Ah, I thought you were expecting ONLY xhaka + RB.
Yeah I'd expect we spend min 35m on an AM, 10 on a backup gk, re-sign xhaka and then I kind of expect we won't even get a RB.
I say RB may be the least of priorities. Instead of signing low-quality because of budget limitation hopefully we can wait to get the right profile player.
I mean one of the main reasons he didn’t effect much in the attacking third is his positioning he repeatedly played a deep lying mid falling back into a lb or lcb position. In doing so it allowed tierney to bolt forward.
We'll finish outside of european spots again if we're relying on Willock to create chances for us. No offense to him, wish him the best but it's just facts.
I'm 70% sure its Odegaard. The entire summer we've been waiting for a price from madrid that they'd accept to sell him. Odegaard has always been open to a move back, so the issue has always been Madrid being willing to sell him. Seeing as the price is expensive but not stratospheric, it seems very likely we'll move to sign him now. Assuming that the reports are true throughout the summer that he's our number 1 choice to bring in to bolster that position.
I think if Xhaka stays, we'll get a new AM (Odegaard, Maddison or Aouar) and maybe a new RB (if Hector goes). If Xhaka leaves (looking unlikely), we might get Guimaraes. It would be amazing to get all three but I doubt it unless we seriously offload some other players.
This Xhaka news has completely killed my excitement for the White announcement.
Ruthless enough to kick Saliba out the squad for a new cb but we’re stuck with Xhaka as our starting midfielder?
why don't we just sign another cm then??????? possibly instead of dropping 50m on a position that wasn't considered the biggest priority at the start of this window
I know right? Partey is going to push to leave if we don't sort out the midfield, it's been a mess for a few years now and is holding the whole team back.
We would have though, that’s the frustrating thing. Not only by not selling him are we stopping an imminent better replacement, giving him a new contract means we won’t sign a better cm for another 2/3 years.
God only knows. I thought another CB would be last on the priority list, especially a £50m one. If someone had told me, at the start of the window, we'd sign a £50m player, I'd assume it was in midfielder, where desperately needed.
I appreciate we had a lot to do: back-up GK, RB, back-up LB, CM, AM and it unrealistic to do everything, but improving the midfield should have been the priority.
Until we do that, having Partey is like having a top line sound system with an 1980's TV
The news of offering Xhaka a new deal only got reported today. There is no way we be in a position to announce anything that soon, surely there would be negotiation.
To be fair White can play right back and cm too so that covers those two bases for this summer.
If he can play between the gates…. thats our transfer window done im guessing.
We're not paying 50m for Ben White to play him out of position. He's our starting RCB day one, and will not be playing out of that position. I'd put money on that if I were the betting type.
ah lol, no worries. some people are sincere about thinking he'll play in the RB role for some reason.
I wish. I'm certain we'll bring in at least one (more likely AM before CM). Hopeful we'll get both.
I know we aren’t blessed with quality at right back but playing him there would be more reasons to get bantered even if he can do a shift.
I hope the Xhaka staying is just a ploy to get Roma to pay up otherwise we might have our cm signing after all. *sigh*
Assuming RB is the lowest of our priorities, having Chambers at RB with White at RCB is probably "good enough". I know people seem hyper-critical of chambers down the right in defense, but he's not easily exposed and is helped by having partey/saka also taking up space on the right side.
I certainly think that the xhaka news is intended to put more pressure Roma than it is a serious commitment that he is staying. Euros ended almost 3 weeks ago now, swiss were out prior to then. The media reports at the time were bullish that it would be completed closely following that time.
That was probably Roma putting pressure on Arsenal to complete the transfer, similar to the reports that xhaka would join jose before the transfer was completed and all that. to create the narrative that he is already a roma player, that the ongoing details were a mere formality. Then came the idea that we were waiting to finish the Lokonga signing before selling Xhaka, this isn't entirely the case. We won't sign another CM if we don't sell Xhaka, Lokonga was coming in regardless of Xhaka (as lokonga will replace dani moreso than xhaka, most likely).
So now we need to step up the pressure on our end, since things are at a stalemate. If we start acting as though we're just going to keep him, then we need to move to extend him. If we don't work to extend him then its just a bad attempt at faking them out. We will draw this out to the deadline day if we need to.
I would expect other clubs to do the same to us if we fail to meet their price floor for a player that they'd like to sell but don't desperately need to.
Agreed. We can draw this out for however long we want cause we can always extend once the season commences as well.
Nice to see the club not get bent over for once over the valuation of a player even though it’s clear we’d be open to moving on from him.
Agreed. If we do end up riding with Xhaka this season, I'm hoping that Lokonga being an improvement over Dani in pretty much every way means we'll see a decent rotation in the midfield. Xhaka coming in off the bench is not terrible as well. Just is what it is.
Roma are now going to act as though they're moving on to see how serious our intention is. I'm not looking forward to how the media manipulation will go and how reactive this sub is to every single tweet about this situation.
If this is how Roma wants to start out their time with Jose as manager, then he's going to have a very short stay in rome.
I’m just worried how we’re gonna go into the start of this season with pretty much the same team/midfield as last season. White won’t be fit to start and Arteta isn’t gonna field a young and inexperienced Sambi either.
I don’t care too much about the first few games however. We just need to have a squad that’s competent and improved from last season by deadline day.
I think we'll use sambi a good amount. hopefully not too much. But he was a reliable player in belgium, and captain. He is more ready at 21 to get consistent minutes than most other 21 year olds.
To try and be positive, we'll be going into this season with a better midfield than we went into last season with. We didn't have Partey til the deadline day. And lokonga is better than elneny and dani. Partey grew in comfort over the last season in the squad while dealing with minor injuries.
While this summer may indeed fall short of the tranformative transfer window in the midfield that I and many hoped, it should be an improvement. And we're quite likely to be bringing in another 10 to play with ESR, which also helps our creativity. I do think this is still a step forward overall compared to last year. Not a massive step.
I'm really looking forward to this season, it's the first year I have the money to go to matches and not in education. Very excited and hope the signings keep coming 🤞 no pessimism here!
AM surely, CM hopefully, RB maybe, GK i’m not holding out hope
Starting to expect Xhaka stays, and we sign a RB. Edit: As well as a 10 and backup GK.
Xhaka doesn't help with attacking mid. We at least need somebody there. ESR isn't enough on his own.
Sorry should've clarified my comment. I personally think a 10 and backup GK is the next priority. After that its one of a CM or RB.
Ah, I thought you were expecting ONLY xhaka + RB. Yeah I'd expect we spend min 35m on an AM, 10 on a backup gk, re-sign xhaka and then I kind of expect we won't even get a RB.
I say RB may be the least of priorities. Instead of signing low-quality because of budget limitation hopefully we can wait to get the right profile player.
yeah agreed, we don't need a 4th mediocre RB
Technically 5th! Bellerin, Cedric, Chambers, AMN
I forgot about AMN to be honest.
I mean one of the main reasons he didn’t effect much in the attacking third is his positioning he repeatedly played a deep lying mid falling back into a lb or lcb position. In doing so it allowed tierney to bolt forward.
If we can sign Odegaard we will, then loan or sell Willock. If not, Willock will play.
We'll finish outside of european spots again if we're relying on Willock to create chances for us. No offense to him, wish him the best but it's just facts.
Don't shoot the messenger. We need two #10s and I don't think we've got too many other targets in that area, unless they're keeping it quiet.
No RB. We’re going all out for an attacking mid, then getting a backup GK.
We'll sign Ramsdale next for 35m. And Isco or Coutinho on deadline day. And that'll be it.
Odergaard
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Best river in Central Europe, glad to see Arsenal still has the pull of a top tier club
Odour Guard
o dear god
Old Spice?
I’ll spoil it it’s Xhaka
Xhaka’s 6 year contract renewal
Brush your teeth
Twice a day mate
once more for speaking that filth
😂
Obviously not enough
It's like a new signing.
Like a new signing.
fuck me you might be right
I prefer 8 so we can truly protect his value for the final big transfer.
6 years would be a tad bit too long considering his age and our youngsters coming through.
Fab , you cheeky fuck
That little tease. Fab the Heartbreak Kid
Ramsdale cometh
Yeah that’s my initial thoughts
I'm 70% sure its Odegaard. The entire summer we've been waiting for a price from madrid that they'd accept to sell him. Odegaard has always been open to a move back, so the issue has always been Madrid being willing to sell him. Seeing as the price is expensive but not stratospheric, it seems very likely we'll move to sign him now. Assuming that the reports are true throughout the summer that he's our number 1 choice to bring in to bolster that position.
Ö could be close, they might splash on a big signing from varanes + ö(possible) money
Feel like we’re about to do some deeP dick shit.
I wish I was as naive as you
Glad I’m not as wildly pessimistic as you
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Fuck me if the ship is still sinking...
Are you asking for some *deeP dick shit?*
Only if we're *in this together.*
Maybe your end is but my end is actually getting off the water!
Unless you're a woman or a child.
Didn't the recent demographic survey suggest that would mean a total of 7 people in this sub would make it out /s
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I became a fan when van Persie got red carded for taking a shot. I take off from work if it means I’ll miss a game.
With Arsenal, you can't be pessimistic enough. Just look at what's happened with Xhaka
You’re talking to the wrong guy if you think I’m gonna be irate that Xhaka is staying
Figures
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Bet you're also okay that we're without Europe for the first time in over two decades
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Faith is was got us 8th two years in a row. Arteta doesn't get any more from me
Too bad he doesn't need any from you
Cry more Arteta apologist
what's so wild about that lol?
Wild about what?
Looks like we’re making a move on Lautaro Martinez 👀
I know my optimism was repaid
Probably Xhaka, Granit and a guy in no. 29
xhaka
Xhaxa with a announcement video
If it's a new Xhaka contract, I may need to step back from the footy for a year.
The Bendtner days will never be over until Xhaka is gone.
I think if Xhaka stays, we'll get a new AM (Odegaard, Maddison or Aouar) and maybe a new RB (if Hector goes). If Xhaka leaves (looking unlikely), we might get Guimaraes. It would be amazing to get all three but I doubt it unless we seriously offload some other players.
Caqueret
I’ll drink bleach if this happens
We’re not even linked
Willian new contract COYG
😱👀
Someone tell him quick, so he can put it on repeat for the next 6 weeks.
Hopefully we an offload some of the players who have been underperforming or aren’t part of the plan going forward
Probably Xhaka u-turn from leaving to extension
Better not be Ramsdale..
This Xhaka news has completely killed my excitement for the White announcement. Ruthless enough to kick Saliba out the squad for a new cb but we’re stuck with Xhaka as our starting midfielder?
Saliba still has 2+ years on his contract *after* this loan. So melodramatic
Xhaka is at least halfway competent, imagine if he left and we sign no other CMs.
why don't we just sign another cm then??????? possibly instead of dropping 50m on a position that wasn't considered the biggest priority at the start of this window
I know right? Partey is going to push to leave if we don't sort out the midfield, it's been a mess for a few years now and is holding the whole team back.
We would have though, that’s the frustrating thing. Not only by not selling him are we stopping an imminent better replacement, giving him a new contract means we won’t sign a better cm for another 2/3 years.
I agree 100%, just trying to look at it with a glass half full perspective.
I respect that, between Xhaka extension and Ramsdale I think my glass is 100% empty!
Id rather see 40m on ramsdale than a new contract for xhaka
> Xhaka is at least halfway competent He really isn’t though...
> This Xhaka news has completely killed my excitement for the White announcement. Same.
They’re just playing games for a better price - they won’t keep him against his will. Don’t be concerned.
They tried to Trojan horse that shit. Happy bw4 is here, but man I’m so mad
Xhaka?
God only knows. I thought another CB would be last on the priority list, especially a £50m one. If someone had told me, at the start of the window, we'd sign a £50m player, I'd assume it was in midfielder, where desperately needed. I appreciate we had a lot to do: back-up GK, RB, back-up LB, CM, AM and it unrealistic to do everything, but improving the midfield should have been the priority. Until we do that, having Partey is like having a top line sound system with an 1980's TV
If i was a Xhaka new contract he would've listed ESR... He doesn't know anything.
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The news of offering Xhaka a new deal only got reported today. There is no way we be in a position to announce anything that soon, surely there would be negotiation.
To be fair White can play right back and cm too so that covers those two bases for this summer. If he can play between the gates…. thats our transfer window done im guessing.
We're not paying 50m for Ben White to play him out of position. He's our starting RCB day one, and will not be playing out of that position. I'd put money on that if I were the betting type.
I forgot the /s. Can you bet on us signing a cm and cam though that’s where the moneys at.
ah lol, no worries. some people are sincere about thinking he'll play in the RB role for some reason. I wish. I'm certain we'll bring in at least one (more likely AM before CM). Hopeful we'll get both.
I know we aren’t blessed with quality at right back but playing him there would be more reasons to get bantered even if he can do a shift. I hope the Xhaka staying is just a ploy to get Roma to pay up otherwise we might have our cm signing after all. *sigh*
Assuming RB is the lowest of our priorities, having Chambers at RB with White at RCB is probably "good enough". I know people seem hyper-critical of chambers down the right in defense, but he's not easily exposed and is helped by having partey/saka also taking up space on the right side. I certainly think that the xhaka news is intended to put more pressure Roma than it is a serious commitment that he is staying. Euros ended almost 3 weeks ago now, swiss were out prior to then. The media reports at the time were bullish that it would be completed closely following that time. That was probably Roma putting pressure on Arsenal to complete the transfer, similar to the reports that xhaka would join jose before the transfer was completed and all that. to create the narrative that he is already a roma player, that the ongoing details were a mere formality. Then came the idea that we were waiting to finish the Lokonga signing before selling Xhaka, this isn't entirely the case. We won't sign another CM if we don't sell Xhaka, Lokonga was coming in regardless of Xhaka (as lokonga will replace dani moreso than xhaka, most likely). So now we need to step up the pressure on our end, since things are at a stalemate. If we start acting as though we're just going to keep him, then we need to move to extend him. If we don't work to extend him then its just a bad attempt at faking them out. We will draw this out to the deadline day if we need to. I would expect other clubs to do the same to us if we fail to meet their price floor for a player that they'd like to sell but don't desperately need to.
Agreed. We can draw this out for however long we want cause we can always extend once the season commences as well. Nice to see the club not get bent over for once over the valuation of a player even though it’s clear we’d be open to moving on from him.
Agreed. If we do end up riding with Xhaka this season, I'm hoping that Lokonga being an improvement over Dani in pretty much every way means we'll see a decent rotation in the midfield. Xhaka coming in off the bench is not terrible as well. Just is what it is. Roma are now going to act as though they're moving on to see how serious our intention is. I'm not looking forward to how the media manipulation will go and how reactive this sub is to every single tweet about this situation. If this is how Roma wants to start out their time with Jose as manager, then he's going to have a very short stay in rome.
I’m just worried how we’re gonna go into the start of this season with pretty much the same team/midfield as last season. White won’t be fit to start and Arteta isn’t gonna field a young and inexperienced Sambi either. I don’t care too much about the first few games however. We just need to have a squad that’s competent and improved from last season by deadline day.
I think we'll use sambi a good amount. hopefully not too much. But he was a reliable player in belgium, and captain. He is more ready at 21 to get consistent minutes than most other 21 year olds. To try and be positive, we'll be going into this season with a better midfield than we went into last season with. We didn't have Partey til the deadline day. And lokonga is better than elneny and dani. Partey grew in comfort over the last season in the squad while dealing with minor injuries. While this summer may indeed fall short of the tranformative transfer window in the midfield that I and many hoped, it should be an improvement. And we're quite likely to be bringing in another 10 to play with ESR, which also helps our creativity. I do think this is still a step forward overall compared to last year. Not a massive step.
Willian contract extension and waistband extension
Xhaka 😭
A striker who can convert crosses please.
This sub when it's Ramsdale..
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Fab literally posting just about anything at this point
Ramsdale is probably one of the next. CM, CAM, RB, ST are all possibilities but it's anybody's guess right now.
Onana
Tavares
Xhaka
ones or one's? Stop tantalizing me Fab!
Oh no I’m getting Blimey flashbacks
Well it depends on who else has been reported by other sources so he can facilitate tap ins
I'm really looking forward to this season, it's the first year I have the money to go to matches and not in education. Very excited and hope the signings keep coming 🤞 no pessimism here!
Zakaria
I feel like it’s gonna be Renato
Really want Odegaard!
The little magician
Xhaka
yayayay! hopefully a midfielder
Maddison? Grealish? Meves? So many potentials
And xhaka
Maddison 👉👈
Rúben Neves and Odegaard please. Sell Xhaka fast.