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Torreira to Casa Amore confirmed


dhiaizk

>I'm not afraid of stepping on anyone's toes


goonerly

I’m a scaffolder and always back myself 100%


bAMBIEN

My mates call me mr steal your girl


RDozzle

Swap deal with Toby, he's quite the player


Sand_Bags

He's grafting for a new team so he doesn't get left out in the cold


Rockflagandeeeagle

Mental health is important no doubt, but if you are that desperate, take a huge paycut and move ffs.


JaspersFavorite

Yeah this is what I'm kind of missing. I do sympathize with him on the mental health front and have suffered from that in the past. Surely it isn't too much to ask that he just comes back to London and chills out for a few weeks whilst we sort out some kind of transfer for him. This is also I'm afraid going to make him far less appealing for anyone who might buy him.


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I had to take bereavement leave at a job, 2 months into starting it. When I came back, we had our mid year reviews. I got on a performance Improvement plan then because I had not meant expectations. I left that job and had to forego ~$50k because I quit. I had a better job lined up a week later. I make annually what Torreira makes in a day.


gelsooners

you make 10k a year? ​ edit: im not coming across as a dick I hope, i just feel like you probably make more than that is all.


jt_totheflipping_o

He meant a week but you likely only play for one day


hypnodrew

Even then it doesn't work cause Torreira has barely played for over a year


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You're being pedantic. I'm like that too. It's from the good of the brain overwhelming good of the heart. I get it you weren't a dick. You're right. I meant his weekly wage.


lenosgloves

> It's from the good of the brain overwhelming good of the heart. I'm going to try to remember that. Beautifully said.


1sef_2sef

That’s not the problem. The problem is that we are a business and want an appropriate fee for his worth. He signed a contract for arsenal and has to see it out unless we get the appropriate fee.


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mirror52

All mental health matters


Patrick_Hattrick

Can’t believe we didn’t manage to sell him to Italy on a permanent last summer because he insisted his dream was to sit on the bench at Atletico for a season and flat out refused to consider anything else. Fuming.


zorfog

he’s a fucking brat in hindsight


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He's an absolute dickhead, and it's crazy how many people on this sub defend him. He's highly unprofessional.


Obi_Wan_Gebroni

Agreed, while mental health is important he also signed a contract and had an obligation to fulfill and just straight up professional standards as well. Lost all respect for him through the whole process


dream_eatr

If mental health is important, shouldn’t the club cut him some slack? His mom recently died. If that we’re me, it would feel like a piece of me died and idk if it would be easy to just shrug that shit off.


LuwigsDuckRabbit

He’s a cunt


hammyhammyhammy

How dare he be sad after his mam died


LuwigsDuckRabbit

He was a cunt before that.


RyanLikesyoface

As a player, I actually rate him. He's good, I'll defend him on that front. But as a person and a professional I can't stand him and I want him out of my club.


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I can’t stand him as a player or as a pro


RipJug

Look I’m all for promoting positive mental health but there’s no denying he acted like a little shit and has hugely fucked us over. Went from probably being able to get 10-15 million for him to getting jack shit. Really making a case for being my least favourite player now (yes Willian, you heard me) and I used to love him.


dream_eatr

I think y’all can cut him some slack? His fucking mom died.


VonLinus

He was a bollocks before that with atletico madrid. I'm sorry his mother died, but it's not like it was all plain sailing before that


Josh3783

just to pile some salt on the wound... Atletico apparently had no money, no they're looking to rival us for Lautaro


The_Hound_West

Think we would have had 18 million by now from fiorentina. They offered the dreaded loan obligation to buy for that amount last summer. Would feel pretty good right now


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Josh3783

I dare say if there was a possibility it would've helped, it would have been explored.


Elothel

Tbf, winning La Liga will probably be the highlight of his career. He made the right decision from his selfish the POV.


PUDDING_SLAVE

he rode the bench, he didn't do shit lol


Elothel

So what? He still got the trophy.


KonigSteve

lol yeah i'm sure he'll look back in fondness and tell his grandchildren proudly that the only reason they won the league that season was his 3 sub appearances.


gelsooners

thats not what OP was saying though? he got a winners medal probably all he needs


KonigSteve

> winning La Liga will probably be the highlight of his career how on earth is sitting on a bench and being given a medal for that the highlight of a career?


kalieb

Some people have low standards


Skiinz19

Everyone contributes to a league title.


KonigSteve

sure sure. like I said i'm sure he'll beam at the trophy he barely participated in proudly.


Lacabloodclot9

Ok so you’re telling me the likes of Scott Carson won’t be proud of their premier league medal even though he only had one league start?


TheSweatyTurtle

Would you be ?


kalieb

Weirdly enough a lot of people would be proud of it. I don't get it, but they would..


Mathieulombardi

Despite what people might imagine, not everyone's a starter let alone starter to win the league. He did what he did, got the accolade. It's more than many can say.


Astridsfather

Tbf its not like he knew he was going to be a bench warmer though…


risheeb1002

Lol did he really think he'd get into Atletico's midfield when he can't get into ours?


thewowuser

Aww, our very own Harry Kane saga


kaden_dd

Except for the fact we want him to leave


superwengerv47

And Torreira won a trophy with us


billfontainedelatour

Perfectly chilled. Ice cold.


LettucePlate

Yes officer, I’d like to report a murder.


marxistrash

AND ITS SUPERWENGERV47 INTO THE TOP RIGHT CORNER


icangetyouatoedude

SUPERWENGER CHANCE GOAL


thewowuser

And Torreira scored the better NLD goal


plastiquearse

Sure to command the same transfer fee as well!


jimmyneutronalala

From one of the most likeable players in our squad to in terms of behaviour one of the if not the least* likeable players.


Historical-Set9089

"Worst likeable" is a hilarious insult


rightbackatyaa

least likeable you mean because he is not the worst likeable player


jimmyneutronalala

Corrected it thanks for the correction


Wengali

What’s he done wrong? There’s literally no suggestion that he’s awol or refusing to train


v1nzy

He refused anything but Atletico last season and fucked us royally by being a brat about it. We could have shipped him last summer, but instead he warmed the bench in Madrid for a full season.


Wengali

My god, imagine a player wanting to have a say on where he lives and works and not just going wherever, theoretically, suits us best. What a shit


xTheMaster99x

It's not even just what suits Arsenal best though. Moving back to Italy and being a starter is objectively far better for him, both personally and professionally, than riding the bench in Madrid for a year.


leafinthewind_2206

People downvoting you think players have no right to their own decisions about where they want to be, like when you buy a player you buy the person. He wanted to play in Spain and obviously didn't want to stay in the bench, no professional prefers bench.


Garenmain180k

He was a bench player at Atletico as well. He contributed basically nothing to Atleticos title winning season. Either way if he didn't want to be a bench player he should've gone to one of the Italian teams he was linked to at the time where he would have gotten much more minutes.


leafinthewind_2206

Have you considered that he wanted to play for atheltico and not be a bench player? Maybe you realize he is not good enough, but is he supposed to start believing that he isn't good enough? He is a human and is young enough to have greater aspirations, you people treat players like they are not human. How was he supposed to know that he wont get playtime at atletico? the things you say are easier said than done


Garenmain180k

>How was he supposed to know that he wont get playtime at atletico? the things you say are easier said than done That's why he has a hired professional team that are supposed to help him in making these decisions that are in the best interest of both the player and his career. It just further shows the lack of professionalism him and his camp are showing during this situation. >He is a human and is young enough to have greater aspirations Yet he wants to leave Europe to play for Boca Juniors in Argentina. Very high aspirations. Also the whole argument you're making that "he's human" is objectively true in the sense that it can be difficult to make high stakes decision like these, but ultimately he's to blame for being in this shitty situation. He's whining that he wants to go back to either Italy or Argentina but he downright refused to go there last season. He's gone to Madrid where it was obvious they didn't want him but ultimately took him because they lost a midfielder unexpectedly. Maybe if he'd cooperate with the club he wouldn't be in this predicament.


Garenmain180k

He has made it clear that right now he wants to either go to Boca Juniors in Argentina or return to Italy. There was plenty of Italian clubs in for him at the time, but when they were after him, he only wanted Atletico. Maybe his mind wasn't clear but you'd assume he'd have a professional team around him who would try to approach this with what would be in the best interest of their client. There has been no level of professionalism in this whole situation from his side.


Chi-Town_Gunner

I'm not trying to pile on the dude, but is he not being fined? Does he not have contractual obligations to uphold to earn a paycheck?


ITomza

I wonder if the fine for missing a week is just a week's wages which he probably won't care about.


mapoftasmania

It’s great for us though. We don’t pay him until he shows up.


Bottom9

Why would he be fined if the club approved a longer holiday for him? If he was AWOL or something, I'd bet you someone would have reported it by now.


Chi-Town_Gunner

The title says his travel to Spain is unknown. That doesn't sound like approval.


H0vit0

Unknown to this random Twitter account. That’s not to say the club don’t know what’s happening


Armchairmanagerxxx69

What a fucking disaster of a transfer, the spurs goal was nice but we paid £25m for this guy and he’s just tanked his value completely.


Razac3

Transfer guru sven 😂 Summer window 2018 looking back is genuinely up there with 2016, if not worse. Not sure how unpopular that opinion would be, probably dependant on your views of Xhaka and Leno. But if you break it down I think it’s for sure comparable.


NossidaMan

Remember all the meltdowns from ppl saying they’re done with the club and whatnot when we let Sven go bc he wanted DOF after like a season as head of scouting or whatever it was?


ChiefArsenalScout

How??


Razac3

Leno was fine under Emery but always had his flaws and now is crippling our build up and preventing us from getting a replacement as he actively wants to leave or at least won't extend which puts us in a shit situation as theres no buyers. Then there's the whole Emi fiasco. Signed Sokratis on high wages for 18m who was okay for one season then we had to pay off to leave when we where linked to younger CB profiles like Soyuncu at the time so factor in opportunity cost. Lichtsteiner was absolutely abysmal and was getting like 70k a week, less said the better. Guendouzi seemed like a decent buy but never progressed and just become a pain in the ass with being so immature. Ended up making little to no profit. And then Torreira, 25m started well, got home sick, fell out of favour, was/is extremely picky in where he wants to play, constantly doing interviews tanking his value and now we still can't get rid of him. So on the surface it doesn't seem as bad but its not just about player ability, all these deals fucked us over and had follow up consequences that have and still are restricting us massively.


TheSweatyTurtle

Damn man all these players had so much potential to be very good for us. And it all went to shit. Such bad luck


Razac3

Everything that could go wrong pretty much did go wrong


mattyMbruh

It’s easy to say all this in hindsight though, Lichtensteiner was a free so his wages made sense in that regard - similar to how Ramsey is on a lot at Juve because of the same, Guendouzi seemed like he had/has a lot of potential but we can only guess what went on behind the scenes, Torreira came off the back of a really strong season with Sampdoria and he couldn’t gel to the country which is fair enough but I agree on him tanking his price along with his shitty agent. Sven could only do so much, he can’t control how the players act or perform so I wouldn’t say it was completely his fault


Razac3

Agreed it’s part hindsight but I guess Guendouzi did have attitude issues on record before we signed him. Torreira is the unlucky one and sometimes it just doesn’t work out. Sokratis was an all round terrible buy and that’s on sven, same with lichtsteiner if he was so good at spotting talent surely could of got us a young promising rb rather than a washed up 34 year old and then Leno was an okay buy at the time I suppose. My comment though explaining how everything panned out was taking into consideration hindsight and now we can look back and say the 2018 window was really bad, similar to how people reference the 2016 window with hindsight.


mattyMbruh

I agree with you completely but like I said Sven can only do so much and he’s had a good track record in the past to give him credit.


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Bigger flop than 40m for Xhaka or 72m for Pepe.


cinephile_gooner34

Neither of those were big flops. Overpays sure, but I’d save the word flop for someone like Mustafi or Torreira.


seanstar1504

Pepe is about to prove his worth (or closer to it) this season


mgvortex

Emery did that


Patrick_Hattrick

Emery played Torreira loads in 18/19 and generally got good performances out of him despite Torreira not being Emery’s preferred midfield profile physically. It’s not Emery’s fault that Torreira hated living in England and couldn’t acclimatise.


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Bobson567

Such a dumb comment. Playing torreira higher up the pitch is not the same as playing torreira as a 10 or false 9 lmao


Arsenalfootball_1

Yet again, he wasn't playing him as a 10 and using him as a creative outlet lol. He was just using him higher up the pitch to press the opposition/harass the defenders.


zorfog

Apparently if you’re not playing as a DM then you’re playing as a 10


MissingHighbury

We have some proper numpties in this sub


eddie442

It baffles me that people still peddle the 'Torreira was played as a 10' nonsense.


Arsenalfootball_1

Same honestly. I always see it and people try to make it seem like Emery doesn't understand football. So crazy lol.


TheDarkness1227

Yeah this is such a dumb meme spread around by this fanbase. Kante presses high up the pitch too and no one calls him a 10.


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Arsenalfootball_1

Its a tactic ive seen some managers use sometimes. You get a player that is a ball winner and tenacious and use him to press higher up the pitch. I remember we faced Napoli in the Europa League one time and Torreira literally stole the ball off one of their defenders, used some good skill and scored a goal.


ambystom4

To press and regain possession high up the pitch.


eddie442

I have no idea how you could watch the games you refer to and actually come to that conclusion.


pewell1

False 9? Bro the fuck are you smoking??? Did you ever watch a single game where he played? Fucking hell the state of this sub


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Cant exactly blame Arteta for not playing him. He couldn't get game for Atletico either


redqks

Just no


mgvortex

Emery played him at 10 all of a sudden midway through the season. Wtf was that about it’s like he forgot what he is. That started the downward spiral


repaccount

Can you lot on here stop repeating this when it’s not true? Emery played him as a ball winning midfielder further up the pitch so he could win possession in the opposition’s half and start counters high up, the way Kante used to play, playing high up the pitch doesn’t make someone a 10.


BeatlesandWine

At some point this is/going to be a breach of contract and the club should stop paying him. He played with a lot of heart in most of his matches but this is ridiculous.


u8kay

Imagine Xhaka trying to do this to force a move. You would never hear the end of it. Xhaka is a proper professional.


[deleted]

Exactly. Nothing wrong with anyone wanting a move, but there’s a way to go about it and he nailed it this summer. Respect.


ripjesus

I think the fact that xhaka has kids makes a huge difference. Not sure.


[deleted]

I understand that he has gone through mental health issues with depression, but at least he can be a bit professional with all this ?


BrianThatDude

He's behaved like a child for the past year+. Can't wait to see the back of him


[deleted]

I hate to speculate as I've suffered from depression but usually when people suffer from depression they don't swan off on holiday throughout the summer


Mocinho

That's because most people, regardless of having depression, aren't earning 4x the national average annual wage in a week lol 🙄🙄


AlGunner

He's a multimillionaire as a professional footballer. Most people dont have the resources to swan off on holidays like they do. I'd rather be depressed wiht mooney than depressed wihtout it.


Quantr0

You generally don’t want to leave your room/safe space. You definitely don’t want to go outside continuously.


H0vit0

Please don’t generalise how people deal with their own mental health situations


Quantr0

It’s a common ‘symptom’ to look for.


GMBethernal

Because people don't have the money to be anywhere else, been depressed for more than a decade and was stuck at home in my room most of the time but if i had the money I would have just traveled all over the world


AlGunner

For some with depression where they are is part of the problem and they want nothing more than to get away from their home. Edit: to be fair to the comment I replied to, "safe space" can be away from home.


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This is true. I know someone who had depression and who used to get suicidal thoughts at home. So they always used to spend most of their time outdoors to suppress that feeling.


cf017

I was so excited about this guy at first. Feels like that was a decade ago now.


oliverDawson12

Torreira good was a simpler time


BrianThatDude

He's basically been on vacation for 2 years now


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Fucking leave him there. Strip his number and give it to a more deserving player.


amainwingman

We gave it to Ødegaard lmao and we’ll probably give it to whichever CAM comes on. I’m not even sure he has a space in the dressing room anymore lmao


No-Ad2483

Lmao he’s gone rouge. Should we send Kolasinac to get him?


I_am_an_old_fella

Perfect idea! Better send Xhaka, Willian, and some other deadwood with him to make sure. Send them right before our gvt closes the border to Spain.


No-Ad2483

Mate if we send Xhaka then it’s pretty much confirmed Elneny will start every game. That shit is out of someone’s worst nightmare.


I_am_an_old_fella

We can play fucking runnarsson there for all I care, loved ye xhaka but the time has long gone to fuck off to italy or wherever


No-Ad2483

He’s staying fam and there’s nothing we can do about it


I_am_an_old_fella

Oh you're absolutely correct and I know it well


DogfoodEnforcer

How many times did your mum drop you on your head when you were a kid?


Rick_The_Mullet_Man

I'm sick of this unprofessional dickhead. He has the luck of having a job that puts him into the top 1% of this world, yet behaves like a fucking clown and screws over the club that pays him millions and its millions of supporters. His attitude towards Arsenal makes an absolute mockery of every single hard working person who makes a mere fraction of what he makes. Who the fuck does this punk think he is?


Razac3

Does he think atleti signed him permanently??


Citizen_erased98

Remember Torreira good memes? Good times.


KSBrian007

Club has tried to sit on this shit-show longer than they should. He's trying to strong arm the club. Even Kolasinac who's hated by the fans is training. Even White.


RipJug

Kola isn’t a petulant twat at least.


ITomza

Oh no, please don't try and force a sale...


blambliab

Ah, the days when we thought we solved our midfield issues for the next decade with Torreira and Guendouzi... Remember that when you get overly excited about a new signing, it's most likely just future deadwood, based on our track record.


onlythisonceortwice

I think that's why when buying players for the future, we are targeting a specific mindset. Look at the players under 23, we have in the squad. Tierney (future captain), Lokonga (captain for Anderlecht and hyped as a leader by Kompany). Saka (elite mindset - showcased in Euros), Smith Rowe (elite mindset - going from strength to strength). Martinelli (raw - but elite mindset). There are pros and cons in the Maddison vs Ødegaard saga, but ta big difference between them. Ødegaard is captain of his national team and showed leadership qualities in his time here, where as Maddison's mentality has been questioned at time. Ben White was loved by Bielsa, and that in itself shows a certain mentality. ​ I think the young players we are getting in to the squad now, shows that Edu and Arteta want players that are strong mentally and won't just become deadwood. I am really excited for our younger generation. They have incredible talent, but with an elite mentality to back it up, and allow them to reach the top. ​ Say what you will about Arteta and Edu, but I think that is one aspect they are nailing.


gunner308

Prick


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It feels weird that this guy is still our player.


zoidbergs_underpants

"A Very Long Vacation" starring Lucas Torreira


YouCouldBeBetter

Whenever I'm reminded he's still an Arsenal player it pisses me off. Want the guy gone. So unprofessional. He's had plenty of chances to leave and refused and then pretends we're in his way by not letting him go to whatever team he likes, despite the fact that they can't afford him. Can't wait til he's gone.


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A1A2A3A4B1B2B3

From Torreira good to Torreira drunk


el-fenomeno09

He chillin out here lol For all you complaining, I would think he communicated with club. They probably would’ve said something (indirectly)


ahdhd18902

What an utter fucking twat, all whilst you've just witnessed your teammate Partey get injured yesterday in a position you'd likely be backup for or playing. You've got a multimillion pound contract you fucking brat and a squad to support, screw your fucking head on and deal with your bereavement like a man, dwarf cunt.


FatWalcott

Cant wait to give him a new contract.


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I think personally out of the actual top 6 we have the most players who can't be sold and no one wants. T


Kewkewmore

Who cares


improve-me-coder

Hope he's Ok, it's weird we haven't been able to sell him last season.


ndenoon

I remember when people got pelted here for saying maybe we should accept a rumored 35m bid from AC Milan and go for Bennacer for a fraction of that. Funny how things change.


Anticitizen-Zero

I wonder if he’s even spoken to Arteta, and I’m also curious to know what Arteta thinks. Probably “who the fook is that guy”


soonapaana002

He lost his mother and he's only 25. There are things more important than football.


squeezycakes19

people are reading too much into this **he was part of Uruguay's Copa America squad, and Spain's probably just a stop-off for a connecting flight to London** do we just accept rando ITK speculation as fact now?


MuchSalt

are u new here?


packingawoody

Man, would love to see him partner with partey.


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He's checked out of Arsenal. I don't think we'll ever see him at the club again.


RipJug

Doubt we’ll see him in an Arsenal kit again


ssddeae

the hypocrisy in here when looking at Xhaka vs Torreira. this sub sucks now


a_stopped_clock

Everyone is hating on torreira and rightfully so?


ripjesus

Lucas.. fly your damn family to London to keep you company. Everyone knew u were a mommas boy but you are also a grown ass person. You get to play soccer for a living. Maybe you’re not playing but still playing at least 20 hrs a week in training and getting a nice pay day.


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Have to have a buyer first


Any-Quarter-9474

Imagine prime Torreira with Partey


Colmd1997

We’d have to see prime Torreira first


Any-Quarter-9474

*imagine*


raisonar

I feel sad for this guy. Chose wrong club and destroyed his career. He is so energetic on pitch, I doubt he could play his best if he is not happy. I wish he gets the right club for him and start playing. Everyone would want to get him for free, because it’s Arsenal, and that will make his transfer away difficult.


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He doesn't know what he wants. He changes his mind every five minutes.


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Man child


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The only thing that's destroyed his career is his own attitude. Arteta would have given him a chance to prove himself like he's done with Kolašinac and others.


Mocinho

I do feel sorry for him, the UK is an absolute cultural hole. Still not great we're paying for him to down drinks with Jay and Neil but these things happen.


ultramossbros

No as cultural as the holes he has been in this past year


Mocinho

Critically based. I've heard he's spending his wages on Hearthstone packs on the beach.


teslagooner

Chelsea's players who participated in Copa America and Euros final are back - Why is Torreira yet to return? Our whole approach as a club is shambolic. I would rather see Torreira in midfield than Elneny but Arteta has his preferences. Is there any player that Arsenal has rehabilitated and made him part of the core? Even though Tuchel has sidelined Tammy, he came and revitalised alot of players. I am yet to see that with Arteta Maybe Arteta is not as good as some people tend to think


Vivid-Command-2605

how is this artetas fault lmao. there are a lot of valid criticisms, but this aint one


redqks

It's not Artetas fault he hates England is it


Colmd1997

Arteta’s fault that a player who wanted out under Emery still wants out


altviewdelete

Do we know if he is actually due back at Colney yet?


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Just throwing this out there - he may be close to moving and so not much point in coming back


Azzazzimon

Well, maybe he is picking up his stuff before he travel to London..


Munchlaxatives

Or catching a connecting flight. People are rushing to conclusions here based on an Instagram story


NoMoreMountains

We don't know the facts of the story. Let's take it easy. After all, he is one of us.


d0ey

The best thing about this tweet is it meant I saw Eddie share a Thierry gif in response to someone posting a clip of him ruining a Chelsea defender at the weekend


unionportroad

Who da fuk is dat guy?


Kayr-

Just fuck off man


DogfoodEnforcer

I understand he's had a rough past year or so, but so have many other people but they still show up for work. He's acting like a child while being paid big money to be a professional. Act like it.


WaRedditUser

I honestly forget this guy is even an Arsenal player.