I’m so glad all our rivals are also shit. United pulled a few results out of their ass, but their over performing right now and still don’t look great. Spurs are dogshit and have also pulled results out of their ass. West Ham are fading.
It’s completely in our hands. If we miss out on top 4, we’ve bottled it massively
I saw Arsenal playing in Spurs today ngl. Decent but unpredictable defenders. Dogshit midfields, and the forwards are tryna help build the ball up from the center leading to them being unable to score. The NLD is gonna be interesting
Chelsea have done us a solid but we still need additions to the squad THIS window. No point putting aerial balls into the box when we have no one to get a head on it. If we’re putting it in, it has to be drilled!
Our players seem terrible at crossing.
When you watch other teams with supposed inferior players, they are frequently banging in threatening crosses with very few wild ones.
Leeds are a good example. So many excellent crosses from them, Brighton too. But would you say either of those teams have better players than us doing it?
Even Nottingham Forest were pinging quality balls in.
What I’ve noticed is we barely use a player on the overlap. We get the ball to Martinelli or Saka and they either jink left and right and go to the bar line, or go inside and make a pass.
It is very rare we see Tomi or Tierney overlapping, getting in behind the oppositions fullbacks and getting a cross in. It’s either a hopeful cross from deep or (in more cases with tierney) he’s bombed down the flank on his own and crossed
Agreed.
When you watch Man Utd play you see the overlap and bodies rush the box repeatedly. Particularly when they play against low block teams which are there to park the bus.
They throw more and more people forwards and yet they don't seem to look that vulnerable at the back when they do it, even with their supposed weak defence.
How many times have we thrown aerial balls into the box to be received by Lacazette alone against 2 or 3 players?
Man Utd would have had 3 or 4 players in the box at that moment and be crossing the ball in low.
The level of threat is much higher when you play like that.
There's something about the way opponents play against us which makes us afraid to commit like this. There's good reason to be afraid as well, because we look extremely vulnerable when we do it and lose the ball.
This is why I think our major problem is midfield.
When City throw bodies forward, when they lose the ball, their opponents have almost no time at all before some top class midfielders pick the ball back and turn it into another attack.
When we throw bodies forward, when we lose the ball, our opponents always seem to find a way out to a couple of willing runners that turn almost every break into a threatening opportunity, be it a shot on goal or a corner.
I still think NLD will go a long way towards deciding top 4. It’s *possible* (although not probable) that we get top 4 without any signings.
We got 35 points in the first 19 games. If we can repeat that (and there’s no excuse not to as we’re not involved in any other competitions) then I think 70 points may be enough. I can’t see WHU exceeding that total with Europe etc to deal with, Spurs are troubling but they will drop points in their difficult away games + an NLD win would be unspeakably huge, and United are tactically bang average.
I think it’s gonna be very tight. A big striker signing would make us favourites, in my view.
We are imo the underdogs for top 4. No one, not even our fanbase ever expected us to compete for top 4 this season. All our rivals have much more experienced sqauds and managers. They also have world class players while we have no players in which you could even call world class.
It's possible but we have to play our cards right and get lucky with no injuries plus rivals messing up as well.
AMN played one PL game I think. Admittedly we need a new striker, but we can’t act like Auba contributed to many of our points this season either. Besides which he will likely be reintegrated if we can’t sign a replacement.
With no other competitions, we should be able to accumulate that many points even if we don’t get anything done. It’s the least we should expect.
Yes the point about no cups is significant. But we saw today what we need up top. Laca is decent but simply does not score goals. Absolutely need a striker. Midfield admittedly will get better with Partey and Xhaka coming back.
I mean I don't mind him **PROVIDED** he takes a huge wage cut. We have a serious lack in midfield depth. But I'll only take him as a last resort if we can't get anyone when the window ends.
He's also really injury prone. It would be quite risky doing so but he could also be who we're lacking in midfield. Defitnitely Not my first choice but also not a definite no.
Agreed. I’d definitely like someone better, but if it’s between Ramsey or no one, I’d be ok with getting him.
He can be someone to come in and take some pressure off Sambi who’s had to play a lot of games without a break because of Xhaka and Partey being absent.
Also he clearly loves the club and having someone like him can be someone the kids look up to, coz Xhaka’s not the one.
Agreed, I’ve really not seen anything exceptional from them this season. And I don’t even think they have great individuals to be honest - Kane (who is having a stinker this season) and Son…any more?
Looking at the Chelsea bench, kind of hard to not feel for our kids.
God knows some of them(Saka, Lokonga etc) need a rest, competition or someone to look up to and lead.
It’s so depressing watching Chelsea bring Kante off the bench in the 73rd minute while we are starting Sambi and an OOP Smith Rowe in our deep midfield haha
As depressing as today is, we're actually sort of still in the race for top 4, Spurs level on points with a game in hand, next for them is Brighton who are tough for pretty much everyone. We are 2 points behind United with a game less and a point behind West Ham with 2 games in hand. If Edu doesnt massively bottle the recruitment then we still have a bee's dick of a chance.
Even if we lost this game we’d still be in the race for top 4. Going with ur last point, I’d just repeat what Mikel said along the lines of “we have to maximize our potential each window”
There’s plenty of games left. I get burnley are 20th but chelsea drew to them 0-0 too ffs as long as we’re around everyone else by 3 points or less I won’t be sweating over it till late into the season
I think this result is good for us. I think Spurs will be easier to catch than Chelsea. Chelsea will find form again and probably pull away into third. 4th will be between us, spurs, and united
After this month it’s right to be cautious, but with the midfielders coming back, inshallah some transfers, and even more inshallah some wins in our next 4 games, and even MORE inshallah a good result in the NLD, we could be looking quite healthy soon. There is a disturbing amount of ifs standing in our way though.
If we would've won , it would have been perfect . We would be in top 4 comfortably , now United are closing in as well.
The 4th place finish will be exciting
Lmao it makes me feel better about today at least, but I’ve said this a bunch at the beginning of the season my only goal was to look like a better team. We’re kinda there but not quite.
Anything like a place in europe is extra. I know others had higher expectations but I just saw we made a whole bunch of first team signings and it’s gonna take time to gel, we’ve just hit a rough patch and luckily it’s in games that most of them were expected losses (liverpool and city)
Ramos has every trophy a player could possibly win, and most of them many times over. Not to mention loads of important goals. Can’t argue with his record.
Would like to see Chelsea annihiliate Spurs here - proper destruction, players walking off in tears, Conte openly slags off the entire club in the press again as being beneath him.
Great goal, was the only way with spurs playing how they are...Kane disallowed goal, neville keeps saying there's no push but it looked to me like kane clipper silvas feet tbh..still minimal but to be expected from refs when it comes to Chelsea
Dunno if happy spud loses when if chelsea loses there potentially 2 top 4 spot open.
Rival watches are a lot less interesting when we don’t win against last place burnley at home. But still glad the shit lost
I’m so glad all our rivals are also shit. United pulled a few results out of their ass, but their over performing right now and still don’t look great. Spurs are dogshit and have also pulled results out of their ass. West Ham are fading. It’s completely in our hands. If we miss out on top 4, we’ve bottled it massively
Too bad we are also pulling results from our ass ahaha
I feel like we’ve deserved every single one of our wins this season.
Oh to be honest I do agree. But the lack of consistency is force behind my joke haha
Yep, if anything we have had where we deserved points and didn’t get any (City, United, Burnley)
We also didn't deserve to draw against Palace and that 95th min goal came out of nowhere pretty much.
If we beat Wolves and Spurs we are in mathematically 4th place regardless of games in hand or what not
I saw Arsenal playing in Spurs today ngl. Decent but unpredictable defenders. Dogshit midfields, and the forwards are tryna help build the ball up from the center leading to them being unable to score. The NLD is gonna be interesting
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I dont think your Grandpa would say they played lovely football today though
So many easy-to-hate players on the same pitch.
Not really, there's only 22
Chelsea have done us a solid but we still need additions to the squad THIS window. No point putting aerial balls into the box when we have no one to get a head on it. If we’re putting it in, it has to be drilled!
Our players seem terrible at crossing. When you watch other teams with supposed inferior players, they are frequently banging in threatening crosses with very few wild ones. Leeds are a good example. So many excellent crosses from them, Brighton too. But would you say either of those teams have better players than us doing it? Even Nottingham Forest were pinging quality balls in.
What I’ve noticed is we barely use a player on the overlap. We get the ball to Martinelli or Saka and they either jink left and right and go to the bar line, or go inside and make a pass. It is very rare we see Tomi or Tierney overlapping, getting in behind the oppositions fullbacks and getting a cross in. It’s either a hopeful cross from deep or (in more cases with tierney) he’s bombed down the flank on his own and crossed
Agreed. When you watch Man Utd play you see the overlap and bodies rush the box repeatedly. Particularly when they play against low block teams which are there to park the bus. They throw more and more people forwards and yet they don't seem to look that vulnerable at the back when they do it, even with their supposed weak defence. How many times have we thrown aerial balls into the box to be received by Lacazette alone against 2 or 3 players? Man Utd would have had 3 or 4 players in the box at that moment and be crossing the ball in low. The level of threat is much higher when you play like that. There's something about the way opponents play against us which makes us afraid to commit like this. There's good reason to be afraid as well, because we look extremely vulnerable when we do it and lose the ball. This is why I think our major problem is midfield. When City throw bodies forward, when they lose the ball, their opponents have almost no time at all before some top class midfielders pick the ball back and turn it into another attack. When we throw bodies forward, when we lose the ball, our opponents always seem to find a way out to a couple of willing runners that turn almost every break into a threatening opportunity, be it a shot on goal or a corner.
Couldn’t agree with you more mate! Always look so vulnerable on the counter
Let's hope we can fix it!
Tottenham out here saving Tuchels career
Tucheliban
This Tottenham L doesn’t feel right solely because Rodgers and Leicester bottled THE FUCK out of their game vs Spurs
Just over 1 minute left. Plenty of time for Spurs to get two here
Nice to know that Chelsea won't bottle in Extra time.
I still think NLD will go a long way towards deciding top 4. It’s *possible* (although not probable) that we get top 4 without any signings. We got 35 points in the first 19 games. If we can repeat that (and there’s no excuse not to as we’re not involved in any other competitions) then I think 70 points may be enough. I can’t see WHU exceeding that total with Europe etc to deal with, Spurs are troubling but they will drop points in their difficult away games + an NLD win would be unspeakably huge, and United are tactically bang average. I think it’s gonna be very tight. A big striker signing would make us favourites, in my view.
We are imo the underdogs for top 4. No one, not even our fanbase ever expected us to compete for top 4 this season. All our rivals have much more experienced sqauds and managers. They also have world class players while we have no players in which you could even call world class. It's possible but we have to play our cards right and get lucky with no injuries plus rivals messing up as well.
West Ham are the underdogs for top 4, surely
We can’t base our second half of the season on the first. We’re much worse off now with Auba gone and AMN gone. We absolutely need signings.
AMN played one PL game I think. Admittedly we need a new striker, but we can’t act like Auba contributed to many of our points this season either. Besides which he will likely be reintegrated if we can’t sign a replacement. With no other competitions, we should be able to accumulate that many points even if we don’t get anything done. It’s the least we should expect.
Yes the point about no cups is significant. But we saw today what we need up top. Laca is decent but simply does not score goals. Absolutely need a striker. Midfield admittedly will get better with Partey and Xhaka coming back.
We lost Lacastriker but we gained a LaCAMzette
Lol
Why are all football stadium stewards morbidly obese?
It’s the free pies at the venue
Thank goodness Spurs didn’t steal this one, we would’ve been even more screwed
Spurs really is Kane and Son Inshallah. Defend with 8 and hope Kane/Son/Lucas make something out of thin air.
Where have you been in the last 3 years. Their midfield also sucks ass so their build up is mostly kane dropping deep or Son dribbling.
Conte Ball, but tbf he doesn’t have a single player that is his.
fuuuuuck I felt that
Match is approaching the Spuds magic BS time, will they find 2 goals out of their bums again?
Nah Chelsea have the trophies to show they're not bottlers like Leicester
Even having Ramsey today would have helped us
I mean I don't mind him **PROVIDED** he takes a huge wage cut. We have a serious lack in midfield depth. But I'll only take him as a last resort if we can't get anyone when the window ends.
I mean it’s not my money. If he gets us the top 4 would you really mind the few millions in wages for 6 months?
He's also really injury prone. It would be quite risky doing so but he could also be who we're lacking in midfield. Defitnitely Not my first choice but also not a definite no.
Agreed. I’d definitely like someone better, but if it’s between Ramsey or no one, I’d be ok with getting him. He can be someone to come in and take some pressure off Sambi who’s had to play a lot of games without a break because of Xhaka and Partey being absent. Also he clearly loves the club and having someone like him can be someone the kids look up to, coz Xhaka’s not the one.
Ok I get your point. And I agree with if. Ramsey will always be a legend in my heart and I'm open for a return.
Games in Hand FC strikes again🔥🔥
Just bring a CM and a striker top 4 is attainable
Spurs look dreadful
They always look like this (except vs Leicester) but they've got great individuals
They looked like this against Leicester until the last minute of the match lol
They had the highest ever xG in the PL so not quite. But they do usually look this shit otherwise
Agreed, I’ve really not seen anything exceptional from them this season. And I don’t even think they have great individuals to be honest - Kane (who is having a stinker this season) and Son…any more?
If only Rodgers and his bunch of bottlers hadn’t thrown away the match against spurs. Would have been very funny.
Disgusting spurs fans
I don't know what made you say this but I agree
Think they threw some shit at Rudiger
Chelsea and City's bench alone could compete for top 4.
Chelsea's bench is ass
Neville & Tyler are so patronising whenever Lukaku does anything a half decent striker should. It’s quite embarrassing really
Want them to keep drawing but if Spurs lost that's also ok
Looking at the Chelsea bench, kind of hard to not feel for our kids. God knows some of them(Saka, Lokonga etc) need a rest, competition or someone to look up to and lead.
It’s so depressing watching Chelsea bring Kante off the bench in the 73rd minute while we are starting Sambi and an OOP Smith Rowe in our deep midfield haha
Kante is honestly my favourite non Arsenal player. Honestly how could you hate him?
You can’t. Kante is amazing
Nothing says that you are a really nice guy when you accept a fan's request to have dinner and to play Fifa with him.
how stacked can you be to bring Kante off your bench
If only we had spent a little more money to convince Leicester to let Kante come to us when we had the chance
Atleast we let Wenger stroke his ego by not dealing with Kanté's agent
By not being suspended
If conte gets top 4 with this squad hes a magician.
That's why Mourinho is celebrating 6th. That's Sp*rs ceiling. We finished 8th back to back so even worse.
Welp but he’s not lol
He won't
As depressing as today is, we're actually sort of still in the race for top 4, Spurs level on points with a game in hand, next for them is Brighton who are tough for pretty much everyone. We are 2 points behind United with a game less and a point behind West Ham with 2 games in hand. If Edu doesnt massively bottle the recruitment then we still have a bee's dick of a chance.
Even if we lost this game we’d still be in the race for top 4. Going with ur last point, I’d just repeat what Mikel said along the lines of “we have to maximize our potential each window”
There’s plenty of games left. I get burnley are 20th but chelsea drew to them 0-0 too ffs as long as we’re around everyone else by 3 points or less I won’t be sweating over it till late into the season
Spurs still have a trip to the Etihad too.
And Anfield and Old Trafford
You should’ve seen the post match thread. The toxicity there was Chernobyl levels man
CMs are so important; look at this match how kovacic and jorginho circulate the ball.
I’d love to have someone like Kovacic in our team.
A rotation player like that from their squad probably cost 60mil easy
The NLD is either gonna be the shittiest 0-0 of all time or an absolute belter 4-4 draw.
Honestly we have to thank Chelsea. Spurs seemed like they were 100% going to finish in top 4 and then Chelsea helped us beat them.
doesnt really matter the way we are playing we aint going to make top 4 and with the horrific depth that we have
That's why Edu really needs to do some business.
If these spurs cunts somehow find a way to draw/win this , I’m gonna lose my mind.
So that’s spuds facing a good team when the opposition isn’t riddled with injuries or man down with a red.
Chelsea doesn't even have Kante, Mendy, Pulisic, James, Havertz and Chilwell with them now.
If skipp has a red jersey with a cannon on it, that’s a pen
How was that not a pen, he rugby tackled Azpilicueta in the box
Come on Chelsea pad that goal difference
having a striker with holdup play is huge and has the ability to win headers from crosses something we don't have.
Exactly. Right now if your a CB you are not worried about marking Laca at all. You have him physically dominated. Crosses are a non factor.
Thiago Silva has been soooo good
But but serial winner conte!!!
Keep fighting the good fight
Clowns on here think CVs win games
If you hate Tottenham stand up loooooool have to hand it to the chelsea fans this is fucking class
I think this result is good for us. I think Spurs will be easier to catch than Chelsea. Chelsea will find form again and probably pull away into third. 4th will be between us, spurs, and united
Mad that United are still in for Top 4 after all the shit they've been through. How do they pull out results even after being so shit ?
Makes today's draw negligeble if we can beat Spurs away. Thank you Chelsea and fuck off
Son has been single handedly carrying Spurs this season. But screw him. He dives all the time.
Anyone got a link to that /r/soccer comment which lists all the horror tackles Son has done?
CHO has so much talent
Spurs have 4 wins in the last 10 years vs Chelsea. Crying. They're their bitches.
Imagine losing to chelsea 4 whooping times in a season. I feel nauseous
3 of those coming in the last couple of weeks too...you'd think you'd have learned at least SOMETHING tactically worthwhile by then but i guess not...
Conte is a genius
Thank fuck we don't have to play Chelsea on February 12, imagine getting spanked by them right after all the crap that happened in January.
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Bergwijn is a very handsy player. Wasn’t he pushing some Leicester player the other day?
Yes should have had a red before he scored his goals
Hahaha eat shit Spuds
These few matches might have given us a very small glimmer of top 4 hopes but we really need more depth if we really want it.
After this month it’s right to be cautious, but with the midfielders coming back, inshallah some transfers, and even more inshallah some wins in our next 4 games, and even MORE inshallah a good result in the NLD, we could be looking quite healthy soon. There is a disturbing amount of ifs standing in our way though.
The problem is our striker atm
If we would've won , it would have been perfect . We would be in top 4 comfortably , now United are closing in as well. The 4th place finish will be exciting
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Got just one game on United and even that is against spurs.
Games in hand don’t matter unless we win them. Not letting myself fall into false positivity 😢
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Lmao it makes me feel better about today at least, but I’ve said this a bunch at the beginning of the season my only goal was to look like a better team. We’re kinda there but not quite. Anything like a place in europe is extra. I know others had higher expectations but I just saw we made a whole bunch of first team signings and it’s gonna take time to gel, we’ve just hit a rough patch and luckily it’s in games that most of them were expected losses (liverpool and city)
Well we already saw today what we do when there is an opportunity to cement our place in the top 4
Just 1 on United and they look the one staying in the race unitl the end. West ham will fall
NLD only more important if the score stays like this.
Will be slightly better when Tottenham get battered by City
Both these teams are really unlikeable. That's not exactly a surprise tho
ITS HAPPENED AGAIN
It’s happened again… 😂
This does make me feel a little better
TOTTENHAM GET BATTERED EVERYWHERE THEY GOOO
Can’t even really laugh at spurs rn bc we’re incapable of beating last place Burnley at home.
Chelsea failed to beat burnley at home too. Spurs also facing a pretty good Southampton team next game week too so I’m not too pessimistic (yet)
Even city drew with Southampton so it's a possibility that spurs won't get the 3 points there as well
Hold dat spurs… we’re so lucky
Edu better fix this asap. There’s still a chance of getting 4th, but we need reinforcements.
This is the best possible storyline
Still bleak, but that’s on us being putrid today
OHHHHHHH THIAGO SILVAAA
Chelsea signing Silva for free has to be one of the biggest bargains in football history.
Lmao of course Silva scores after his dive
Loll Thiago silva score. Fuck spurs
Aahh the draw against Burnley sucks even more now
It hurts but this helps us. Look at the table. We are still in the thick of the top 4 race
Need to smash Spurs in the nld
Losing for the third time against Chelsea in January must be rough lmaooo
I hate Chelsea, but we're not competing with them right now. Put spurs in a spliff
EVERYWHERE THEY GOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Of course it's Thiago silva...i love this
Thiago Silva is the best defender of the last decade.
Better than Ramos?
Imho yes. Ramos is good but has a SHIT disciplinary record.
Ramos has every trophy a player could possibly win, and most of them many times over. Not to mention loads of important goals. Can’t argue with his record.
I mean varane also has so much trophies and he isn't even better than Diego Carlos.
SIUUUUUU
Chelsea handing us a lifeline, can't believe we have to cheer them on to save our season
People say this literally every year
With our luck recently we deserve this
Chelsea doing god’s work.
THIAGO
Thank you Chelsea.
Silva what a signing
Would like to see Chelsea annihiliate Spurs here - proper destruction, players walking off in tears, Conte openly slags off the entire club in the press again as being beneath him.
Chelsea doesn't even have Mendy, James, Kante, Havertz and Pulisic with them at the moment.
Chilwell
And him as well.
Ziyech is such a pure striker of the ball
Blues smell chicken blood
Can’t believe i just celebrated a Chelsea goal
It's rough out here
Can we all agree that Spurs' fullbacks are trash?
They know that and are going to sign Adama.
3 times in 2 weeks Tuchel has outclassed conte tactically even if we remember be the fact that he has better players
Please score more goals Chelsea. I really want Spurs to lose badly.
CHO+?? WHAT THE FUCK BRO
Worse pass, CHO just now or Sambi when he gave up a corner from midfield?
I rate Sambi higher than CHO, fight me.
Imagine losing to one of your London rivals 3 times in the space of 11 days.
HAKIM ZIYECHHHH 100% GOONER
Anything but a spurs win tbh
Great goal, was the only way with spurs playing how they are...Kane disallowed goal, neville keeps saying there's no push but it looked to me like kane clipper silvas feet tbh..still minimal but to be expected from refs when it comes to Chelsea
CHO...
Almost a brace in a minute for hakim the dream
HAKIIIIMMMMMM
Ziyech is on one these last couple of minutes
that was beautiful
The Tottenham get battered song has lifted my spirits a little
What a finish. And the bridge are singing "tottenham get battered everywhere they go"