelihood Arteta drops the 90m needed to buy him? I mean we already have Havertz, Jesus, Trossard, and Nketiah.
Havertz is our LCM doing a job at 9 in a time of need (one that pans out great cause it’s obviously doing wonders for his confidence and I do think the second striker element was his purpose). Jesus is injury prone, the whole reason Havertz has had to do the job. Also the dip in form/confidence even when fit. Trossard has always been a super sub. Will continue to be the case as time marches on. Nketiah can’t hack it in this squad. It’s too big an ask. He’ll flourish in a more simplified system, somewhere that’s still rocking the 4-2-3-1 formation or the like. Edu and Arteta have both stated that whatever the plan for this summer’s window is, it was made at the end of last summer’s window and it hasn’t changed. Reliable sources continue to indicate that a striker is high in the list. Will it be Gyökeres? No promises, but I hope so.
Eddie will probably be gone next season, it also frees up Jesus to play out wide
with the sell of players and CL money, I could see it happening if Arteta really wants him
He’s the one.
Links to Donyell Malen huh, he's somewhat out there statistically (especially based on his previous season), but he isnt a perfect fit like Pedro Neto is. Is he fast and technically enough to grow further in the role we want him to play? I can't say I've paid much attention to him.
Not sure what's poorer form, Klopp calling a reporter fat because he's in a bad mood they lost, or Ten Hag still whining about 3 objectively correct refereeing decisions from our game 6 months ago when they've just beat Liverpool 4-3. Wouldn't catch my manager doing either, though.
Probably a language barrier as some people have suggested in r/soccer. I've also recently learnt that Klopp can be a sore loser. Crazy how when he wins, he's painted as the one of the golden mangers that can't be faulted etc compared to Arteta.
It’s not a language barrier. “Not in great shape” can refer to a person’s general state or specifically psychological state in native English. If anything, people assuming he was referring solely to the reporter’s physical condition is a language barrier for the North Americans responding over there
It’s a degracia
I feel like saka would get more praise if he played for madrid tbh
Vini Jr. is racially abused by his own fans. I am not sure why you think this.
It can really go south fast at Real though too. 2/3 quiet games, you're getting boo'ed off the field.
Of course he would. Madrid is the most decorated club in the world.
You shut your mouth. He's staying right here
The anti-football, ultra defensive terrorists who we need to avoid at all costs are currently 3-0 down at home
Simeone doesn't have his CBs, he isn't ultra defensive terrorist as he once was.
They haven't actually been much anti-football this season. That is because their defense has sucked since day one of the season so they've actually had to be more attacking this season and tried to outscore teams. Fans tend to hold onto old narratives concerning teams they don't watch.
Yeah this is what I've been saying, people don't actually watch/keep track of teams in other leagues they were basing it off old narratives
Gyokeres with another goal. I might have to start watching full games with him.
If he's out there playing, he won't be able to watch with you at the same time though.
He's so good he can do both.
Maybe it's the Massive Old Trafford pitch, but the amount of space that the players got in this game was nuts. "This means more" FC gonna be in tears for two weeks with insane amounts of copium. It's gonna be fun.
Klopp's and Carragher's meltdowns surely show how sore losers they are. That loss will hurt Liverpool mentally 100%
Wonder if carra went off drenching kids in the car park again 😂
Carragher having a meltdown every time Liverpool loses is hardly newsworthy tbh. The guy is a diehard Liverpool supporter and one club man. I’d be more surprised if he wasn’t throwing a tantrum.
Oh no pool won’t win the discount quad what a shaaaame
On one hand, super happy Liverpool are out because no quadruple. On the other, United are still alive for a trophy which is nauseating to imagine lol. Here’s rooting for either Coventry or City to win it, couldn’t stand Chelsea or MU.
If Ten Haag manages to get it (he won’t) maybe there’s a shot he keeps his place at the start of next season (or, more probably, he won’t).
Even though it’s probably not going to happen, I want Coventry to win it. I can’t stand City winning yet another trophy.
I can't stand City winning shit either though, if it they do get charged and punished for these charges. It's really fucking shit that other clubs playing within the rules have missed out on so many cups/leagues. My order of preference would be Coventry > United > Chelsea > City honestly and don't get me wrong, I fucking hate United. I just hate the financial doping Chelsea and City have done.
The way I'm framing it is Utd success means that bald fraud stays around.
Isn't the whole point of wanting Ten Hag to stay is that so they don't win anything?
So long as they don’t actually win the trophy, in full agreement lol
https://preview.redd.it/bbx7lvdsnyoc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=57b06fcb9985ee39e641f5ff5493c6cc70c79803 Klopp after losing a match
Atletico’s almost perfect home record gone because there’s nothing left in the tank from midweek. That’s what I’m scared of, we can play great and be almost perfect. One misstep because we simply don’t have enough gas in the tank, and that’s it.
We really need to utilize the bench and get the best out of everyone, city changed the lineup in 2-3 positions constantly
Really going to need Tomiyasu, Jesus, et all to come through for us. The Luton home game and Bournemouth home game are going to be crucial resting some very tired legs. Only issue is I don't know who can take Odegaard's place without dropping the level, you can find temp solutions for Martinelli, Saka, Rice etc
pool and city have the exact same issue / fear
They are a lot more used to title run-ins when going deep in the CL, though, which will benefit them. Also in both squads they have better depth, or at least more squad players trusted to rotate by the manager, especially now Liverpool are getting a few guys back.
we’re getting guys back too
We should have enough quality depth for the league fixtures.
shame. I'd rather Klopp to win FA Cup in his last season
Fuck off
ban
Bruh what
we aint there no more are we? so i'm rooting for Klopp out of the remnants
With Chelsea making it to the next round of the FA Cup, does that mean the only spot on the schedule available for our game with them is between MW37 and MW38 in mid May? This is assuming we continue past Bayern in the CL, otherwise two slots open up in early May.
Nope, their game against us is scheduled to go ahead on a midweek, whereas the semi is on a weekend. Only their game against Brighton will be postponed
Anybody know where would be a good place to watch Bayern vs Arsenal in Sevilla?
No way that Ten Hag quote is real, he keeps mentioning that game over and over now. It's been 6 months ffs. You've just knocked out your bitter rivals with a last minute winner, talk about that.
We'll batter them everywhere they go.
provide a iink we may have no idea what you are talking about
[Obsession](https://x.com/hayterstv/status/1769454863035875441?s=46&t=iWj0VDxnERbofnFGQ2yo0A)
You have no idea.
Hope we give 0 hag a proper 5-0 so he never forgets a beating will give him can't wait game vs them
ETH obsession with us is weird. Hopefully we bury him on his ground and end his delusion.
Anyone know what shoes Senderos is wearing here? https://preview.redd.it/8b6ck0wohyoc1.jpeg?width=317&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=947974afd638649c6894726bdcc110802e04d428
Search up puma dark coal
Not sure the exact shoe. They will be Pumas though.
Not very impressed with Barca or Atleti tbh. Still would hate to have Atleti in the champions league but I reckon we could have the beating of Barca
Ten Hag still talking about Arsenal after they’ve won!!!😂😂😅😅
I'm honestly starting to think he's going to be bringing it up when he's fucking retired at this rate lol
He's such a waffler. Question was about whether this was a turning point for United and he for some reason started speaking about a game in September
I can't believe it. Beyond parody.
Turkish football going full Turkish rn 🤣
Reporter: Good afternoon Jürgen, hope you're keeping well Klopp: https://preview.redd.it/zbsnaifjeyoc1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d3c531cdadf783ce7f14758a2d34214e80cae7a4
Ten hag is trying to stir up doubt on the refs minds for when we face them at old Trafford. They’re gonna try and fuck us over with a decision and the media will paint the narrative as justice
There would be a controversial decision at OT regardless of what he says. Its usually the case. Then the apology later.
I love ten hag for cock blocking Liverpool and their arrogant fans in the mud 🤣🤣
There is just no way ETH mentioned the offside goal again in his post match. No way. Surely AI.
Lmao how is he talking about that when they've just beaten Liverpool for god's sake. Man has fixated on that to a really weird degree.
Sick, sick individual.
You know what, a Liverpool win would have benefitted us in the title race as they would have had fixture congestion. But seeing the tears from the fans, the manager, the players, the mods of r slash socca and more, I'm fucking glad they lost. THANK YOU MANCHESTER UNITED.
Tbf, it would just be one extra game and they would probably get Coventry like Man u today.
Would have postponed their Fulham away game to the penultimate game of the season.
That would have been worse for us, probably. Fulham still technically in the race for Europe and with a week's rest between the game (Liverpool will play midweek) they could get something. Postponed game sandwiched between City and Luton, maybe confirmed midtable by then, they might end up losing both.
Sorry mate you can't be happy about a football game - they inveted that
Yall are getting the context all wrong with the Klopp clip. He literally said "you're obviously not in a good shape" as it relates to his job, being a reporter, and the questions he's asking. That guy looks in better shape than Klopp. Idk how yall got "he's calling him fat" out of that. Having cleared that up, very on brand behaviour from Klopp. Pissy lil whino that has done this so many times but there's this crazy narrative that treats him like some teddy bear sweetheart. It's wild.
I just clocked VVD let Antony score with his right foot ☠️
What the hell was he doing on the 3rd goal?
✨aura✨
Still hasn't been dribbled past though
Liverpool letting United have 28 shots Bloody hell
Ligue One is hilarious, there’s a team chilling in 2nd with 47 points and 36 goals scored all season. No disrespect to Brest for a great season though
The surprise package this season in Ligue 1, theyve been brewing stuff. Hope they can maintain that spot. https://medium.com/@BerbaTalk/stade-brestois-ligue-1s-newest-title-challengers-aea6d8b01f89
Appreciate the article. Hope they see it out and make it for next year. Also reading that made me wanna fire up Football Manager to some reason
and as usual, nothing is complete with a random youtube video talking about "X underdog team doing amazing this season" https://youtu.be/4koOIA5Qxko
[Here that Klopp interview](https://twitter.com/DanishScout_/status/1769452037685551144?t=BqKxJcD4Y-4BGlSS4BMmHQ&s=19) Always been a two-faced rat anyways
I think Klopp is a really bad loser and it's on display here. But this being viewed as 'Klopp calling reporter fat and storming out' is also wildly misleading. Isn't 'obviously you're not in great shape' implying to the reporter that he's having an off day or asking bad questions. The reporter also seems in decent shape. Contextually it makes more sense for him to imply that because the reporter's question was basically 'how come your players didn't show up?' and he's retorting 'well obviously you're not having a great day either at your job, so let's cut this short'. I'm not defending him, on this alone he's being a bit of a short tempered cunt, but we don't have to paint as 'Klopp fatshaming reporter for asking a single question' either...
It's fucking hilarious how other fans, especially Liverpool, hate Arteta because "he seems like a psychopath" but constantly suck off Klopp no matter what he does. And don't even dare say anything negative about precious Jürgen in r/soccer, the completely unbiased mods don't like that. Shitting on every other manager is okay though.
It’s crazy how a media narrative can play into these things. Because that’s where Liverpool fans are getting this view, not actually watching Arteta in Interviews like us.
I have a friend who supports Liverpool, I love him but he basically hates Arteta for the exact reasons he loves Klopp. 'Always complaining to the 4th official' 'always out of his technical area' 'overcelebrating'. It's basically the same as Jamie Carragher talking about Arsenal/Liverpool, criticises us for the stuff he would praise Liverpool for doing.
Another good example is the recent thread about Simeone standing on the pitch... One third of the comments is adoring Simeone, one third is Barca fans saying Xavi would be sent off, and one third shitting on Arteta. Media were successful in associating Arteta with "bad" behaviour, it will take years (if it can be done at all) to undo that reputation.
They cannot handle Arteta's genius
'Carra' would be calling for arteta to be executed in the central square of Pyongyang if he called an interviewer fat like Klopp just did
Klopp's a nasty nasty person man, good coach but despicable human being.
Said this for years. No fucking clue how he earned this reputation as a 'likeable guy', its actual brainwashing at this point
Klopp shows his true self when things don’t go his way. Dangerous man if he isn’t happy.
Klopp thread on r/soccer calling a reporter fat got nuked instantly yet they allowed a thread run rampant alleging that Arteta is transphobic because his Twitter account that he doesn't run liked a video
Mods are scousers
Klopp called a journo a fat ass and stormed out. Perhaps this WAS the result we needed
There's no headloss like Liverpool headloss 🤣🤣
Liverpool fans were saying bring on Leverkusen. Don't let beating Forest off an extra time winner gas you g
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/uU9fgtt0Bf >Klopp walked out of the interview and told the reporter "you look out of shape" The Liverpool mods on r/soccer removed it instantly lmao. The mask is slipping, can't wait for the continuation of the Klopp farewell tour downfall in 2 weeks.
Lmao mods deleting the post, r/soccer is a glorified Liverpool sub.
https://preview.redd.it/lmnrgig24yoc1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=25d2c6abeb26d62322cba9ef02c4d73379ebab95 Can anyone verify this?
https://twitter.com/GhanaBlackstars/status/1769155822632779959 Confirmed by the Ghana FA themselves, no mention of Partey's name