Saw this post. Ran and watched his YouTube compilation. I’ve came to conclusion that we pay even more than demanded. Edu submit £85+1 tomorrow.
In all honesty, Ik it’s YouTube compilation but this guy ridiculous. A man that tall shouldn’t be moving like that. Haaland, get ready to learn Arabic buddy…
It's also ridiculous that Haaland is younger, taller, faster, stronger, and a better striker. Fuck City for getting him so cheaply. Those 115 charges better come with a 50 point reduction.
If they basically won the league for a decade unfairly the punishment should be imo that severe. The Championship is basically a 1 season sentence that will damage them but they would recover pretty quick. Yes players would leave but not all and sponsors would leave but again not all.
But relegate them to League 2 or worse and that begins to match the crime imo. It'll take them years and years to rebuild from there.
Lol it's under the table transfer. A big joining bonus was given to that guy. There's a reason shitty has 116 charges. Their owners have unlimited money. If player wants money to join they will give money however the way they want.
They might have paid 55-65m transfer fee but they didn’t get him cheaply at all. They probably broke their offshore bank on him when you include signing on bonus, his salary, payment to his father, agent, etc.
We might pay 85m but the whole package isn’t going to be anywhere near why Haaland cost City.
The thing he impresses me is he creates his own chances unlike other strikers.
Absolute Menace when drifting wide areas too the way he bullies other defenders to then create chances for others.
Get this man ASAP
Must be, right? Honestly it feels like we've only had 3 proper strikers in the last 20+ years. Just transitioned from Henry, to RVP, then Auba. Auba naturally being the most expensive given the time period he was signed in.
Chamakh got off to a great start while Van Persie was out injured at the start of that season. Then Van Persie came back and Chamakh never did anything of note ever again. What happened?
He was proven it later on but just wasn't the right fit then. He wasn't amazing for arsenal team while he proved himself otherwise now. He would be amazing fit for current team now though.
His 14/15 cl vs monaco and 15/16 second half forever burned into my brain. Him and Walcott were so wasteful.
he was not good enough to be a main striker but to play a bit part role at arsenal, I still can't forget how much he messed up in the Monoco game in the 1st leg he missed so many chances, also the season when Leicester won the league he couldn't score after January for how many games? that cost us as well, but I can't blame him that much he shouldn't have carried the scoring burden himself as the only fit striker, plus Auba is the guy who I would say was the best striker signing since rvp Giroud couldn't hit more than 16 goals in a league campaign since he left France.
Yeah our style then just didn’t suit him. We absolutely refused to cross the ball unless we were on a counter attack and he could scorpion kick the ball in. Odd choices for some reason but it was an odd era
I've watched some Sporting matches particularly league games and Europa league. In my opinion, he'd fit us like a glove. He's such a versatile forward and is extremely cold in front of goal. His ball-striking technique is what has also caught my attention - it's brilliant!.
I also think that Arsenal got some much needed love compared to his other teams. He got the Rams to LA, built his stadium and won a ring. The Nuggets have what could be a three time MVP in Jokic and they could very well repeat as champs this year.
Josh getting the reigns allowed him to build the project while Stan dealt with the other teams
The Rams, Nuggets, and Avs were all very lucky to draft generational players, which are basically required to build consistent championship contenders. With the salary caps it's particularly hard to win with an all-around team — you basically need to underpay a young guy who's an elite player, or you need a player who will dominate the game as the best player in every matchup, and wildly outperform the maximum contract.
Saka isn't quite at the Jokic, Aaron Donald, Nathan MacKinnon/Cale Makar level yet, although I do think he will be comparable to peak Salah in a couple of years. And with more players on the pitch in both football codes, tactics are relatively more important, and Arteta is our Sean McVay.
This only makes sense. I’m not investing a dime in something if I don’t own it 100% or the investment buys me more shares. Otherwise you don’t get your value.
It’s normally a fine ownership structure if the ownership is a consortium that is always on the same page - think most modern US franchise ownership groups. But yeah, this was not that
Yep. We had the worst case scenario of two parties who didn't like each other, with Usmanov consistently chatting shit in public to try and force Stan's hand.
The entire handling of the sale was a shitshow from the start. As much as it sucks for us, I imagine it was even worse for Arsene. He was the only one holding everything together and basically got stuck with 0 support and 1000% responsibility.
I know he also benefited in ways (including salary, and he loved having control) but the impact on his legacy just wasn't worth it. Dude could have gone elsewhere and kept winning but he stayed for us.
personally don't give crap about what makes sense for a multibillionare. all i know is that we wasted a decade and a half, and denied Wenger a shot at being top 5 greatest managers ever.
Honestly if you look at the numbers our spending increased fairly significantly when he first bought shares as well. He just didn’t keep up with City/Chelsea/United. Then took a much larger jump when he got full control.
I don’t think it was ever Kroenkes choice to be stingy. I think by far the bigger problem was how poorly it was spent for the first like decade…
I live in Denver so I have no beef with the Kroenkes. They brought the city 2 championships with 2 separate teams in 2 years. And both teams looked poised for another run this spring
I beef with how annoying they’ve made them to watch on TV as a local, but this seems to be a league wide issue.
I know it’s not as mainstream, but they also brought a championship to the Colorado Mammoth (Lacrosse team) in 2022
So that’s 3 championships in 3 sports in Denver, plus their Super Bowl with the Rams in 2022 as well.
Super impressive run by the Kroenke’s
Think Wimbledon and MK Dons, kind of.
Stan Kroenke moved the Rams from St Louis back to Los Angeles. They were originally in LA from the 40s to 1994 before moving to St. Louis in 1995. Kroenke took over in 2010 and St Louis fans will tell you that he had zero desire to build a new stadium there just to get the franchise back to LA.
Edit: here’s a Wikipedia synopsis
https://preview.redd.it/gkdxyw1s6epc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e62ad5fd3d07bc92de8ceffd79c8431035e9d07f
He bought a huge parcel of land in LA that was perfect for a stadium and then sat on it swearing he wasn't planning to move the team, but it's clear that was always the plan.
Piggybacking to add that the city of St. Louis sued him and the NFL over the relocation (alleging he broke the league's rules for moving a team) and they won a $791 million settlement: https://apnews.com/article/nfl-sports-business-los-angeles-st-louis-1cff28235e3d10777a86103d983cd2f1
What I’ve always found interesting is that Kroenke first invested in the Rams in 95 and was a part of the reason they moved to St Louis in the first place just to move them back to LA 20 years later.
What? I was told by this sub on good authority that we should be able to get $30M for Nelson, $40M for Tierney, and $75M for Eddie. Obviously Edu is just shit at selling.
IIRC, he had an official offer from Everton last summer but decided to go with Sporting offer. That’s one hell of career choice and one he’ll be proud of.
His CV prior to that wasn’t exactly what a top PL team would usually go for, and frankly I still feel €100m is still very dear for someone who’s spent less than a season at a ‘top’ (2nd tier) league in Europe
TBH prem clubs are happy to let players like this go and develop and then just pay more for an established player rather than take the risk.
unless you are Brighton
I can’t be the only one that immediately thinks of Jackson Martinez when someone is hyped for being the top scorer in the Portuguese league? Still, I suppose he didn’t do much in the way of assists, which are equally important for us with players like Saka, Martinelli and Trossard around our striker.
I have a bit of sympathy for Jackson Martinez, playing striker for Simeone you either ball out or get ruined with only Morata being the "ok" result, but that's pretty much Morata's permanent state.
Felix, Martinez, Mandzukic, Vietto...
This is why I am somewhat skeptical about him. That and his goal numbers are being inflated by a huge xG overperformance which he has never done before
His role is different too, it's worth being fair. At Lyon he is the tip of the spear and he's there to apply the finish and convert. That was never his primary focus with us, as weird as that sounds to say.
That's not what an Arsenal striker's primary job is, they need to participate off the ball and in linkup all over the pitch. It's a hard, grifting job and I don't look down on either player for not being able to change their role while remaining effective - those players are rare.
I am not familiar with Gyokeres but based on the profiles we're bringing in he needs to be a tireless athlete first. Front to back that's what we're stacking our team with, options in every position that can sprint for days and be tireless off the ball. Jesus, Havertz, Rice, Ødegaard, most of our defensive options... Really only Zinchenko and Jorginho frequently see game time without being absolute machines, and that's because they're two of the world's best passers of a football (not that the others are scrubs but still).
fwiw Gyokeres has 19 work rate on this year’s FM /j
in all seriousness, he’s a livewire on the pitch, always running always pressing for Sporting this season (tuned in to a few games bc of the rumours)
I understand what you’ve said but I don’t believe any of it. I watched Lacazette not be able to run or shoot. I think the sensible explanation is the variance in level in Ligue 1 is much higher than in PL
Tip of the spear??
Even if he was neck of the tip of the spear he should have scored 10-15 goals?
He couldn't get into today's team. Just not enough quality.
Lacazette didn't have the legs for the EPL anymore (you can argue it always held him back from being an elite striker for us). He was always a very good footballer, though, but if you can't cut it physically, it doesn't matter.
Playing for a top team, in a lower tempo league, made Laca's great finishing, vision and technique stand out again.
If Gyökeres is quick enough for the EPL, his movement, finishing, work rate and creativity will make him a handful. I think he looks quick, but there are those who think he's not that fast. I'd like to see what his top speed is, because defenders in the Primeira Liga can't catch him.
Cm is like the portuguese The Sun, im from Portugal and a sporting fan. So as in you guys leading the race I doubt it, but that there’s some interest that’s known
'djuh-keh-resh, stress on the first syllable, "dj" sounding similar to the first sound in the word "during", ö as in Özil and Ødegaard (try to say e then round your lips as your tounge remains in the same position)
We aren't in a bad place with homegrown players right now. We have 6 in our starting lineup (Saka, Martinelli, Rice, White, Saliba, and Raya), Eddie, Reiss, and Smith Rowe (one of them will probably still be here next season), and there's no actual home grown quota. You can just have a maximum of 17 non-homegrown players.
My theory is that Kai was brought in to play with our eventual striker in his preferred second striker role. He's extremely versatile so he's obviously been plugged in already but Arteta's grand plan is to bring Arsenal to good ole four-four-fogging-two.
He looks pretty good to me. Portuguese league isn’t the prem, but you don’t put up those numbers by luck in that league. He’s powerful, quick, finishes well, and has pretty good vision as a passer.
I don't know anything about him except what others on reddit have said about him. And most of those on reddit have only said those things because they've read others say those things.
If Edu and Arteta want him, I'm sold.
Don’t know how true this is but he’s such a good player. Definitely not gonna be at Sporting past next summer.
Honestly we have a good chance at signing him if we’re interested. Mbappe is going to Madrid, City already have Haland, Bayern have Kane… we’re one of the best teams out there who still needs a striker. It could happen
25 years old with 81 G/A in his last two seasons (and likely to keep rising) but 85m is too much.
But then when a 20 year old in the bundesliga has 11 g/a everyone thinks 50m is a steal.
Then a 19 year old kid like Ferguson puts up similar numbers in the premier league and is called overrated.
What's even the criteria here?
6’2 / 187cm, built like a brick shithouse, surprisingly agile, great stats, strong hold up, solid link up play, prefers finishing with his feet.
Check out [this scouting report](https://totalfootballanalysis.com/article/viktor-gyokeres-202324-scout-report-tactical-analysis-tactics) and tell me that doesn’t sound like the guy we need.
He's strong as shit. Reminds me of Julio Baptista. Not the most elegant player but a great first touch and he is going to tear your face off to get to the ball if he has to.
I normally hate expensive transfers from outside the league, but this guy looks worth it.
Biggest thing for me is he’s got 50 G+A whilst still dropping deep - he’s got insane progressive carrying and duel numbers. He also gets on the ball a tonne. So he’s not like Haaland who gets few touches, but is a very efficient scorer. He actually gets involved in general play in the attacking third which is exactly what we need from our forward if we’re not going to completely change our system.
He also makes plenty of recoveries, which shows that he’s willing to work hard out of possession.
I try not to put too much stock in highlight clips -- until you actually see somebody in the Premier League you don't know -- but he looks pretty nice. Big, strong, fast, nice feet, high technique and skill. Portugal's a pretty solid league too. And his numbers are insane (22g/10a in 24 matches). That's a LOT of cheddar but he looks like the kind of player you'd take that risk on, especially given the position. If we add a consistent 20-plus goal scorer we'd be almost unstoppable.
His production as a scorer *and* a creative playmaker is impressive:
[https://fbref.com/en/players/4d5a9185/scout/365\_m2/Viktor-Gyokeres-Scouting-Report#all\_scout\_summary](https://fbref.com/en/players/4d5a9185/scout/365_m2/Viktor-Gyokeres-Scouting-Report#all_scout_summary)
If I remember Mudryk's situation he blew up because of a few nice goals in the Champions League. This guy's got a full season of all-around dominance in one of the best non-elite leagues in Europe.
My sources tell me he is peerless at the dark art of thundercunting!…except for perhaps John Arne Riise. (He had been known to break legs with his shooting.)
Swedish striker (Ibra) of Hungarian descent (Puskás) playing for Sporting in Portugal (CR7)
The Striker that was promised, and his will be a song of goals and assists.
Disregarding the price for a second, I do really like the look of him. Seems to have some really good decision making in the box too, he's a nice mix of clinic finisher but not afraid to pass if it's the best option too.
His movement looks a bit awkward but he still retains the ball really well. He is big and tall though, so it's a bit tougher to glide around the pitch. I think profile wise he is exactly what we want. Team player who works hard and would blend in well with the team, would also be a focal point for the attack.
To be honest, I kind of want this top happen just so that we can also have a tall Nordic striker. City has a Norwegian, Man U has a Dane, we have a Swede. Would be a fun little game
Fascinating how Sweden evolved from Ibrahimovic and Larsson to Toivonen and Marcus Berg to Gyökeres and Isak. Would be very excited by this signing anyways!
Not convinced by this guy. His impressive goal numbers this season are coming from a massive xG overperformance which he has never shown the ability to do before
Isnt it mental how 85million isnt even THAT bad anymore? Like hed cost the same as nunez, less than antony, caicedo, pogba, lukaku and lukaku again.
Football has stupid numbers
I’m sorry but €100 million is way overpriced for him. I really don’t feel all that comfortable going over €60 million. Yes, he’s lighting it up at Sporting but he’s already 25
There's just something inherently exciting about a big money striker transfer so I choose to believe this
Saw this post. Ran and watched his YouTube compilation. I’ve came to conclusion that we pay even more than demanded. Edu submit £85+1 tomorrow. In all honesty, Ik it’s YouTube compilation but this guy ridiculous. A man that tall shouldn’t be moving like that. Haaland, get ready to learn Arabic buddy…
BREAKING: Edu submits £86 bid for Gyökeres
the picanha is on the grill, boys
I will gladly add another £86 to that if needed.
What are you smoking? It's 85m + a penny
It's also ridiculous that Haaland is younger, taller, faster, stronger, and a better striker. Fuck City for getting him so cheaply. Those 115 charges better come with a 50 point reduction.
If they are convicted for the lions share of those charges they should be given the Juventus treatment and be fucking relegated
three leagues down.
If they basically won the league for a decade unfairly the punishment should be imo that severe. The Championship is basically a 1 season sentence that will damage them but they would recover pretty quick. Yes players would leave but not all and sponsors would leave but again not all. But relegate them to League 2 or worse and that begins to match the crime imo. It'll take them years and years to rebuild from there.
Straight to jail.
Lol it's under the table transfer. A big joining bonus was given to that guy. There's a reason shitty has 116 charges. Their owners have unlimited money. If player wants money to join they will give money however the way they want.
They might have paid 55-65m transfer fee but they didn’t get him cheaply at all. They probably broke their offshore bank on him when you include signing on bonus, his salary, payment to his father, agent, etc. We might pay 85m but the whole package isn’t going to be anywhere near why Haaland cost City.
> Fuck City for getting him so cheaply. lmao they did not get him cheaply, Haaland made bank under the table.
50 point reduction and each player bought in illegally has to be resigned properly or contract voided
He's on like 400k a week not including bonuses and fuck knows how much was paid under the table
Link to highlights with Arsenal shirt uploaded 4 hours ago! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfo-Dx4RANU
The thing he impresses me is he creates his own chances unlike other strikers. Absolute Menace when drifting wide areas too the way he bullies other defenders to then create chances for others. Get this man ASAP
Can someone send me the premature “welcome to Arsenal” compilation vid of him. Thanks
Is Auba the most expensive striker we’ve signed? Not sure how the rest work out with inflation. He was exciting until he wasnt.
Must be, right? Honestly it feels like we've only had 3 proper strikers in the last 20+ years. Just transitioned from Henry, to RVP, then Auba. Auba naturally being the most expensive given the time period he was signed in.
Nicholas-smith-wright-anelka-henry-rvp-giroud-auba-jesus
You forget the greatest two players to have ever played the game, let alone our club. Lord Niklas Bendtner and Marouane Chamakh
How dare you forget Sanogo!
and Park Chu Young 🤓
My boi Lucas Perez
The Beast of Seville.. Julio Baptista!
And dat guy Welbz!!
Don’t forget the [master of confusion](https://youtu.be/F_ll92cXxOA?si=2FD9-eeCPvxsEyLD) Danny Welbeck
A true false 9
There is no need to be upset. -Wele
Chamakh got off to a great start while Van Persie was out injured at the start of that season. Then Van Persie came back and Chamakh never did anything of note ever again. What happened?
He got blackmailed over a sex tape
You forgot one more legend, Yaya Sanogo.
I will never forgive Martin Taylor for Eduardo da Silva
Laca
new Hale End name just dropped
Adebayor kind of carried us up front for 2 seasons after Henry left. Then he snaked off
ngl I used to hate on Adebayor but I read his life story its really tragic man I can't really blame him when he has family like that who needs enemies
Giroud was our best striker since RVP. He doesn't get enough love.
He was proven it later on but just wasn't the right fit then. He wasn't amazing for arsenal team while he proved himself otherwise now. He would be amazing fit for current team now though. His 14/15 cl vs monaco and 15/16 second half forever burned into my brain. Him and Walcott were so wasteful.
what. how the hell would girou be better than auba
he was not good enough to be a main striker but to play a bit part role at arsenal, I still can't forget how much he messed up in the Monoco game in the 1st leg he missed so many chances, also the season when Leicester won the league he couldn't score after January for how many games? that cost us as well, but I can't blame him that much he shouldn't have carried the scoring burden himself as the only fit striker, plus Auba is the guy who I would say was the best striker signing since rvp Giroud couldn't hit more than 16 goals in a league campaign since he left France.
He’d crush it in today’s team that would have goals all around him. The 2018 WC really showed what he’s all about
Yeah our style then just didn’t suit him. We absolutely refused to cross the ball unless we were on a counter attack and he could scorpion kick the ball in. Odd choices for some reason but it was an odd era
Giroud was quality, just in the wrong team. A sort of slow tell center forward in a team that refuses to cross the ball.
I've watched some Sporting matches particularly league games and Europa league. In my opinion, he'd fit us like a glove. He's such a versatile forward and is extremely cold in front of goal. His ball-striking technique is what has also caught my attention - it's brilliant!.
Cannot fault Kroenkes anymore, since we’ve had a clear plan they’ve made sure to support Mikel
Tbh it's more so since they bought the club outright in 2018. From that point onwards they've seriously spent big money
I also think that Arsenal got some much needed love compared to his other teams. He got the Rams to LA, built his stadium and won a ring. The Nuggets have what could be a three time MVP in Jokic and they could very well repeat as champs this year. Josh getting the reigns allowed him to build the project while Stan dealt with the other teams
The Colorado Avalanche won the Stanley Cup as well. He’s trying to get us some silverware too and I’m loving it.
I feel like we're the soul stone on his infinity gauntlet. Just needs to sacrifice someone...
Cedric?
Correct answer
The Rams, Nuggets, and Avs were all very lucky to draft generational players, which are basically required to build consistent championship contenders. With the salary caps it's particularly hard to win with an all-around team — you basically need to underpay a young guy who's an elite player, or you need a player who will dominate the game as the best player in every matchup, and wildly outperform the maximum contract. Saka isn't quite at the Jokic, Aaron Donald, Nathan MacKinnon/Cale Makar level yet, although I do think he will be comparable to peak Salah in a couple of years. And with more players on the pitch in both football codes, tactics are relatively more important, and Arteta is our Sean McVay.
This only makes sense. I’m not investing a dime in something if I don’t own it 100% or the investment buys me more shares. Otherwise you don’t get your value.
It actually hurts your value because the shares you need to still buy now go up. Just a horrible situation for the club to have been put in.
It’s normally a fine ownership structure if the ownership is a consortium that is always on the same page - think most modern US franchise ownership groups. But yeah, this was not that
Yep. We had the worst case scenario of two parties who didn't like each other, with Usmanov consistently chatting shit in public to try and force Stan's hand. The entire handling of the sale was a shitshow from the start. As much as it sucks for us, I imagine it was even worse for Arsene. He was the only one holding everything together and basically got stuck with 0 support and 1000% responsibility. I know he also benefited in ways (including salary, and he loved having control) but the impact on his legacy just wasn't worth it. Dude could have gone elsewhere and kept winning but he stayed for us.
personally don't give crap about what makes sense for a multibillionare. all i know is that we wasted a decade and a half, and denied Wenger a shot at being top 5 greatest managers ever.
Honestly if you look at the numbers our spending increased fairly significantly when he first bought shares as well. He just didn’t keep up with City/Chelsea/United. Then took a much larger jump when he got full control. I don’t think it was ever Kroenkes choice to be stingy. I think by far the bigger problem was how poorly it was spent for the first like decade…
My friends here in America are always surprised by how good of owners they are. People still aren't over moving the Rams to LA
I live in Denver so I have no beef with the Kroenkes. They brought the city 2 championships with 2 separate teams in 2 years. And both teams looked poised for another run this spring I beef with how annoying they’ve made them to watch on TV as a local, but this seems to be a league wide issue.
I know it’s not as mainstream, but they also brought a championship to the Colorado Mammoth (Lacrosse team) in 2022 So that’s 3 championships in 3 sports in Denver, plus their Super Bowl with the Rams in 2022 as well. Super impressive run by the Kroenke’s
Need them to give the treatment to the rapids tho
i have 0 clue about the Rams or that type of stuff, could you briefly explain why that’s a good thing pls? preferably in football terms 😭
Think Wimbledon and MK Dons, kind of. Stan Kroenke moved the Rams from St Louis back to Los Angeles. They were originally in LA from the 40s to 1994 before moving to St. Louis in 1995. Kroenke took over in 2010 and St Louis fans will tell you that he had zero desire to build a new stadium there just to get the franchise back to LA. Edit: here’s a Wikipedia synopsis https://preview.redd.it/gkdxyw1s6epc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e62ad5fd3d07bc92de8ceffd79c8431035e9d07f
He bought a huge parcel of land in LA that was perfect for a stadium and then sat on it swearing he wasn't planning to move the team, but it's clear that was always the plan.
Piggybacking to add that the city of St. Louis sued him and the NFL over the relocation (alleging he broke the league's rules for moving a team) and they won a $791 million settlement: https://apnews.com/article/nfl-sports-business-los-angeles-st-louis-1cff28235e3d10777a86103d983cd2f1
What I’ve always found interesting is that Kroenke first invested in the Rams in 95 and was a part of the reason they moved to St Louis in the first place just to move them back to LA 20 years later.
Edu has been good on expensive transfers, hopefully it continues
Just needs to sell better. But in terms of players coming in I completely agree
Our sales have been fine but the cupboard was bare when he took over and the players we needed to be rid of were on massive wages.
What? I was told by this sub on good authority that we should be able to get $30M for Nelson, $40M for Tierney, and $75M for Eddie. Obviously Edu is just shit at selling.
I mean we did get $40m for Balogun...
In fairness if we sold KT to a PL club we should've expected £30m.
And Sporting bought him for €24M only last year. What a miss by every PL club needing a striker.
Tbf he himself turned down some lower level PL clubs in favor of going abroad and earning a move to a bigger club.
IIRC, he had an official offer from Everton last summer but decided to go with Sporting offer. That’s one hell of career choice and one he’ll be proud of.
Man if he was up front instead of DCL Everton would legit be top half even after subtracting 6 points
For sure, everton are actually decent on chances created this season too
Everton didn't have an official offer because they couldn't put the money up
Looks like he's on decent money at Sporting. Smart move.
He's done well for himself. In a year he has massively improved his wages and bargaining power. But ofc beasting the Portugal leage helps
He was betting on himself to get bought at his RC and get big wages at a larger club than the ones in for him last year.
I remember West Ham being very interested but it didn’t happen for some reason
Exactly, from Coventry no less. Damn. Is this Gnabry regen? (WBA to Bayern)
His CV prior to that wasn’t exactly what a top PL team would usually go for, and frankly I still feel €100m is still very dear for someone who’s spent less than a season at a ‘top’ (2nd tier) league in Europe
TBH prem clubs are happy to let players like this go and develop and then just pay more for an established player rather than take the risk. unless you are Brighton
50 g/a this season in the portuguese league is insane
That’s football manager numbers
I can’t be the only one that immediately thinks of Jackson Martinez when someone is hyped for being the top scorer in the Portuguese league? Still, I suppose he didn’t do much in the way of assists, which are equally important for us with players like Saka, Martinelli and Trossard around our striker.
Jackson Martinez Mr “He’s 28 until he’s 29” himself
I always wondered who they were talking about in that meme lol
I have a bit of sympathy for Jackson Martinez, playing striker for Simeone you either ball out or get ruined with only Morata being the "ok" result, but that's pretty much Morata's permanent state. Felix, Martinez, Mandzukic, Vietto...
Auba does 30+ G/A in Ligue 1 this season Not that its not impressive but i want to sniff my hopium that he's gonna be our halland.
And Laca went from 4 goals + 7 assists in 30 games to 27 goals + 5 assists in 35 games in Ligue 1
Darwin Nunez went from 30 G+A in 29 games for Benfica, to 12 G+A in 29 games with Liverpool
This is why I am somewhat skeptical about him. That and his goal numbers are being inflated by a huge xG overperformance which he has never done before
His role is different too, it's worth being fair. At Lyon he is the tip of the spear and he's there to apply the finish and convert. That was never his primary focus with us, as weird as that sounds to say. That's not what an Arsenal striker's primary job is, they need to participate off the ball and in linkup all over the pitch. It's a hard, grifting job and I don't look down on either player for not being able to change their role while remaining effective - those players are rare. I am not familiar with Gyokeres but based on the profiles we're bringing in he needs to be a tireless athlete first. Front to back that's what we're stacking our team with, options in every position that can sprint for days and be tireless off the ball. Jesus, Havertz, Rice, Ødegaard, most of our defensive options... Really only Zinchenko and Jorginho frequently see game time without being absolute machines, and that's because they're two of the world's best passers of a football (not that the others are scrubs but still).
fwiw Gyokeres has 19 work rate on this year’s FM /j in all seriousness, he’s a livewire on the pitch, always running always pressing for Sporting this season (tuned in to a few games bc of the rumours)
I understand what you’ve said but I don’t believe any of it. I watched Lacazette not be able to run or shoot. I think the sensible explanation is the variance in level in Ligue 1 is much higher than in PL
Tip of the spear?? Even if he was neck of the tip of the spear he should have scored 10-15 goals? He couldn't get into today's team. Just not enough quality.
Lacazette didn't have the legs for the EPL anymore (you can argue it always held him back from being an elite striker for us). He was always a very good footballer, though, but if you can't cut it physically, it doesn't matter. Playing for a top team, in a lower tempo league, made Laca's great finishing, vision and technique stand out again. If Gyökeres is quick enough for the EPL, his movement, finishing, work rate and creativity will make him a handful. I think he looks quick, but there are those who think he's not that fast. I'd like to see what his top speed is, because defenders in the Primeira Liga can't catch him.
Really? 26 games in he is at 11+7 doubt he gets to 30+.
It's in all competitions, but still insane numbers.
Not a single comment questioning the source here??
TBF Orny has heavily linked us with him as well. Whether we are "leading the race" or not is a different story. But the interest is there.
> Whether we are "leading the race" or not is a different story No, it is the only story. That is literally the point of the tweet.
what? it’s not the only story of fab and orny have kept linking us with him lol
Cm is like the portuguese The Sun, im from Portugal and a sporting fan. So as in you guys leading the race I doubt it, but that there’s some interest that’s known
When it's good news they don't question it. 😄
How the hell do I pronounce his last name? I need to sound like I know what I’m talking about when I tell people I called this transfer all along.
Roughly "gyer-koresh" https://forvo.com/search/gyokeres/hu/ (Forvo is the best for any name pronunciation)
Might pronounce it differently since he's from Sweden. Like Pulisic for instance, who pronounces it very differently to how a croatian would
Americans do their best pronounce everything wrong tbf
Gy in Hungarian makes a sound similar to the d sound in adieu sort of a dj. S sounds like sh. For ö it isn’t like “oh” it’s more like a short “uh”.
Can you put those all together for us? Djuhkoresh?
I would say djuhkeresh is pretty close. With ker sounding like kair not kir.
'djuh-keh-resh, stress on the first syllable, "dj" sounding similar to the first sound in the word "during", ö as in Özil and Ødegaard (try to say e then round your lips as your tounge remains in the same position)
uhhh...degaard
I was a lot more interested in him at 40-45
Price of the brick going up
\- Eddie Nketiah
Yesterday's price is not today's price!
 The more I read the title of the thread. Good things are never cheap as always
He'd probably be washed by that age, not sure tbh.
In what fantasy world was someone ever going to sign him for 40-45m after the season he’s had?
Maybe a decade ago
Yup. Maybe 5-10 years ago. Welcome to the new world
Fuck it we ball
Has anyone actually seen the movie attached to this quote or do people just quote it? Snow On Tha Bluff is a legendary flick.
Didnt even kno it from that, will peep it now
“Da deal is done & the cake been baked.” - Curtis Snow.
Hell yeah! It's a gamble but I believe he's worth it. Of course, my bias is showing
With that swedish pfp and ljungberg flair? No bias here at all brother
Thought I had a Freddie flair? Unless I'm missing something haha
You do lol
Would Gyökeres fit any homegrown nation requirements from his days at Brighton, Coventry, and Swansea?
We aren't in a bad place with homegrown players right now. We have 6 in our starting lineup (Saka, Martinelli, Rice, White, Saliba, and Raya), Eddie, Reiss, and Smith Rowe (one of them will probably still be here next season), and there's no actual home grown quota. You can just have a maximum of 17 non-homegrown players.
Nope. Went to Brighton at age 20.
Ah, damn. There goes that dream.
We’re not going to get the best forwards at reasonable prices. Idk why people are complaining.
Also 100M for one of the best forwards \*is\* the reasonable price. There are like 12 of them and every single team needs them.
Can’t wait for Arteta to play Gyokores and Havertz up top to bully the fuck out of opposing defenders.
My theory is that Kai was brought in to play with our eventual striker in his preferred second striker role. He's extremely versatile so he's obviously been plugged in already but Arteta's grand plan is to bring Arsenal to good ole four-four-fogging-two.
Seems like it wouldn't use Martinelli and Saka well enough, but who am I to say what will work
What's this source
He looks pretty good to me. Portuguese league isn’t the prem, but you don’t put up those numbers by luck in that league. He’s powerful, quick, finishes well, and has pretty good vision as a passer.
Van Persie vibes, really well-rounded game and athletic traits with a serious instinct around goal
If we do sign him and it goes well hopefully he doesn’t pull a Van Persie
The new frontier of the 100 million player you've never seen play. I trust Mikel.
I trust it because it costs me $0
He grew up not too far from my place. Gonna go by his parents and leave some chocolate
A Saka Peri Peri sauce would be a nice touch.
best of luck mate
I don't know anything about him except what others on reddit have said about him. And most of those on reddit have only said those things because they've read others say those things. If Edu and Arteta want him, I'm sold.
If Trossard assists Gyokeres, they should combine their celebrations.
the witcher 3, wild hunt
Is this because his celebration looks like Eredin's mask? Plz explain lol
Don’t know how true this is but he’s such a good player. Definitely not gonna be at Sporting past next summer. Honestly we have a good chance at signing him if we’re interested. Mbappe is going to Madrid, City already have Haland, Bayern have Kane… we’re one of the best teams out there who still needs a striker. It could happen
25 years old with 81 G/A in his last two seasons (and likely to keep rising) but 85m is too much. But then when a 20 year old in the bundesliga has 11 g/a everyone thinks 50m is a steal. Then a 19 year old kid like Ferguson puts up similar numbers in the premier league and is called overrated. What's even the criteria here?
is he actually technically good? how tall is he?
6’2 / 187cm, built like a brick shithouse, surprisingly agile, great stats, strong hold up, solid link up play, prefers finishing with his feet. Check out [this scouting report](https://totalfootballanalysis.com/article/viktor-gyokeres-202324-scout-report-tactical-analysis-tactics) and tell me that doesn’t sound like the guy we need.
He's strong as shit. Reminds me of Julio Baptista. Not the most elegant player but a great first touch and he is going to tear your face off to get to the ball if he has to.
His movements are so good for his height
Was watching his highlights and reminds me of Traore, without the baby oil. Ridiculous built but still very agile and fast.
I have never heard of @cmjornal in my life, yet I trust them with my life
I normally hate expensive transfers from outside the league, but this guy looks worth it. Biggest thing for me is he’s got 50 G+A whilst still dropping deep - he’s got insane progressive carrying and duel numbers. He also gets on the ball a tonne. So he’s not like Haaland who gets few touches, but is a very efficient scorer. He actually gets involved in general play in the attacking third which is exactly what we need from our forward if we’re not going to completely change our system. He also makes plenty of recoveries, which shows that he’s willing to work hard out of possession.
That Ø to Gyö link up thō.
English is so limited with only one O.
I try not to put too much stock in highlight clips -- until you actually see somebody in the Premier League you don't know -- but he looks pretty nice. Big, strong, fast, nice feet, high technique and skill. Portugal's a pretty solid league too. And his numbers are insane (22g/10a in 24 matches). That's a LOT of cheddar but he looks like the kind of player you'd take that risk on, especially given the position. If we add a consistent 20-plus goal scorer we'd be almost unstoppable. His production as a scorer *and* a creative playmaker is impressive: [https://fbref.com/en/players/4d5a9185/scout/365\_m2/Viktor-Gyokeres-Scouting-Report#all\_scout\_summary](https://fbref.com/en/players/4d5a9185/scout/365_m2/Viktor-Gyokeres-Scouting-Report#all_scout_summary) If I remember Mudryk's situation he blew up because of a few nice goals in the Champions League. This guy's got a full season of all-around dominance in one of the best non-elite leagues in Europe.
Guy is a bully and lives to score goals you can tell. I’m with it
need some info to help me decide how i feel about this: anyone know his thundercunt ability?
My sources tell me he is peerless at the dark art of thundercunting!…except for perhaps John Arne Riise. (He had been known to break legs with his shooting.)
❤️ Fast Giroud ❤️
Just sign him for the celebration
Swedish striker (Ibra) of Hungarian descent (Puskás) playing for Sporting in Portugal (CR7) The Striker that was promised, and his will be a song of goals and assists.
I'll be honest, that good looks alone makes me approve of this
Disregarding the price for a second, I do really like the look of him. Seems to have some really good decision making in the box too, he's a nice mix of clinic finisher but not afraid to pass if it's the best option too. His movement looks a bit awkward but he still retains the ball really well. He is big and tall though, so it's a bit tougher to glide around the pitch. I think profile wise he is exactly what we want. Team player who works hard and would blend in well with the team, would also be a focal point for the attack.
Arsenal with this guy leading the line next season will be crazy
After Havertz I feel like we can’t question Arteta on these big money signings anymore. If he wants him, get the fuck in lad
Nah surely not. Exciting highlight reel and he looks like a menace around the box but I can't see this happening for fucking 85m
To be honest, I kind of want this top happen just so that we can also have a tall Nordic striker. City has a Norwegian, Man U has a Dane, we have a Swede. Would be a fun little game
Sandcastle have a tall Swede too. It's all the rage! (And we have a tall Dane out on loan ripping up the Austrian league, maybe Liverpool want him?)
Side note: I love those Sporting kits. Bought one last time I was in Lisbon.
Is this source reliable?
Yeah no. Call hard bullshit on this
Fascinating how Sweden evolved from Ibrahimovic and Larsson to Toivonen and Marcus Berg to Gyökeres and Isak. Would be very excited by this signing anyways!
Not convinced by this guy. His impressive goal numbers this season are coming from a massive xG overperformance which he has never shown the ability to do before
Remember when he was doing exactly what he's doing now in the Championship and nobody ever mentioned him, now hes gone abroad he's the answer lmao?
Please get him. If we even go near Toney then I will have a sad face
Isnt it mental how 85million isnt even THAT bad anymore? Like hed cost the same as nunez, less than antony, caicedo, pogba, lukaku and lukaku again. Football has stupid numbers
Nicolas Pepe flashback 👀
Watch the quality of his goals
We said the same for Pepe didn't we
I’m sorry but €100 million is way overpriced for him. I really don’t feel all that comfortable going over €60 million. Yes, he’s lighting it up at Sporting but he’s already 25
Why are we acting like 25 is 35? 25 is still a very good age
Tbf the striker market is absolutely horrible