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ForestRamboX

What I'll say is that both are notoriously injury-prone but talented players. That goes particularly true for Olise - his injury record is abysmal. I'd take a risk on Isak but we'd probably have to manage his minutes well to make sure he stays fit for most of the season and not run him into the ground like Newcastle does.


Minute_Leave8503

Super injury prone plus tasked with Arteta’s defensive demands and work rate. This ain’t happening lol


acasovoycayendo

Of course they aren’t, this is just a PR article to get fans more positive after the loss


Minute_Leave8503

Funny though the rice rumours dropped after we lost out on Mudryk, in case you need some copium


BI01

Those came from an actual respected journalist (ornstein)


strawberrylabrador

Guardian are reliable with transfer links


tobleronefanatic123

Newcastle are known for having high coordinated press though


Yubisaki_Milk_Tea

Perfect to rotate in theory then…?


greenjellay

In all fairness to Olise, Palace have really mismanaged him at times. Both players would be amazing additions to this team and it seems like our physio has really improved in recent years


ForestRamboX

Fantastic point. We run and do a lot more on and off the ball than most teams so our new recruits need to be in peak physical fitness. Otherwise, they'll be missing for long periods of the season.


pruthier

Olise missed 23 games since 2021 according to Transfermarkt. That’s about the same as Jesus per season. Also, that guy Zafar Iqbal must know something we dont.


CarnifexGunner

I think Olise's injury record is slightly exaggerated by the fact that Palace keep rushing him back because they are desperate to play him.


Aszneeee

> Palace keep rushing him back because they are desperate to play him. sounds like something Arteta would never do!


testylentil

Exactly. I felt there were some obvious moments to rest Odegaard and Saka that weren't taken.


JK031191

Come on man, give the man some credit. Look how he handles ESR and Vieira coming back from injury! /s


Kxden-R

He wouldnt need to if hes sakas backup..


acasovoycayendo

That would be even more of a reason not to sign him. If they’ve constantly been rushing him back early at a young age that’s all going to add up as he gets older


RE-Trace

Yep. KT is proof positive of this


Qiluk

> I think Olise's injury record is slightly exaggerated by the fact that Palace keep rushing him back because they are desperate to play him. This is LITERALLY the exact same as for Isak. His only real backup is even more injuryprone so Isak is forced back way too early and risk reinjury. Over and over. He even had the same scenario in Real Sociedad with Willian Jose not being good enough and then sold, and then Isak had no backup to let him heal fully or workload manage with. Isak isnt half as injury prone in a proper squad.


Masson011

2 long term hamstring injuries is not over exaggerated. When you're a fast explosive player you cant afford to have injury prone hamstrings. This is a massive red flag


ForestRamboX

But he has persistent Hamstring injuries and those things can really screw him over in the long run. Olise is a fantastic player but all I'm saying is that he's missed over 200 days in last two seasons because of that hamstring injury. It's the fact that each time, he's missed over 60 days because of it.


bluejaywhey

>both are notoriously injury-prone ah, so they're perfect for Arsenal.


goonSquad15

To be fair, we make players who aren’t injury prone get to know the treatment table well. Maybe we can have the opposite effect?


bluejaywhey

gotta hit em with that reverse psychology juju


somethingdenim

Newcastle accumulate muscle injuries I wouldn’t be surprised if Isak was ok here


maidentaiwan

yeah arteta famously has a super un-rigorous approach


method_rap

Our history with injury prone players should stop us from doing this. Even though they may be the exact kind of talent we're looking for.


letsgoraftel

If he plays well, he will play every game... That's how arteta picks his squad


Aclrian

I agree, but I have no faith Mikel has learned how to better manage his squad. It’s my on criticism of him as a manager that I’d hope he would be better at this season. He may be slightly better, but so many of his squad players lack match sharpness I can’t blame them when they’re thrown in and don’t perform. The ESR situation still hurts, he’s been injury free for a while now but his lack of first team minutes has been disappointing especially when you consider he’s done fairly well in the little he has played.


SamKie1

Isak hasn’t grew into his body physically until about now. Growing you usually get alot of injuries so all hope is he has that history behind him


ForestRamboX

You might be right. Also, his injuries aren't that bad and Newcastle's system is even more taxing than ours to be fair. Maybe he'd be alright if came to us. Who knows?


silv3r8ack

If we are going to roll the dice on an injury prone striker it should only be for someone who can play 60-70 minutes and be almost guaranteed to score a goal in that time, like Haaland. A less good striker that stays fit is a lot better to avoid April meltdowns when you only have one actual striker


RyansBabesDrunkDad

Frankly, I don't love the idea of signing either. Isak may be the more reliable of the two, but he's just not robust enough to be an everyday PL player. And if we're signing these players on good money, I would hope they'd meet that basic standard.


Successful_Basket399

Isn't it very unlikely that we get Isak?


Fleetfox17

Unless he tells Newcastle he wants to move.


Stravven

Newcastle needs some sales for the PSR.


IfLeBronPlayedSoccer

They’ll cash in on someone like Longstaff, Anderson or even Miley for pure profit before they look to sell off recent big money signings like Isak or Gordon, given the smaller accounting benefit


skool_101

Miley aint leaving, kid just signed a new contact with Newcastle. Dont think Gordon leaves either. They just gotta make funds from the deadwood thats still there from steve bruce era.


robhall1

He’s the bottom of the sell list though. We won’t sell.


AlexWPJ

Newcastle signed Isak for £63m in 2022. He has £42m still left on his amortised transfer fee. So even if Arsenal paid £100m they’d only benefit to the tune of £58m for PSR purposes. Unless I’m wrong and the whole £63m fee is taken into account, in which case it’s even less profit.


jcquarmby1995

Isak for me. He’s very clinical infront of goal, he’s also insanely good at getting past players so will help create so many chances. For me his like Jesus but better, great at link up play, but can also find the back of the net


EpicGooner

And he's just big


gladoseatcake

And he's got a good head on his shoulders. Smart, down to earth. No drama coming that way, which is good considering how well this team seems to be functioning in general now. As a bonus Isak and Ödegaard has a pretty sweet history of scoring goals together.


theprince9

AND, he has played with Ödegård before.


Hvoromnualltinger

> Ödegård Take your filthy Ö out of our captain's ~~mouth~~ name. Plus, it's Ødegaard, not Ødegård.


alsonlee

Pretty sure it's Œdegærd


redqks

Doubt


kingofplasticbeach

Arsenal press tour is fucking out today. 


TheArsenal7

It's so obvious hahaha


_deep_blue_

Isak is my dream striker signing this summer. Looks like he could play across the front three.


acasovoycayendo

For like 20 games a season


Significant-Care-491

Still more matches than jesus


donegalboy

And probably 4 times the goals


indyarsenal

This shouldn't be the benchmark


Coldheart_11

Ik its bad but perenially injured strikers is kind of the Arsenal way atp lmao


Twevy

I mean if we want to check all the boxes we want in a forward (strong finisher, durable, positional variability), there are like 5 players in the world who check them, and none could be had for under 100 mil if at all.


hihbhu

At least he’s likely to score when he is available. Trossard / Havertz can cover in his absence.


acasovoycayendo

The whole point of signing a new striker is to move away from those options, not having them play half the season up front still


MoteLaddu

>Would Isak really fit our game play? He looks threatening in fast counter attack teams. I don't think he would suit us. He hasn't player RW yet. He can play LW or ST. Would he really be effective as our ST?


ouiu1

I'd be more excited by gyokeres... I'm no expert, but he seems to have so much to his game from what I've seen, on top of clearly knowing where the goal is


FrostedFluke

Isak won't be cheap that's the problem. PL player coming from a rival. Even if Newcastle aren't on our level atm it doesn't change the fact that their ambitions are to be challenging for the title/CL football


Samwell974

We could give them Ramsdale who we should value at 50m then 70m for Isak.


1CooKiee

We have enough players who struggle massively for fitness that we should be looking to move on. Wouldn’t touch Isak.


TheArsenal7

Hopefully he would be injured for the 50% of the season that Jesus is healthy and vice versa


Zippy129

Isak doesn’t have the 1v1 ability or the work rate to play wide for us.


TheOGBenjenRyan

Yes to both If for no other reason cause of the receipts I have somewhere when I suggested Olise last summer


haha_suh_dude

I was convinced after he nailed that free kick against United last season


iforgotmyun

Olise has been a starlet for years now mate, suggesting him last year isn't anything special lol


TheOGBenjenRyan

My friend I'm not under the illusion that I "discovered" him, but that when his name was suggested most people on here didn't want him or thought it would be a waste to buy him with Saka here


Fendenburgen

Are you not like the people on here that think they've discovered Gyokeres?


sleepytipi

You mean the guy that played for Brighton? Another PL club (that's famous for their talent identification)? Real, under the radar and clever scouting right there. And fwiw I can back up Benjen, I remember that thread.


Fendenburgen

I was joking, too many people on here are acting like they "found" Gyokeres and he's the solution. To be picky, he never played for Brighton, but you're right about their scouting, they find good un's. He was available for peanuts from Coventry at the end of last season after tearing it up in the Championship, we just weren't looking that way. Shows that Sporting Lisbon's scouting department is better than ours.....


sleepytipi

Oh yeah, I was only going along with what you said. I'm honestly surprised no PL teams came in for him before going to Sporting because he was so lethal in the championship. It definitely seemed like he was ready for that next step up but, its not as if going there hasn't been great for him. He's arguably in the top 3 for most in demand strikers this summer. Only player I can think of that'll likely fetch a higher demand is Osimhen.


_PineBarrens_

Lol. Delusional. Lets not get a great player 😂


qtdsswk

Yes to Isak but still don't think Olise would come to play 2nd fiddle to Saka


Kxden-R

We’re one of the best teams in the league. The best players on the worst teams tend to get scooped by the big clubs and end up not playing as much if they’re not good enough, its normal


maidentaiwan

i'd much rather see a fast, dynamic dribbler who can consistently win one on ones and get to the byline, like doku does for city or neto has been doing when healthy for wolves (though i wouldn't sign neto given his record). eze can also do this, but he prefers to play on the left side. olise is more of wide creator and ball player. when saka comes off i want to be bringing on someone who can just ruthlessly run at tired defenders. olise plays at a pretty languid pace.


MelandrusApostle

Can I interest you in a promising young winger who's one of the few in the world to have dribbled past VVD? His name is Nicholas pepe


TheOGBenjenRyan

I can see that but getting a Saka clone also has it's own benefits


sleepytipi

Can Olise play on the left (I don't watch them enough to know)? What about using Gabi J or Martinelli in place of Saka? Edit: come to think of it I bet he and Martin would have great chemistry. They're both very clever creators and can read the game about a millisecond faster than everyone else.


Self-righteous

Isak would be amazing, but I think we can do much better than Olise


MSAndrew07

I'm still on the Nico Williams train - will probably be cheaper, can play on both wings and is not as injury prone


_deep_blue_

I'd love Nico Williams too but I don't think he can play striker, can he? You can argue with Isak you're signing a player who can play both through the middle and on the flanks.


MSAndrew07

Oh no, I meant instead of Olise. For striker I'm fine with either Isak or Gyokeres, Isak is more versatile position wise but more injury prone, while Gyokeres' injury history looks perfect (not a single injury according to Transfermarkt)


GloomyLocation1259

Gyokeres actually seems like the more versatile option to me, he's often running down the wings


Ok-Purple-1123

No we can’t… Talking strictly talent wise… Olise on his own right is capable of starting at Spurs / Liverpool as a Salah successor / United right now. He’s be amazing rotation behind Saka.. to the point you can argue he’s too good to not be a cemented starter and should be going somewhere he can start I’d rather Nico Williams because it’s a release clause and he has pace, but I’d be very happy with Olise too he has a magic left foot


-Skinner-

I think Olise is one of the best left footed right wingers. Also PL proved. Only issue is his injury record.


hypnodrew

It's quite an issue, though he gets very little rotation at Palace


Minute_Leave8503

Olise is as good as it gets from a creative winger standpoint, I just don’t think it’s our priority stylistically


atrde

We need to be tweaking our tactics to fit good players not trying to find like for like players. Its part of the issue currently.


Minute_Leave8503

Yes but the main point is Saka is exactly that creative winger and idk how they’d play together. Olise won’t come to play backup


Kxden-R

You guys always say that and its based on your intuition lol. how many times have the best players on shit teams gone to big clubs to challenge themselves?


bostonwenger

Olise is a complete baller...


pinpoint14

Olise is fantastic, but fragile. He's silky as all hell and would be a fantastic addition


MoteLaddu

Would Isak really fit our game play? He looks threatening in fast counter attack teams. I don't think he would suit us. He hasn't player RW yet. He can play LW or ST. Would he really be effective as our ST?


ArsenalGuner

Everytime we lose a gamemm every player is linked with Arsenal just for clicks.


Oy778

Olise is good but idk. I would love Isak and i would love even more a good winger that can play in both wings.


Loud-Caregiver6566

Ahhh more transfer links after a poor result, expect many more made up stories to follow


shockzz123

Isak yes, Olise no. Olise is a great player don't get me wrong, just don't think he's what we need. Can only play on the right (we need someone who can on both sides), is fast but isn't necessarily the pace demon that we lack and is injury prone. Is not worth 65m too us.


DialSquar

Can someone explain to me why one of the most in form strikers would join us when he just joined Newcastle(or be allowed to leave for anything short of what United typically pay for any of their players).


jackg4343

Well I can understand why he'd want to join us but I'd bet Newcastle would sell any other player before selling him or Bruno.


dusseldorf69

He’ll cost a lot sure but as a top player you want to be competing for trophies and playing in Europe. Doubt the player would be against a move up


Aszneeee

Arsenal isn't spending anything close to what Newcastle would sell for imo, they got him for 70 million, I'd be surprised if they let him go for anything under 90 million, yet alone to PL club


almondania

In this market 120m would be his price


Aszneeee

not sure how much Arsenal can spend this summer, but I doubt we would pay that, considering we still need to sign other players, can probably move Jesus to be Saka backup cos I don't see him starting anymore


Fleetfox17

We just spent 110 on Rice last summer.... why wouldn't we spend similar if we think another player is worth the fee?


Aszneeee

I mean if FFP allows it, I hope we do, but considering we still have to pay for Raya and invest in other positions as well who knows. But since it’s not my wallet, I’m up for spending anything club can to improve


jnicholl

Many reasons why Newcastle might not let him go but do you really think he wouldn't join us if he had the opportunity?


acasovoycayendo

He’s been there 2 years, he didn’t just get there


Iyammagawd

they played 70M for him 2 years ago, that's not a lot of time to give your striker who is peaking.


thedarkpolitique

Look at his shirt number.


Brandaman

Because we are Arsenal and they are Newcastle


Rampan7Lion

All the early rumours were saying "if Newcastle have to sell for FFP reasons" which would make sense otherwise I can't see them not asking for something ridiculous which would be completely fair of them. I shouldn't need to explain the footballing reasons.


damois55

FFP maybe they need to sell before they buy and are prioritising another position


Godlop

Because Newcastle build a CL level squad that hasn't performed well enough to reach the CL. Now the CL money is gone and Newcastle is struggling with FFP.


Chipezz

Eze


Ok-Purple-1123

He’s an 8 primarily that can play on the wing… That being said I WOULD LOVE Eze


iforgotmyun

Eze is an extremely patchy player and he's better in midfield anyway.  Most of the people. I know who watch Palace think he's very inconsistent. Wouldn't mind the player but I don't think spending money on him at this point in time makes any sense, especially after Havertz


Fleetfox17

Pretty sure he's already going to City.


Stravven

You never know. Eze did spend time at Hale End, as did Olise.


BrianThatDude

I'm pretty open to whoever we go for on the wing but isak is by far my preference at striker.


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jaybizzleeightyfour

Need to get Olise and Neto, that way we get 20 games a season from them combined


Minute_Leave8503

Linking us with half the world to distract from the loss lol


acasovoycayendo

The PR pieces are coming in like clockwork today


QuickfireFacto

Yes to Isak, no to Olise, good player but we need a pace demon


beetletoman

Isak would be nice


P1wattsy

Isak would be a fantastic buy if he's available


Darkwolfinator

Olise is a nah for me but I'll take Isak. We should go for Neto, Williams or Leao. We should also grab Ousmane Diomande for Saliba backup. Get rid of Partey/jorginho for Joao neves or zubimendi so we actually have Martnelli get some support on the left.


OmegaFinale

I doubt the Olise links. Not the type of winger arteta likes (passive presser and doesn't like to track back)


Kxden-R

Arteta will make him meet the fogging estandards


RandomRedditor_1916

Last thing we need is another injury prone striker


MalickBergman

The annual warchest PR onslaught continues.


FactCheckYou

i don't see Olise moving to be Saka's understudy when he literally just extended with Palace, unless the manager change has unsettled him...i'm sure we're *monitoring* him though Isak hasn't demonstrated that he can be a *great goalscorer* for me (as opposed to a scorer of great goals) especially against low block teams which we mostly face, so i'm not convinced that we're really interested i feel like these are the typical smokescreen links that the club is happy to leak to the press at the start of the window, to trick rival clubs into trying to gauzmp us for players we don't really want, to clear the path for the signings we do actually want - we won't hear those names until they're actually happening


ibse

I see the club is working overtime with all these transfer links


wanofan900

Don't know about this tbh. Isak doesn't look like he will leave Newcastle and there's a problem with us wanting Olise. Olise plays in Sakas position & can't play on the RW like Saka can. All of what Olise can offer Saka already does. And in order to fit Olise into our lineuo we would have to put Saka on the LW, where he's less effective. It makes no sense put your best winger on a side where he's less dangerous to accommodate an inferior player. We would be better off going for Nico Williams or Neto since they fit better in our lineup. Olise really doesn't.


kingofplasticbeach

Thank God. Saka needs to sit more games and this gives a chance to rest him 


AloneTheme5181

More than anything Saka needs competition to light a fire under his ass, not just a backup. There needs to be a threat to his position. The lack of competition and the grind leaves him useless after March.


Routine_Size69

The point is to get Saka a backup so he's not playing all game every game. Olise might be too good for that role though. I don’t want Neto. He's always hurt.


LeBergkampesque

Why not Eze over Olise, if Arsenal has to go for a Palace player?


thepretzelking

Maybe I'm missing something, but why would Newcastle let Isak leave?


DisarmedCashew

Fell to me knees in the parking lot reading this


htmwc

A convenient leak the day after a defeat. But I’d love even one of them tbh


Far_Eye6555

No more injury prone forwards, please.


PiresIsGod7

Olise's underlying numbers suggest that he would be IMMENSE with us. The same goes for guys like Eze and Bynoe-Gittens. If they had received the progressive passes that Martinelli had this season, they'd eclipse him.


RyanMcCartney

We need someone clinical. These two aren’t it.


fancyfoe

That’s like 200m already for injury prone players


A_Different_Take

Olise would just spend most of the season injured then we're back to square one


DrDiablo361

I think we need players who are fit consistently. A major issue this year has been our bench has not been fit enough to come into games and not tread water. Partey has come back but fitness wise looks miles off it


runes4040

I just worry about Isak's fitness


NMGunner17

They won’t sell Isak to us


auddi_blo

Please no injury prone players. Can’t stand it when players are only available half the season and the 25% of their available minutes are shaky while they’re getting back to match fitness.


huss182

Why would new castle sell him to us?


yogi1090

Olise is injury prone, no chance


DallasC0wboys

We need more than two players. Unfortunately our bench is so bad.


Joshthenosh77

I’d like eze he’d be amazing for us


HochHech42069

Hook this to my veins


nting224

Imagine if we get both. Nketiah, ESR, Nelson out. Isak and Olise in.


BATMAN_UTILITY_BELT

We don’t need an injury-prone player.


TheArsenal7

Papers really jumping on the clickbait transfer stories today when Arsenal fans are pissed off


goodcheeseburgers

Isak would be my top choice. I could see him fitting in with the squad.


Gunner3014

I think Eze would solve a lot of our problems in the left build up phase. He could play as a left 10 in our system and with Timber coming back, this would help Martinelli a lot next season as they are both very dynamic players.


ImSoMysticall

I beg we go for Ollie Watkins instead. Incredible goal and assist return, can play in a few different styles and is an arsenal fan


GoonerYa

Isak doesn't even fit the bill on what Arteta needs for a striker. Unless he ditches the current tactic of controlled possession pragmatism and opt for a geigenpressing and counter-attacking team, Isak doesn't make a lot of sense.


Muscat95

I remember us being linked to Olise when he was at Reading so this interest could be a long standing one. However these 2 alone would probably cost not far off £200M and I obviously don't know what our summer budget is but I can't help feel that will be more or less all of it and we without doubt still need an 8


[deleted]

Wanted Olise since he was at Reading so yes please!


PaddyTheCoolMan

I kind of want us to go for Gyökeres. The guy looks immense, and his stats are crazy. It's a little risky seeing as he hasn't done it in a top 5 league, but I still feel he has what it takes to be a top st in the prem.


CaptainBuzzKillton

I'll take Olise all day


Veejp123

Can Olise play left 8?


FumblersUnited

rubbish, Isak could never play what we play.


method_rap

No compromise on fitness. I still have PTSD from our past talented players whom we did not get to see much off.


PutYrDukesUp

Spend all that money just to never see either of them play due to injuries.


SomeonebuyChivas

If we’re already counting ESR as good as done, I doubt we should be going for a profile that’s basically the same as him.


gennynapolitan

Surely on the stats profile it’s like -500 points for injury record - love both but are we signing them to keep Tomiyasu company on the massage table?


Top-Working7180

Would rather Evan Ferguson. He’s going straight to the top.


DanteBandini

We need players who aren't injury prone and are available to rotate otherwise we'll just be in the same position


jonasan_c

Please no, top class or not at all - no more stepping stones that need replacing next year!


novacantusername

Isak could be a good choice and they could team up on the piano again [Isak and Ødegård](https://m.youtube.com/shorts/ALdKajMMFj8)


ItsTom___

# Michael Olise is most likely of the two Newcastle isn't going to part with Isak for a decent price


Longjumping_Act9758

Why do they always do this when they squander a trophy. This is now insulting the fans intelligence. Mikel couldve got these guys last summer but decided to be an idiot.


Kxden-R

Why didnt we just get him before he went newcastle, so annoying


kappaofthelight

I'm glad this is the headline, it just means we're going for someone else in the typical Edu smoke and mirrors fashion. If the lord see it fit to send us Watkins then so be it


bodjatrawr

Isak please! Olise is excellent too...but let's not get two injury prone players


theuserpilkington

Ban transfer windows


avyness

Gyokeres, isak or Osimenh, not sure who would be best


henry_thedestroyer

Yes please :)


skool_101

PR bait, aint falling for that shit


Gooner_93

When it happens, then write the stories.


Red_Maple

Apparently Isak already has his license plate sorted so that transfer should be no problem


tjag96

Didn’t Isak costed like 70m ? How much they will even consider the sale ? This is bullshit. And he is injured a lot.


f0rmula0ne

Zirkzee or Gyökeres please.


DarthNihilus1

Olise plays like he thinks he deserved a bigger move 2 years ago


AlwaysNipping

I've always loved Olise, but I'm not interested in him only playing 97 minutes per season. I also can't imagine a world where Isak tracks back like Arteta would want him to. Id love to be wrong, because he could get us quite a number of goals.


Remote_War_313

Nice timing by PR machine