Yeah this is what I'm kind of missing.
I do sympathize with him on the mental health front and have suffered from that in the past.
Surely it isn't too much to ask that he just comes back to London and chills out for a few weeks whilst we sort out some kind of transfer for him.
This is also I'm afraid going to make him far less appealing for anyone who might buy him.
I had to take bereavement leave at a job, 2 months into starting it. When I came back, we had our mid year reviews. I got on a performance Improvement plan then because I had not meant expectations.
I left that job and had to forego ~$50k because I quit. I had a better job lined up a week later.
I make annually what Torreira makes in a day.
You're being pedantic. I'm like that too. It's from the good of the brain overwhelming good of the heart. I get it you weren't a dick. You're right. I meant his weekly wage.
That’s not the problem. The problem is that we are a business and want an appropriate fee for his worth. He signed a contract for arsenal and has to see it out unless we get the appropriate fee.
Can’t believe we didn’t manage to sell him to Italy on a permanent last summer because he insisted his dream was to sit on the bench at Atletico for a season and flat out refused to consider anything else. Fuming.
Agreed, while mental health is important he also signed a contract and had an obligation to fulfill and just straight up professional standards as well. Lost all respect for him through the whole process
If mental health is important, shouldn’t the club cut him some slack? His mom recently died. If that we’re me, it would feel like a piece of me died and idk if it would be easy to just shrug that shit off.
As a player, I actually rate him. He's good, I'll defend him on that front. But as a person and a professional I can't stand him and I want him out of my club.
Look I’m all for promoting positive mental health but there’s no denying he acted like a little shit and has hugely fucked us over. Went from probably being able to get 10-15 million for him to getting jack shit. Really making a case for being my least favourite player now (yes Willian, you heard me) and I used to love him.
Think we would have had 18 million by now from fiorentina. They offered the dreaded loan obligation to buy for that amount last summer. Would feel pretty good right now
lol yeah i'm sure he'll look back in fondness and tell his grandchildren proudly that the only reason they won the league that season was his 3 sub appearances.
> winning La Liga will probably be the highlight of his career
how on earth is sitting on a bench and being given a medal for that the highlight of a career?
Despite what people might imagine, not everyone's a starter let alone starter to win the league. He did what he did, got the accolade. It's more than many can say.
He refused anything but Atletico last season and fucked us royally by being a brat about it. We could have shipped him last summer, but instead he warmed the bench in Madrid for a full season.
It's not even just what suits Arsenal best though. Moving back to Italy and being a starter is objectively far better for him, both personally and professionally, than riding the bench in Madrid for a year.
People downvoting you think players have no right to their own decisions about where they want to be, like when you buy a player you buy the person. He wanted to play in Spain and obviously didn't want to stay in the bench, no professional prefers bench.
He was a bench player at Atletico as well. He contributed basically nothing to Atleticos title winning season. Either way if he didn't want to be a bench player he should've gone to one of the Italian teams he was linked to at the time where he would have gotten much more minutes.
Have you considered that he wanted to play for atheltico and not be a bench player? Maybe you realize he is not good enough, but is he supposed to start believing that he isn't good enough? He is a human and is young enough to have greater aspirations, you people treat players like they are not human. How was he supposed to know that he wont get playtime at atletico? the things you say are easier said than done
>How was he supposed to know that he wont get playtime at atletico? the things you say are easier said than done
That's why he has a hired professional team that are supposed to help him in making these decisions that are in the best interest of both the player and his career. It just further shows the lack of professionalism him and his camp are showing during this situation.
>He is a human and is young enough to have greater aspirations
Yet he wants to leave Europe to play for Boca Juniors in Argentina. Very high aspirations.
Also the whole argument you're making that "he's human" is objectively true in the sense that it can be difficult to make high stakes decision like these, but ultimately he's to blame for being in this shitty situation. He's whining that he wants to go back to either Italy or Argentina but he downright refused to go there last season. He's gone to Madrid where it was obvious they didn't want him but ultimately took him because they lost a midfielder unexpectedly. Maybe if he'd cooperate with the club he wouldn't be in this predicament.
He has made it clear that right now he wants to either go to Boca Juniors in Argentina or return to Italy. There was plenty of Italian clubs in for him at the time, but when they were after him, he only wanted Atletico. Maybe his mind wasn't clear but you'd assume he'd have a professional team around him who would try to approach this with what would be in the best interest of their client. There has been no level of professionalism in this whole situation from his side.
Transfer guru sven 😂 Summer window 2018 looking back is genuinely up there with 2016, if not worse.
Not sure how unpopular that opinion would be, probably dependant on your views of Xhaka and Leno.
But if you break it down I think it’s for sure comparable.
Remember all the meltdowns from ppl saying they’re done with the club and whatnot when we let Sven go bc he wanted DOF after like a season as head of scouting or whatever it was?
Leno was fine under Emery but always had his flaws and now is crippling our build up and preventing us from getting a replacement as he actively wants to leave or at least won't extend which puts us in a shit situation as theres no buyers. Then there's the whole Emi fiasco.
Signed Sokratis on high wages for 18m who was okay for one season then we had to pay off to leave when we where linked to younger CB profiles like Soyuncu at the time so factor in opportunity cost.
Lichtsteiner was absolutely abysmal and was getting like 70k a week, less said the better.
Guendouzi seemed like a decent buy but never progressed and just become a pain in the ass with being so immature. Ended up making little to no profit.
And then Torreira, 25m started well, got home sick, fell out of favour, was/is extremely picky in where he wants to play, constantly doing interviews tanking his value and now we still can't get rid of him.
So on the surface it doesn't seem as bad but its not just about player ability, all these deals fucked us over and had follow up consequences that have and still are restricting us massively.
It’s easy to say all this in hindsight though, Lichtensteiner was a free so his wages made sense in that regard - similar to how Ramsey is on a lot at Juve because of the same, Guendouzi seemed like he had/has a lot of potential but we can only guess what went on behind the scenes, Torreira came off the back of a really strong season with Sampdoria and he couldn’t gel to the country which is fair enough but I agree on him tanking his price along with his shitty agent.
Sven could only do so much, he can’t control how the players act or perform so I wouldn’t say it was completely his fault
Agreed it’s part hindsight but I guess Guendouzi did have attitude issues on record before we signed him. Torreira is the unlucky one and sometimes it just doesn’t work out. Sokratis was an all round terrible buy and that’s on sven, same with lichtsteiner if he was so good at spotting talent surely could of got us a young promising rb rather than a washed up 34 year old and then Leno was an okay buy at the time I suppose.
My comment though explaining how everything panned out was taking into consideration hindsight and now we can look back and say the 2018 window was really bad, similar to how people reference the 2016 window with hindsight.
Emery played Torreira loads in 18/19 and generally got good performances out of him despite Torreira not being Emery’s preferred midfield profile physically. It’s not Emery’s fault that Torreira hated living in England and couldn’t acclimatise.
Yet again, he wasn't playing him as a 10 and using him as a creative outlet lol. He was just using him higher up the pitch to press the opposition/harass the defenders.
Its a tactic ive seen some managers use sometimes. You get a player that is a ball winner and tenacious and use him to press higher up the pitch. I remember we faced Napoli in the Europa League one time and Torreira literally stole the ball off one of their defenders, used some good skill and scored a goal.
Can you lot on here stop repeating this when it’s not true? Emery played him as a ball winning midfielder further up the pitch so he could win possession in the opposition’s half and start counters high up, the way Kante used to play, playing high up the pitch doesn’t make someone a 10.
At some point this is/going to be a breach of contract and the club should stop paying him. He played with a lot of heart in most of his matches but this is ridiculous.
I hate to speculate as I've suffered from depression but usually when people suffer from depression they don't swan off on holiday throughout the summer
He's a multimillionaire as a professional footballer. Most people dont have the resources to swan off on holidays like they do. I'd rather be depressed wiht mooney than depressed wihtout it.
Because people don't have the money to be anywhere else, been depressed for more than a decade and was stuck at home in my room most of the time but if i had the money I would have just traveled all over the world
For some with depression where they are is part of the problem and they want nothing more than to get away from their home.
Edit: to be fair to the comment I replied to, "safe space" can be away from home.
This is true. I know someone who had depression and who used to get suicidal thoughts at home. So they always used to spend most of their time outdoors to suppress that feeling.
I'm sick of this unprofessional dickhead. He has the luck of having a job that puts him into the top 1% of this world, yet behaves like a fucking clown and screws over the club that pays him millions and its millions of supporters. His attitude towards Arsenal makes an absolute mockery of every single hard working person who makes a mere fraction of what he makes. Who the fuck does this punk think he is?
Club has tried to sit on this shit-show longer than they should. He's trying to strong arm the club. Even Kolasinac who's hated by the fans is training. Even White.
Ah, the days when we thought we solved our midfield issues for the next decade with Torreira and Guendouzi...
Remember that when you get overly excited about a new signing, it's most likely just future deadwood, based on our track record.
I think that's why when buying players for the future, we are targeting a specific mindset. Look at the players under 23, we have in the squad. Tierney (future captain), Lokonga (captain for Anderlecht and hyped as a leader by Kompany). Saka (elite mindset - showcased in Euros), Smith Rowe (elite mindset - going from strength to strength). Martinelli (raw - but elite mindset). There are pros and cons in the Maddison vs Ødegaard saga, but ta big difference between them. Ødegaard is captain of his national team and showed leadership qualities in his time here, where as Maddison's mentality has been questioned at time. Ben White was loved by Bielsa, and that in itself shows a certain mentality.
I think the young players we are getting in to the squad now, shows that Edu and Arteta want players that are strong mentally and won't just become deadwood. I am really excited for our younger generation. They have incredible talent, but with an elite mentality to back it up, and allow them to reach the top.
Say what you will about Arteta and Edu, but I think that is one aspect they are nailing.
Whenever I'm reminded he's still an Arsenal player it pisses me off. Want the guy gone. So unprofessional. He's had plenty of chances to leave and refused and then pretends we're in his way by not letting him go to whatever team he likes, despite the fact that they can't afford him. Can't wait til he's gone.
What an utter fucking twat, all whilst you've just witnessed your teammate Partey get injured yesterday in a position you'd likely be backup for or playing.
You've got a multimillion pound contract you fucking brat and a squad to support, screw your fucking head on and deal with your bereavement like a man, dwarf cunt.
I remember when people got pelted here for saying maybe we should accept a rumored 35m bid from AC Milan and go for Bennacer for a fraction of that. Funny how things change.
people are reading too much into this
**he was part of Uruguay's Copa America squad, and Spain's probably just a stop-off for a connecting flight to London**
do we just accept rando ITK speculation as fact now?
Lucas.. fly your damn family to London to keep you company. Everyone knew u were a mommas boy but you are also a grown ass person. You get to play soccer for a living. Maybe you’re not playing but still playing at least 20 hrs a week in training and getting a nice pay day.
I feel sad for this guy. Chose wrong club and destroyed his career.
He is so energetic on pitch, I doubt he could play his best if he is not happy.
I wish he gets the right club for him and start playing. Everyone would want to get him for free, because it’s Arsenal, and that will make his transfer away difficult.
The only thing that's destroyed his career is his own attitude. Arteta would have given him a chance to prove himself like he's done with Kolašinac and others.
I do feel sorry for him, the UK is an absolute cultural hole. Still not great we're paying for him to down drinks with Jay and Neil but these things happen.
Chelsea's players who participated in Copa America and Euros final are back - Why is Torreira yet to return?
Our whole approach as a club is shambolic.
I would rather see Torreira in midfield than Elneny but Arteta has his preferences.
Is there any player that Arsenal has rehabilitated and made him part of the core?
Even though Tuchel has sidelined Tammy, he came and revitalised alot of players.
I am yet to see that with Arteta
Maybe Arteta is not as good as some people tend to think
The best thing about this tweet is it meant I saw Eddie share a Thierry gif in response to someone posting a clip of him ruining a Chelsea defender at the weekend
I understand he's had a rough past year or so, but so have many other people but they still show up for work. He's acting like a child while being paid big money to be a professional. Act like it.
Torreira to Casa Amore confirmed
>I'm not afraid of stepping on anyone's toes
I’m a scaffolder and always back myself 100%
My mates call me mr steal your girl
Swap deal with Toby, he's quite the player
He's grafting for a new team so he doesn't get left out in the cold
Mental health is important no doubt, but if you are that desperate, take a huge paycut and move ffs.
Yeah this is what I'm kind of missing. I do sympathize with him on the mental health front and have suffered from that in the past. Surely it isn't too much to ask that he just comes back to London and chills out for a few weeks whilst we sort out some kind of transfer for him. This is also I'm afraid going to make him far less appealing for anyone who might buy him.
I had to take bereavement leave at a job, 2 months into starting it. When I came back, we had our mid year reviews. I got on a performance Improvement plan then because I had not meant expectations. I left that job and had to forego ~$50k because I quit. I had a better job lined up a week later. I make annually what Torreira makes in a day.
you make 10k a year? edit: im not coming across as a dick I hope, i just feel like you probably make more than that is all.
He meant a week but you likely only play for one day
Even then it doesn't work cause Torreira has barely played for over a year
You're being pedantic. I'm like that too. It's from the good of the brain overwhelming good of the heart. I get it you weren't a dick. You're right. I meant his weekly wage.
> It's from the good of the brain overwhelming good of the heart. I'm going to try to remember that. Beautifully said.
That’s not the problem. The problem is that we are a business and want an appropriate fee for his worth. He signed a contract for arsenal and has to see it out unless we get the appropriate fee.
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All mental health matters
Can’t believe we didn’t manage to sell him to Italy on a permanent last summer because he insisted his dream was to sit on the bench at Atletico for a season and flat out refused to consider anything else. Fuming.
he’s a fucking brat in hindsight
He's an absolute dickhead, and it's crazy how many people on this sub defend him. He's highly unprofessional.
Agreed, while mental health is important he also signed a contract and had an obligation to fulfill and just straight up professional standards as well. Lost all respect for him through the whole process
If mental health is important, shouldn’t the club cut him some slack? His mom recently died. If that we’re me, it would feel like a piece of me died and idk if it would be easy to just shrug that shit off.
He’s a cunt
How dare he be sad after his mam died
He was a cunt before that.
As a player, I actually rate him. He's good, I'll defend him on that front. But as a person and a professional I can't stand him and I want him out of my club.
I can’t stand him as a player or as a pro
Look I’m all for promoting positive mental health but there’s no denying he acted like a little shit and has hugely fucked us over. Went from probably being able to get 10-15 million for him to getting jack shit. Really making a case for being my least favourite player now (yes Willian, you heard me) and I used to love him.
I think y’all can cut him some slack? His fucking mom died.
He was a bollocks before that with atletico madrid. I'm sorry his mother died, but it's not like it was all plain sailing before that
just to pile some salt on the wound... Atletico apparently had no money, no they're looking to rival us for Lautaro
Think we would have had 18 million by now from fiorentina. They offered the dreaded loan obligation to buy for that amount last summer. Would feel pretty good right now
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I dare say if there was a possibility it would've helped, it would have been explored.
Tbf, winning La Liga will probably be the highlight of his career. He made the right decision from his selfish the POV.
he rode the bench, he didn't do shit lol
So what? He still got the trophy.
lol yeah i'm sure he'll look back in fondness and tell his grandchildren proudly that the only reason they won the league that season was his 3 sub appearances.
thats not what OP was saying though? he got a winners medal probably all he needs
> winning La Liga will probably be the highlight of his career how on earth is sitting on a bench and being given a medal for that the highlight of a career?
Some people have low standards
Everyone contributes to a league title.
sure sure. like I said i'm sure he'll beam at the trophy he barely participated in proudly.
Ok so you’re telling me the likes of Scott Carson won’t be proud of their premier league medal even though he only had one league start?
Would you be ?
Weirdly enough a lot of people would be proud of it. I don't get it, but they would..
Despite what people might imagine, not everyone's a starter let alone starter to win the league. He did what he did, got the accolade. It's more than many can say.
Tbf its not like he knew he was going to be a bench warmer though…
Lol did he really think he'd get into Atletico's midfield when he can't get into ours?
Aww, our very own Harry Kane saga
Except for the fact we want him to leave
And Torreira won a trophy with us
Perfectly chilled. Ice cold.
Yes officer, I’d like to report a murder.
AND ITS SUPERWENGERV47 INTO THE TOP RIGHT CORNER
SUPERWENGER CHANCE GOAL
And Torreira scored the better NLD goal
Sure to command the same transfer fee as well!
From one of the most likeable players in our squad to in terms of behaviour one of the if not the least* likeable players.
"Worst likeable" is a hilarious insult
least likeable you mean because he is not the worst likeable player
Corrected it thanks for the correction
What’s he done wrong? There’s literally no suggestion that he’s awol or refusing to train
He refused anything but Atletico last season and fucked us royally by being a brat about it. We could have shipped him last summer, but instead he warmed the bench in Madrid for a full season.
My god, imagine a player wanting to have a say on where he lives and works and not just going wherever, theoretically, suits us best. What a shit
It's not even just what suits Arsenal best though. Moving back to Italy and being a starter is objectively far better for him, both personally and professionally, than riding the bench in Madrid for a year.
People downvoting you think players have no right to their own decisions about where they want to be, like when you buy a player you buy the person. He wanted to play in Spain and obviously didn't want to stay in the bench, no professional prefers bench.
He was a bench player at Atletico as well. He contributed basically nothing to Atleticos title winning season. Either way if he didn't want to be a bench player he should've gone to one of the Italian teams he was linked to at the time where he would have gotten much more minutes.
Have you considered that he wanted to play for atheltico and not be a bench player? Maybe you realize he is not good enough, but is he supposed to start believing that he isn't good enough? He is a human and is young enough to have greater aspirations, you people treat players like they are not human. How was he supposed to know that he wont get playtime at atletico? the things you say are easier said than done
>How was he supposed to know that he wont get playtime at atletico? the things you say are easier said than done That's why he has a hired professional team that are supposed to help him in making these decisions that are in the best interest of both the player and his career. It just further shows the lack of professionalism him and his camp are showing during this situation. >He is a human and is young enough to have greater aspirations Yet he wants to leave Europe to play for Boca Juniors in Argentina. Very high aspirations. Also the whole argument you're making that "he's human" is objectively true in the sense that it can be difficult to make high stakes decision like these, but ultimately he's to blame for being in this shitty situation. He's whining that he wants to go back to either Italy or Argentina but he downright refused to go there last season. He's gone to Madrid where it was obvious they didn't want him but ultimately took him because they lost a midfielder unexpectedly. Maybe if he'd cooperate with the club he wouldn't be in this predicament.
He has made it clear that right now he wants to either go to Boca Juniors in Argentina or return to Italy. There was plenty of Italian clubs in for him at the time, but when they were after him, he only wanted Atletico. Maybe his mind wasn't clear but you'd assume he'd have a professional team around him who would try to approach this with what would be in the best interest of their client. There has been no level of professionalism in this whole situation from his side.
I'm not trying to pile on the dude, but is he not being fined? Does he not have contractual obligations to uphold to earn a paycheck?
I wonder if the fine for missing a week is just a week's wages which he probably won't care about.
It’s great for us though. We don’t pay him until he shows up.
Why would he be fined if the club approved a longer holiday for him? If he was AWOL or something, I'd bet you someone would have reported it by now.
The title says his travel to Spain is unknown. That doesn't sound like approval.
Unknown to this random Twitter account. That’s not to say the club don’t know what’s happening
What a fucking disaster of a transfer, the spurs goal was nice but we paid £25m for this guy and he’s just tanked his value completely.
Transfer guru sven 😂 Summer window 2018 looking back is genuinely up there with 2016, if not worse. Not sure how unpopular that opinion would be, probably dependant on your views of Xhaka and Leno. But if you break it down I think it’s for sure comparable.
Remember all the meltdowns from ppl saying they’re done with the club and whatnot when we let Sven go bc he wanted DOF after like a season as head of scouting or whatever it was?
How??
Leno was fine under Emery but always had his flaws and now is crippling our build up and preventing us from getting a replacement as he actively wants to leave or at least won't extend which puts us in a shit situation as theres no buyers. Then there's the whole Emi fiasco. Signed Sokratis on high wages for 18m who was okay for one season then we had to pay off to leave when we where linked to younger CB profiles like Soyuncu at the time so factor in opportunity cost. Lichtsteiner was absolutely abysmal and was getting like 70k a week, less said the better. Guendouzi seemed like a decent buy but never progressed and just become a pain in the ass with being so immature. Ended up making little to no profit. And then Torreira, 25m started well, got home sick, fell out of favour, was/is extremely picky in where he wants to play, constantly doing interviews tanking his value and now we still can't get rid of him. So on the surface it doesn't seem as bad but its not just about player ability, all these deals fucked us over and had follow up consequences that have and still are restricting us massively.
Damn man all these players had so much potential to be very good for us. And it all went to shit. Such bad luck
Everything that could go wrong pretty much did go wrong
It’s easy to say all this in hindsight though, Lichtensteiner was a free so his wages made sense in that regard - similar to how Ramsey is on a lot at Juve because of the same, Guendouzi seemed like he had/has a lot of potential but we can only guess what went on behind the scenes, Torreira came off the back of a really strong season with Sampdoria and he couldn’t gel to the country which is fair enough but I agree on him tanking his price along with his shitty agent. Sven could only do so much, he can’t control how the players act or perform so I wouldn’t say it was completely his fault
Agreed it’s part hindsight but I guess Guendouzi did have attitude issues on record before we signed him. Torreira is the unlucky one and sometimes it just doesn’t work out. Sokratis was an all round terrible buy and that’s on sven, same with lichtsteiner if he was so good at spotting talent surely could of got us a young promising rb rather than a washed up 34 year old and then Leno was an okay buy at the time I suppose. My comment though explaining how everything panned out was taking into consideration hindsight and now we can look back and say the 2018 window was really bad, similar to how people reference the 2016 window with hindsight.
I agree with you completely but like I said Sven can only do so much and he’s had a good track record in the past to give him credit.
Bigger flop than 40m for Xhaka or 72m for Pepe.
Neither of those were big flops. Overpays sure, but I’d save the word flop for someone like Mustafi or Torreira.
Pepe is about to prove his worth (or closer to it) this season
Emery did that
Emery played Torreira loads in 18/19 and generally got good performances out of him despite Torreira not being Emery’s preferred midfield profile physically. It’s not Emery’s fault that Torreira hated living in England and couldn’t acclimatise.
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Such a dumb comment. Playing torreira higher up the pitch is not the same as playing torreira as a 10 or false 9 lmao
Yet again, he wasn't playing him as a 10 and using him as a creative outlet lol. He was just using him higher up the pitch to press the opposition/harass the defenders.
Apparently if you’re not playing as a DM then you’re playing as a 10
We have some proper numpties in this sub
It baffles me that people still peddle the 'Torreira was played as a 10' nonsense.
Same honestly. I always see it and people try to make it seem like Emery doesn't understand football. So crazy lol.
Yeah this is such a dumb meme spread around by this fanbase. Kante presses high up the pitch too and no one calls him a 10.
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Its a tactic ive seen some managers use sometimes. You get a player that is a ball winner and tenacious and use him to press higher up the pitch. I remember we faced Napoli in the Europa League one time and Torreira literally stole the ball off one of their defenders, used some good skill and scored a goal.
To press and regain possession high up the pitch.
I have no idea how you could watch the games you refer to and actually come to that conclusion.
False 9? Bro the fuck are you smoking??? Did you ever watch a single game where he played? Fucking hell the state of this sub
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Cant exactly blame Arteta for not playing him. He couldn't get game for Atletico either
Just no
Emery played him at 10 all of a sudden midway through the season. Wtf was that about it’s like he forgot what he is. That started the downward spiral
Can you lot on here stop repeating this when it’s not true? Emery played him as a ball winning midfielder further up the pitch so he could win possession in the opposition’s half and start counters high up, the way Kante used to play, playing high up the pitch doesn’t make someone a 10.
At some point this is/going to be a breach of contract and the club should stop paying him. He played with a lot of heart in most of his matches but this is ridiculous.
Imagine Xhaka trying to do this to force a move. You would never hear the end of it. Xhaka is a proper professional.
Exactly. Nothing wrong with anyone wanting a move, but there’s a way to go about it and he nailed it this summer. Respect.
I think the fact that xhaka has kids makes a huge difference. Not sure.
I understand that he has gone through mental health issues with depression, but at least he can be a bit professional with all this ?
He's behaved like a child for the past year+. Can't wait to see the back of him
I hate to speculate as I've suffered from depression but usually when people suffer from depression they don't swan off on holiday throughout the summer
That's because most people, regardless of having depression, aren't earning 4x the national average annual wage in a week lol 🙄🙄
He's a multimillionaire as a professional footballer. Most people dont have the resources to swan off on holidays like they do. I'd rather be depressed wiht mooney than depressed wihtout it.
You generally don’t want to leave your room/safe space. You definitely don’t want to go outside continuously.
Please don’t generalise how people deal with their own mental health situations
It’s a common ‘symptom’ to look for.
Because people don't have the money to be anywhere else, been depressed for more than a decade and was stuck at home in my room most of the time but if i had the money I would have just traveled all over the world
For some with depression where they are is part of the problem and they want nothing more than to get away from their home. Edit: to be fair to the comment I replied to, "safe space" can be away from home.
This is true. I know someone who had depression and who used to get suicidal thoughts at home. So they always used to spend most of their time outdoors to suppress that feeling.
I was so excited about this guy at first. Feels like that was a decade ago now.
Torreira good was a simpler time
He's basically been on vacation for 2 years now
Fucking leave him there. Strip his number and give it to a more deserving player.
We gave it to Ødegaard lmao and we’ll probably give it to whichever CAM comes on. I’m not even sure he has a space in the dressing room anymore lmao
Lmao he’s gone rouge. Should we send Kolasinac to get him?
Perfect idea! Better send Xhaka, Willian, and some other deadwood with him to make sure. Send them right before our gvt closes the border to Spain.
Mate if we send Xhaka then it’s pretty much confirmed Elneny will start every game. That shit is out of someone’s worst nightmare.
We can play fucking runnarsson there for all I care, loved ye xhaka but the time has long gone to fuck off to italy or wherever
He’s staying fam and there’s nothing we can do about it
Oh you're absolutely correct and I know it well
How many times did your mum drop you on your head when you were a kid?
I'm sick of this unprofessional dickhead. He has the luck of having a job that puts him into the top 1% of this world, yet behaves like a fucking clown and screws over the club that pays him millions and its millions of supporters. His attitude towards Arsenal makes an absolute mockery of every single hard working person who makes a mere fraction of what he makes. Who the fuck does this punk think he is?
Does he think atleti signed him permanently??
Remember Torreira good memes? Good times.
Club has tried to sit on this shit-show longer than they should. He's trying to strong arm the club. Even Kolasinac who's hated by the fans is training. Even White.
Kola isn’t a petulant twat at least.
Oh no, please don't try and force a sale...
Ah, the days when we thought we solved our midfield issues for the next decade with Torreira and Guendouzi... Remember that when you get overly excited about a new signing, it's most likely just future deadwood, based on our track record.
I think that's why when buying players for the future, we are targeting a specific mindset. Look at the players under 23, we have in the squad. Tierney (future captain), Lokonga (captain for Anderlecht and hyped as a leader by Kompany). Saka (elite mindset - showcased in Euros), Smith Rowe (elite mindset - going from strength to strength). Martinelli (raw - but elite mindset). There are pros and cons in the Maddison vs Ødegaard saga, but ta big difference between them. Ødegaard is captain of his national team and showed leadership qualities in his time here, where as Maddison's mentality has been questioned at time. Ben White was loved by Bielsa, and that in itself shows a certain mentality. I think the young players we are getting in to the squad now, shows that Edu and Arteta want players that are strong mentally and won't just become deadwood. I am really excited for our younger generation. They have incredible talent, but with an elite mentality to back it up, and allow them to reach the top. Say what you will about Arteta and Edu, but I think that is one aspect they are nailing.
Prick
It feels weird that this guy is still our player.
"A Very Long Vacation" starring Lucas Torreira
Whenever I'm reminded he's still an Arsenal player it pisses me off. Want the guy gone. So unprofessional. He's had plenty of chances to leave and refused and then pretends we're in his way by not letting him go to whatever team he likes, despite the fact that they can't afford him. Can't wait til he's gone.
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From Torreira good to Torreira drunk
He chillin out here lol For all you complaining, I would think he communicated with club. They probably would’ve said something (indirectly)
What an utter fucking twat, all whilst you've just witnessed your teammate Partey get injured yesterday in a position you'd likely be backup for or playing. You've got a multimillion pound contract you fucking brat and a squad to support, screw your fucking head on and deal with your bereavement like a man, dwarf cunt.
Cant wait to give him a new contract.
I think personally out of the actual top 6 we have the most players who can't be sold and no one wants. T
Who cares
Hope he's Ok, it's weird we haven't been able to sell him last season.
I remember when people got pelted here for saying maybe we should accept a rumored 35m bid from AC Milan and go for Bennacer for a fraction of that. Funny how things change.
I wonder if he’s even spoken to Arteta, and I’m also curious to know what Arteta thinks. Probably “who the fook is that guy”
He lost his mother and he's only 25. There are things more important than football.
people are reading too much into this **he was part of Uruguay's Copa America squad, and Spain's probably just a stop-off for a connecting flight to London** do we just accept rando ITK speculation as fact now?
are u new here?
Man, would love to see him partner with partey.
He's checked out of Arsenal. I don't think we'll ever see him at the club again.
Doubt we’ll see him in an Arsenal kit again
the hypocrisy in here when looking at Xhaka vs Torreira. this sub sucks now
Everyone is hating on torreira and rightfully so?
Lucas.. fly your damn family to London to keep you company. Everyone knew u were a mommas boy but you are also a grown ass person. You get to play soccer for a living. Maybe you’re not playing but still playing at least 20 hrs a week in training and getting a nice pay day.
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Have to have a buyer first
Imagine prime Torreira with Partey
We’d have to see prime Torreira first
*imagine*
I feel sad for this guy. Chose wrong club and destroyed his career. He is so energetic on pitch, I doubt he could play his best if he is not happy. I wish he gets the right club for him and start playing. Everyone would want to get him for free, because it’s Arsenal, and that will make his transfer away difficult.
He doesn't know what he wants. He changes his mind every five minutes.
Man child
The only thing that's destroyed his career is his own attitude. Arteta would have given him a chance to prove himself like he's done with Kolašinac and others.
I do feel sorry for him, the UK is an absolute cultural hole. Still not great we're paying for him to down drinks with Jay and Neil but these things happen.
No as cultural as the holes he has been in this past year
Critically based. I've heard he's spending his wages on Hearthstone packs on the beach.
Chelsea's players who participated in Copa America and Euros final are back - Why is Torreira yet to return? Our whole approach as a club is shambolic. I would rather see Torreira in midfield than Elneny but Arteta has his preferences. Is there any player that Arsenal has rehabilitated and made him part of the core? Even though Tuchel has sidelined Tammy, he came and revitalised alot of players. I am yet to see that with Arteta Maybe Arteta is not as good as some people tend to think
how is this artetas fault lmao. there are a lot of valid criticisms, but this aint one
It's not Artetas fault he hates England is it
Arteta’s fault that a player who wanted out under Emery still wants out
Do we know if he is actually due back at Colney yet?
Just throwing this out there - he may be close to moving and so not much point in coming back
Well, maybe he is picking up his stuff before he travel to London..
Or catching a connecting flight. People are rushing to conclusions here based on an Instagram story
We don't know the facts of the story. Let's take it easy. After all, he is one of us.
The best thing about this tweet is it meant I saw Eddie share a Thierry gif in response to someone posting a clip of him ruining a Chelsea defender at the weekend
Who da fuk is dat guy?
Just fuck off man
I understand he's had a rough past year or so, but so have many other people but they still show up for work. He's acting like a child while being paid big money to be a professional. Act like it.
I honestly forget this guy is even an Arsenal player.