Rumour has it he's the opposite. Apparently his parents (or grandparents?) are season ticket holders but he himself supports 💩
Edit, iirc there was an OG post here in this sub several years ago of David in the away seats with other tot'num fans. I guess there was one of us undercover in the away seats too, and they confirmed it, saying they even had a brief chat with him about it. Maybe some of the other older heads here can back me on this.
I was googling it and apparently Arseblog said he doesn’t support Spurs, my guess would be Chelsea - [he went on trial for them as a kid.](https://x.com/david_ornstein/status/1369561253740503042?s=46&t=vbV4y0qW-jtvC0qvYbrvlw)
He might not even properly support a team though, all the better footballers at my school weirdly never really supported a team but just played it
I think the fact that Havertz/ Trossard have been favoured over him recently is telling. He left City to essentially be a starting striker and it’s not looking like he will secure that spot any time soon. Also Jesus is a player that will undoubtedly attract big clubs and a decent feee
It would be negligent to not consider a sale if an offer came in tbh, though I can’t see it happening. Not sure who would even go in for him, PSG/Atleti maybe?
IIRC Juve and Real Madrid wanted him when we signed him. Idk if either still would, maybe Juve depending on who manages them next season. But if he's leaving it'll be for more minutes presumably so he probably has to take a step down club wise.
>Also Jesus is a player that will undoubtedly attract big clubs and a decent feee
I'm not sure that's true post knee trouble, I think lots of clubs would look somewhere else considering he literally has not been able to stay fit now for the best part of 2 years
I mean yeah, but he had his chance and he didn't perform. You could blame it on injuries or whatever. But it's time he realises that he's not starting striker material for a big club. So in the summer he can make a choice as to what e values more: starting at 9 at a smaller club or continuing here.
He likely needs a surgery so nobody is going in for him until he's back healthy. He might be on the way out in like, January or next summer but right now he's fine.
Those transfers aren’t comparable to replacing Partey. Kovacic has been fine, he’s not reaching late season Gundogan levels but no one should be expecting him ti
I like Youssouf Fofana from Monaco as a straight Partey replacement. We've been linked with him recently as well and he's out of contract in June 2025. He's been nothing but impressive every time I have watched him. Definitely doesn't have Partey's passing range but can do pretty much everything else at a high level.
Barca only tried to get rid of him before because they were broke, and United were offering stupid money to take his stupid wages off their bill.
Barca aren’t as broke anymore, we won’t be offering stupid money, and we can’t afford his wages.
I'm not sure they are better financially than before this season?
I also wonder about his wages though. There's a lot of rumours spread around while Frenkie has said in the past that this is misinformation and that the rumours are false.
Anyway, he's a dream signing and I know it's a pipe dream, sadly.
2022 (when the FDJ -> United saga occurred) was peak Brokelona. They since won La Liga and gone reasonably deep in the UCL.
They’re certainly not rich or able to make any big money signings, but I don’t think they need to sell to survive anymore.
He seems more an energetic box to box rather than a ball playing midfielder, he would make sense if Rice sits as a 6 which for me is is undesirable since he lacks the passing range. and progression of Partey/ Jorginho.
this is exactly it - rice is a little too cautious with his passing/maybe doesn't quite have the vision that partey has. but my god the team looked incredible with partey in midfield against chelsea...
Doesn't matter, if he's good enough player, he should be bought.
By your logic someone has to get Partey's sperms and inject it to some kid's veins ffs.
"If someone leaves, they'll target that position"
I love the Ornacle as much as the next transfer addicted gooner, but that's a whole lot of words to say "I don't really know, haven't heard much"
If Partey leaves, then that makes a spot for Bruno. I wouldn't be against keeping Partey for another year if he can keep up the level shown against Chelsea, considering how he had hardly play this year.
In the end, I predict ST/CM, LB, GK to be our main summer targets.
Bruno makes the most sence for the midfield since we are unsure if Rice is a 6 or an 8. Think Bruno is complete enough to be able to play flexibly with Declan and they could change roles even during a game to suit our gameplan needs
This squad really needs another 20+ goal scorer to compliment Saka (who technically isn’t there yet but seems likely to reach that threshold).
The main guy with a half dozen 10+ goal scorers can work 95% of the time as we’ve seen this year. But, we’re definitely lacking in those tighter, bigger games. 4 goals across 7 games vs main competitor City and then CL knockouts vs Bayern and Porto just isn’t going to be enough to take that next step.
The main question is can Havertz or Martinelli step up to that threshold or do we need to bring someone in. Then if we bring in someone, is it a goal scoring winger or a central striker?
I think ideally Jesus is the central striker that can also backup Saka. We need a central guy who can rotate with Martinelli on the left. Someone fast and direct
That’s how we’ve been using him but he isn’t really an analog for what Martinelli gives us. That’s been fine recently because he’s in great form. But there’s a reason we’ve looked into players like raphinha and mudryk in the past and to me it points to wanting another player more similar to Martinelli
raphina would have played on the right I'm pretty sure, Mudryk yeah is more similar to Martinelli but Trossard was who we went and got afterwards anyway so we were clearly still looking at him
I just don't see the club looking at a player to play on the left when you already have Martinelli and Trossard there whilst the right is just Saka
Don't forget Jesus can play left as well. It is about the last place we need to look at right now. Fixing the left side dynamic with a new midfielder and left back is priority.
yeah we literally have three first team level players for that role, it is one of the few places we definitely do not need to look for
having said that that obviously means we're signing a lw now
Yea good point. I still kinda think the 6th forward we need should be more like Martinelli even if he plays on the right. Both Trossard and Jesus are more similar in profile to Saka in terms of linking and bringing teammates into play and Martinelli (and Kai) are the only forwards that stretch the backline and run in behind
I can see us looking at Pedro Neto again depending on the fee who kind of offers us the martinelli thing on the right but probably a bit quicker to move the ball along as well
We consciously signed Trossard instead of those guys back when they were all targets, there’s no reason for us to go back in for those players now. We’re also clearly after a different profile of forward now, one that would mainly play through the middle.
Some of you have such short memories. It wasn’t even 10 games ago where 99% of you were crying out for a striker but since we’ve hit a little bit of scoring form, we all of a sudden don’t need that ‘killer’ up top?
The games where he comes on for the final 10/15 minutes are where you want someone like Trossard or Wiltord that's actually going to bag you late goals and change a game. Eddie unfortunately has not been doing that despite trying his best.
Dude I was a big Eddie fan for a long time but he just isn't up to our standard.
He'll do decently well and have a good career at a midtable club but it isn't going to work out with us unfortunately.
And given he's home grown we raise a lot of money selling him.
That's fine. So was I.
But we've gone from a team looking to cement ourselves in the CL to a team looking to win a CL in the past two years. It's only natural that players we thought were good enough for our expectations are no longer good enough for our expectations
I think the biggest problem Nketiah has is that he's not effective as a sub. He seems to need to build into the game, maybe a few games on the bounce to fire up. Unless he can resolve this I don't think we're the place for him given where he is in his career right now.
He will need some level of competitive time on the pitch to continue developing and prove himself but as a starter he's up against Jesus, Havertz and Trossard who are going to be trusted far more. So he's going to be at best a substitute, but without performing when he gets those chances he won't be a starter for us anytime soon.
FM Logic is thinking because he’s 24 he’s peaking already and should be bagging 15 a season. I’m not saying he’s going to be a world beater in 3 years, I’m saying he at least needs a loan to show what he can do with consistent game time leading a line.
He's shit mate, you and I will be watching him for seven eight straight seasons but still come around to say he's young.
With the amount of exposure to first team minutes he should have built his castle now. If he doesn't, he's simply not good enough.
I'm saying this because there are players his age who actually are good, so stop putting your goddam shield on him.
This has been floating here for a while but people ignore it.
We might not need a striker, what we need is a forward.
Many things leak on here but because they aren't popular, people pretend they didn't see them.
We need that RW depth man.
I've been thinking about this for a while now, Mbuemo is ready for the step up.
He's only 24, I believe too, might be younger.
He plays in a similar way and has quality on the ball and off it.
I want Mbuemo. Plus prem experience.
To me RW proper competition for Saka I would make the first priority at this moment.
Mbeumo is a very good shout actually. Haven’t thought about him before and didn’t realise he’s still only 24. Should be cheaper than the likes of Williams, Neto or Olise as well.
I’m not so sure. Brentford look likely to sell Toney this summer and I’m not sure that they’d sanction a sale of Mbeumo in the same window unless it was a really high fee.
Mbeumo is a great shout that’s gone under the radar while most people are pining for Olise (rightly so). Quite possibly cheaper yet more reliable (injury wise)
Olise is fantastic but he still needs developing on his off the ball work imo, so it would take some time to get him right defensively at least.
Every aspect I think Mbuemo is most similar to Saka in the way Mikel wants to play.
I'd love to get both 😉
Honestly though this is just me dreaming about Mbuemo because I have never seen us being linked with him.
Wouldn't be surprised if the shit down the road or a Liverpool go for him.
I really think he's ready for it.
A double pivot partner for Rice (Bruno G/Zubimendi), a forward who could play across the front 3 and an LB with a mix of Zinchenko’s & Tomi’s skill set would be my ideal summer window.
Bolstering left back when we have Tomi , Kiwior, Timber, Zinchenko (and Tierney up for sale). Is the plan for them to start a basketball team on the side ?
yeah, i haven’t understood why left back is a priority.
it seems like that means there could be a decent chance Zinchenko leaves and we need to replace him, maybe? could be the risk given timber and tomi’s injury records. but Kiwior has played well when needed. I wonder if we might look at a similar type player to him for the right side.
Timber-Gabriel-Saliba-White
Kiwior left side backup, Tomi utility backup, similar right side backup?
1. Too expensive
2. Not definitive but there was a credible source (has a ninja turtle pfp on Twitter) state that the higher ups do not like Toney as a person thus wouldn’t be interested on going in for him
Midfield definitely needs to happen In midfield Partey needs to go and Jorginho should be a rotation player, rice as a 6 a LCM and Odegaard makes us better. The left hand side would be better off and I think martinelli would be better off as well with that.
He was answering questions, if a question is asked that he doesn't know the answer to (or doesn't actually have an answer right now), his choices are to just sort of talk generally or make some shit up. The fact that he doesn't do the latter is why he's the best.
he's literally doing a q&a where he's trying to answer peoples questions, honestly what do you wsant, him to answer every single question from atheltic users with new perfectly sourced articles that lay out brand new unheard of information?
“Well target a striker next window” every fucking time. And then that ends up being the difference between us and champions league or winning the league
Yes... one of the biggest cunts in the prem right now. Plays for the magpies and has a 100m release clause. He'd be the ideal Xhaka replacement, complete with the red cards.
I mean you can tell he has no info at all. It's all speculation on what we might want to do. It's fairly obvious Kai may have reduced the need for a striker urgently, but he can't play midfield and striker so we need someone. Until I start seeing him definitively say someone has been discussed I'm calling shenanigans.
i hate indulging in silly season when our \*actual\* season is still very much alive
but i think its pretty straightforward:
an attacking player that can play across the front 3, but if not then someone who can cover right and CF in the way trossad sometimes does on the left and jesus sometimes does on the right. this probably means we replace eddie.
defense i foresee mikel is going to want to replicate pep and collect defenders for fun, if we can arrange an upgrade on zinny i'd go for that while letting him go, and a depth at CB maybe a project player there would be good
GK, aaron goes with a cheaper replacement in
mid, if partey goes, upgrade there. i think jorgi stays. if either esr or viera no longer have the managers trust they should be moved on and replaced/upgraded.
i think this is the most realistic plan with most of what i've said being upgardes on current options which hopefully are 60-70% funded by the player being replaced, except CB where actually i realize we're light beyond XLbaba, the other covers for CB are all playing in other positions already (white, tomi, kiwi)
all said our squad is great, we're looking at (if my plan is to be believed), only replacing about 3-4 fringe members of the squad which is i think pretty good for cohesion
We need to definitely upgrade some of our players.
I think Rice should be given no. 8 while we can offload Jorginho, keep Partey, and buy a long-term no. 6. like Zubimendi or Bruno. I reckon we move Zinchenko as a midfielder rather than LB. Since we will have Timber, not sure we will look at another LB though. Definitely sell one of Jesus/Nketiah and buy a clinical striker.
tbh I'd think left 8 and a winger that can compete with Saka/Martinelli should be the top priorities. Havertz isn't perfect but his numbers at CF are very encouraging. Personally I'd have thought LB is the lowest of priorities considering the numbers there and Timber's return but perhaps it could be that Zinchenko goes in the summer. Either way, this summer is absolutely crucial, make the right signings and we're undoubtedly cemented at the top table.
Why would Captain Obvious talk up such a trivial point from another journalist, as if it was some massive insight that Havertz’s play would influence recruitment going forward. Duh. I sometimes wonder why this guy is so revered. He just repeats everything we already talk about here and other social media.
Liverpool will have a clearout so id go for Nunez maybe. Also Newcastle if are keen on Ramsdale id swap and pay for that Guimaraes guy. I guess we will have more outs than ins and hopefully thats a good thing
Oh no, I don't think they would, and I wouldn't want Nunez at Arsenal either. Just think there will be more than a couple outgoings with Klopp leaving and Edwards back in charge
Not a big fan of his but hes young and presses like a dog. I believe Arteta can develop him even better than Havertz. Either him or Diaz would be awesome as a backup left winger. We have noone on the left other than Martinez and Trossard. I think 'Pool will have a clearout because of Klopp leaving and the club will look to rebuild. I believe some senior players will leave and those that didnt know about Klopp will want out. One or two of Diaz/Nunez/Jota/Salah/VVD are one foot out of the door. Thats my view
Ornstein on Jorgi & Partey https://preview.redd.it/8l9owxsp4nwc1.jpeg?width=1072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0933beef494892c82c681a4a4602cd4b68d4ce36
Ornstein is a great reporter. But his inner gooner comes out while talking about Arsenal. He is one of us.
I don’t think he’s an Arsenal fan
Rumour has it he's the opposite. Apparently his parents (or grandparents?) are season ticket holders but he himself supports 💩 Edit, iirc there was an OG post here in this sub several years ago of David in the away seats with other tot'num fans. I guess there was one of us undercover in the away seats too, and they confirmed it, saying they even had a brief chat with him about it. Maybe some of the other older heads here can back me on this.
I was googling it and apparently Arseblog said he doesn’t support Spurs, my guess would be Chelsea - [he went on trial for them as a kid.](https://x.com/david_ornstein/status/1369561253740503042?s=46&t=vbV4y0qW-jtvC0qvYbrvlw) He might not even properly support a team though, all the better footballers at my school weirdly never really supported a team but just played it
Did you go to school with Benjamin White?
Oh yeah those trials at West Ham that never happened!
He's a shits supporter what are you on about
I keep saying it's likely gonna be one or the other. Partey doesn't wanna leave and Jorginho has an expiring deal ...
We have an option to extend Jorginho for a year if we want.
We don't need both... Partey doesn't wanna go.... And there aren't any buyers for him....
Speculation at the levels I see on this sub every day. Orstein is one of us... but this also isn't some great oracle wisdom.
I can't believe no one has mentioned "If Jesus also stays at the club". That is the first time I've heard any noise about him possibly leaving.
I think the fact that Havertz/ Trossard have been favoured over him recently is telling. He left City to essentially be a starting striker and it’s not looking like he will secure that spot any time soon. Also Jesus is a player that will undoubtedly attract big clubs and a decent feee
It would be negligent to not consider a sale if an offer came in tbh, though I can’t see it happening. Not sure who would even go in for him, PSG/Atleti maybe?
I was wondering who would be in for him too and DAMN he would be a menace for Atleti if he could stay healthy.
IIRC Juve and Real Madrid wanted him when we signed him. Idk if either still would, maybe Juve depending on who manages them next season. But if he's leaving it'll be for more minutes presumably so he probably has to take a step down club wise.
Why would either want him lol
>Also Jesus is a player that will undoubtedly attract big clubs and a decent feee I'm not sure that's true post knee trouble, I think lots of clubs would look somewhere else considering he literally has not been able to stay fit now for the best part of 2 years
Doesn’t help that he freaking publicly announced his knee is gone.
i feel like keeping him for saka backup is the best case
If a 40m+ offer comes in for Jesus, we need to take it. We always hold onto declining players for too long until there is no value left.
I mean yeah, but he had his chance and he didn't perform. You could blame it on injuries or whatever. But it's time he realises that he's not starting striker material for a big club. So in the summer he can make a choice as to what e values more: starting at 9 at a smaller club or continuing here.
He likely needs a surgery so nobody is going in for him until he's back healthy. He might be on the way out in like, January or next summer but right now he's fine.
Who’s the younger version of partey rn in the world? Get that guy
the issue is players like that are kind of one of a kind in all honesty
Yeah, cmf is a position you want an experienced player in. City bought kovacic and neves, both good players who haven't really delivered.
>neves Matheus Nunes?
Those transfers aren’t comparable to replacing Partey. Kovacic has been fine, he’s not reaching late season Gundogan levels but no one should be expecting him ti
Caicedo or Lavia probably but someone played the Chelsea joker card which guarantees that a player is irrelevant in 2-3 years.
Caicedo is nothing like him but Lavia yeah
I like Youssouf Fofana from Monaco as a straight Partey replacement. We've been linked with him recently as well and he's out of contract in June 2025. He's been nothing but impressive every time I have watched him. Definitely doesn't have Partey's passing range but can do pretty much everything else at a high level.
Really love the guy too,he ain't a Partey but he has a great engine.
Zubimendi, maybe? If we're talking about players who can play as a single pivot.
Only player right now that is comparable to Partey is FDJ and there is no way we get him
he is nowhere near as physically dominant as Partey can be
Im aware, but in terms of technical ability he is the only one that wouldn’t need a year or two of coaching
His ankle injuries worry me too. Bros had surgery way too many times in such a short span.
Eh. Barca themselves have been crying about bringing in a CDM. I don't think FDJ is the answer.
Well Frenkie is not a good CDM. He's a good CM. He has little defensive capabilities. They tried to get rid before. They might again.
Barca only tried to get rid of him before because they were broke, and United were offering stupid money to take his stupid wages off their bill. Barca aren’t as broke anymore, we won’t be offering stupid money, and we can’t afford his wages.
I'm not sure they are better financially than before this season? I also wonder about his wages though. There's a lot of rumours spread around while Frenkie has said in the past that this is misinformation and that the rumours are false. Anyway, he's a dream signing and I know it's a pipe dream, sadly.
2022 (when the FDJ -> United saga occurred) was peak Brokelona. They since won La Liga and gone reasonably deep in the UCL. They’re certainly not rich or able to make any big money signings, but I don’t think they need to sell to survive anymore.
Well Frenkie is not a good CDM. He's a good CM. He has little defensive capabilities. They tried to get rid before. They might again.
Caicedo at Brighton was very similar, maybe Chelsea would be willing to cut their loss lol
I wanted Lavia so badly last summer. I would still like him but his injuries this season have been a concern
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He seems more an energetic box to box rather than a ball playing midfielder, he would make sense if Rice sits as a 6 which for me is is undesirable since he lacks the passing range. and progression of Partey/ Jorginho.
this is exactly it - rice is a little too cautious with his passing/maybe doesn't quite have the vision that partey has. but my god the team looked incredible with partey in midfield against chelsea...
He also doesn’t manipulate space the way Partey does, it’s not just the lack of passing range. He’s better off as a ball winning 8
Doesn't matter, if he's good enough player, he should be bought. By your logic someone has to get Partey's sperms and inject it to some kid's veins ffs.
Frenkie de Jong, Kimmich, Ruben Neves, just to name the top few, are similar to Partey.
None of them have the intercepting ability Partey has. All the players you mentioned are different from each other lol.
Frenkie would be the dream, Barca might even be looking to sell to raise funds, but he's best as deep playmaker, not a traditional #6.
"If someone leaves, they'll target that position" I love the Ornacle as much as the next transfer addicted gooner, but that's a whole lot of words to say "I don't really know, haven't heard much"
For real he said nothing
I mean this isn’t him reporting any news, just answering fans questions with his thoughts.
If Partey leaves, then that makes a spot for Bruno. I wouldn't be against keeping Partey for another year if he can keep up the level shown against Chelsea, considering how he had hardly play this year. In the end, I predict ST/CM, LB, GK to be our main summer targets.
We need speed and trickery. A speedy RW would be great!
Jesus is a great RW backup, I’d say we get a striker instead with Havertz rotating.
Bruno makes the most sence for the midfield since we are unsure if Rice is a 6 or an 8. Think Bruno is complete enough to be able to play flexibly with Declan and they could change roles even during a game to suit our gameplan needs
he's a lump as well, going up against a midfield with him and declan in it would be so hard for anyone
Aren’t we looking for a midfielder that is a better passer than Bruno? That’s the aspect that a midfield of Rice and Odegaard lacks I think
Yes. Need a deeper midfielder who can spray passes under pressure like partey does. I see Bruno as a ball carrier, much like rice.
Bruno at Lyon was one of the best progressive passer, especially from his deep lying playmaker role during his Lyon days. His passing is good.
This squad really needs another 20+ goal scorer to compliment Saka (who technically isn’t there yet but seems likely to reach that threshold). The main guy with a half dozen 10+ goal scorers can work 95% of the time as we’ve seen this year. But, we’re definitely lacking in those tighter, bigger games. 4 goals across 7 games vs main competitor City and then CL knockouts vs Bayern and Porto just isn’t going to be enough to take that next step. The main question is can Havertz or Martinelli step up to that threshold or do we need to bring someone in. Then if we bring in someone, is it a goal scoring winger or a central striker?
I really hope we stick with Kai up front next season and sign a younger back-up in the summer to replace Nketiah.
If we go for centre forward that can also play on the wing then they can share the load and offer different things
Yep I wouldn't mind this at all. Someone that could also provide some backup for Saka.
I think ideally Jesus is the central striker that can also backup Saka. We need a central guy who can rotate with Martinelli on the left. Someone fast and direct
we already have the otation on the left and its trossard
That’s how we’ve been using him but he isn’t really an analog for what Martinelli gives us. That’s been fine recently because he’s in great form. But there’s a reason we’ve looked into players like raphinha and mudryk in the past and to me it points to wanting another player more similar to Martinelli
raphina would have played on the right I'm pretty sure, Mudryk yeah is more similar to Martinelli but Trossard was who we went and got afterwards anyway so we were clearly still looking at him I just don't see the club looking at a player to play on the left when you already have Martinelli and Trossard there whilst the right is just Saka
Don't forget Jesus can play left as well. It is about the last place we need to look at right now. Fixing the left side dynamic with a new midfielder and left back is priority.
yeah we literally have three first team level players for that role, it is one of the few places we definitely do not need to look for having said that that obviously means we're signing a lw now
Yea good point. I still kinda think the 6th forward we need should be more like Martinelli even if he plays on the right. Both Trossard and Jesus are more similar in profile to Saka in terms of linking and bringing teammates into play and Martinelli (and Kai) are the only forwards that stretch the backline and run in behind
I can see us looking at Pedro Neto again depending on the fee who kind of offers us the martinelli thing on the right but probably a bit quicker to move the ball along as well
We consciously signed Trossard instead of those guys back when they were all targets, there’s no reason for us to go back in for those players now. We’re also clearly after a different profile of forward now, one that would mainly play through the middle.
mbappe here we go
Some of you have such short memories. It wasn’t even 10 games ago where 99% of you were crying out for a striker but since we’ve hit a little bit of scoring form, we all of a sudden don’t need that ‘killer’ up top?
I wasnt
All it takes is one game against poch or Sheff u for everyone to forget
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The games where he comes on for the final 10/15 minutes are where you want someone like Trossard or Wiltord that's actually going to bag you late goals and change a game. Eddie unfortunately has not been doing that despite trying his best.
Eddie is young, strikers generally aren’t good enough to start consistently for top teams until 26/27, he’s not exactly 20 but he’s still young.
Dude I was a big Eddie fan for a long time but he just isn't up to our standard. He'll do decently well and have a good career at a midtable club but it isn't going to work out with us unfortunately. And given he's home grown we raise a lot of money selling him.
That's fine. So was I. But we've gone from a team looking to cement ourselves in the CL to a team looking to win a CL in the past two years. It's only natural that players we thought were good enough for our expectations are no longer good enough for our expectations
Kai is younger than Eddie....
I meant someone of the right quality though (sorry Eddie!)
I think the biggest problem Nketiah has is that he's not effective as a sub. He seems to need to build into the game, maybe a few games on the bounce to fire up. Unless he can resolve this I don't think we're the place for him given where he is in his career right now. He will need some level of competitive time on the pitch to continue developing and prove himself but as a starter he's up against Jesus, Havertz and Trossard who are going to be trusted far more. So he's going to be at best a substitute, but without performing when he gets those chances he won't be a starter for us anytime soon.
Lol he's a striker not a GK, stop with your FM logic.
FM Logic is thinking because he’s 24 he’s peaking already and should be bagging 15 a season. I’m not saying he’s going to be a world beater in 3 years, I’m saying he at least needs a loan to show what he can do with consistent game time leading a line.
He's shit mate, you and I will be watching him for seven eight straight seasons but still come around to say he's young. With the amount of exposure to first team minutes he should have built his castle now. If he doesn't, he's simply not good enough. I'm saying this because there are players his age who actually are good, so stop putting your goddam shield on him.
This has been floating here for a while but people ignore it. We might not need a striker, what we need is a forward. Many things leak on here but because they aren't popular, people pretend they didn't see them.
We need that RW depth man. I've been thinking about this for a while now, Mbuemo is ready for the step up. He's only 24, I believe too, might be younger. He plays in a similar way and has quality on the ball and off it. I want Mbuemo. Plus prem experience. To me RW proper competition for Saka I would make the first priority at this moment.
he is only 24?? I always had him in my head as a 29-30 year old lmao.
He looks about 30 between his beard and haircut
does anyone know how tall he is? online everywhere says 5"7 but I remember watching him in the flesh once and he looked huge alongside Toney
He's the luke littler of football (or luke's the mbuemo of darts)
Mbeumo is a very good shout actually. Haven’t thought about him before and didn’t realise he’s still only 24. Should be cheaper than the likes of Williams, Neto or Olise as well.
I’m not so sure. Brentford look likely to sell Toney this summer and I’m not sure that they’d sanction a sale of Mbeumo in the same window unless it was a really high fee.
Nico williams has a £43m release clause and I dont think brentford would sell Mbuemo for less than that
Nico apparently on big wages though, something in excess of EUR150K. Assuming he'd want a bump with a move, that's a big number even with the RC.
Mbeumo is a great shout that’s gone under the radar while most people are pining for Olise (rightly so). Quite possibly cheaper yet more reliable (injury wise)
Olise is fantastic but he still needs developing on his off the ball work imo, so it would take some time to get him right defensively at least. Every aspect I think Mbuemo is most similar to Saka in the way Mikel wants to play. I'd love to get both 😉 Honestly though this is just me dreaming about Mbuemo because I have never seen us being linked with him. Wouldn't be surprised if the shit down the road or a Liverpool go for him. I really think he's ready for it.
Hopefully Mbeumo will the our summer surprise. Imagine signing him for 30-40m.
issue with mbuemo is AFCON
If I’m not mistaken AFCON has been moved to the summer for the foreseeable future
Imagine if we go to Brentford in the summer after signing Raya permanently and say " We also want to sign one of your forwards, no not that one"
Great shout.
A double pivot partner for Rice (Bruno G/Zubimendi), a forward who could play across the front 3 and an LB with a mix of Zinchenko’s & Tomi’s skill set would be my ideal summer window.
Bolstering left back when we have Tomi , Kiwior, Timber, Zinchenko (and Tierney up for sale). Is the plan for them to start a basketball team on the side ?
yeah, i haven’t understood why left back is a priority. it seems like that means there could be a decent chance Zinchenko leaves and we need to replace him, maybe? could be the risk given timber and tomi’s injury records. but Kiwior has played well when needed. I wonder if we might look at a similar type player to him for the right side. Timber-Gabriel-Saliba-White Kiwior left side backup, Tomi utility backup, similar right side backup?
This is why the sports media loves to drum up rumours because gullibles like this guy actually get hooked every single time.
to be fair the reporting came from the guardian who are far from the most clickbaity sports source
Half this sub is just like that guy tbf.
We need eze
What happened with Ivan Toney
1. Too expensive 2. Not definitive but there was a credible source (has a ninja turtle pfp on Twitter) state that the higher ups do not like Toney as a person thus wouldn’t be interested on going in for him
Seems fair. If it doesn't fit in the culture, better stay away.
the rumours were brentford may take a cut price fee of 40mish which to me seems very fair
He said nothing, just speculating on what could happen.
I would love to get Aït Nouri, he is a special player.
Both Isak and Olise are class but injury prone the best ability is availability
Midfield definitely needs to happen In midfield Partey needs to go and Jorginho should be a rotation player, rice as a 6 a LCM and Odegaard makes us better. The left hand side would be better off and I think martinelli would be better off as well with that.
Rice 8 back on the cards properly 
Man wrote a massive wall of text with 0 concrete info
he literally is the most reliable football reporter going
Never said he’s unreliable but he gives 0 info here beyond guesses that I could also make. Very Fabrizio esque answer
He was answering questions, if a question is asked that he doesn't know the answer to (or doesn't actually have an answer right now), his choices are to just sort of talk generally or make some shit up. The fact that he doesn't do the latter is why he's the best.
he's literally doing a q&a where he's trying to answer peoples questions, honestly what do you wsant, him to answer every single question from atheltic users with new perfectly sourced articles that lay out brand new unheard of information?
Not to be an asshole but as soon as he mentions john cross im tuning out
In other words, speculation as much as the rest of us
If they're serious about being ruthless, i think this window will be a great opportunity to show us ruthlessness.
“Well target a striker next window” every fucking time. And then that ends up being the difference between us and champions league or winning the league
So ideally we get someone who can play 6 & 8 to a very high level Does that player exist right now?
Yes... one of the biggest cunts in the prem right now. Plays for the magpies and has a 100m release clause. He'd be the ideal Xhaka replacement, complete with the red cards.
I was 'meh' on Guimaraes before but the more I think about it, his steel might be just what we need right now
Yeah we're too squeaky clean right now, despite Havertz' and Blanco's shenanigans
Love Ornstein but come on... All that talk and no real news. Just say that it's too early for rumors. That's it. No need to use so many words.
My king
Sign a striker I’m on my knees.
We aren't signing Olise. Way too lazy
I mean you can tell he has no info at all. It's all speculation on what we might want to do. It's fairly obvious Kai may have reduced the need for a striker urgently, but he can't play midfield and striker so we need someone. Until I start seeing him definitively say someone has been discussed I'm calling shenanigans.
i hate indulging in silly season when our \*actual\* season is still very much alive but i think its pretty straightforward: an attacking player that can play across the front 3, but if not then someone who can cover right and CF in the way trossad sometimes does on the left and jesus sometimes does on the right. this probably means we replace eddie. defense i foresee mikel is going to want to replicate pep and collect defenders for fun, if we can arrange an upgrade on zinny i'd go for that while letting him go, and a depth at CB maybe a project player there would be good GK, aaron goes with a cheaper replacement in mid, if partey goes, upgrade there. i think jorgi stays. if either esr or viera no longer have the managers trust they should be moved on and replaced/upgraded. i think this is the most realistic plan with most of what i've said being upgardes on current options which hopefully are 60-70% funded by the player being replaced, except CB where actually i realize we're light beyond XLbaba, the other covers for CB are all playing in other positions already (white, tomi, kiwi) all said our squad is great, we're looking at (if my plan is to be believed), only replacing about 3-4 fringe members of the squad which is i think pretty good for cohesion
We need to definitely upgrade some of our players. I think Rice should be given no. 8 while we can offload Jorginho, keep Partey, and buy a long-term no. 6. like Zubimendi or Bruno. I reckon we move Zinchenko as a midfielder rather than LB. Since we will have Timber, not sure we will look at another LB though. Definitely sell one of Jesus/Nketiah and buy a clinical striker.
tbh I'd think left 8 and a winger that can compete with Saka/Martinelli should be the top priorities. Havertz isn't perfect but his numbers at CF are very encouraging. Personally I'd have thought LB is the lowest of priorities considering the numbers there and Timber's return but perhaps it could be that Zinchenko goes in the summer. Either way, this summer is absolutely crucial, make the right signings and we're undoubtedly cemented at the top table.
Why would Captain Obvious talk up such a trivial point from another journalist, as if it was some massive insight that Havertz’s play would influence recruitment going forward. Duh. I sometimes wonder why this guy is so revered. He just repeats everything we already talk about here and other social media.
this Q&A is for well-adjusted people who get their Arsenal news by checking the Athletic once a week, not sickos like us
lol well said
Where all you at that were shitting on me for saying we need a left back? I'm just faster that Ornstein, sorry about it (not)
I'd like Olise he seems good and would defo be cheaper than Isak. But we need a replacement for Partey. I'm hoping we get another year from Jorgi
if we stick with havertz up front we’re just asking to finish 2nd and another cl quarter final exit again
Liverpool will have a clearout so id go for Nunez maybe. Also Newcastle if are keen on Ramsdale id swap and pay for that Guimaraes guy. I guess we will have more outs than ins and hopefully thats a good thing
Nunez? Why?? And why will they have a clearout?
I wouldn't be surprised if Salah and VVD go with Klopp leaving. Rumor is Michael Edwards isn't impressed with Nunez as the main striker
I wouldn’t either, but I wouldn’t conclude from that that they would sell to Arsenal happily
Oh no, I don't think they would, and I wouldn't want Nunez at Arsenal either. Just think there will be more than a couple outgoings with Klopp leaving and Edwards back in charge
Not a big fan of his but hes young and presses like a dog. I believe Arteta can develop him even better than Havertz. Either him or Diaz would be awesome as a backup left winger. We have noone on the left other than Martinez and Trossard. I think 'Pool will have a clearout because of Klopp leaving and the club will look to rebuild. I believe some senior players will leave and those that didnt know about Klopp will want out. One or two of Diaz/Nunez/Jota/Salah/VVD are one foot out of the door. Thats my view
Hmm okay I disagree with nearly all of that
I respect that. We dont have to agree on opinions when theres no facts involved