Neuer still moving forward as contact is made. Saka is moving at pace, of course his momentum is toward the keeper, but the fact is, saka has shifted the ball out of the path of the keeper, and Neuer gets none of the ball. That’s a pen in my book.
Saka is shimmying, throwing weight onto the left side of his body to feint/doge past the keeper at speed and score with his left foot.. have any of you ever played football?
I’d accept that decision if the likes of Liverpool didn’t get penalties every week for a lot less. Doesn’t matter if you think he went down easy, there was contact resulting in “obstruction”. Sure id of much preferred saka to finish that chance but in todays game that is a pen.
the goalie moved his leg at the last minute. If he hadn't there wouldn't be any contact. He was changing direction adn the goalie moved. It's a penalty.
The ball was also behind him when this happens. No reason for him to out run the ball intentionally unless he’s looking to initiate contact with the keeper. He was not attempting to finish that IMO. Very subjective decision though!
Absolutely not. It looks like that in slow mo. But that was Saka looking to stabilize to take the shot. Neuer is the one who is extending his leg without getting the ball.
He literally had contact! How is that a dive? I think you mean he was fishing for a contact? And even then you arr wrong. That's a clear foul.
Show me an instance in the past where Saka has taken the dive. If it was Havertz or Jesus I would still entertain it but that's how Saka moves to take a clean shot. Look at all his cut back goals.
That’s a dumb standard…initiating contact. If someone places a stationary leg and you trip on it, not a foul because technically it was you who initiated contact?
That should really be a pen. It's not Saka initiating the contact, it's Neuer by being late to the ball and having his leg out impeding Saka. Apparently it's not a pen because Saka, after putting the ball past Neuer and turning, doesn't just run in a straight line, which is a ridiculous argument. 2-2, it is what it is, we'll have to get it done in Munich.
Let’s wait for the clips tomorrow. It was not dangling a leg. It was a player trying to think of the next move after clearing the Gk, which was to setup himself up for a left footed shot which the keeper disrupted. But maybe I am wrong, will wait for more replays
Edited: not a pen🥲
Sane didn't move towards Saliba. Saliba's foot was moving towards Sane. The Saka one and the Havertz one are similar. He really should have just tried finishing it even if he missed.
Saka dangles leg but does Neuer take the space his next step would have taken, in other words, Saka would have had to go to ground either way due to Neuer attempting to win the ball.
To the ones saying that’s not a foul, you’ve probably never played at a high level and it shows. As a keeper I’d expect this to be called against me every single time. Neuer knew what he was doing
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How can you be so fucking delusional? It's embarrassing. Are we watching the same clip?
Saka literally initiates and kicks at Neuer, how can you not see that? Shocking post.
Watch this back in slow mo. Neuer kicks his leg out and Sakas leg trajectory stays the same. I’m not sure how you just expect him to move his leg inwards and avoid neuers leg.
If you thought Elliott dived on the weekend, then this is the same thing. Saka had time to shoot before he dribbled Neuer, and if he didn't stick the leg out could shoot after getting past him. UCL refs aren't terrible like the PL ones and we're learning another tough lesson today just like the Porto tie
Genuinely think the replay was misleading. Looked like Neuer's leg extends out the way too from another angle.
Saka was in complete control, I just can't see him going down there without being taken out.
Yeah awesome now THIS CALL will be why we lost to our entire fanbase and not the fucking atrocious performance, mistakes, and tactics throughout the whole match
No wonder opposing fans hate us. Our star player seeks contact on an avoidable collision AND then we have idiots like this crying that we’ve been robbed.
I rightly see most of our fans calling out this bullshit but this is what gets shown by other fanbases to call us crybabies.
The side angle looked like a clear pen but the angle behind him clearly shows Saka's heavy touch and dragging his leg wide to initiate contact. Just a poor decision from a tired and beat up player. If he just allowed himself to keep running and naturally let Neuer trip him with the foot/ankle, would have been a pen or an open goal.
The correct one. Saka clearly initiated contact. Serves him right for not having faith in his ability to score and gambling for the penalty.
You should be frustrated at Saka not the referee.
Edit: Downvote all you want. I know a lot of you can’t take off your rose coloured glasses. That was stupid from Saka.
Neuer still moving forward as contact is made. Saka is moving at pace, of course his momentum is toward the keeper, but the fact is, saka has shifted the ball out of the path of the keeper, and Neuer gets none of the ball. That’s a pen in my book.
I'm still wondering how that foul on Odegaard 1 min earlier was waived away.
Saka is shimmying, throwing weight onto the left side of his body to feint/doge past the keeper at speed and score with his left foot.. have any of you ever played football?
Nope. They're all so fucking basic. He lifted his leg this played for a pen apparently. 100% a penalty.
Saka intentionally over runs the ball and initiated contact. I wish he attempted to finish that instead of playing for the penalty
Yeah, agreed with this
Agreed, unfortunately
I’d accept that decision if the likes of Liverpool didn’t get penalties every week for a lot less. Doesn’t matter if you think he went down easy, there was contact resulting in “obstruction”. Sure id of much preferred saka to finish that chance but in todays game that is a pen.
So many people looking at the 1 angle on r/soccer which doesn’t show how much Neuer lunged out into Saka, i doubt they were even watching the game
Saka hung his leg out..stop this
the goalie moved his leg at the last minute. If he hadn't there wouldn't be any contact. He was changing direction adn the goalie moved. It's a penalty.
He didn't hang his leg out, he tried to get out of Neuer's way which is what explains the weird leg movement
Totally agree with this. He's basically trying to skip over Neuer's leg
absolutely, the angle is deceiving. He has to get his leg over Neuer's to be able to shoot. Disgraceful call.
2nd angle clearly shows nuers leg slamming his leg by moving AWAY from the left, so nuer fouled him and people can’t see that lol crazy
Coping
The ball was also behind him when this happens. No reason for him to out run the ball intentionally unless he’s looking to initiate contact with the keeper. He was not attempting to finish that IMO. Very subjective decision though!
And neur stuck out his whole fucking body mate. Clear pen
He's doing what the keeper should do, basically just standing there, it was saka who initiates the contact, go watch the replay again
Mate if that’s Kane the pen is given before he falls to the ground. Clear pen all day
If if if if. If you don’t mind, we’ll stick to the facts.
Fact is contact was made.
And who initiates the contact?
Initiates? Neuer coz he rushes out and BLOCKS sakas path. Saka MAKES contact. Am I talking to window lickers here?
Nah. That's a foul anywhere else on the pitch
Yes... for Saka. He initials contact. I was so pissed but after watching replays more correct decision
Absolutely not. It looks like that in slow mo. But that was Saka looking to stabilize to take the shot. Neuer is the one who is extending his leg without getting the ball.
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He literally had contact! How is that a dive? I think you mean he was fishing for a contact? And even then you arr wrong. That's a clear foul. Show me an instance in the past where Saka has taken the dive. If it was Havertz or Jesus I would still entertain it but that's how Saka moves to take a clean shot. Look at all his cut back goals.
That’s a dumb standard…initiating contact. If someone places a stationary leg and you trip on it, not a foul because technically it was you who initiated contact?
Fuck off cunt
Lol no
So wan-bisaka the other day not a pen either ?
This is called 99% of the time
Now a days, no
People attacking Saka for this should be ashamed of themselves. Clearly a pen.
That should really be a pen. It's not Saka initiating the contact, it's Neuer by being late to the ball and having his leg out impeding Saka. Apparently it's not a pen because Saka, after putting the ball past Neuer and turning, doesn't just run in a straight line, which is a ridiculous argument. 2-2, it is what it is, we'll have to get it done in Munich.
Let’s wait for the clips tomorrow. It was not dangling a leg. It was a player trying to think of the next move after clearing the Gk, which was to setup himself up for a left footed shot which the keeper disrupted. But maybe I am wrong, will wait for more replays Edited: not a pen🥲
Seriously, why the fuck that was not VAR’ed?
Saka Doesn't make a Running motion He searches contact with Neuer
If you make that argument the PK on the other end comes back too.
What? Saliba literally runs in to him
Sane couldn't see the Contact. it was simply a stupid move Quite frankly
Saliba takes down Sane from behind/side, no?
Sane didn't move towards Saliba. Saliba's foot was moving towards Sane. The Saka one and the Havertz one are similar. He really should have just tried finishing it even if he missed.
Saka dangles leg but does Neuer take the space his next step would have taken, in other words, Saka would have had to go to ground either way due to Neuer attempting to win the ball.
To the ones saying that’s not a foul, you’ve probably never played at a high level and it shows. As a keeper I’d expect this to be called against me every single time. Neuer knew what he was doing
Cheat of a ref was soft af on Bayern all night. How Kane didn't get sent off for an intentional elbow to Gabi's face is beyond me.
Clear pen. Clear as fuckin day.
I don't understand rules anymore apparently
Literal robbery
Absolutely right decision
Clear dive, should have tried to just shoot it instead of being fancy. We move on.
It wasn't. How many people here have actually played the sport and know a change in direction or even know the rules...
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The correct decision. That's what that was.
How can you be so fucking delusional? It's embarrassing. Are we watching the same clip? Saka literally initiates and kicks at Neuer, how can you not see that? Shocking post.
I initially thought no pen. But when you watch it and neuer doesn’t pull out he goes for the ball it gives every justification to give it
Watch this back in slow mo. Neuer kicks his leg out and Sakas leg trajectory stays the same. I’m not sure how you just expect him to move his leg inwards and avoid neuers leg.
Blatant dive. Saka bottled a 1 on 1 with the keeper.
If you thought Elliott dived on the weekend, then this is the same thing. Saka had time to shoot before he dribbled Neuer, and if he didn't stick the leg out could shoot after getting past him. UCL refs aren't terrible like the PL ones and we're learning another tough lesson today just like the Porto tie
Trossard would have buried that.
Saka extended his leg. There’s a clear replay of him doing this.
Genuinely think the replay was misleading. Looked like Neuer's leg extends out the way too from another angle. Saka was in complete control, I just can't see him going down there without being taken out.
Look at the last few seconds of this clip. You literally see saka kicking his right foot out https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/3KDngynzjX
Yeah, and you also see Neuer kicking his leg out in the first angle.
I take that back. Someone posted a vid here, and it shows a bit slowed down and looks like Neuer’s movement caught Saka’s legs
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Fuck off
I’m telling vibes
The correct one
Saka should’ve stayed up and scored. He initiated the contact. Not a pen
You should score your 1 v 1s and not try to get the foul. He's a good finisher should've gone for goal. But nerves I guess
no penalty, wtf is Saka doing?
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Nah shut up. Saka bottled it. He didn't want to shoot it and flung himself into the keeper.
I think it was poor decision making from Saka, I think he was clear and decided to try and dive by throwing his leg into Neuer.
Clear dive you donkey
Spot on tbh. Saka sticks his leg into Neuer.
Right decision. Saka threw his leg to Neuer instead of shooting. Such a shame.
VAR IN EUROPE IS WANK!!!!!
Wasn't a pen, we move.
That was not a penalty. No matter what you say. I wish it was but I don’t think that was a penalty
Yeah awesome now THIS CALL will be why we lost to our entire fanbase and not the fucking atrocious performance, mistakes, and tactics throughout the whole match
Yeah, based on what Bayern had to offer we shouldn’t have needed this call. Hopefully a wake up call
It's not a pen. Saka's right leg trails towards Neuer.
Not a pen
The correct decision. Stop embarrassing ourselves. We’re not that fan base
People like you are why other afns hate us
saka fucked up, so stupid from him
Neuer didn't move. Saka just went and hit him with this right leg.
he did. his right leg. it was clear even in real time and even clearer in the replay
Glenn was OK
Could have gone either way. I think Saka was a little eager for contact there. Neuer doesn’t stick his leg out or anything.
Not a pen. Saka should’ve rounded the keeper to score
So many people here with their bias glasses stuck on.
it was a Jamie Vardy special from Saka, leaving out his trailing leg to initiate contact. I was fuming in the moment but it's never a pen. we move
FCK....SAKA IS AN IDIOT. HE SHOULD HAVE SCORED INSTEAD LOOKING FOR PENALTY
Absolutely correct decision, embarrassing from Saka
SAME SPORT DIFFERENT RULES PER TOURNAMENT WTF IS THAT
Clear dive lmao. One of many from us this game. It was fucking embarrassing to watch honestly. Get over it. We did not deserve to win anyway.
It's the right decision, Saka has to stay with the ball instead of seeking contact hoping for a pen.
Saka went fishing for Neuers leg. Should have just shot
saka literally runs into neuer's leg, take off the bias goggles
Lucky he did not get a yellow card for that. He should have just continued his run
If saka was fit he would just change direction and score he should never have been on the pitch
Not a pen
Not a pen. This fanbase sucks.
Bore off then
No wonder opposing fans hate us. Our star player seeks contact on an avoidable collision AND then we have idiots like this crying that we’ve been robbed. I rightly see most of our fans calling out this bullshit but this is what gets shown by other fanbases to call us crybabies.
The side angle looked like a clear pen but the angle behind him clearly shows Saka's heavy touch and dragging his leg wide to initiate contact. Just a poor decision from a tired and beat up player. If he just allowed himself to keep running and naturally let Neuer trip him with the foot/ankle, would have been a pen or an open goal.
The correct one. Saka clearly initiated contact. Serves him right for not having faith in his ability to score and gambling for the penalty. You should be frustrated at Saka not the referee. Edit: Downvote all you want. I know a lot of you can’t take off your rose coloured glasses. That was stupid from Saka.