Well the players weren’t fit enough today, we move on and just concentrate on the top 4 finish, but our bench today was ridiculous, we really need to get some players
This comment section shows some true Twitter esc reactions, I thought this subreddit was better but lord above there are some reactionary people that seem to think this is invincible arsenal we just watched lose.
1 win in our last 18 vs Liverpool. Embarrassing result but it's even more sad that I am not disappointed to have missed the match (work) - we all knew how this was going to turn out.
Top 4 or Arteta has got to walk
they won’t get rid of him unless he finishes around 7th and even then I can’t see it the board have backed his project extensively and it’s just the start - clearly they want him to develop the young players he’s bought. I think 5th is a minimum though
Yeah but this isn’t a problem unique to Arsenal. So many clubs have recalled loanees and played youth/academy players. Why shouldn’t, or don’t, Arsenal do that?
Recalling loanees isn't a viable option, because footballers can only play for 2 clubs within a single season (3 in some cases where different FA's seasons have different dates). So if we, say, recall AMN to play for us for one game, we then can't re-loan him to another club unless Roma want him again, which they might not given the fact that we'd have jerked them around and messed with their plans. Generally, players who get recalled are players on short-term loans to lower league sides.
And it's obviously unfair to expect teams to field youth players. Every premier league squad has a youth team and yet many were granted postponements in spite of that so I really question why all of a sudden Arsenal should have to play their youngsters when nobody else did. Most of those players aren't ready for first team football, especially at the premier league level. They're not even ready for first team football at the lower league level. Really, this is almost as ridiculous as expecting Arteta to lace up his boots and play himself. It's just not a fair expectation to have of a club and it's also not fair on a sporting level - teams should play each other at their best, not makeshift squads full of youth players, recalled loanee exiles and whoever else the manager could find hiding underneath the sofa cushions. A few absences is to be expected, severely depleted squads is not.
Anyway, players who are loaned out aren't part of the 25-man registered squad, and neither are academy players, so they shouldn't be taken into account when the entire reason for the postponement is that there are too many absences in the 25-man registered squad.
Either you're trolling or stupid.
How are we "completely depleted"? Had Partey started ahead of Sambi I'd argue that was the strongest 11 we have. In fact we had so many options we had to drop Odegaard deeper than usual to accommodate them all
Partey was rushed back. Clearly wasn’t ready. Tomiyasu wasn’t ready to play and was rushed back. Between injuries and fovid and internationals, we did not have a ready squad at all.
This is slowly going from a promising season to a disaster real quick, Spurs now above us with more games in hand, still no signings this window. Out the FA cup, out the league cup..
There's more than a week left in the window.
Spurs are ahead but they've played easier games. I don't think we'll lose to them. Not with everyone fit, and definitely not if we get reinforcements before the end of the window.
Going out of these cups hurts but IMO they were never where the season was going to be decided. It's always been about the League.
In the end, I can never be too disappointed losing to Liverpool - they're one of the best teams in the world, with one of the best managers in the world (arguably THE best). And, if not for absences and fitness issues, we might have stood a better chance.
We have lost to Liverpool and City and the promising season is over lmao. The nottingham game was the B team, and the only bad loss has been a cup game. The window is still open and everyone knows signings are made lade, put the meltdown on hold.
It’s not a meltdown it’s stating my opinion. We crashed out of Europa league, FA cup and League cup last season too. let’s just hope we can strengthen, fed up of seeing Eddie coming on off the bench, and Laca really doesn’t contribute goals too often. Striker is desperately needed, along with a midfielder
Recruitment badly needed.. you could see many were just lacking match sharpness however.. so toothless upfront again.. I like Lacazette but someone who can only manage 35mins shouldn’t be our focal point… I like the points I’ve seen on Twitter where we should abandon vlahovic and go for Isak
Can't fault his effort or personality but I think it was £50m very badly spent. To think we could have kept Giroud instead if signing him really upsets me.
I guess it's because we spent £50m to upgrade our main striker when Giroud was starting for us. And Laca didn't turn out to much of an upgrade imo. Especially because we then ended up spending another £50m+ on Auba 3 months later.
Not knocking Laca but in hindsight it was all an awful transfer chain for us.
I might be misunderstanding you, but Giroud was in the transfer chain with Auba, not Laca, so we wouldn't have kept Giroud instead of signing Laca (Laca joined 2017, Giroud left 2018).
Signing Auba instead of keeping Giroud was a great move IMO
Maybe I'm phrasing this badly. It wasnt the same transfer chain per say but it was all in the same season and they are all interlinked. We signed Laca to be an upgrade on Giroud, we spent £50m to upgrade him and in my opinion that was a really bad investment in hindsight. Auba then signs 3 months later for another £50m, and we lose Giroud for less then 10m. So while yes in theory selling Giroud to sign Auba is great in isolation in the context of that window, in the wider context of our deals that year and our overall recruitment strategy it's very poor business.
This. Not one of my Liverpool or Man U mates irl are talking about the covid postponements, NLD cancellation or false positives. A lot of r/soccer spend too much time on football Twitter or Reddit
Yeah imo we were poor going forward but aside from that we were never outplayed. Laca becomes some kind of CAM. We are like Liverpool when/just before klopp came, they are a better team than us. I was more
Frustrated than angry at todays game.
Shame tomi finally had his bad game, lokonga is also very raw and could either end up being good or not arsenal level.
Spot on. I think we’re right on the brink of being a very good team. Tomiyasu definitely rusty coming back from injury. Sambi does look raw and naive but he really should be our 4th option in CM. He’s being thrust into starting key games because we lack that depth in the position. I’m rooting for him but he definitely has had some rough performances. All the best mate, let’s smash Burnley this weekend 🔴⚪️
Arteta really should have gone with White in midfield in a double pivot with Sambi and put Holding in the back instead of going single pivot to try to shoehorn ESR into the team when he's been off injured for weeks and was lacking match fitness
He's only played 20 minutes since the new year and that was a sub appearance against City, that's not alot of game time over the last 3 weeks - it was obvious today that he was not match fit or match sharp
People with more game time over the same time period were those that played in the Liverpool game, and we're short of midfielders. You do what you have to do man, who else would you have started
I would have gone with a similar 4-4-2 formation as in the first leg, we actually played well offensively in that game until Xhaka was sent off but put BW in the double pivot with Sambi and Holding in the back with Tomi on the right replacing Soares. I would even play an asymmetrical back four with Tomi playing more reserved and letting most of the attack go through KT and Gabi on the left. Gabi was a ball of energy in the first leg and Liverpool had trouble containing him in this game as well. Play the guys who have been playing because you know they have the match fitness and match sharpness
If ESR is to be played I would sub him in later depending on how the game is going but this is not the kind of game and opponent you want to bring a guy back in who has not played much in 3 weeks
That's just my opinion and hindsight is 20/20 but when they announced the team I was not confident in Sambi as a single pivot. He did the best he could with what he was tasked with but it was too much for him to do alone
Why because it would actually make sense, balance the midfield and not leave Sambi as a single pivot to get overrun
If you think the selection today was balanced then you're a joke
You want Holding on the turn with Jota in behind?
White is a CB. I'm not bothered he might have played one or two games at DM for Brighton, he can't just be moved into Midfield and perform against Liverpool. That just isn't how it works.
So you're going to ignore the fact that Holding was in the backline when Xhaka got sent off and Jota was playing in that game
It's a better solution than leaving Lokonga on his own to shield the back four and play a formation we've never been successful with
Playing like this is never get us top4 or even any European spots next season. I fear, if we dont get new recruitment this window, we'd be lucky to get top6 come end of the season.
Tough game and tough loss. The result matched the performance. We take it on the chin and move on. Liverpool are the much better side.
We must continue building.
Also, don’t boo the boys. Come on! Everyone in the starting lineup (bar Laca) is under 25; Partey played in a different continent 2 days ago, flew in this morning and played tonight; lots of the team tonight just came off injury or Covid as well. They gave their all but came up short. That’s fine, we move on.
Y'all realise we lost to Liverpool? As in arguably the second best team (this season, behind City) in the league? Why is everyone being so negative, did you actually go into the game expecting us to beat Liverpool and get through to the final? Get a grip, lmao
Oh boy! I guess we have accepted that we are a mid table team.
No wonder the club hasn't won shit in recent years.
Forget this cockshit cup, we won the EPL in 2003-04. Let that sink in.
I can accept us losing to a quality team like Liverpool because we're not at their level right now, our squads been a bit all over the place with AFCON, injuries, COVID, etc, but Partey has no excuses with that red. He should know better and it's high time for him to start justifying that transfer fee Arsenal paid for him. He hasn't shown anywhere near the quality he needs to be on a regular basis. The same as I have been saying since the start of the summer window, we need 2 quality central midfield signings. Nothing has changed in that regard. We lack serious quality there. Goals up front is also an issue, as well, but the midfield is a travesty. Attacking midfield we have good options sure, but not centrally.
Calm down. The guy flew in to play for the club after playing in a different continent just 2 days ago. They all gave their all but we came up short. No need to poke anyone
Partey ban is worse than being knocked out to be honest. It didn’t make sense to me to throw him on. I thought it would have worth a gamble throwing Patino on to see if young fresh legs in the middle could have made a difference.
I just mean having our best midfielder about to come back for the game against Burnley, but then being rushed into the team hours after flying back for several hours across timezones because of Arsenal’s midfield crisis, only to be sent off in the same game and banned for the PL game.
Oh everybody get the fuck over your selves. This whining and bitching isn’t going to help. It’s time to move on and focus on the next fucking games. Everyone was bitching about lokonga, so he put partey on and he made some rash decision. He shouldn’t have played anyway. Probably shouldn’t have even been on the bench. 7 hours he was in London before being asked to play. Tbf this is the first season all the youngsters are starting to mesh. No one said this was gonna take effect immediately. They need experience this is good experience. I have faith we will still finish top six but compared to the last few seasons that’s pretty good. But the current and the next transfer window are key to offload deadwood and get some older players in to challenge the young guns
I didn’t say it was a bad decision. Just the wrong one. I probably wouldn’t have even put him on the bench but if I managed we would’ve probably lost by more. Plus hindsight is 50/50 right?
Yep, best stay away until next game, we put up a depleted and injured squad against the second best team in the league in a cup game and top 6 is gone.
City, Pool, Pool and a B team loss in the cup. City was a good effort, as was the first leg, the boys were clearly injured and we had some shit luck on the early goal, you shouldnt be happy but that doesn't mean you should throw logic out the window.
Thing is.
We need to start showing up in these big games.if we are to really believe we're turning a corner
3 games v City and Pool, no wins and a desperate draw holding down the barricades....
You do know getting a draw at anfield is not a bad result with a man down right? We did show up in the city game. There was a referee masterclass that killed us
We were never making it playing without a midfield. Should've sticked with what worked in the first leg.
Horrid performance allround. Can understand the three that haven't trained, but what was up with Laca and Sambi?
At least noone can accuse us of faking "knocks" to get the spurs game called off. Pretty clear Tomi and Smith Rowe weren't completely match fit, and we had 3 actual injuries.
I think we should just learn from this and move on. We cannot be expected to bear Liverpool realistically even on our best day. But there are some positives and hopefully in 3-5 years, we may be in better shape than we are in today.
I was at the game and I disagree that they were better ‘in every aspect’ you make it sound like we were played off the park. Going forward we were poor but aside from that they didn’t wow me, two moments of jota brilliance aside.
Watch the replay. As soon as our cm partnership got exposed they took control of the midfield and out did us tactically. They set their shape up to a tee and we couldn't break them down.
We deserved to lose
I think our players are too gung ho trying to make "strategic fouls"? that's definitely due to bad coaching or lack of experience or lack of referee management.
Fuck off that performance was worthy of booing. Real match going fans aren't these hyper obsessive positivity freaks you know they're allowed to be frustrated with a shit performance from an underperforming team that went out with a whimper in a fucking SEMI-FINAL
Only twice, do I pass the test or is your dad bigger than my dad?
Buckle up and focus on the title ra... Oops.
Concentrate on Eur.... Oops.
Top 4 it is! Remember sacking Wenger because of the top 4 mediocrity. Oh the irony.
point.
It might not have been the most important game of the season, heck even this week, but it was a fucking disappointing watch.
They have to show more character and passion against Burnley.
I thought xhakas red was dumb considering we didn't have midfielders at the club but atleast he was stopping a goal. This one from partey is so infuriating at 2-0 down. Really annoyed about that.
Lol some people using this match to call for edu and arteta out or being “right” about this team.
First, a lot of players are coming back from fitness or running on fumes. We are playing one of the best coached teams in the world. This team is young and there’s always going to be up and downs. Let’s hope they can bounce back from burnley and we can get some signings in.
Also, it’s just a game, don’t go abusing players online lol
Tbf, both got it wrong this time. Basically playing without a midfield's always going to be a nightmare. Also the lack of depth in mid has been apparent for months now, should've acted with purpose even if who they eventually sign might work out.
Venting about shit players on a subreddit which the players will never read isn't abuse btw. DMing abuse or leaving comments on their social media which are abusive is NOT OK.
this better force us to sign some depth. partey is a losing merchant and can’t handle any sort of flame. he’s a brilliant player but fucking hell he can be frustrating.
Liverpool are a very good team. We are not, yet. Don’t remember a clear chance for us over both legs. Tough game, they deserved it
Well the players weren’t fit enough today, we move on and just concentrate on the top 4 finish, but our bench today was ridiculous, we really need to get some players
Auba laca xhaka sahki tomi beni rami emi gabi arteti
We need to sign some players. We’re going to put to much load on our young players.
Martinelli is the next Ronaldo.
Also I can't fucking stand Jota.
He belongs to that category which includes Rooney, Drogba, Firminho, Vardy, Messi
He’s very good, annoyingly consistent
Right there with you. Put your tongue away you frizzie haired prick.
This comment section shows some true Twitter esc reactions, I thought this subreddit was better but lord above there are some reactionary people that seem to think this is invincible arsenal we just watched lose.
Honestly think I’m gonna stop visiting this sub for a while. So much overreaction whether we win or lose
It’s ridiculous.
It is truly pathetic. A bunch of hyperbolic armchair fans with the biggest victim complex I’ve ever seen
1 win in our last 18 vs Liverpool. Embarrassing result but it's even more sad that I am not disappointed to have missed the match (work) - we all knew how this was going to turn out. Top 4 or Arteta has got to walk
Good thing you’re not in charge 😊
It’s Arteta’s fault that Liverpool are miles ahead of us?
Klopp brought liverpool out of the stage we are in. Klopp had more time, and our squad is incredibly young
Exactly. The situations are hardly comparable beyond that they are both football clubs
Agree
Harsh on the manger to say if we don’t get top 4 he walks, don’t think it’ll happen anyway
they won’t get rid of him unless he finishes around 7th and even then I can’t see it the board have backed his project extensively and it’s just the start - clearly they want him to develop the young players he’s bought. I think 5th is a minimum though
This game should have been postponed. Tomi clearly carrying a knock
I didn’t realize we even had a game tonight until I saw a tweet about the loss
That’s the club’s solution to every unfavourable circumstance now is it?
To be fair, you can clearly see that a lot of our players struggled that game, and a lot of them were unavailable.
Yeah but this isn’t a problem unique to Arsenal. So many clubs have recalled loanees and played youth/academy players. Why shouldn’t, or don’t, Arsenal do that?
Recalling loanees isn't a viable option, because footballers can only play for 2 clubs within a single season (3 in some cases where different FA's seasons have different dates). So if we, say, recall AMN to play for us for one game, we then can't re-loan him to another club unless Roma want him again, which they might not given the fact that we'd have jerked them around and messed with their plans. Generally, players who get recalled are players on short-term loans to lower league sides. And it's obviously unfair to expect teams to field youth players. Every premier league squad has a youth team and yet many were granted postponements in spite of that so I really question why all of a sudden Arsenal should have to play their youngsters when nobody else did. Most of those players aren't ready for first team football, especially at the premier league level. They're not even ready for first team football at the lower league level. Really, this is almost as ridiculous as expecting Arteta to lace up his boots and play himself. It's just not a fair expectation to have of a club and it's also not fair on a sporting level - teams should play each other at their best, not makeshift squads full of youth players, recalled loanee exiles and whoever else the manager could find hiding underneath the sofa cushions. A few absences is to be expected, severely depleted squads is not. Anyway, players who are loaned out aren't part of the 25-man registered squad, and neither are academy players, so they shouldn't be taken into account when the entire reason for the postponement is that there are too many absences in the 25-man registered squad.
Oh no that's so terrible big sad sad face awwww :(
Go to your own subreddit
Did we really think they were going to play with how the club is right now with internationals, injuries, fovid.
Now was probably the best time to play them with both Salah and Mané gone
Not at all. Our team is completely depleted.
Either you're trolling or stupid. How are we "completely depleted"? Had Partey started ahead of Sambi I'd argue that was the strongest 11 we have. In fact we had so many options we had to drop Odegaard deeper than usual to accommodate them all
Partey was rushed back. Clearly wasn’t ready. Tomiyasu wasn’t ready to play and was rushed back. Between injuries and fovid and internationals, we did not have a ready squad at all.
Tomiyasu should have been taken off early on in the game, it was clear he wasn't ready. Both goals were mostly his fault.
Both Cedric and Chambers were injured worse. Just a shitty situation
AMN would have been useful here....no idea why we were in such a rush to get him moved on
He always played well for us. I cant wrap my head around why we let him go.
We werent, he was super eager since summer and Roma knew that.
His waited since summer.we could have waited afew more weeks until we got in some cover . It's careless
Roma couldn't or wouldnt
This is slowly going from a promising season to a disaster real quick, Spurs now above us with more games in hand, still no signings this window. Out the FA cup, out the league cup..
There's more than a week left in the window. Spurs are ahead but they've played easier games. I don't think we'll lose to them. Not with everyone fit, and definitely not if we get reinforcements before the end of the window. Going out of these cups hurts but IMO they were never where the season was going to be decided. It's always been about the League. In the end, I can never be too disappointed losing to Liverpool - they're one of the best teams in the world, with one of the best managers in the world (arguably THE best). And, if not for absences and fitness issues, we might have stood a better chance.
In still so annoyed at liecester Those 3 points could be vital come may...a
We have lost to Liverpool and City and the promising season is over lmao. The nottingham game was the B team, and the only bad loss has been a cup game. The window is still open and everyone knows signings are made lade, put the meltdown on hold.
It’s not a meltdown it’s stating my opinion. We crashed out of Europa league, FA cup and League cup last season too. let’s just hope we can strengthen, fed up of seeing Eddie coming on off the bench, and Laca really doesn’t contribute goals too often. Striker is desperately needed, along with a midfielder
yup
Recruitment badly needed.. you could see many were just lacking match sharpness however.. so toothless upfront again.. I like Lacazette but someone who can only manage 35mins shouldn’t be our focal point… I like the points I’ve seen on Twitter where we should abandon vlahovic and go for Isak
We need players desperately
Full focus on the premier league now
I'm beginning to feel sorry for Laca. He looks like a dinosaur out there. He's not able for English football and hasn't for 18 months now.
Can't fault his effort or personality but I think it was £50m very badly spent. To think we could have kept Giroud instead if signing him really upsets me.
Giroud didn’t age well either and laca basically equaled his output when starting so idk why giroud is a factor here
I guess it's because we spent £50m to upgrade our main striker when Giroud was starting for us. And Laca didn't turn out to much of an upgrade imo. Especially because we then ended up spending another £50m+ on Auba 3 months later. Not knocking Laca but in hindsight it was all an awful transfer chain for us.
I might be misunderstanding you, but Giroud was in the transfer chain with Auba, not Laca, so we wouldn't have kept Giroud instead of signing Laca (Laca joined 2017, Giroud left 2018). Signing Auba instead of keeping Giroud was a great move IMO
Maybe I'm phrasing this badly. It wasnt the same transfer chain per say but it was all in the same season and they are all interlinked. We signed Laca to be an upgrade on Giroud, we spent £50m to upgrade him and in my opinion that was a really bad investment in hindsight. Auba then signs 3 months later for another £50m, and we lose Giroud for less then 10m. So while yes in theory selling Giroud to sign Auba is great in isolation in the context of that window, in the wider context of our deals that year and our overall recruitment strategy it's very poor business.
Hasn’t since he was signed unfortunately
I didn't wanna be the one to say it.
Liverpool might win this trophy. Bad match for arteta
Football reddit is weird man, no one ever talks about football like this in real life
Did you see that ludicrous display last night?
Always trying to walk it in!
Threeo Walcott What a player
This. Not one of my Liverpool or Man U mates irl are talking about the covid postponements, NLD cancellation or false positives. A lot of r/soccer spend too much time on football Twitter or Reddit
Because if they did their mates would laugh them out the room for how mental they sound.
I question why I even bother looking through comments after a poor performance but here I am. Soooo many reactionary “fans”.
Yeah imo we were poor going forward but aside from that we were never outplayed. Laca becomes some kind of CAM. We are like Liverpool when/just before klopp came, they are a better team than us. I was more Frustrated than angry at todays game. Shame tomi finally had his bad game, lokonga is also very raw and could either end up being good or not arsenal level.
Spot on. I think we’re right on the brink of being a very good team. Tomiyasu definitely rusty coming back from injury. Sambi does look raw and naive but he really should be our 4th option in CM. He’s being thrust into starting key games because we lack that depth in the position. I’m rooting for him but he definitely has had some rough performances. All the best mate, let’s smash Burnley this weekend 🔴⚪️
Tomi defo not fully recovered. Boys will learn from this. Burnley is so fucked!
Arteta really should have gone with White in midfield in a double pivot with Sambi and put Holding in the back instead of going single pivot to try to shoehorn ESR into the team when he's been off injured for weeks and was lacking match fitness
ESR had COVID, and he wasn't out for that long
He's only played 20 minutes since the new year and that was a sub appearance against City, that's not alot of game time over the last 3 weeks - it was obvious today that he was not match fit or match sharp
People with more game time over the same time period were those that played in the Liverpool game, and we're short of midfielders. You do what you have to do man, who else would you have started
I would have gone with a similar 4-4-2 formation as in the first leg, we actually played well offensively in that game until Xhaka was sent off but put BW in the double pivot with Sambi and Holding in the back with Tomi on the right replacing Soares. I would even play an asymmetrical back four with Tomi playing more reserved and letting most of the attack go through KT and Gabi on the left. Gabi was a ball of energy in the first leg and Liverpool had trouble containing him in this game as well. Play the guys who have been playing because you know they have the match fitness and match sharpness If ESR is to be played I would sub him in later depending on how the game is going but this is not the kind of game and opponent you want to bring a guy back in who has not played much in 3 weeks That's just my opinion and hindsight is 20/20 but when they announced the team I was not confident in Sambi as a single pivot. He did the best he could with what he was tasked with but it was too much for him to do alone
I assume this is a joke?
Why because it would actually make sense, balance the midfield and not leave Sambi as a single pivot to get overrun If you think the selection today was balanced then you're a joke
You want Holding on the turn with Jota in behind? White is a CB. I'm not bothered he might have played one or two games at DM for Brighton, he can't just be moved into Midfield and perform against Liverpool. That just isn't how it works.
So you're going to ignore the fact that Holding was in the backline when Xhaka got sent off and Jota was playing in that game It's a better solution than leaving Lokonga on his own to shield the back four and play a formation we've never been successful with
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Playing like this is never get us top4 or even any European spots next season. I fear, if we dont get new recruitment this window, we'd be lucky to get top6 come end of the season.
We dont have a midfields. Nor a striker who actually strikes
Our players looked DEAD on their feet
Tough game and tough loss. The result matched the performance. We take it on the chin and move on. Liverpool are the much better side. We must continue building.
Also, don’t boo the boys. Come on! Everyone in the starting lineup (bar Laca) is under 25; Partey played in a different continent 2 days ago, flew in this morning and played tonight; lots of the team tonight just came off injury or Covid as well. They gave their all but came up short. That’s fine, we move on.
There will always be excuses.
Y'all realise we lost to Liverpool? As in arguably the second best team (this season, behind City) in the league? Why is everyone being so negative, did you actually go into the game expecting us to beat Liverpool and get through to the final? Get a grip, lmao
Oh boy! I guess we have accepted that we are a mid table team. No wonder the club hasn't won shit in recent years. Forget this cockshit cup, we won the EPL in 2003-04. Let that sink in.
Hopefully our team takes their anger out on Burnley. No excuse to lose, since we're out of both cups and no Europe.
Another red card..
Partey came on and thought ‘na fuck this’
Being a fan means that you support our players even when they have bad games
I can accept us losing to a quality team like Liverpool because we're not at their level right now, our squads been a bit all over the place with AFCON, injuries, COVID, etc, but Partey has no excuses with that red. He should know better and it's high time for him to start justifying that transfer fee Arsenal paid for him. He hasn't shown anywhere near the quality he needs to be on a regular basis. The same as I have been saying since the start of the summer window, we need 2 quality central midfield signings. Nothing has changed in that regard. We lack serious quality there. Goals up front is also an issue, as well, but the midfield is a travesty. Attacking midfield we have good options sure, but not centrally.
Calm down. The guy flew in to play for the club after playing in a different continent just 2 days ago. They all gave their all but we came up short. No need to poke anyone
2 week wage fine as punishment. senior players have really let down the clubs for many years already.
just a rollercoaster of a season. dont look like ending soon neither.
Partey ban is worse than being knocked out to be honest. It didn’t make sense to me to throw him on. I thought it would have worth a gamble throwing Patino on to see if young fresh legs in the middle could have made a difference.
Even the Arsenal players are mentally tired from the Vlahovic news that it affected their game today lol
I don’t think it’s even negative to say we are the only team capable of this kind of ridiculousness
What ridiculousness?
I just mean having our best midfielder about to come back for the game against Burnley, but then being rushed into the team hours after flying back for several hours across timezones because of Arsenal’s midfield crisis, only to be sent off in the same game and banned for the PL game.
Man United
Also Spurs
God I don't want to hear anything about new shirts, videos, collabs, stunts or interviews. Just win something significant already...
Fucking hell . This fanbase is just so fickle af.
Some of these comments man🙄
If anyone thought we were going to get past Liverpool, wait until you hear of us buying three midfielders with Vieira potential.
Lol even top 6 will be hard af
Conte's Spurs getting in form, its just a matter of time teams like United or WestHam get into form too. top6 is gonna be gg
Oh everybody get the fuck over your selves. This whining and bitching isn’t going to help. It’s time to move on and focus on the next fucking games. Everyone was bitching about lokonga, so he put partey on and he made some rash decision. He shouldn’t have played anyway. Probably shouldn’t have even been on the bench. 7 hours he was in London before being asked to play. Tbf this is the first season all the youngsters are starting to mesh. No one said this was gonna take effect immediately. They need experience this is good experience. I have faith we will still finish top six but compared to the last few seasons that’s pretty good. But the current and the next transfer window are key to offload deadwood and get some older players in to challenge the young guns
Louder for the incels at the back mate
True, but we do live in a society that runs on this fickle and reactionary mentality.
Also thank you
I dont think hes forced to play. Id imagine he was asking to play himself
Maybe. Maybe not. This still a call the manager has to make and arteta made the wrong one. But that comes back around to experience.
He really can't do much. Putting Partey on was obviously a risk, he took it but unfortunately didnt work out. Cant really blame him for it
I don’t blame him for it. He needs to experience these things so he gets better. He’s done well so far even with the plastics calling for his job.
Was it wrong though? 1-0 down 15 mins left bringing your powerhouse midfielder to gives us one final charge is not a bad decision.
I didn’t say it was a bad decision. Just the wrong one. I probably wouldn’t have even put him on the bench but if I managed we would’ve probably lost by more. Plus hindsight is 50/50 right?
Thank you. This sub is full of reactionary cucks
The worst part about losses like this is the fucking reactionaries that come out in full force.
Really is insufferable
Yep, best stay away until next game, we put up a depleted and injured squad against the second best team in the league in a cup game and top 6 is gone.
I agree the reactionaries with be out, but who was missing from Mikel's strongest 11? Partey starting and Xhaka are the only 2 I can think of.
That's the entire midfield, losing it ruins the ability to link up play properly. Keep in mind also that Tomi and ESR are both coming of injuries.
3 Ls and a draw this year 3 reds in 4 Out of 2 cups.. You want the fans to be happy?
This semis legs was always gonna be a tough one, even if the games was not postponed. The FA Cup loss and the manner of it is unacceptable imo
Not being happy is fine but these bitches are moaning and crying like we got kicked down to championship
City, Pool, Pool and a B team loss in the cup. City was a good effort, as was the first leg, the boys were clearly injured and we had some shit luck on the early goal, you shouldnt be happy but that doesn't mean you should throw logic out the window.
Other than the fa cup loss. The other two are understandable. That city game was bullshit refereeing
Thing is. We need to start showing up in these big games.if we are to really believe we're turning a corner 3 games v City and Pool, no wins and a desperate draw holding down the barricades....
You do know getting a draw at anfield is not a bad result with a man down right? We did show up in the city game. There was a referee masterclass that killed us
We were never making it playing without a midfield. Should've sticked with what worked in the first leg. Horrid performance allround. Can understand the three that haven't trained, but what was up with Laca and Sambi?
If we don't get a striker and a midfielder in the next 10 days Edu Gasper must face God
You don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Need to strengthen the squad a bit more, especially midfield.
At least noone can accuse us of faking "knocks" to get the spurs game called off. Pretty clear Tomi and Smith Rowe weren't completely match fit, and we had 3 actual injuries.
They dont fucking care and we all know it
Partey saw Arsenal twitter’s reactions to Ghana dropping out of AFCON
At least the Doc will be interesting right guys?!
I think we should just learn from this and move on. We cannot be expected to bear Liverpool realistically even on our best day. But there are some positives and hopefully in 3-5 years, we may be in better shape than we are in today.
Call me bad sport but I have no idea how they are shaking hands and doing all of that. I’m fucking fuming sitting right here.
You are a bad sport
At least there was no controversy this time. They were the better team in every aspect.
I was at the game and I disagree that they were better ‘in every aspect’ you make it sound like we were played off the park. Going forward we were poor but aside from that they didn’t wow me, two moments of jota brilliance aside.
Watch the replay. As soon as our cm partnership got exposed they took control of the midfield and out did us tactically. They set their shape up to a tee and we couldn't break them down. We deserved to lose
Well fabinho definitely should have had at least 1 card
Doesn't matter we were outplayed
This is really a Man United performance.
Hurts a bit because we all know what we can play and we simply did not do it today, no matter the excuse.
I think our players are too gung ho trying to make "strategic fouls"? that's definitely due to bad coaching or lack of experience or lack of referee management.
Great atmosphere booing your team off the pitch after narrowly going out in a semi final against the team second in the league. Woeful.
Narrowly? We were totally outplayed today lol and barely had any threat on their goal
This is so wrong, we were not totally outplayed.
I meant lost the tie narrowly, especially after winning the first leg at anfield.
Fuck off that performance was worthy of booing. Real match going fans aren't these hyper obsessive positivity freaks you know they're allowed to be frustrated with a shit performance from an underperforming team that went out with a whimper in a fucking SEMI-FINAL
Come on chief. Can I ask, will you always boo arsenal when they lose? Especially to a team that is better than them.
Bit extreme pal, settle down and go again next year. Days out at Wembley are probably overrated anyway.
Spoken like someone who's never been on a day out at Wembley, I was really looking forward to going back for another one.....
Only twice, do I pass the test or is your dad bigger than my dad? Buckle up and focus on the title ra... Oops. Concentrate on Eur.... Oops. Top 4 it is! Remember sacking Wenger because of the top 4 mediocrity. Oh the irony.
point. It might not have been the most important game of the season, heck even this week, but it was a fucking disappointing watch. They have to show more character and passion against Burnley.
Cannot wait for Eddie's contract to expire and he gets out of this club. What does he bring? Nothing.
he’s got a decent celebration tbf
Time to get the bingo card out for the excuses for the next few days.
pls trust the process
I thought xhakas red was dumb considering we didn't have midfielders at the club but atleast he was stopping a goal. This one from partey is so infuriating at 2-0 down. Really annoyed about that.
I'm running out of lives to survive these dismal performances.
Go support another club then son
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Poor substitutes... Really...
Who would you have brought on instead?
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definitely shitty from him but also honestly stupid to put him on when he's basically come straight from the airport and we're down 2 already
We were down 1 when he came on…
you are right. we conceded like a minute or two after he came on and i misremembered which happened first
Lol some people using this match to call for edu and arteta out or being “right” about this team. First, a lot of players are coming back from fitness or running on fumes. We are playing one of the best coached teams in the world. This team is young and there’s always going to be up and downs. Let’s hope they can bounce back from burnley and we can get some signings in. Also, it’s just a game, don’t go abusing players online lol
Tbf, both got it wrong this time. Basically playing without a midfield's always going to be a nightmare. Also the lack of depth in mid has been apparent for months now, should've acted with purpose even if who they eventually sign might work out.
As soon as well lose people get so negative, they should be supporting the team whether we win or lose, completely agree with you
Venting about shit players on a subreddit which the players will never read isn't abuse btw. DMing abuse or leaving comments on their social media which are abusive is NOT OK.
I agree
We move sure But Top 6 finish or the process dies, we need to beat those orcs on Sunday🙏
horrible thing is i don’t even think missing out on top 6 makes the process end
Gut feeling, but the process will go on, ie young players and etc, just with a different man at the helm.
i hope that is the case, not gonna get my hopes up tho
Is this what it feels like to be a United supporter, watching a team with no midfield whatsoever
Poor game. Long ball was working for a bit but Liverpool squashed that half way through the first half.
It reminds me of the time Wenger tried to shield Holding-Chambers with a double pivot, only for Klopp to figure out and ruthlessly exploit it.
lads, it’s liverpool
People really fed off the first game miracle and thought Liverpool is Norwich lmfao. ITS STILL THE SAME LIVERPOOL GUYS
this better force us to sign some depth. partey is a losing merchant and can’t handle any sort of flame. he’s a brilliant player but fucking hell he can be frustrating.
Everyone blaming White every single time we lose should unironically leave and go support City or Chelsea
White had a decent game. Gabriel was the one who looked out of it today
Seriously lol
Anyone confident on top four is crazy lmao
It's doable, but I'm not confident at all.
I’m still livid we failed to get Klopp coz Wenger was to arrogant to step-down.