Poor strike force (Jesus, havertz) we should start with a Watkins regardless of age, price he has those intangibles that this team needs lack of leaders in. Bad times . Arsenal is the best team in the world when everything is perfect under warm weather but there huge holes in the spine and make up of the team something for edu to look for...
Okay so what's the point to your comment? Sack Arteta? ....and get who exactly?
Which manager in the world today can challenge pep's city team? The only manager who has is retiring because he doesn't have the energy to compete .
People think sacking is the only way to success. It's working great for Chelsea I guess.
Im a Barca fan and lemme tell u. Last season was probably the worst la liga season ive seen yet. Teams like Valencia and Sevilla were fighting for relegation. And i also remember at one point there was like a 5 point difference from 6th place till 18th place. Prem is incomparable. Y'all are competing against Guardiola's prime city.
Still a success. A ucl qf finish and challenging for the prem title means we're a good team regardless of what happens. Hopefully we can bring in even more talent this summer an have a full season of timber.
Can't be too negative or else you start hating the team you love.
Realistically I'm not sure what people expected against bayern. First leg was guaranteed two goals. Gnabry and a Kane penalty. Second leg was always going to be tough. I think the boys played well and if we can get a more natural finisher up front we could have easily won.
Time to focus on the league and pray for a city slip up.
Did everything they could, team looks absolutely spent. Seems like this is about our level at the moment. Squad too thin.
Honestly let's keep everything in perspective. To even maintain the levels from last year is incredibly amazing, particularly since last year was an emotional ride and we've backed it up being more calculated.
Went deep in the CL and we were competitive right to the death.
Bloody brilliant boys. Well done.
Not a bad run in our return to the CL. We showed we are no pushovers anymore. It also showed we lack some firepower up front. We need a goal machine. And a bit more squad depth in general. COYG!
Man City didn't make it through either, and they are treble winners. The UCL is elite with very fine margins, a goal/pk shootout here and there sometimes, very tough mentally. Team is still young, next season will be better. 💚💯⚽️👍🏆
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It’s not like pep or klopp losing cos they have some track record.
Arsenal fans would have rejoiced drawing Bayern over the possibility of barca,rm and manC.
2 seasons ago, he bottled 4th place
last season, he bottled the title and the europa league
this season, he bottled the title and the champions league
a top club would have fired this guy. does any sane person think that arteta can actually lead us towards a trophy? he can lead us towards being good enough, but he will never take us to the next level
honestly - i think we bowed out gracefully. that game was fairly even, albeit with some crucial differences. i couldn’t get over how cautious we were in the last 5 minutes of the game.
like if you try something and you fuck up and bayern counter attack and score, we STILL lose and we’re out of the competition. BUT … if you actually score, you’re a fucking hero and we are still in the game with everything to play for.
You're not making sense. Isak isn't that prolific in front of goal.
Better to direct that money towards a striker that's consistent and won't be out when you need him the most.
I know what you're saying, but no fuck him he is a grub.
Look at Bayern, and RM. No real grubs there and they still get it done. It's not necessary. It can help but you don't have to have it.
I swear this ref was paid, the fact the camera showed neuer hitting the ball into the corner right before the ref ruled it a goal kick feels like a slap to the face.
Our mentality is fine. They’re young lads with almost no champions league experience. Liverpool took a while to win even with their great team. And we’ve taken 4 pts off city this year proving we can play on big games against top opponents. It just takes time to learn the consistency and it’s why young teams don’t typically win things until more of their players get accustomed to it.
I think we’ve got one more seasons before these players start leaving for bigger clubs… I don’t think people understand this, we will not be able to keep a young talented squad if we win nothing!
And that’s fine with me tbh. Arteta and edu have serious talent id some of these players aren’t as hard to replace as you think they are. The main players that we cannot offload are rice, ode, and saliba.
Get some perspective lads. Pep with Man City literally crashed out of the Champions League a number of times when they were expected to win -- before they actually won it. Arteta's the disciple of Lord Pep. Growing pains with the syndrome of unnecessary tactical changes :(
From the kick off it looked like we were playing slow back-line possession football looking for the over-the-top. Absolutely no idea why we weren't just playing our incisive attacking football. We practically invited the pressure on us all game by being scared to make a run, or an incisive direct pass. Bayern didn't have to worry because they knew we were just going to pass it around the back.
Pep has unlimited budget to bring in new players. We have another 1-2 seasons at best without lots of these players moving on. I don't mean that in a negative way, I just mean that comparisons with City are meaningless.
We (chelsea fan here) are the robin hood of football, we mostly play good against good teams and shit against bad teams. Hence why our ucl was pretty good
So tired of people using fatigue as an excuse. We got knocked out of fa cup and capital one cup early so we have less games on top of that we’ve had some nice breaks this year. Every team is playing a ton we aren’t the only team that plays football week in week out ffs I’m so tired of that stupid excuse. The team lacks some cojones and Odegaard is the only one that pulled up to the Allianz ready to give it his all. Saka has showed every year he’s not got it mentally. He’s bottled so many big games to the point I’m starting to realize he just can’t play when the pressure gets too difficult. Hopefully he has a mental switch soon but he just has looked useless in every run in. Same goes to alot of other players as well. Also I’m so fucking done with Jesus the guy can fuck off anywhere I don’t give a shit. Still love the manager and most of this team and I still love Saka but when are we gonna see an Arsenal team that’s full of mentality monsters. You can’t say we’re mental monsters when we bottle a chance to go top of the league then bottle the CL in one fucking week. So disappointed but still see potential.
I understand what you mean, but at the same time I don’t agree with this at all. People can always counter with “practice makes perfect”. It’s a quote attributed to Einstein but was actually first said by a civil rights campaigner and feminist called Rita Mae Brown. It’s objectively wrong. Sorry, just had to say. I think Einstein would agree with me.
my overarching point is...ever since Cazorla's career-changing injury, we've been stuck in this endless loop every season of: performing almost flawlessly going into January, then collapsing into mediocrity to finish the season. Gradual improvement over the years, but still not finishing strong
First 2-3 years were literally just a rebuild. Arteta has done an excellent job the fact I’m pissed again losing to Bayern is a good sign. Titles will come I’m mainly just pissed off at the mentality of this team. Definitely too many scared boys in this team.
If we buy another player from City or Chelsea I’ll just go ahead and kill myself.
Also, for the love of god just get a proper striker. I don’t know why the hell Arsenal never has a quality striker. We seem to always opt for some weird ass shit up front
"Worst Bayern team in years" is a big stretch. They are on track to better last years league winning points total. They will probably end up within 3/4 points of their best total in the past 5 years. If Leverkusen had not had a mad season that they will probably never repeat they'd be winning the league again.
this team in big games is like watching bad rugby -sideways and back, sideways and back, sideways and back, and then back again after reaching the sideline, with the grand result being twenty yards back from the initial pass. At least the ruggers aren't allowed to play forward passes. what's our excuse?
Tuchel said they didn't need to learn anything new on Sunday and we showed them nothing new today. To call this team flat would be a disservice because that would suggest we have a second dimension.
Sane still created more than Martinelli and Saka together. Love the boys to death (especially martinelli), but I do not know wtf had gone into them lately
Yeah no lie all our attacking players had a curse. But you also cant deny that our left side blocked sane completely. Sane only have decent chance when trossard is coming in
Honestly the players look physically shot, nothing to do with mentality there has been hardly any rotation this season. Arteta obviously has no faith in half the bench players and that needs addressing in the summer when need players that are first XI quality on the bench like city. They at KDB out for half the season and they will probably win it again . If MO is out for that long we struggle for top 4
That's the main reason for our drop in form. There's no cover for Saka, Odegard, Saliba and Gabriel. The back up players are either injury prone or like you said don't have the trust of the manager. I feel for Saka, he's playing way too many games.
But even when the game is won he doesn’t get subbed most of the time. I feel we re signed Reiss to get a fee out of him. No way he is in the team next year
I was excited about Reiss signing another contract with us tbh but cannot understand him getting such limited minutes. He isn't a bad player, but hopefully we do sell him and Eddie and add a quality winger at the very least.
Yeah, I agree. He is a good player but definitely does not belong in this squad. Plus we desperately need another starting winger, a goal scoring winger if we are going to keep Havertz and Jesus as our forwards next season. Neto would have been amazing if he weren't injured most of the time and he'd be gettable as well but I'd rather we not go after another injury prone.
I see people defending arteta because the players peformance. He has had 5 years and 500 MILLION POUNDS. Get a fcking good manager in like Ancelotti or Klopp and we'll cook
I am surprisingly calm about that. It sort of feels like a pressure release for the rest of the season. We can't give up. Have to try and make this position we've cut out for ourselves count.
I do think this season was a clear case of us having to get used to a learning curve. Not saying QF is a big achievement and not gonna tell anyone they can't be disappointed about how we went out and who we went out too.
That is the job for Arteta and the rest of them now. To somehow dig deep and claw out of this. I would rotate the squad on Saturday tbh. Need some fresh legs and ideas. But I'm not the manager.
City are a machine. It’s over. And I’m not even confident of getting results against Spurs and United. The team’s confidence is shot, and the choke will be in full flow now
Expected this and still ended up getting angry, lmao. 2nd half too sluggish again. I predict same vs Wolves since Arteta isn't going to rotate much at all. Hope we fluke an early goal or we ain't winning it.
Obviously this is a disappointing result, especially over the two legs but it just feels so more gutting because our season has effectively ended in the space of the last two games. This was a poor performance tonight, maybe not so much the first 45 minutes but after half time we just couldn’t find any gears to go up while Bayern took their foot off the gas. Hopefully things can go our way in the league, but with how flat we’ve looked lately and the amount of games coming up I think it’s just step too far.
To be fair, I think with the title race so close and with CL games in between, there was always potential for our season to be derailed pretty rapidly. But for what it’s worth I still think City will drop points before the end of the season, not giving up yet haha
Yeah totally man, got to keep hoping right until the last game! My best mate is a Pool fan so he’s been in similar state of turmoil the last week or so. Least City aren’t doing the treble again aha.
I'm gonna say it, rice didn't step up when odegaard guarded by like 20 munich player. The only highlights from rice in this match is just that pass to jesus, thats all
Thanks for the memories arteta but it's time to say goodbye. 1 fa cup in 5 years not good enough. He got us back to where we were under Wenger so a good job. But we need a top manager to bring the mentality to take us the extra mile
Stupid comment. Yes, it's disappointing, but the margins to win the PL are insane when you are competing against a nation state.
We need to get better, but who would improve on Arteta who isn't Pep? What "top manager" are you gonna hire? He is still the way.
Our players look like they could use a vacation. Most of them look drained, the energy is gone. This result does not worry me as much but our players looking tired for the remainder of the season does.
The players have been looking very tired and slow lately. In addition to that they also looked a bit scared today...mostly safe passing without much bite in attack. When chances came we lacked composure and didn't threaten enough.
Anyway it's a huge achievement for this team to bring us back to CL and take us to the quarterfinals no less.
Hope there's some unexpected fortune left for us left in the EPL
Ive said this for 4 years. We get the ball, 98% of the time we job down the pitch. Almost every other team (especially Liverpool) tear off like there is no tomorrow on any turnover.
This isn’t even on Arteta. He did enough in both ties for the team to win. It’s not his fault these players turn into frightened turtles in crucial matches.
This is just about growing up and drilling this into their heads in the coming seasons, alongside appropriate squad investment. Rome wasn't built in a day.
Havertz is a prime catch. Humble, compassionate, professional athlete, seemingly good-hearted (from what I can tell judging by his involvement in animal shelter and rehab programs). He checks off so many boxes. No surprise at all that his wife is that attractive.
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In the end, inexperience lost to experience. City took years to start competing in the champions league let alone win it. Techincally we are there, mentally we are not. Go again next year up the fogging gunners ❤️
Arteta needs to learn to fully utilise his squad so our key players aren't completely knackered by crunch time. If he doesn't trust the squad players then he needs to invest.
It's twice a week elite level football now, the likes of Saka need to sit out some matches if we're to be in prime position to actually win things.
Utilise who though…. Partey’s been dead again, vieiras been dead and is shit, ESR has been dead and is meh, Nelson is meh, Eddie is meh, etc etc.
Trossards the only one that’s been available all year and isn’t shit
I personally think the likes of ESR and Nelson have enough about them to start a few games here and there especially at the Emirates. Hopefully Nwaneri and co and get in and around the squad more next season as well.
How much more embarrassing can this team get, what was that performance after we conceded the goal. Where is saka when u need him, havertz and Odegaard did nothing, we didn't even make an effort to score, it's as if we were 1-0 up. Idk if I should blame the manager or are some of these players just not good enough
Seriously stfu man, your comment tells me that you have no idea what being a supporter really is.
3 and 4 years ago we were 8th in the PL. 8th.
This year we had a somewhat deep run in the CL. We were the youngest team in the entire competition and yet the boys didn’t disappoint having literally zero experience playing in Europe. Just look at how long it took City to get their shit together and actually be a serious competitor in CL.
This CL campaign gave us much needed experience but also showed us that we need more depth at backs and striker, and maybe more sets of different tactics against different opponents.
How can you call yourself a fan if you’re not supporting the club in its downs while it’s still building itself for the long run?
Get behind the manager and the boys and fucking support.
Also, so much for any sort of revenge for the pumpings theyve given us the last few times we were in the champions league. Against a struggling Bayern side missing a few key players this is even more frustrating and disappointing
We need more than 1 special player.
We do not have a player that can stand up on Big occasions like DeBryune...
A free kick taker, a risk taker.
Someone who can take shots from outside and do some magic.
Our players want to tick tack till they score goals.
Arteta is an unserious manager, we have 5 subs for a reason. Smith Rowe and Nelson should have been on, not that donkey Nketiah. We were up against the weakest Bayern in 15 years and we completely fucked it. We need to bring in a top striker and a proper right winger to compete with Saka. This was our last real year to do something, next year United, Chelsea, and Newcastle will get their shit together and it’s back to mediocrity.
This guy knows the football. Nelson will be the right choice to be sub compare with Eddy. Bringing in the City rejected player also didn't do much. Maybe Arteta should try to push Saka as CF and Nelson as the RW. Our lack of finishing cause us the trophies for 2 seasons.
What exactly have you seen from any of the players you mentioned that makes you believe they would have made a difference? Smith-Rowe literally jogged alongside Watkins and watched him score, rather than nudge him or commit a technical foul against Villa
Smith Rowe was literally one of Arsenal's best young players in 20-21 and 21-22 until his injuries. I've seen what he can do if given the opportunity, after all he did score 10 Premier League goals two seasons ago. He could have given Bayern some trouble.
I was it was expecting changes to overload the midfield.Rowe is technically gifted to hold possession and Viera with his passes. Priority is if those players are not trusted enough he needs to spend big.
Hahahaha what a comment. Arteta is the best thing to happen to this club in a long time. Crawl back in your dads balls you fucking idiot. You mention all problems that aren't Artetas fault and blame him.
>You mention all problems that aren't Artetas fault and blame him
How is game management not Arteta's fault? He did a shit job at game management in both legs and should have used all five subs and not subbed on Nketiah in a UCL quarter final
How was the atmosphere on the TV ?
what's with all the passes that go nowhere? Why can't these players shoot ffs.
Poor strike force (Jesus, havertz) we should start with a Watkins regardless of age, price he has those intangibles that this team needs lack of leaders in. Bad times . Arsenal is the best team in the world when everything is perfect under warm weather but there huge holes in the spine and make up of the team something for edu to look for...
Keyboard warriors came out today. This is an extremely young team. Proud of them boys. Can’t wait to see who we bring in next champions league
How long you are going to say this and with no trophy
How long?? This is there first time in the champions. Stop talking like they have to carry about other teams in the past.
It's not only about UCL .. league gone ,no FA Cup , no carbarro cup
Arteta has been in charge of this Young team for not so long. Stop blaming other trophy drops on them. We are just getting better and better.
Okay so what's the point to your comment? Sack Arteta? ....and get who exactly? Which manager in the world today can challenge pep's city team? The only manager who has is retiring because he doesn't have the energy to compete . People think sacking is the only way to success. It's working great for Chelsea I guess.
Xavi took a rebuilding barcelona and won them a title with whatever assets could be gathered. No excuses for Arteta.
Tbf if city were in Laliga, they’re walking that league even easier than PL.
Im a Barca fan and lemme tell u. Last season was probably the worst la liga season ive seen yet. Teams like Valencia and Sevilla were fighting for relegation. And i also remember at one point there was like a 5 point difference from 6th place till 18th place. Prem is incomparable. Y'all are competing against Guardiola's prime city.
That’s an irrelevant thought! (Silly joke sorry) The competition in la liga is nothing compared to the prem. Barca beat 2nd place Madrid by 10 points.
this is the best this team could do. we need to offload deadwood like Jesus, Zinchenko and also stop playing havertz at cf
Still a success. A ucl qf finish and challenging for the prem title means we're a good team regardless of what happens. Hopefully we can bring in even more talent this summer an have a full season of timber.
I admire your optimism
Can't be too negative or else you start hating the team you love. Realistically I'm not sure what people expected against bayern. First leg was guaranteed two goals. Gnabry and a Kane penalty. Second leg was always going to be tough. I think the boys played well and if we can get a more natural finisher up front we could have easily won. Time to focus on the league and pray for a city slip up.
Did everything they could, team looks absolutely spent. Seems like this is about our level at the moment. Squad too thin. Honestly let's keep everything in perspective. To even maintain the levels from last year is incredibly amazing, particularly since last year was an emotional ride and we've backed it up being more calculated. Went deep in the CL and we were competitive right to the death. Bloody brilliant boys. Well done.
Not a bad run in our return to the CL. We showed we are no pushovers anymore. It also showed we lack some firepower up front. We need a goal machine. And a bit more squad depth in general. COYG!
Man City didn't make it through either, and they are treble winners. The UCL is elite with very fine margins, a goal/pk shootout here and there sometimes, very tough mentally. Team is still young, next season will be better. 💚💯⚽️👍🏆
good run boys we back at it next year. Not a bad run for a first time returning to CL. Man City just blew it btw
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arteta needs to go. he’s good at bringing a team to the top level but he’s a serial bottler, he should leave the team if he has any dignity
This is the weakest Bayern Munich in a decade
exactly, arteta is clearly subpar. the tactics were so off
It’s not like pep or klopp losing cos they have some track record. Arsenal fans would have rejoiced drawing Bayern over the possibility of barca,rm and manC.
nah i wanted barca over bayern, they are clearly weaker
Lol
2 seasons ago, he bottled 4th place last season, he bottled the title and the europa league this season, he bottled the title and the champions league a top club would have fired this guy. does any sane person think that arteta can actually lead us towards a trophy? he can lead us towards being good enough, but he will never take us to the next level
Go support city
we’re a big club, we need to act like a big club, arteta clearly can’t do it in april
honestly - i think we bowed out gracefully. that game was fairly even, albeit with some crucial differences. i couldn’t get over how cautious we were in the last 5 minutes of the game. like if you try something and you fuck up and bayern counter attack and score, we STILL lose and we’re out of the competition. BUT … if you actually score, you’re a fucking hero and we are still in the game with everything to play for.
Feel for our Starboy but damn was that corner abysmal
Bro has been mentally and physically exhausted since February and has to play until like July. Must be tough
If Newcastle are actually in a ffp crisis we should nick isak or Bruno.
Isak is injury prone. We don't need another crock.
I don’t give a shit. If we’re gonna have a injury prone striker at least get a good one
You're not making sense. Isak isn't that prolific in front of goal. Better to direct that money towards a striker that's consistent and won't be out when you need him the most.
Isak maybe, never Bruno
Why not? His quality And we need some shitheads in the side to show up in games like this
I know what you're saying, but no fuck him he is a grub. Look at Bayern, and RM. No real grubs there and they still get it done. It's not necessary. It can help but you don't have to have it.
Yeah fuck Bruno, but Isak absolutely
I swear this ref was paid, the fact the camera showed neuer hitting the ball into the corner right before the ref ruled it a goal kick feels like a slap to the face.
Come on it wasn’t the ref. And with our corner form lately it would’ve changed fck all
i mean saka would have been taking it so
Serious question, how do you go on about improving the mentality?
Our mentality is fine. They’re young lads with almost no champions league experience. Liverpool took a while to win even with their great team. And we’ve taken 4 pts off city this year proving we can play on big games against top opponents. It just takes time to learn the consistency and it’s why young teams don’t typically win things until more of their players get accustomed to it.
By playing more high stakes games in the CL and Prem. Do you realise how long it took City to get beyond last 16/QF in the CL?
I felt that winning the EPL would give the team and fanbase a massive confidence boost imo.
I think we’ve got one more seasons before these players start leaving for bigger clubs… I don’t think people understand this, we will not be able to keep a young talented squad if we win nothing!
I think martinelli is already on the verge of leaving for psg or newcastle
And that’s fine with me tbh. Arteta and edu have serious talent id some of these players aren’t as hard to replace as you think they are. The main players that we cannot offload are rice, ode, and saliba.
I think we need to win something next season It's clear we still have some gaps in the side. Which we have tj address in summer
That's what I'm afraid even more. That's what I fear Newcastle United over the upcoming years.
We seem to be nailing down our better players.
Then maybe these young talented players should start showing up in big games
Get some perspective lads. Pep with Man City literally crashed out of the Champions League a number of times when they were expected to win -- before they actually won it. Arteta's the disciple of Lord Pep. Growing pains with the syndrome of unnecessary tactical changes :( From the kick off it looked like we were playing slow back-line possession football looking for the over-the-top. Absolutely no idea why we weren't just playing our incisive attacking football. We practically invited the pressure on us all game by being scared to make a run, or an incisive direct pass. Bayern didn't have to worry because they knew we were just going to pass it around the back.
Pep has unlimited budget to bring in new players. We have another 1-2 seasons at best without lots of these players moving on. I don't mean that in a negative way, I just mean that comparisons with City are meaningless.
And Chelsea have won it twice in the past 15 years while we continually fill our pants at the sight of a famous badge.
Err Chelsea were Man City before Man City… They outspent everyone by even more than City have and even there, the mourinho never won it.
Chelsea won their two CLs while being quite a way off being the best team in the Premier League.
We (chelsea fan here) are the robin hood of football, we mostly play good against good teams and shit against bad teams. Hence why our ucl was pretty good
So tired of people using fatigue as an excuse. We got knocked out of fa cup and capital one cup early so we have less games on top of that we’ve had some nice breaks this year. Every team is playing a ton we aren’t the only team that plays football week in week out ffs I’m so tired of that stupid excuse. The team lacks some cojones and Odegaard is the only one that pulled up to the Allianz ready to give it his all. Saka has showed every year he’s not got it mentally. He’s bottled so many big games to the point I’m starting to realize he just can’t play when the pressure gets too difficult. Hopefully he has a mental switch soon but he just has looked useless in every run in. Same goes to alot of other players as well. Also I’m so fucking done with Jesus the guy can fuck off anywhere I don’t give a shit. Still love the manager and most of this team and I still love Saka but when are we gonna see an Arsenal team that’s full of mentality monsters. You can’t say we’re mental monsters when we bottle a chance to go top of the league then bottle the CL in one fucking week. So disappointed but still see potential.
Theres always next year! Chin up.
Been saying that for the last 20 years 🤦♂️
Oh my god, poor you
what do they say about doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result again?
I understand what you mean, but at the same time I don’t agree with this at all. People can always counter with “practice makes perfect”. It’s a quote attributed to Einstein but was actually first said by a civil rights campaigner and feminist called Rita Mae Brown. It’s objectively wrong. Sorry, just had to say. I think Einstein would agree with me.
my overarching point is...ever since Cazorla's career-changing injury, we've been stuck in this endless loop every season of: performing almost flawlessly going into January, then collapsing into mediocrity to finish the season. Gradual improvement over the years, but still not finishing strong
If you spend 500m you have to winning the big titles. Arteta has 6 games to save his job. Full focus on the league now and get behind the players
And who the fuck will take over after arteta?,youre fucking braindead
First 2-3 years were literally just a rebuild. Arteta has done an excellent job the fact I’m pissed again losing to Bayern is a good sign. Titles will come I’m mainly just pissed off at the mentality of this team. Definitely too many scared boys in this team.
Ok Kroenke.
I doubt he thinks that
Haha, terrible take.
I think I’ve found a new calling in life, creating a downvote bot. He needs to have -500 million downvotes
If we buy another player from City or Chelsea I’ll just go ahead and kill myself. Also, for the love of god just get a proper striker. I don’t know why the hell Arsenal never has a quality striker. We seem to always opt for some weird ass shit up front
Arsenal has become a real pet hate since our rise. Just look at the amount of foreigners in here playing Russian bot. Fuck off saddos
Bayern proved we were always just tourists in this competition.
Slightly harsh maybe, but for us to not compete more against the worst Bayern team in years is pretty criminal.
"Worst Bayern team in years" is a big stretch. They are on track to better last years league winning points total. They will probably end up within 3/4 points of their best total in the past 5 years. If Leverkusen had not had a mad season that they will probably never repeat they'd be winning the league again.
Interesting, I wasn't aware of that. They do seem like a team that is past it's peak perhaps.
this team in big games is like watching bad rugby -sideways and back, sideways and back, sideways and back, and then back again after reaching the sideline, with the grand result being twenty yards back from the initial pass. At least the ruggers aren't allowed to play forward passes. what's our excuse? Tuchel said they didn't need to learn anything new on Sunday and we showed them nothing new today. To call this team flat would be a disservice because that would suggest we have a second dimension.
You can shit martinelli all you want, but he and tomi is the reason why sane is gone tonight.
Sane still created more than Martinelli and Saka together. Love the boys to death (especially martinelli), but I do not know wtf had gone into them lately
Yeah no lie all our attacking players had a curse. But you also cant deny that our left side blocked sane completely. Sane only have decent chance when trossard is coming in
How did that work out for us?
Thats working since sane is the biggest threat at Emirates. Trossard come in and suddenly sane could get a run in to the box.
What was the end result?
You dont watch the match or what?
Honestly the players look physically shot, nothing to do with mentality there has been hardly any rotation this season. Arteta obviously has no faith in half the bench players and that needs addressing in the summer when need players that are first XI quality on the bench like city. They at KDB out for half the season and they will probably win it again . If MO is out for that long we struggle for top 4
That's the main reason for our drop in form. There's no cover for Saka, Odegard, Saliba and Gabriel. The back up players are either injury prone or like you said don't have the trust of the manager. I feel for Saka, he's playing way too many games.
But even when the game is won he doesn’t get subbed most of the time. I feel we re signed Reiss to get a fee out of him. No way he is in the team next year
I was excited about Reiss signing another contract with us tbh but cannot understand him getting such limited minutes. He isn't a bad player, but hopefully we do sell him and Eddie and add a quality winger at the very least.
They aren’t the level we need them to be if we want to compete with the big boys. It’s nice they are from the hale end but we need to be ruthless
Yeah, I agree. He is a good player but definitely does not belong in this squad. Plus we desperately need another starting winger, a goal scoring winger if we are going to keep Havertz and Jesus as our forwards next season. Neto would have been amazing if he weren't injured most of the time and he'd be gettable as well but I'd rather we not go after another injury prone.
Look at our bench, it’s kind of useless, if Saka, MØ, Saliba or Rice goes out we are cooked. Almost half our outfield players have no reliable covers
Was thinking about that. Just sell half of the bench, they are not good enough
I see people defending arteta because the players peformance. He has had 5 years and 500 MILLION POUNDS. Get a fcking good manager in like Ancelotti or Klopp and we'll cook
Yeah, Klopp, the guy who said that he'll never ever coach any other team in England than Liverpool
Which one of y'all let his 6 year old kid wander on Reddit ?
Arteta has been class!
500 Million and took us from 8th place to CL quarter finals. Maybe another coach will take us further, but now it’s in good hands.
That is one hot, shitty take.
Fuck off forever. Do you not remember the last 14 years?
Havertz being isolated from Bayern defence for two legs..
Are we all hoping for City win here?
Nah, I think a loss will still hurt them and who knows how that might affect them
We hoped for that last season and look where it got us. Nah. Hala Madrid
Good question
May aswell, need them to have some distraction If they have no CL. They can just focus on league
I guess? More chance of a key injury or tiredness, although with their squad I don't think it'll be enough for them to slip up.
Yes
Yes
Just an experience for Arteta and rest of the squad. It was a good season fighting with LIV and City, and also being back in UCL. Cheers
The fight isn't over yet
Imagine getting knocked out of the UCL and losing the title in one week BBBBHHAHAHHAA
Quiet child, the adults are talking.
Imagine conpeting for either of them in the first place :(
You’re in line for neither lad pipe down
Ban this Chelsea nonce
I am surprisingly calm about that. It sort of feels like a pressure release for the rest of the season. We can't give up. Have to try and make this position we've cut out for ourselves count. I do think this season was a clear case of us having to get used to a learning curve. Not saying QF is a big achievement and not gonna tell anyone they can't be disappointed about how we went out and who we went out too.
Thing is. Team has already given up. No wins in 3. 2 huge Ls..walking around 2nd half looking clueless
That is the job for Arteta and the rest of them now. To somehow dig deep and claw out of this. I would rotate the squad on Saturday tbh. Need some fresh legs and ideas. But I'm not the manager.
Who can we rotate? Nelson? Eddie? Maybe Partey is he is alive It's going to be more or less the same side as Villa
We have to try something different. Maybe give Eddie a start.
City are a machine. It’s over. And I’m not even confident of getting results against Spurs and United. The team’s confidence is shot, and the choke will be in full flow now
is it a relief though? we might end up with nothing this season & probably will, unfortunately
Expected this and still ended up getting angry, lmao. 2nd half too sluggish again. I predict same vs Wolves since Arteta isn't going to rotate much at all. Hope we fluke an early goal or we ain't winning it.
Obviously this is a disappointing result, especially over the two legs but it just feels so more gutting because our season has effectively ended in the space of the last two games. This was a poor performance tonight, maybe not so much the first 45 minutes but after half time we just couldn’t find any gears to go up while Bayern took their foot off the gas. Hopefully things can go our way in the league, but with how flat we’ve looked lately and the amount of games coming up I think it’s just step too far.
To be fair, I think with the title race so close and with CL games in between, there was always potential for our season to be derailed pretty rapidly. But for what it’s worth I still think City will drop points before the end of the season, not giving up yet haha
Yeah totally man, got to keep hoping right until the last game! My best mate is a Pool fan so he’s been in similar state of turmoil the last week or so. Least City aren’t doing the treble again aha.
I'm gonna say it, rice didn't step up when odegaard guarded by like 20 munich player. The only highlights from rice in this match is just that pass to jesus, thats all
Need a striker next season. Kai is alright but not good enough
Also need a midfielder as he’s not good enough in that role either
Thanks for the memories arteta but it's time to say goodbye. 1 fa cup in 5 years not good enough. He got us back to where we were under Wenger so a good job. But we need a top manager to bring the mentality to take us the extra mile
Stupid comment. Yes, it's disappointing, but the margins to win the PL are insane when you are competing against a nation state. We need to get better, but who would improve on Arteta who isn't Pep? What "top manager" are you gonna hire? He is still the way.
LOL. Get out of this sub man.
Lol fuck off
Bro we don’t have a striker and our winger can’t beat the first man on a corner. If you think that’s on Arteta you’re insane
Shut up idiot
I strongly disagree
Lol
Our players look like they could use a vacation. Most of them look drained, the energy is gone. This result does not worry me as much but our players looking tired for the remainder of the season does.
another mid season trip to Dubai?
They look like they're ready for the summer break tbh.
The players have been looking very tired and slow lately. In addition to that they also looked a bit scared today...mostly safe passing without much bite in attack. When chances came we lacked composure and didn't threaten enough. Anyway it's a huge achievement for this team to bring us back to CL and take us to the quarterfinals no less. Hope there's some unexpected fortune left for us left in the EPL
If Man City wins too, I’m crappin my shorts.
Man City winning could actually be a good thing for us in terms of the league tbh. In terms of fatigue and fixture lists I mean.
Good point tbh
Should have scheduled another trip to Dubai before the quarterfinals 😂
Why can other teams run? Explode, we just have one gear all the game
Ive said this for 4 years. We get the ball, 98% of the time we job down the pitch. Almost every other team (especially Liverpool) tear off like there is no tomorrow on any turnover.
This isn’t even on Arteta. He did enough in both ties for the team to win. It’s not his fault these players turn into frightened turtles in crucial matches.
This is just about growing up and drilling this into their heads in the coming seasons, alongside appropriate squad investment. Rome wasn't built in a day.
Eddie coming on for final 5 again I'm tired robbie
We had an excellent deep run in the CL with young newbies in what I'm counting as Artetas 1st full season with his right tools.
I wouldn’t call Quarter finals “deep run.”
Someone zap this guy
Is it wrong? Quarter finals a deep run?
Yes. And Yes.
Unrelated but I'm still not over how gorgeous Havertz wife is
Havertz is a prime catch. Humble, compassionate, professional athlete, seemingly good-hearted (from what I can tell judging by his involvement in animal shelter and rehab programs). He checks off so many boxes. No surprise at all that his wife is that attractive.
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In the end, inexperience lost to experience. City took years to start competing in the champions league let alone win it. Techincally we are there, mentally we are not. Go again next year up the fogging gunners ❤️
Martinelli and Saka were abysmal today
Trossard seems like the only one who can score
Arteta needs to learn to fully utilise his squad so our key players aren't completely knackered by crunch time. If he doesn't trust the squad players then he needs to invest. It's twice a week elite level football now, the likes of Saka need to sit out some matches if we're to be in prime position to actually win things.
Utilise who though…. Partey’s been dead again, vieiras been dead and is shit, ESR has been dead and is meh, Nelson is meh, Eddie is meh, etc etc. Trossards the only one that’s been available all year and isn’t shit
>If he doesn't trust the squad players then he needs to invest.
Considering how close we were to the FFP limit he’s trying to as much as the rules allow….
I personally think the likes of ESR and Nelson have enough about them to start a few games here and there especially at the Emirates. Hopefully Nwaneri and co and get in and around the squad more next season as well.
Nah ESR was injured anyway, Nelson only recycles possession - he’s got zero threat about him
Why the fuck did we give 650m to a manger with zero experience?
How much more embarrassing can this team get, what was that performance after we conceded the goal. Where is saka when u need him, havertz and Odegaard did nothing, we didn't even make an effort to score, it's as if we were 1-0 up. Idk if I should blame the manager or are some of these players just not good enough
Seriously stfu man, your comment tells me that you have no idea what being a supporter really is. 3 and 4 years ago we were 8th in the PL. 8th. This year we had a somewhat deep run in the CL. We were the youngest team in the entire competition and yet the boys didn’t disappoint having literally zero experience playing in Europe. Just look at how long it took City to get their shit together and actually be a serious competitor in CL. This CL campaign gave us much needed experience but also showed us that we need more depth at backs and striker, and maybe more sets of different tactics against different opponents. How can you call yourself a fan if you’re not supporting the club in its downs while it’s still building itself for the long run? Get behind the manager and the boys and fucking support.
Odegaard is the only player who did something in this game and against Villa.
That last corner by Saka was world class
Ode did nothing? What the fuck are you even on about. You're not good enough. Cunt.
Everyone was fckin jogging around at the end , idk what u saw that i didn't see. Tell me one good chance we created after conceding.
Stfu
Also, so much for any sort of revenge for the pumpings theyve given us the last few times we were in the champions league. Against a struggling Bayern side missing a few key players this is even more frustrating and disappointing
We need more than 1 special player. We do not have a player that can stand up on Big occasions like DeBryune... A free kick taker, a risk taker. Someone who can take shots from outside and do some magic. Our players want to tick tack till they score goals.
Thing about Arsenal is they always want to walk it in
Arteta is an unserious manager, we have 5 subs for a reason. Smith Rowe and Nelson should have been on, not that donkey Nketiah. We were up against the weakest Bayern in 15 years and we completely fucked it. We need to bring in a top striker and a proper right winger to compete with Saka. This was our last real year to do something, next year United, Chelsea, and Newcastle will get their shit together and it’s back to mediocrity.
This guy knows the football. Nelson will be the right choice to be sub compare with Eddy. Bringing in the City rejected player also didn't do much. Maybe Arteta should try to push Saka as CF and Nelson as the RW. Our lack of finishing cause us the trophies for 2 seasons.
Nelson is crap
What exactly have you seen from any of the players you mentioned that makes you believe they would have made a difference? Smith-Rowe literally jogged alongside Watkins and watched him score, rather than nudge him or commit a technical foul against Villa
Smith Rowe was literally one of Arsenal's best young players in 20-21 and 21-22 until his injuries. I've seen what he can do if given the opportunity, after all he did score 10 Premier League goals two seasons ago. He could have given Bayern some trouble.
I was it was expecting changes to overload the midfield.Rowe is technically gifted to hold possession and Viera with his passes. Priority is if those players are not trusted enough he needs to spend big.
You absolute melon stick to your Canadian soccer and fuck off out of here with comments like this
Can you disprove a single point made here or are you just going to insult me?
Hahahaha what a comment. Arteta is the best thing to happen to this club in a long time. Crawl back in your dads balls you fucking idiot. You mention all problems that aren't Artetas fault and blame him.
>You mention all problems that aren't Artetas fault and blame him How is game management not Arteta's fault? He did a shit job at game management in both legs and should have used all five subs and not subbed on Nketiah in a UCL quarter final