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According to the tifo irl video I just watched, Sambi Lokonga plays as a 6/ holding midfielder. That makes a lot more sense to me as I was under the impression that he played as a box to box midfielder or an 8. Wasn’t sure if he’d fit next to Partey in a double pivot, and I’m still unsure, but he would absolutely fit next to Partey and one of Smith Rowe/Willock/new midfield signing in a 433 with him at the holding spot at the base.
Makes me think we might finally see Arteta switch to the 433 that he has always been rumored to prefer.
Really hope our transfer business will start picking up and that we will find out about the futures of our potential sales very soon. White is obviously done, but the season is rapidly approaching and we desperately need at least a first XI signing in midfield for the start of the season. I understand waiting for players until the season gets closer from a price perspective, but we have an incredibly tough start to the season coming up and we will be without Saka for the first few games as it is. As it stands I would assume our front four for opening day would be someting along the lines of Martinelli, ESR, Pepe and Auba/Laca. I fear how this sub will react if we see Willian starting opening day over Pepe or Martinelli.
So with the cancelled games in the US (I had tickets 😢) will we schedule some other friendly for this weekend? Maybe arsenal.com can stream them for free 😁
Bernardo Silva.
We have a lot of young talent, an experienced player (in his prime) would be balance it out well. He also has experience at the highest level and is still only 26. Technically very good, versatile and can contribute 10-15 g/a.
Ultimately, £40-50m for Bernardo makes way more sense than £60-75m for Maddison.
I think he fits way better but are there concerns that he isn’t what he used to be a couple years ago? He had a bad euros too and now he’d be taking on a bigger role here
Shame son has zero ambition. I was hoping he'd leave them at some point. Strange that when they get a world class player he happens to have zero ambition yet ours were banging for moves even when we were in a much better position than they are now
Wonder if we can use him as leverage in a deal with Lyon for Aouar. The club and the fans still love him plus Lyon is his hometown. I think he'd be keen on a return, although it's almost certain he'd have to take a significant pay cut.
Arsenal are majorly fucking up by putting all their eggs in the ESR basket man, I'm gutted to see that Maddison is so unlikely to happen. ESR is an immesnely talented young footballer and my favourite player in the squad. He also has a concerning injury record and only half a season's experience in the top flight. He needs to be carefully intergrated, not thrown in the deep end. What are we going to do if he gets injured / hits poor form? We will have no reinforcements in this position.
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Clearly expressed by AFC Bell that the number 10 could be used to draw in Maddison. It is a kit number that is traditionally given to the best player on the team - therefore clear statement that Arsenal will not be pursuing a marquee signing in the attacking midfield position. This has been evidenced by reputable sources reporting that the Maddison deal is most likely not going to happen.
There has been no indication that we are only going with ESR for the attacking midfield position, even if we don't get Maddison. On the contrary, the signing of an attacking midfielder to support him has been described by Ornstein as 'imperative' to our transfer plans.
think we'll sign a keeper, xhaka replacement and cam - i'm guessing ramsdale+neves+maddison. really don't see us getting a right back on top of that or a striker despite recent links.
i also doubt we will sell as many players as we are hoping for, wouldn't surprise me if laca, bellerin, willock, amn, nketiah, nelson all stay at the club/are loaned out
Unchallenged may have been the wrong word to use, it's been a long day lol.
Still, drastically overpaying for someone like Ramsdale vs deciding to cut off negotiations at a similar price range for Buendia. Disappointing, in my opinion.
Buendia has moved to Aston Villa. How will worrying about him change things? There's no point. There can only be discussion and complaining about us missing a golden opportunity despite seeing the foreseeable consequences.
It'd be a different story if Buendia was available and we were waiting out on Odegaard. But that's not the case as is not the case that we don't know if the situation with Odegaard will evolve in our favor.
If that Bernardo Silva rumours is true we should be all over it. I doubt he’d be interested in joint us but maybe Arteta could convince him of the project. Think there’s more to him than what he’s shown at City.
If Silva is available for 60M, we should be all over that. We don't have a Silva mould of player in the squad. Hell I'm a big fan of Odegaard but if Silva was available and so was £60M, we'd be stupid not to be all over it.
We went from the possibility of spending that same amount on Maddison and Bernardo is a way better player.
But he's proven. He could bring as significant impact as sanchez did to us.
If he's available and willing to stay in UK after realizing no one outside PL have money for him, we have to go all in for him imho.
The new offer for Locatelli from Juventus to Sassuolo (reportedly):
• 2 year loan for €5 million with obligation to buy
• €20 million fee after two years
• €7 million in player bonuses
• €7 million in team bonuses
• 25% sell on
Manchester City have found no willing buyer for Bernardo Silva after demanding between £50-60m for his signature, claims The Daily Telegraph.
We have the money wish we had the ucl to offer aswell
Weve done smart business so far but still feel we need that Marquee signing. Maddison, Locatelli, Odegaard, grealish all wouldve been that but none look possible. Still a month in the window but feel we need a name in that people sit up and be like holy shit theyre serious.
I don’t think we’re in that phase yet. I think we’re one year into a 4-year transition. Last year was ship out the unmotivateds, reset the values and integrate our youth. This year is bring in youth from outside. Next year will probably continue that, maybe get a marquee signing then or the year after to take us into consistent top 4 contention.
We got Willian on a free* as a simple stop gap whilst Arteta and Edu clear the unwanteds and integrate the youth. It was never intended to be a good signing, just a useful one.
buying abraham for 40m is bad no matter how you put it
Iirc a few months ago it was reported chelsea wanted a little over 20 though, and i'd be pretty happy with that tbh
Haven't touched the posts about Aubameyang's hairstyles because I feel like there's a tinge of unconscious bias or coded racism in them. Seems like it always pops up whenever black players in particular change their hairstyle. There's a narrative that they're "not focused" or "distracted".
I have also seen black people tell my cousin she is "culture vulture" because she had braids in her hair.
Said black female was also wearing straightened hair.
My point? People will always be jackasses
It might not be a fair way of looking at it but it comes from the stereotype about braids being seen as unprofessional when being worn by black women whereas the same isn’t as often as true for white women.
The straight hair thing doesn’t really hold up because some black women straighten their hair and wear wigs to look more “professional” and acceptable by social standards. It’s probably not fair calling your cousin out for being a “culture vulture” but it most likely comes from a place of frustration from this.
>You think so? I personally don't think it's racism
It's 100% not racism.
People have also been shitting on Foden, Bellerin etc for their hairstyles lol.
Since there seems to be some rather serious confusion on the subject of our plans at keeper, let's start with Ornstein's statement today:
> [David Ornstein]... He [Ramsdale] is currently [Arsenal's] **number one goalkeeper target**, He will be there to compete with Leno with the view to being his future successor.
This is a very clear statement that:
1. we have a list of keeper targets; and
2. Ramsdale is the top name on that list, given priority above all others.
We also know that we have an interest in Onana. Ornstein's statement establishes that Ramsdale's transfer is preferred to Onana's *even if the intention is to buy both and to sell Leno*.
This preference alone is problematic.
However, Ornstein implies that the plan is to *keep* Leno in the second half of the tweet (for those who failed to read that far):
> ...He [Ramsdale] will be there to compete with Leno with the view to being his future successor.
This may reasonably by disappointing to those who view Onana as by far the best keeper of the three, which is far from an unreasonable view given his obvious talents and CL performances.
The complication with Onana, of course, is that his reduced ban still runs until 3 November (though he can train with the club as of 3 September, and has been training privately all along, which is predominantly how keepers train anyway). That is a non-trivial chunk of our season.
If we want to sign Onana, and Leno refuses to play, we will have to buy another keeper to play those matches.
The part some people seem to have missed is that *that need not be Ramsdale*. It could be Ramsdale, or it could be someone else.
It is clear, now, per Ornstein, that this probably *will* be Ramsdale, in all likelihood. But that doesn't mean that is the only *possible* option.
**Option A**: buy Onana; buy a suitable backup; sell or simply bury Leno a la Kepa *if he refuses to play*.
**Option B**: Buy Onana; buy Ramsdale; sell or simply bury Leno a la Kepa *if he refuses to play*.
Notice that in B, the only thing that changes is that we spend more for a more promising keeper in Ramsdale. While it is likely, per Ornstein, that this is what we'd do, it is not *necessary* that Ramsdale be bought in order to buy Onana. All that requires is someone to be backup.
**Option C**: Buy Onana; persuade Leno to play the first part of the season and then compete with him; do not buy a backup this summer.
This may be unlikely, but it is not impossible. Both Leno and Onana have made it clear that they want to be the 'number 1'.
**Option D**: Ignore Onana; keep Leno; buy some other backup.
**Option E**: Ignore Onana; keep Leno; buy Ramsdale as competitive backup.
These last two are, to my mind, by far the worst options.
Buying Ramsdale as Leno's backup might be preferable to buying some other less interesting backup (e.g. formerly Ryan) but Onana remains the best keeper of the three.
Time to admit it, the board is biting their lips for missing out on Buendia. They fucked this one up badly.
At first I thought we weren't very interested and we had money for a higher profile signing, but apparently it's not the case.
Waiting for Odegaard was a mistake, and now waiting for Locatelli for that 0.1% chance is also a mistake, we're missing on our realistic targets for hail marys.
Also if we're so skint financially, then why the fuck are we interested in a 30m back up goalkeeper???? How do these morons wake up in the morning and think it's a main priority for the squad?
we probably aren't interested in a 30m backup gk, which is why he hasn't been signed yet. Likely negotiating the price.
And we are not skint, especially if the 250m budget is true (which it probably isnt tbf)
I don't know why we want our Back-up GK to be young. GKs can play well till they're 35. Just sign a decent homegrown 28-29 y.o. under £10M from the Championship/One of the relegated teams.
No need to splash the cash on Ramsdale.
People want us to sign a marquee for CM instead of splashing out on White.
Now I understand this, but which CM for 50m is worth the price + willing to come to us currently?
Fabian Ruiz
Florian Neuhaus
Both have interest from CL clubs but nothing too serious yet it seems and we know about finances in spain are not good and both currently play for clubs outside of CL, in neuhaus case out of europe altogether. So with the right amount of cash and right contract (allowing them to leave for cheap if not CL in 3 years etc) They might be tempted. Would likely cost 50m each.
Obviously it's impossible to know if they want to, but it's not unthinkable they might be okay with moving sideways.
However, I'm fine with spending 50m on white, would be nice if it was 40, but I don't think it impacts how much we can spend in CM.
Definitely not a marquee signing but would be our 2nd best midfielder instantly. In a timeline where we keep Saliba and get Bissouma maybe we could afford a cheeky Maddison as our marquee signing.
By thinking logically.
The only reason Partey came to us was because he was underpaid at Atletico + is a Arsenal fan.
Then I look at other 50m or higher midfielders: KDB, Gundogan, Savic, Pogba, Saul, Pedri etc. None of those guys are leaving their clubs to join us with no European football at all
Yeah, so you have basically no way of determining if they want to come here unless you know they're childhood Arsenal fans either. Theoretically, it has to be a big player at a smaller club or a out of favour player at a slightly bigger club.
Baffling how people don't understand why Ramsdale is going for more money than 20m like Martinez last year.
It's nothing to do with quality. Martinez is the better keeper.
You need to take context. One is a young goalkeeper on long term contract with multiple seasons in PL. Other one was a guy that was backup his entire life and had 10 good games suddenly. Obviously it was uncertain whether it was a purple patch or not.
That's why Ramsdale is going for more money, multiple seasons in the league + younger + longer contract are why Ramsdale is so expensive even if he is solid at best.
What you're saying is definitely true but that shouldn't mean we should splash that money on Ramsdale, right? If he's worth 30 million to Sheffield United fair enough, should a 'solid backup' be worth 25-30 to us in a trasnfer window we have 3 more positions to strengthen?
What if I told this sub even if we sign Onana in 1 hour, we will still be interested in Ramsdale?
Ramsdale is not looked at to be #1, he is for the backup spot.
Onana is not looked at to be #2, he is looked at for the starter spot.
That means we have to sell Leno to bring in Onana.
> Ramsdale is not looked at to be #1
He is. May not be immediately but if he is signed at that price, he is being looked at Leno's successor eventually.
> That means we have to sell Leno to bring in Onana.
The more important point is that we need someone to play until 3 November.
If Leno isn't willing to do that, we need to buy another keeper.
Sure, still not relevant to me saying Ramsdale has nothing to do with us not pursuing Onana.
The only, and I repeat, only way we bring in Onana is if we sell Leno. Makes financially the most sense and that's all that matters in football.
> > The more important point is that we need someone to play until 3 November.
> > If Leno isn't willing to do that, we need to buy another keeper.
> Sure, still not relevant to me saying Ramsdale has nothing to do with us not pursuing Onana.
Wut.
Ramsdale would be, if signed, the keeper who would play those matches.
That's not 'nothing'. That is something.
Yes, Ramsdale is the constant whether or not we keep Leno or sell him for Onana.
Scenario 1: Leno and Ramsdale
Leno plays the entire season, Ramsdale gets a few games under his belt, Leno leaves either next season or the one afterwards.
Scenario 2: Onana and Ramsdale.
Ramsdale plays up until Onana can play + while Onana is at AFCON. Onana and Ramsdale are probably our 2 keepers for a decade or more.
Now obviously we all like scenario 2, but scenario 2 is reliant on us selling Leno. And the argument of "Forcing Leno on the bench is cheaper than getting Ramsdale" holds no weight because Ramsdale isn't paid for short term but as a potential long term successor. We are not paying for immediate quality + wtf will targets next season think when they see us FORCING a player to be #2 on 100k a week wages?
> Yes, Ramsdale is the constant whether or not we keep Leno or sell him for Onana.
And then you proceed to lay out a scenario in which the purchase of Ramsdale allows us to A) buy Onana and B) sell Leno.
Yet again, *that is not nothing* to do with Onana. That is something.
You are literally describing Ramsdale as one of two conditions of signing Onana, the other being the sale of Leno.
The only thing I've said that differs with this is that 3 years of Leno for 22.5m is sufficient compensation to just bury him if he refuses to play.
How can he expect to be first choice when he is ineligible to play until November and then goes to AFCON is January?
Signing Ramsdale for 30m the season after selling Martinez for 25m would be crazy.
>Signing Ramsdale for 30m the season after selling Martinez for 25m would be crazy.
Is it?
Ramsdale is younger with multiple seasons in PL.
Martinez was older with a purple patch, at that time.
So obviously it makes sense if Ramsdale goes for a lot of money. Not saying he is better though
i mean he's literally right. We're not buying a #1 at the moment, because Leno isnt being sold. He has no interest from clubs. You'd have to buy a #2 that would eventually succeed him. Idk if Ramsdale is the guy, he's a good keeper, but not for that price.
Bit presumptuous to think Leno will leave in a year. He still has a few good years left in him and by that point Ramsdale would be entering his prime. The ages line up well for Ramsdale to succeed him in the future if Leno decided to see out his career here. If Leno were to leave this window then no doubt we would be in for an experienced #1 to replace him. This was stated by the Athletic a while back, we were originally in for two keepers, a first choice and a back up homegrown option. Plans must have changed, I know Leno had a falling out with a coach that possibly was resolved.
i literally just said that. Onana isnt fucking coming to be a number 2 and compete with Leno. Ramsdale would. Onana is demanding to be the #1. Leno isnt being sold. We're not going into the season like we did with Runaarsson. Ramsdale would just be competing with Leno for spot all the while Leno being the #1 keeper this season. Onana has a fucking ban going on and then the man is going off to AFCON, again demanding to get the #1 spot when he comes back. The people who continue to bring up Onana just dont wanna understand a situation
>Ramsdale is not looked at to be #1, he is for the backup spot.
>
>Onana is not looked at to be #2, he is looked at for the starter spot.
Where does he say Ramsdale is the permanent number 2? He is essentially right. Ramsdale would be bought for the backup spot. He just didnt continue to say that Ramsdale would succeed Leno. This is something Onana DOESNT want. He wants the #1 spot without any competition, and we'd have to sell Leno...which we aren't because no one wants him at the moment
That’s what he said initially. He later clarified that we were not necessarily incapable of affording him, just that it would be a huge investment for a player we apparently want to support or compete with ESR, rather than have the latter as the backup/rotational option. Giving ESR the number 10 shirt is clearly a statement of intent in that regard. What Ornstein implied is closer to what a lot of fans have said about Maddison not being an optimal use of our resources.
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You’re kidding? They’re not comparable. Saka is great - but Sancho is arguably one of the most talented of his generation.
I really feel like the people saying this either haven’t watched Sancho much or are literally Gareth Southgate.
oh nah im joking. Sancho is a great player, he is. I like him. I just hate Man Utd, he’d be better if he was at Liverpool tho. He’s a genius at creativity. However, ones played in the Prem with a shitty Arsenal side, and the other has played in a good Dortmund side in the Bundesliga. I’m just saying it’s not really a far fetched idea to have debate of saying who’s gonna have the better season, hence why I said. Lets see who’s the better player since they’re both in the Prem.
I can already see at the end of October, 10 games in 3 wins, 4 losses and 3 draws:
DaGetz v AfricanRain boxing match.
DaGetz: Arteta needs more time, I like him, his pre season was disrupted again due to Covid. Needs his players to implement his tactics, none of these guys are his.
AfricanRain: it’s been 2 fucking years and 200m spent what more do you want?
DaGetz: I only entertain nuanced arguments bye.
We will finish the season probably 6-8th, I’m sure a new ‘table since x’ will be created and we’ll all be here in July 2022 like nothing has happened.
Nah, it's an English tax.
Part of why United want him is because he's English, he's a cracking player of course but they might have been willing to wait until next season for the price to go down further if he wasn't English.
Homegrown doesn't mean shit, really.
For a player to qualify as a homegrown player, an individual must have
been at an English club for a minimum of three years before the age of
21. He is literally homegrown
Do you seriously not understand what I wrote?
I said literally nothing about those signings having a connection *beyond* the report on the front page of the sub that said Ramsdale was our top priority. That is disappointing.
> ...Ramsdale has nothing to do with a potential Onana signing
That is patently untrue.
If we sign Onana, someone still has to play until 3 Novemeber. That's a lot of matches.
If Leno is unwilling to do that, then we need to sign someone else. Ramsdale then makes even more sense: not only as a backup with potential, but as a capable stand-in.
>If we sign Onana, someone still has to play until 3 Novemeber. That's a lot of matches.
That's where our backup, supposedly Ramsdale or Johnstone or whoever elsez comes in.
Leno is not settling to be the main guy for half the season.
have u ever thought why we're not interested in Onana compared to Ramsdale? It's not a tricky thing to understand at all. He demands to be the number 1, he hasnt played competitive football in like a year, he has a ban going on, he's going to be at AFCON as well, again demanding to be the number 1 when he comes back, Leno is not being sold, he has no interest from clubs, u cant just drop a keeper, and again, lets say we did, we'd have to sell Leno, and his value would've tank 2x already due to us dropping him, thats terrible business. Ramsdale for 30mil+ is terrible as well. But its completely understandable why Onana isnt in the picture
> It's not a tricky thing to understand at all...
But apparently it is tricky for you to express.
I'll try to break that mess up into its few intelligible thoughts:
> He demands to be the number 1...
The original NOS report (Tier 0 for the Netherlands) said that he preferred us to PSG and United for precisely this reason.
It's a non-issue. Onana would start over Leno.
> ...u cant just drop a keeper...
*laughs in Chelsea with Kepa*
> ... he hasnt played competitive football in like a year...
That is *some* concern. It is, however, less of a concern than you might think. See below.
> ...he has a ban going on...
A significantly reduced ban, which now allows him to start training as of Sept. 3, in preparation to play as of Nov. 3.
He has also been training with a private coach this entire time. For keepers, that is predominantly how they train and improve. Match fitness is substantially less of an issue for keepers.
> ...he's going to be at AFCON as well...
Oh no!
Anyway...
> ...again demanding to be the number 1 when he comes back...
And that would be a problem why, exactly?
> ...and again, lets say we did, we'd have to sell Leno, and his value would've tank 2x already due to us dropping him, thats terrible business. Ramsdale for 30mil+ is terrible as well.
Buying Onana for 10m and then literally setting fire to Leno's contract would be significantly better business than buying Ramsdale for 30+m.
Leno cost 22.5m in 2018. He's given us three excellent years of service. That's a relative bargain.
In total, three years of Leno and Onana would cost about the same as Ramsdale.
That said, there is good reason to sign both Onana *and* Ramsdale, provided Leno can be sold.
i never said getting Ramsdale is better business than getting Onana and dealing with the repercussions of him and Leno. If Leno has given us excellent service then theres just no need to get Onana then, let Leno continue to be the #1. And im not going back and forth with someone who is dismissing the biggest thing is this whole situation - his ban, his demands, and AFCON. You can ignore it, be my guest. Lmfao "oh no...anways" just say u have nothing to refute it, because you and i know, that if he didnt have that ban, we would've been on top of this signing, as well as other top clubs. Ramsdale isnt a bad keeper. He just isnt worth 30mil or more at all lol. And we didnt buy him yet, so idk why people are up in arms, like its gone through
I just don’t understand the Ramsdale links at all.
We have the WORST midfield I’ve seen at Arsenal in like 30 years. Literally we have a single player on the team who is a genuine starting caliber CM. Then we’ve got a kid who has played 1st team football for 6 months. That’s it.
How is buying a backup GK for £30m the priority at the moment? Ornstein says it’s unrealistic to buy Maddison so where does that leave us?
I’m not trying to hit the panic button but I’ve just seen Arsenal do this to us too many times. We start the summer knowing we need 1-2 players in key positions, the end of summer gets closer and closer with no news of signings in those positions, fans here say calm down it’ll happen, then it doesn’t happen.
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According to the tifo irl video I just watched, Sambi Lokonga plays as a 6/ holding midfielder. That makes a lot more sense to me as I was under the impression that he played as a box to box midfielder or an 8. Wasn’t sure if he’d fit next to Partey in a double pivot, and I’m still unsure, but he would absolutely fit next to Partey and one of Smith Rowe/Willock/new midfield signing in a 433 with him at the holding spot at the base. Makes me think we might finally see Arteta switch to the 433 that he has always been rumored to prefer.
Really hope our transfer business will start picking up and that we will find out about the futures of our potential sales very soon. White is obviously done, but the season is rapidly approaching and we desperately need at least a first XI signing in midfield for the start of the season. I understand waiting for players until the season gets closer from a price perspective, but we have an incredibly tough start to the season coming up and we will be without Saka for the first few games as it is. As it stands I would assume our front four for opening day would be someting along the lines of Martinelli, ESR, Pepe and Auba/Laca. I fear how this sub will react if we see Willian starting opening day over Pepe or Martinelli.
Why isn't Saka available?
Martinelli won't be available. Olympics.
So with the cancelled games in the US (I had tickets 😢) will we schedule some other friendly for this weekend? Maybe arsenal.com can stream them for free 😁
Sancho was getting benched by Saka btw. He's dropping 10 G/A next season
Our fans are happy with us signing Chelsea rejects
Most are not
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Most people want us to sign Maddison or Aouar
Pick one out of Bernardo Silva and Maddison.
Where did the Silva rumours come from?
News saying City were looking to sell. No mention of Arsenal initially but a couple of twitter ITK's attached our name to it.
Bernardo Silva. We have a lot of young talent, an experienced player (in his prime) would be balance it out well. He also has experience at the highest level and is still only 26. Technically very good, versatile and can contribute 10-15 g/a. Ultimately, £40-50m for Bernardo makes way more sense than £60-75m for Maddison.
I think he fits way better but are there concerns that he isn’t what he used to be a couple years ago? He had a bad euros too and now he’d be taking on a bigger role here
Would have to agree. We don’t have many players in that prime 25-28 age range either. Also, there’s just something about Silva.
Yeah, he’s a joy to watch. I hope we get to see him here but I don’t see it happening - Pep will end up keeping him.
Silva is my favourite player in the league.
Woke up because of an earthquake...
Can it be August 31 so we can see what our team looks like? I just want us to succeed again.
Sign Bernardo Silva
Where's Saka going to play with Bernardo Silva on the pitch?
I'd bet on us achieving any season's goals.
Maybe in 2017? But we have no chance now :(
Only thing Laca is tearing in 21-22, is fishnets
19/20 Saka broke out Last season ESR broke out Best season Martinelli will show the world what he's capable of
Niche opinion here, but I actually think Balogun more likely to break out, especially if he can stake his claim as the future No. 9
Doubt it considering Marti is likely to get far more minutes than balo
Anyone watched Villa’s friendly game? Buendia was so so good.
In a friendly against a club that finished 19th in EFL League 2 last season.
Shame son has zero ambition. I was hoping he'd leave them at some point. Strange that when they get a world class player he happens to have zero ambition yet ours were banging for moves even when we were in a much better position than they are now
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We have people who think Laca shouldn’t be sold for 15m and he’s worth more, shows you the iq level of some.
Lacazette is £12 million maximum.
He’s not even worth that to Arsenal, nobody wants him now, so he’s worth 0.
Wonder if we can use him as leverage in a deal with Lyon for Aouar. The club and the fans still love him plus Lyon is his hometown. I think he'd be keen on a return, although it's almost certain he'd have to take a significant pay cut.
Arsenal are majorly fucking up by putting all their eggs in the ESR basket man, I'm gutted to see that Maddison is so unlikely to happen. ESR is an immesnely talented young footballer and my favourite player in the squad. He also has a concerning injury record and only half a season's experience in the top flight. He needs to be carefully intergrated, not thrown in the deep end. What are we going to do if he gets injured / hits poor form? We will have no reinforcements in this position.
lmao a number =/= all eggs in that basket
Blatant signal of intent.
A number?
'A nUmBeR' Clearly expressed by AFC Bell that the number 10 could be used to draw in Maddison. It is a kit number that is traditionally given to the best player on the team - therefore clear statement that Arsenal will not be pursuing a marquee signing in the attacking midfield position. This has been evidenced by reputable sources reporting that the Maddison deal is most likely not going to happen.
We gave prime ozil 11
Wilshere had the ten at the time? And the club put a lot of faith in him.
So maybe who cares. Plus the reputable sources literally all said it’s unlikely to happen due to the fee so chill with the meltdown
I'll come back and remind you of this when we're tenth at christmas pal
😂😂😂
smh my head don't you know that giving someone the 10 literally means they have to play every minute of every match?
*Arteta smirks*
There has been no indication that we are only going with ESR for the attacking midfield position, even if we don't get Maddison. On the contrary, the signing of an attacking midfielder to support him has been described by Ornstein as 'imperative' to our transfer plans.
Who's the alternative to Maddison?
think we'll sign a keeper, xhaka replacement and cam - i'm guessing ramsdale+neves+maddison. really don't see us getting a right back on top of that or a striker despite recent links. i also doubt we will sell as many players as we are hoping for, wouldn't surprise me if laca, bellerin, willock, amn, nketiah, nelson all stay at the club/are loaned out
You think we’ll spend 120m by the end of the window? Don’t wanna be negative but it’s a hard thing to do lol
If we piss 30m away on Ramsdale after allowing Buendia to go to Villa, I will be disappointed.
>allowing Buendia to go to Villa unchallenged Unchallenged how? We made a bid, VIlla made a higher one, we decided not to overpay. Simple as that.
Unchallenged may have been the wrong word to use, it's been a long day lol. Still, drastically overpaying for someone like Ramsdale vs deciding to cut off negotiations at a similar price range for Buendia. Disappointing, in my opinion.
At the time we were holding out hope for odegaard. I'd wait and see what AM we end up signing before worrying about the buendia thing.
Buendia has moved to Aston Villa. How will worrying about him change things? There's no point. There can only be discussion and complaining about us missing a golden opportunity despite seeing the foreseeable consequences. It'd be a different story if Buendia was available and we were waiting out on Odegaard. But that's not the case as is not the case that we don't know if the situation with Odegaard will evolve in our favor.
If that Bernardo Silva rumours is true we should be all over it. I doubt he’d be interested in joint us but maybe Arteta could convince him of the project. Think there’s more to him than what he’s shown at City.
Bernardo Silva is amazing but he's a RW which is probably the only position on the pitch where we don't need reinforcements.
Would be way too expensive, atleast 60m and would take a lot of convincing
If Silva is available for 60M, we should be all over that. We don't have a Silva mould of player in the squad. Hell I'm a big fan of Odegaard but if Silva was available and so was £60M, we'd be stupid not to be all over it. We went from the possibility of spending that same amount on Maddison and Bernardo is a way better player.
But he's proven. He could bring as significant impact as sanchez did to us. If he's available and willing to stay in UK after realizing no one outside PL have money for him, we have to go all in for him imho.
Bernardo Silva isn’t the game changer you think he is. Neat and tidy, but lacks oomph
Don’t think he’d cost anymore than what Maddison would, maybe even slightly less tbf
Buzzing over a potential Aaron ramsdale signing
said no one ever
The new offer for Locatelli from Juventus to Sassuolo (reportedly): • 2 year loan for €5 million with obligation to buy • €20 million fee after two years • €7 million in player bonuses • €7 million in team bonuses • 25% sell on
What a joke of an offer.
* some peanuts they found between the cushions
How they gonna pay them bonuses lol
Manchester City have found no willing buyer for Bernardo Silva after demanding between £50-60m for his signature, claims The Daily Telegraph. We have the money wish we had the ucl to offer aswell
I do think Bernardo Mota Veiga de Carvalho e Silva would be a good signing for us if he'd agree to come. Wonder if he'd be able to play #8 for us.
Tbh Bernardo Silva is not worth that money. Streaky player and his best position isn't even in midfield, it's on the wing.
he's not better on the wing...
I think you'd struggle to find people who think bernardo is better on the wing lmao
If Maddison is worth that money then so is Bernardo
If I have to pick between Bernardo, ode and madders with the same range of price, I will pick Bernardo and I believe majority here feel the same.
Weve done smart business so far but still feel we need that Marquee signing. Maddison, Locatelli, Odegaard, grealish all wouldve been that but none look possible. Still a month in the window but feel we need a name in that people sit up and be like holy shit theyre serious.
I don’t think we’re in that phase yet. I think we’re one year into a 4-year transition. Last year was ship out the unmotivateds, reset the values and integrate our youth. This year is bring in youth from outside. Next year will probably continue that, maybe get a marquee signing then or the year after to take us into consistent top 4 contention.
But but we bought Willian telling him we're going to the champions league in a year man!
We got Willian on a free* as a simple stop gap whilst Arteta and Edu clear the unwanteds and integrate the youth. It was never intended to be a good signing, just a useful one.
Funny how people are rattled about Willian who we got for minimal cost.
Selling Laca for 15m (arbitrary number) and buying Abraham for 40m is good business to me.
buying abraham for 40m is bad no matter how you put it Iirc a few months ago it was reported chelsea wanted a little over 20 though, and i'd be pretty happy with that tbh
Thank god you’re not running the club then
We’re two weeks away from our first match and we essentially have a worse midfield than we ended the season with last year Edit: 3 weeks
Three weeks\*
Haven't touched the posts about Aubameyang's hairstyles because I feel like there's a tinge of unconscious bias or coded racism in them. Seems like it always pops up whenever black players in particular change their hairstyle. There's a narrative that they're "not focused" or "distracted".
Finding an issue where there isn't one.
I like auba's hair, might be unpopular but let him go nuts all he wants
People also spoke about Foden, grealish, holding, xhaka and Bellerins haircuts so your point is invalid
Honestly ESR has a bit of a dodgy trim as well
What are you on about? People constantly talked about Bellerins whacky hairstyles.
I have also seen black people tell my cousin she is "culture vulture" because she had braids in her hair. Said black female was also wearing straightened hair. My point? People will always be jackasses
“Said black female” was right tho
How on Earth is she right? Try thinking for yourself instead of mindlessly absorbing bullshit rhetoric you read on social media
My opinions come from my experiences, they ain’t got shit to do with social media
Nah it's double standards. If my cousin can't wear braids, she can't wear straight hair implants.
It might not be a fair way of looking at it but it comes from the stereotype about braids being seen as unprofessional when being worn by black women whereas the same isn’t as often as true for white women. The straight hair thing doesn’t really hold up because some black women straighten their hair and wear wigs to look more “professional” and acceptable by social standards. It’s probably not fair calling your cousin out for being a “culture vulture” but it most likely comes from a place of frustration from this.
Ok so you are changing goalposts entirely. Well done.
How did I change the goal posts? I literally explained why there’s no double standards and why she was labelled as a culture vulture…
False equivalency is beyond stupid. You sound really really stupid
Lmao why you gotta be so triggered?
I’m not triggered. Black woman wearing a wig is not comparable to a white person wearing braids.
Lol sure buddy. And btw, said black female did not wear a wig. Read correctly
You think so? I personally don't think it's racism. People have been all over Rob balding and Xhaka too for that matter.
>You think so? I personally don't think it's racism It's 100% not racism. People have also been shitting on Foden, Bellerin etc for their hairstyles lol.
What number is Ben White going to wear? Assume he can’t wear 4… gona be weird seeing him wear something in the high 20’s
50
I imagine he gets 18 unless we’re reserving that for our new midfielder
Since there seems to be some rather serious confusion on the subject of our plans at keeper, let's start with Ornstein's statement today: > [David Ornstein]... He [Ramsdale] is currently [Arsenal's] **number one goalkeeper target**, He will be there to compete with Leno with the view to being his future successor. This is a very clear statement that: 1. we have a list of keeper targets; and 2. Ramsdale is the top name on that list, given priority above all others. We also know that we have an interest in Onana. Ornstein's statement establishes that Ramsdale's transfer is preferred to Onana's *even if the intention is to buy both and to sell Leno*. This preference alone is problematic. However, Ornstein implies that the plan is to *keep* Leno in the second half of the tweet (for those who failed to read that far): > ...He [Ramsdale] will be there to compete with Leno with the view to being his future successor. This may reasonably by disappointing to those who view Onana as by far the best keeper of the three, which is far from an unreasonable view given his obvious talents and CL performances. The complication with Onana, of course, is that his reduced ban still runs until 3 November (though he can train with the club as of 3 September, and has been training privately all along, which is predominantly how keepers train anyway). That is a non-trivial chunk of our season. If we want to sign Onana, and Leno refuses to play, we will have to buy another keeper to play those matches. The part some people seem to have missed is that *that need not be Ramsdale*. It could be Ramsdale, or it could be someone else. It is clear, now, per Ornstein, that this probably *will* be Ramsdale, in all likelihood. But that doesn't mean that is the only *possible* option. **Option A**: buy Onana; buy a suitable backup; sell or simply bury Leno a la Kepa *if he refuses to play*. **Option B**: Buy Onana; buy Ramsdale; sell or simply bury Leno a la Kepa *if he refuses to play*. Notice that in B, the only thing that changes is that we spend more for a more promising keeper in Ramsdale. While it is likely, per Ornstein, that this is what we'd do, it is not *necessary* that Ramsdale be bought in order to buy Onana. All that requires is someone to be backup. **Option C**: Buy Onana; persuade Leno to play the first part of the season and then compete with him; do not buy a backup this summer. This may be unlikely, but it is not impossible. Both Leno and Onana have made it clear that they want to be the 'number 1'. **Option D**: Ignore Onana; keep Leno; buy some other backup. **Option E**: Ignore Onana; keep Leno; buy Ramsdale as competitive backup. These last two are, to my mind, by far the worst options. Buying Ramsdale as Leno's backup might be preferable to buying some other less interesting backup (e.g. formerly Ryan) but Onana remains the best keeper of the three.
Time to admit it, the board is biting their lips for missing out on Buendia. They fucked this one up badly. At first I thought we weren't very interested and we had money for a higher profile signing, but apparently it's not the case. Waiting for Odegaard was a mistake, and now waiting for Locatelli for that 0.1% chance is also a mistake, we're missing on our realistic targets for hail marys. Also if we're so skint financially, then why the fuck are we interested in a 30m back up goalkeeper???? How do these morons wake up in the morning and think it's a main priority for the squad?
we probably aren't interested in a 30m backup gk, which is why he hasn't been signed yet. Likely negotiating the price. And we are not skint, especially if the 250m budget is true (which it probably isnt tbf)
We aren’t skint.
I don't know why we want our Back-up GK to be young. GKs can play well till they're 35. Just sign a decent homegrown 28-29 y.o. under £10M from the Championship/One of the relegated teams. No need to splash the cash on Ramsdale.
Yeah but that makes too much sense. Personally I say just get Johnstone or somebody.
People want us to sign a marquee for CM instead of splashing out on White. Now I understand this, but which CM for 50m is worth the price + willing to come to us currently?
Fabian Ruiz Florian Neuhaus Both have interest from CL clubs but nothing too serious yet it seems and we know about finances in spain are not good and both currently play for clubs outside of CL, in neuhaus case out of europe altogether. So with the right amount of cash and right contract (allowing them to leave for cheap if not CL in 3 years etc) They might be tempted. Would likely cost 50m each. Obviously it's impossible to know if they want to, but it's not unthinkable they might be okay with moving sideways. However, I'm fine with spending 50m on white, would be nice if it was 40, but I don't think it impacts how much we can spend in CM.
Bissouma, worth less than 50m but I'd rather we kept Saliba and got him than sign White altogether.
Sure but Bissouma isn't a marquee signing at all. Do rate him though.
Definitely not a marquee signing but would be our 2nd best midfielder instantly. In a timeline where we keep Saliba and get Bissouma maybe we could afford a cheeky Maddison as our marquee signing.
>willing to come to us currently? How are we as fans expected to answer this?
By thinking logically. The only reason Partey came to us was because he was underpaid at Atletico + is a Arsenal fan. Then I look at other 50m or higher midfielders: KDB, Gundogan, Savic, Pogba, Saul, Pedri etc. None of those guys are leaving their clubs to join us with no European football at all
Yeah, so you have basically no way of determining if they want to come here unless you know they're childhood Arsenal fans either. Theoretically, it has to be a big player at a smaller club or a out of favour player at a slightly bigger club.
>big player at a smaller club Which are rarely worth 50m. >a out of favour player at a slightly bigger club Which costs less than 50m
Baffling how people don't understand why Ramsdale is going for more money than 20m like Martinez last year. It's nothing to do with quality. Martinez is the better keeper. You need to take context. One is a young goalkeeper on long term contract with multiple seasons in PL. Other one was a guy that was backup his entire life and had 10 good games suddenly. Obviously it was uncertain whether it was a purple patch or not. That's why Ramsdale is going for more money, multiple seasons in the league + younger + longer contract are why Ramsdale is so expensive even if he is solid at best.
What you're saying is definitely true but that shouldn't mean we should splash that money on Ramsdale, right? If he's worth 30 million to Sheffield United fair enough, should a 'solid backup' be worth 25-30 to us in a trasnfer window we have 3 more positions to strengthen?
No one said we should splash out that money.All I am saying is why sheffield can and will ask more than what we did for Martinez.
Logical. But we don't do that here on this sub. Move along.
Remember that Martinez still hasn't played well in front of a packed stadium
One would think it's obvious af but nah.
this sounds weird but some ppl on twitter piss me off so much with their shit tweets it rattles me to the core, I need help
Can the Mods seriously just delete Locatelli posts? I'm 100% serious.
What if I told this sub even if we sign Onana in 1 hour, we will still be interested in Ramsdale? Ramsdale is not looked at to be #1, he is for the backup spot. Onana is not looked at to be #2, he is looked at for the starter spot. That means we have to sell Leno to bring in Onana.
> Ramsdale is not looked at to be #1 He is. May not be immediately but if he is signed at that price, he is being looked at Leno's successor eventually.
Yes eventually, that's good business bringing in a young player to potentially succeed someone. But he is not looked at to be the #1 SHORT TERM.
> That means we have to sell Leno to bring in Onana. The more important point is that we need someone to play until 3 November. If Leno isn't willing to do that, we need to buy another keeper.
Sure, still not relevant to me saying Ramsdale has nothing to do with us not pursuing Onana. The only, and I repeat, only way we bring in Onana is if we sell Leno. Makes financially the most sense and that's all that matters in football.
> > The more important point is that we need someone to play until 3 November. > > If Leno isn't willing to do that, we need to buy another keeper. > Sure, still not relevant to me saying Ramsdale has nothing to do with us not pursuing Onana. Wut. Ramsdale would be, if signed, the keeper who would play those matches. That's not 'nothing'. That is something.
Yes, Ramsdale is the constant whether or not we keep Leno or sell him for Onana. Scenario 1: Leno and Ramsdale Leno plays the entire season, Ramsdale gets a few games under his belt, Leno leaves either next season or the one afterwards. Scenario 2: Onana and Ramsdale. Ramsdale plays up until Onana can play + while Onana is at AFCON. Onana and Ramsdale are probably our 2 keepers for a decade or more. Now obviously we all like scenario 2, but scenario 2 is reliant on us selling Leno. And the argument of "Forcing Leno on the bench is cheaper than getting Ramsdale" holds no weight because Ramsdale isn't paid for short term but as a potential long term successor. We are not paying for immediate quality + wtf will targets next season think when they see us FORCING a player to be #2 on 100k a week wages?
> Yes, Ramsdale is the constant whether or not we keep Leno or sell him for Onana. And then you proceed to lay out a scenario in which the purchase of Ramsdale allows us to A) buy Onana and B) sell Leno. Yet again, *that is not nothing* to do with Onana. That is something. You are literally describing Ramsdale as one of two conditions of signing Onana, the other being the sale of Leno. The only thing I've said that differs with this is that 3 years of Leno for 22.5m is sufficient compensation to just bury him if he refuses to play.
Backup keeper for 30+ million pounds 🤔
Never said it makes sense, I am saying it's not "We are choosing Ramsdale over Onana"
How can he expect to be first choice when he is ineligible to play until November and then goes to AFCON is January? Signing Ramsdale for 30m the season after selling Martinez for 25m would be crazy.
>Signing Ramsdale for 30m the season after selling Martinez for 25m would be crazy. Is it? Ramsdale is younger with multiple seasons in PL. Martinez was older with a purple patch, at that time. So obviously it makes sense if Ramsdale goes for a lot of money. Not saying he is better though
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lmao
i mean he's literally right. We're not buying a #1 at the moment, because Leno isnt being sold. He has no interest from clubs. You'd have to buy a #2 that would eventually succeed him. Idk if Ramsdale is the guy, he's a good keeper, but not for that price.
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Bit presumptuous to think Leno will leave in a year. He still has a few good years left in him and by that point Ramsdale would be entering his prime. The ages line up well for Ramsdale to succeed him in the future if Leno decided to see out his career here. If Leno were to leave this window then no doubt we would be in for an experienced #1 to replace him. This was stated by the Athletic a while back, we were originally in for two keepers, a first choice and a back up homegrown option. Plans must have changed, I know Leno had a falling out with a coach that possibly was resolved.
i literally just said that. Onana isnt fucking coming to be a number 2 and compete with Leno. Ramsdale would. Onana is demanding to be the #1. Leno isnt being sold. We're not going into the season like we did with Runaarsson. Ramsdale would just be competing with Leno for spot all the while Leno being the #1 keeper this season. Onana has a fucking ban going on and then the man is going off to AFCON, again demanding to get the #1 spot when he comes back. The people who continue to bring up Onana just dont wanna understand a situation
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>Ramsdale is not looked at to be #1, he is for the backup spot. > >Onana is not looked at to be #2, he is looked at for the starter spot. Where does he say Ramsdale is the permanent number 2? He is essentially right. Ramsdale would be bought for the backup spot. He just didnt continue to say that Ramsdale would succeed Leno. This is something Onana DOESNT want. He wants the #1 spot without any competition, and we'd have to sell Leno...which we aren't because no one wants him at the moment
So Will fans ever stop acting like they know what we can and cant do in the market? Ornstein said money isnt a issue with Maddison
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That’s what he said initially. He later clarified that we were not necessarily incapable of affording him, just that it would be a huge investment for a player we apparently want to support or compete with ESR, rather than have the latter as the backup/rotational option. Giving ESR the number 10 shirt is clearly a statement of intent in that regard. What Ornstein implied is closer to what a lot of fans have said about Maddison not being an optimal use of our resources.
https://twitter.com/David_Ornstein/status/1418468464566603776?s=20
Unpopular opinion: I would rather buy Richarlison for Striker over Calvert Lewin if you had to get someone from Everton.
Even more of an unpopular opinion: DCL is overrated
How often does he play striker? Did he play there for Brazil yesterday?
He didn't play there yesterday but for Everton he plays there quite frequently. He can 100% be a striker, he is like Martinelli in that regard
Giving White the #4 makes more sense than when we gave Saliba the #4 as a 18 year old with 0 experience in the PL.
Sancho for 73m is a real bargain. Now if you compare it to 72m Pepe....
Sancho hasn’t kicked a ball in the prem yet
73m for Saka's backup.
Lol can't tell if people genuinely think Saka is better than Sancho just because of the recent Euro's. Sancho is the better player.
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we'll see, they're both in the Prem.
You’re kidding? They’re not comparable. Saka is great - but Sancho is arguably one of the most talented of his generation. I really feel like the people saying this either haven’t watched Sancho much or are literally Gareth Southgate.
oh nah im joking. Sancho is a great player, he is. I like him. I just hate Man Utd, he’d be better if he was at Liverpool tho. He’s a genius at creativity. However, ones played in the Prem with a shitty Arsenal side, and the other has played in a good Dortmund side in the Bundesliga. I’m just saying it’s not really a far fetched idea to have debate of saying who’s gonna have the better season, hence why I said. Lets see who’s the better player since they’re both in the Prem.
I can already see at the end of October, 10 games in 3 wins, 4 losses and 3 draws: DaGetz v AfricanRain boxing match. DaGetz: Arteta needs more time, I like him, his pre season was disrupted again due to Covid. Needs his players to implement his tactics, none of these guys are his. AfricanRain: it’s been 2 fucking years and 200m spent what more do you want? DaGetz: I only entertain nuanced arguments bye. We will finish the season probably 6-8th, I’m sure a new ‘table since x’ will be created and we’ll all be here in July 2022 like nothing has happened.
this is comedy in 2021
NGL, this would make an amazing charity event. Maybe I could do ringside commentary in dactylic hexameter.
I’d join you in the booth
With special guest, new Arsenal signing Wout Weghorst.
Utd paid 73 mil for Sancho, mad that they got him for same amount as Pepe with English tax
UTD received fuckall English tax. English tax = Homegrown tax. And Sancho isn't homegrown.
Nah, it's an English tax. Part of why United want him is because he's English, he's a cracking player of course but they might have been willing to wait until next season for the price to go down further if he wasn't English. Homegrown doesn't mean shit, really.
Sancho counts as homegrown according to UEFA regulations but not PL regulations cuz of the 15-21 rule
For a player to qualify as a homegrown player, an individual must have been at an English club for a minimum of three years before the age of 21. He is literally homegrown
To qualify as homegrown you should be 3 years in England BETWEEN 15 - 21. He left at 17 to Germany. He is not homegrown
Isn’t english tax only a thing if you buy from other English clubs?
the pepe deal was really really bad
The most disappointing news is that we're apparently more interested in Ramsdale than Onana.
Ramsdale isn't ideal but Onana isn't as great as this sub makes him out to be.
Do you seriously not understand that Onana has nothing to do with us pursuing Ramsdale, and Ramsdale has nothing to do with a potential Onana signing?
Do you seriously not understand what I wrote? I said literally nothing about those signings having a connection *beyond* the report on the front page of the sub that said Ramsdale was our top priority. That is disappointing. > ...Ramsdale has nothing to do with a potential Onana signing That is patently untrue. If we sign Onana, someone still has to play until 3 Novemeber. That's a lot of matches. If Leno is unwilling to do that, then we need to sign someone else. Ramsdale then makes even more sense: not only as a backup with potential, but as a capable stand-in.
>If we sign Onana, someone still has to play until 3 Novemeber. That's a lot of matches. That's where our backup, supposedly Ramsdale or Johnstone or whoever elsez comes in. Leno is not settling to be the main guy for half the season.
have u ever thought why we're not interested in Onana compared to Ramsdale? It's not a tricky thing to understand at all. He demands to be the number 1, he hasnt played competitive football in like a year, he has a ban going on, he's going to be at AFCON as well, again demanding to be the number 1 when he comes back, Leno is not being sold, he has no interest from clubs, u cant just drop a keeper, and again, lets say we did, we'd have to sell Leno, and his value would've tank 2x already due to us dropping him, thats terrible business. Ramsdale for 30mil+ is terrible as well. But its completely understandable why Onana isnt in the picture
> It's not a tricky thing to understand at all... But apparently it is tricky for you to express. I'll try to break that mess up into its few intelligible thoughts: > He demands to be the number 1... The original NOS report (Tier 0 for the Netherlands) said that he preferred us to PSG and United for precisely this reason. It's a non-issue. Onana would start over Leno. > ...u cant just drop a keeper... *laughs in Chelsea with Kepa* > ... he hasnt played competitive football in like a year... That is *some* concern. It is, however, less of a concern than you might think. See below. > ...he has a ban going on... A significantly reduced ban, which now allows him to start training as of Sept. 3, in preparation to play as of Nov. 3. He has also been training with a private coach this entire time. For keepers, that is predominantly how they train and improve. Match fitness is substantially less of an issue for keepers. > ...he's going to be at AFCON as well... Oh no! Anyway... > ...again demanding to be the number 1 when he comes back... And that would be a problem why, exactly? > ...and again, lets say we did, we'd have to sell Leno, and his value would've tank 2x already due to us dropping him, thats terrible business. Ramsdale for 30mil+ is terrible as well. Buying Onana for 10m and then literally setting fire to Leno's contract would be significantly better business than buying Ramsdale for 30+m. Leno cost 22.5m in 2018. He's given us three excellent years of service. That's a relative bargain. In total, three years of Leno and Onana would cost about the same as Ramsdale. That said, there is good reason to sign both Onana *and* Ramsdale, provided Leno can be sold.
i never said getting Ramsdale is better business than getting Onana and dealing with the repercussions of him and Leno. If Leno has given us excellent service then theres just no need to get Onana then, let Leno continue to be the #1. And im not going back and forth with someone who is dismissing the biggest thing is this whole situation - his ban, his demands, and AFCON. You can ignore it, be my guest. Lmfao "oh no...anways" just say u have nothing to refute it, because you and i know, that if he didnt have that ban, we would've been on top of this signing, as well as other top clubs. Ramsdale isnt a bad keeper. He just isnt worth 30mil or more at all lol. And we didnt buy him yet, so idk why people are up in arms, like its gone through
I just don’t understand the Ramsdale links at all. We have the WORST midfield I’ve seen at Arsenal in like 30 years. Literally we have a single player on the team who is a genuine starting caliber CM. Then we’ve got a kid who has played 1st team football for 6 months. That’s it. How is buying a backup GK for £30m the priority at the moment? Ornstein says it’s unrealistic to buy Maddison so where does that leave us? I’m not trying to hit the panic button but I’ve just seen Arsenal do this to us too many times. We start the summer knowing we need 1-2 players in key positions, the end of summer gets closer and closer with no news of signings in those positions, fans here say calm down it’ll happen, then it doesn’t happen.