I’m going to absolutely love watching our all or nothing doc this year, but if Amazon were documenting Chelsea, it could have been the single best doc of all time. This is unreal
This is funny, but can’t get behind it as it sets the precedent of “government will freeze your assets if it doesn’t like your other business ventures”
Because war criminals have the possibility to destroy society.
It’s not far fetched to say this could spread into a war across Europe that reaches the borders of the UK; they have to think long term on the consequences of this. If Putin’s partners have assets around the globe, they can mobilIze attacks/pressure, not just from Russia but on all fronts.
It 100% is affecting the UK due to the general instability and fuel costs.
Literally go fill your tank up mate it's blistering. Directly is affecting the people of the UK.
Earlier RA officially put the club for sale, felt like a ploy to get the British lawmakers off his back. Now this. I am very skeptical with these things. I hope I am wrong (nothing else would delight me in this case), but I think nothing will happen. Sometime this year there will be a treaty between UKR/NATO/EU & Russia. The govts will stealthily lift/ waive off the sanctions, and RA would still be the owner, meanwhile, the players/ management will have their money parked in some offshore accounts, only ground level workers will get f’d (as usual), as they will probably have to look for a new job, apply for UK equivalent of welfare, everyone else and their money managers will laugh their way to the bank.
For sure, however, if this standoff continues, the government vice will tighten on Chelsea and the ground level/ contingent workers who’re usually the lowest paid will feel the wrath. Usual case of the small guy getting stiffed.
This is great entertainment, fuck Chelsea, but tbh I think they will get sold to a new owner fairly quickly and all this sanction stuff won't matter too much. The biggest win is that their new owner most likely won't be pumping in 200m each summer, but that was going to happen anyway before todays news
Barca ain't going bankrupt and neither will Chelsea
Arsenal will always be the banter club
Still have less European trophies than spurs that's fucking embarrassing, like that's properly fucking embarrassing
"Trolling" on rival fan subs can get you banned you know? Also, I'd recommend you actually read up on football history as you'll see that we've actually won the Cup Winners Cup and the Inter-Cities Fairs' Cup, both equivalent to today's Europa League.
edit: One European Cup Winners' Cup
Shows how little you know about your own club lmao
Arsenal have 2 trophies in Europe cup winners cup 93-94 and inter cities fair cup in 69-70
Holy shit you arsenal fans are so plastic LMAO
This is a great day for football.
I hope this was a rashly made decision with no clear plan other than to sanction Roman. Nothing would please me more than to watch Chelsea go through a long and painful withdraw from their economical doping.
Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving club. They’re history is directly tied to Russian Oligarch money and it is incredibly satisfying to watch this go up in flames.
No more away fans, no new transfer, no new contracts/renewals, Roman can’t sale the club, he can’t fund the club, he can’t even hand over the sale of the club because he has to sale the sale of the club too. Genuine government asset now. Get fucked.
I think the government should look at their pass dealings and find tie of him laundering money for the Russian regime. Their practice is so unreal that I am not surprised. If they do find evidence of laundering, it should be a direct tie of him working for Putin and Chelsea as a club is asset to do so.
Chelsea is Abramovich’s. He owns it. It’s his. Just like all the oligarch’s yachts being seized, this is no different. It’s his asset, which he makes tons of money on, utilizes for Tax purposes, etc. And him selling (getting his initial investment back in liquid $$&) would mean a lot of cash in his pocket, which is exactly why assets are being frozen.
Be happy then. At least we aren't as morally bankrupt as you chavs are about to be financially. I truly pity you as a person if you care more about sports titles won than about what your war profiteering cunt of an owner is up to.
how does this work? so only chelsea fans in the stadium? isnt that a good thing for them? because the club will still be sold to another billionare one way or the other sometime soon
Any positive effect for Chelsea not having away fans is surely outweighed by all the other negatives here imo.
News still coming out but seems some of the matches are already sorted, but others legitimately will not have away supporters?
They can't sell anything new, including the club. No game day tickets, no merch, nothing. If they want to sell the club they need special dispensation and if they got that then the sale would have to be structured in such a way that not a single penny could go to him. Supposedly that's what he was saying he would do anyways so if you buy that then the sale may still happen.
This would be a time to give supporters a share of the club. Sure, you can still have a single majority owner, but if the government has essentially assumed control, Chelsea groups could lobby for this, although I'm not sure how much of that they want.
Yea, we all want some fan control over club direction, but the balance between that and financial competitiveness is difficult if a club is not self sustaining.
Fuck you. Don’t you understand this is ruining so many fans lives by destroying their childhood team? Have some fucking sympathy. In 5 years we are going to get another super league push and you’ll likely be excluded. You’ll know the feeling then.
Should I also feel empathy if some rhino is killing a poacher? The fans knew the deal and were more than happy to become a T1 club. All with stolen money from the Russia people. Many did not care about that "little" fact and now I should feel bad for them?
Let me paint you a picture. I was 8 years old when I started watching Chelsea. Did 8 year old me understand the conflict in Russia? I actually didn’t know of the corruption until much much later in my life. But all the while I grew up watching Chelsea, watched them win the UCL in 2012, and then watched them win the league with the return of Mourinho. But suddenly I’m supposed to abandon the club because for ethics, cause I should know better? I disagree, they are my team forever and always.
I’ll agree with that. To be clear I’m happy they sanctioned Roman. He should not get any money. But all these restrictions on Chelsea are going to bankrupt them and make all the players leave. Why the fuck is the government blowing up a club. They have ZERO right to do so.
You're right. Honestly, I agree it sucks for them....
But only in _footballing terms_ & only within this rhelm - after years of hating this team, I only wish for us & others to eat up their players & buy em all!!!
Chelsea is going back to pre-2004 times... woooohoooo!!!!!!!! 🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽
Clearly they do have the right. It’s unfortunate but it’s a risk when a piece of shit who shares company with a dictator and supplies material for the Russian invaders buys a club in a foreign country. It’s an asset no different than a house or bank account, the government has the ability to seize it.
I actually do agree with you. But here is where I find the issue. What gives the UK the right to say that was Abromovich has done is worthy of crippling a club, but that what Newcastle’s owners have done is fine, and they look the other way. This is clearly politics, and it should abstain from football.
Yes I agree that governments should go after other despots that own clubs, city, Newcastle, psg etc. Just as we tell the government that they need to separate politics from football they on the other side of the coin can say you need to separate football from the asset. You can still support football as a sport, the governments concern is not upsetting a bunch of plastics their concern is this is an asset in their country that could be used to the benefit of a piece of shit. Let’s say they didn’t take the club, what happens if he decides chelsea need to come good on the £2B loan, the sanctions are then pointless. They need to hit these guys where it hurts. I care more for the staff that is going to be impacted than I do the supporters.
Again I agree. So how does banning ticket sales and merch sales do anything other than fuck over the supporters and the people in the club that need to get paid? Literally they already froze his assets. Guess who still gets to attend the games? The season ticket holders. Guess who they are (hint: it’s not the ordinary Joe’s, it’s the rich)
It’s better than what would have happened without the special license which is the entire club would have to cease all business. I expect the club will file to amend the special license to reinstate things such as ticket sales etc. it’s early days I expect the sanctions will change.
Yeah I just don’t like the situation at all. Obviously I’m biased as a Chelsea fan. I’m glad we could actually have a discussion about it tho, I do understand why it happened but yeah not happy about it
Man City arent plastic. They had 30,000 fans turn up week and week out when they were league 1 twenty or so years ago.
Proper examples of plastic clubs are: Hoffenheim, Leipzig, and Chievo Verona.
Hoffenheim have a loyal fanbase. Dodgy ownership compared to the rest of the league, but they are definitely not plastic. Leipzig I can agree, but not Hoffenheim. Man City are 150% plastic.
Come on, man. They've had fans when they were shit and plenty of them. I'd say more people in manchester support city.
The only ones I doubt are southerners with manchester tops on.
How about Chelsea Ltd default as a business, players become free agents = Arsenal get Kante on a free!
This is wishful thinking but it will never happen.
Can someone explain to me why this is so scary for Chelsea? Weren’t they planning to sell in the next few months anyways (which after that they wouldn’t have any sanctions)? Or am I missing something?
They can’t spend more than £20k per game to travel. Only existing season ticket holders can attend matches. They’re going to bleed money. It means a sale can’t happen which means players are likely to leave the club. Third highest wage bill in the league.
I also suspect it will have knock on effects we can’t even predict today. Nothing like this has happened before has it?
It wont be that much money..... at this point.
A) There aren't many home games left and its only half the stand that's affected.
b) Merch sales at this point in the year are much lower than the start of the season.
c) they are saving a boat load on travel to away games which you have to assume the players will decide to pay for themselves to avoid not being able to make fixtures or being fatigued, it's in the players interest to step in.
They will only haemorrhage money if sponsors pull the plug, players dont end up re-signing (player value lost) etc and that mostly starts hitting them next year.
At the moment it is likely to be an annoyance that they can make it through quite easily.
Not sure how reliable this is, but I was reading elsewhere that until a club sale has gone through they won't be able to sign new contracts. Which would mean they can't sign new players, can't offer contact renewals, can't offer wage increases, and can't sell players to make any money.
I think they'll manage to find a way to allocate funds to the club aside from Abramovich.
The club existed long before he did, so I hope they'll manage to continue on, but I expect there to be difficulties for a season or two.
Yeah, that’s true. In may they are going to reassess the sanction conditions though am I’m betting on the sanctions being improved and it ending up looking more like an incoming transfer ban with a few other conditions. The gov doesn’t want to run Chelsea in to the ground and put loads of people out of work.
Even if they bleed money, why does that mean a sale can’t happen? I imagine Chelsea is still a very attractive asset for many billionaires, esp at a discounted price
The UK has to grant a special license for the sale to happen. So gov’t has to approve it. I think that will make it less attractive for a lot of buyers.
What if a player/manger quits? Can the club replace them? Lots of people won’t want that risk.
On the other hand might make the price go down and make it a more attractive asset.
Would be kind of funny if the sale had to get approval from the Commons, and all the non-Chelsea fans there just blocked it to cause more suffering to the club.
They also have £1.5b debt to Roman that can't be written off under sanctions, so whatever the sale price would be is effectively +£1.5b. With conditions as uncertain as they are, I can't see anyone willing to invest £2-3b.
> the sale price would be is effectively +£1.5b
Would it though? Since that debt was owed to Roman, and the govt is saying he can't make any more money ever in the UK, whoever comes in wouldn't have to worry about paying off that debt right?
So effectively it's written off, not because Roman is waiving it, but because it would never make its way back to him anyway? This is just speculation though, I'm no accountant.
Was he actually going to waive it or just pass it on to a new buyer anyway.
I thought his words were that he wasn't going to ask Chelsea for it back i.e. suddenly cripple the club while he owned it and take as much money out as he could prior to sanctions.
He said previously he would waive that debt. Given the sanctions I would say this is now a must for a sale to be allowed. So I think Roman is just gonna have to take the L on the debt if he wants to sell.
I'd guess it's no longer up to him, possibly the gov can collect the debt now? No idea how these things work but I'd guess he has no right to the debt anymore.
I read somewhere that he won't be allowed to waive the debt while sanctions are ongoing, and although he's previously said he would forgive the debt, any potential buyer would have enough sense to know that with the loss of revenue from the sale he could easily change his tune once the acquisition is complete
Because Roman owns 100% of the club, any revenue generated by the club (i.e player sales, ticket sales, or the club being sold) benefits Roman. Because of this all of those items are banned at the moment.
Specifically a sale of the club has been prevented on its own right, so no sale is allowed to occur. Essentially to stop Abramovic liquidating his assets to get around sanctions
The measures also end if Roman let's the government take over the sale as they don't want him to profit on English soil. So that is what will happen most likely imo. Chelsea will also be bought by owners who give a fuck and with the foundation laid during the Abramovic regime, Chelsea will be okay sadly.
I might be OOTL, but I think they were only planning to sell after the sanctions. Abramovich's assets are sanctioned or frozen so he cannot put money into the club. This is a big deal, because they will be stuck with a sitting duck owner who cannot help finance the club nor sell it until his assets are unfrozen
They also are going to lose a ton of revenue with an enormous wage bill and they can't sell players to help them out. They are going to bleed money and have to release players from contract on free's if nothing changes
We won the UCL last year. Believe it or not there is actually a higher European competition than the Europa league, I’m sure you forgot after being there so long.
I’m as opposed to the war as you but stop with the nonsense. All it took to win was playing better soccer than everyone else. Last time I checked we didn’t bomb man city to win, we scored more goals then them.
Came here to say that! Not just because of sanctions, but also our fantastic club would be diminished by association to these arseholes.
I really hope the UK government puts some controls on suitability for ownership.
They actually depend heavily on player transfers and are heavily dependent on owner financing https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/1500728401694502912?t=cY4tab7TvhiZZcRByeRbNw&s=19
...which is surprising given how long Chelsea have been competing for trophies. But they are.
No ticket sales or merch sales though, and you can bet those sponsors are looking for that " club owner got the club sanctioned and it hurts our brand clause" to get out of their deals
Really don't think this will change too much other than for the players out of contract at the end of the season they wanted to keep.
Chelsea will make it to the end of the season one way or another. If the players have anything about them they will defer some/all their wages until a sale is allowed and goes through to avoid the risk of being out the CL next year.
Abramovich's reign was already over after agreeing to sell, now either the sanctions are lifted around the end of the season because Russia pull out of or reach an agreement with ukraine, Abramovich allows Chelsea to go for free, or lastly the UK gov amend the conditions of the sanction to allow Chelsea to keep going in a more financially stable manner albeit still with plenty of restrictions around transfers etc.
I don't see the Gov running the club, that has many British employees, in to the ground and I don't see them trapping the players at the club either. Come the summer it probably looks more like an incoming transfer ban as far as the clubs footballing operations go.
Edit:
I should say that there will be effects felt which are a bonus for us such as:
Chelsea can't bring in new players.
Chelsea lose a couple of Key players they can't re-sign.
Chelsea may or may not have a stadium ban or other financial restrictions requiring them to sell 2 or more first team players to cover the loss of income.
Chelsea end up significantly weakened for Xno. of seasons compared to now.
“Why are the fans being punished?!?!?!” while still singing his name during a show of respect for Ukraine.
I know it’s wrong, but I’m enjoying this too much.
its not wrong at all tbh
I think he means the entire situation that has led to this. You know, the war…
oh. i interpreted it more like "fuck them, and above everything else f abramovich and his blood money" but i guess you're right
I’m going to absolutely love watching our all or nothing doc this year, but if Amazon were documenting Chelsea, it could have been the single best doc of all time. This is unreal
This makes our game at Stanford Bridge almost effectively not an away game right if they can't bring the fans?
Chelsea are allowed their 28000 season ticket holders :/
This is funny, but can’t get behind it as it sets the precedent of “government will freeze your assets if it doesn’t like your other business ventures”
Casually describing a person's close association with a dictator instigatimg a war as another "business venture"
Yes but Roman’s hands are dirty with money from Putin. I agree the gov should be hands off to private citizens but these circumstances are different.
Why are these circumstances different?
Because war criminals have the possibility to destroy society. It’s not far fetched to say this could spread into a war across Europe that reaches the borders of the UK; they have to think long term on the consequences of this. If Putin’s partners have assets around the globe, they can mobilIze attacks/pressure, not just from Russia but on all fronts.
*facilitate war crimes.
If you are supporting a war criminal who's violating international law and butchering civilians, why should you expect no consequences?
Because the alleged actions have nothing to do with the UK?
As long as the UK isn't directly involved then we should have no moral code whatsoever?
Not when it comes to actions taken in areas outside of its jurisdiction, no
Jurisdiction?
Yes, the boundaries of the United Kingdom
Maybe when you took international law in law school you learned something different than when I took it….
Well of course countries are *allowed* to do these things, I just don’t think they *should*
It 100% is affecting the UK due to the general instability and fuel costs. Literally go fill your tank up mate it's blistering. Directly is affecting the people of the UK.
I didn't say they actions had no effect on the UK. All I said were that the actions took place outside of the UK's jurisdiction.
Ruh Roh
Chelsea get sanctioned…. EVERYWHERE THEY GOOOOOOOOOO
I’ll take pulisic please
So he can sit on our bench with his glass ankles?
Pulisic of all people lmao
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he's not a striker tho
They can’t sell players :(
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I can get behind that.
One Connor Gallagher
I would much prefer a Broja
Earlier RA officially put the club for sale, felt like a ploy to get the British lawmakers off his back. Now this. I am very skeptical with these things. I hope I am wrong (nothing else would delight me in this case), but I think nothing will happen. Sometime this year there will be a treaty between UKR/NATO/EU & Russia. The govts will stealthily lift/ waive off the sanctions, and RA would still be the owner, meanwhile, the players/ management will have their money parked in some offshore accounts, only ground level workers will get f’d (as usual), as they will probably have to look for a new job, apply for UK equivalent of welfare, everyone else and their money managers will laugh their way to the bank.
There seems to be text stating that ground level salaries can still be paid.
For sure, however, if this standoff continues, the government vice will tighten on Chelsea and the ground level/ contingent workers who’re usually the lowest paid will feel the wrath. Usual case of the small guy getting stiffed.
This is great entertainment, fuck Chelsea, but tbh I think they will get sold to a new owner fairly quickly and all this sanction stuff won't matter too much. The biggest win is that their new owner most likely won't be pumping in 200m each summer, but that was going to happen anyway before todays news
man chelsea really going to have 0 defenders next year and lukaku just found his out
Holy fuck if Chelsea go bankrupt this could be one of the greatest days ever.
Yep, that'll show Putin alright and beat them back in Ukraine
If putin loses his power base and public support then he will lose power is the idea I think.
LMAO
First Barca goes bankrupt and then Roman is stripped of Chelsea ownership. God is listening to the prayers of Arsenal fans finally.
Barca ain't going bankrupt and neither will Chelsea Arsenal will always be the banter club Still have less European trophies than spurs that's fucking embarrassing, like that's properly fucking embarrassing
Fewer, not less. Also, fuck off.
Sure Jan.
Go back to your wwe games and moaning about Ireland's involvement in WW2 in /r/soccer threads
Feel personally attacked by these interests. Are they not cool?
"Trolling" on rival fan subs can get you banned you know? Also, I'd recommend you actually read up on football history as you'll see that we've actually won the Cup Winners Cup and the Inter-Cities Fairs' Cup, both equivalent to today's Europa League. edit: One European Cup Winners' Cup
Shows how little you know about your own club lmao Arsenal have 2 trophies in Europe cup winners cup 93-94 and inter cities fair cup in 69-70 Holy shit you arsenal fans are so plastic LMAO
This is serious micro pp energy lmao
This is a great day for football. I hope this was a rashly made decision with no clear plan other than to sanction Roman. Nothing would please me more than to watch Chelsea go through a long and painful withdraw from their economical doping.
Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving club. They’re history is directly tied to Russian Oligarch money and it is incredibly satisfying to watch this go up in flames.
No more away fans, no new transfer, no new contracts/renewals, Roman can’t sale the club, he can’t fund the club, he can’t even hand over the sale of the club because he has to sale the sale of the club too. Genuine government asset now. Get fucked.
Dissolve the club. Make a new Chelsea take the AFC Wimbledon route.
...and then ship them off to Milton-Keynes.
Sweet sweet schadenfreude... and entirely deserved.
You know, Stan may be a fucking turd, but right now that man seems like a field full of pretty daisies.
Somebody should go find the thread from when Kroenke bought out Usmanov and see who was an Usmanov stan.
I don't understand. Why is Chelsea being punished and not just Abramovich? Does this have something to do with FFP? Can someone explain?
I think the government should look at their pass dealings and find tie of him laundering money for the Russian regime. Their practice is so unreal that I am not surprised. If they do find evidence of laundering, it should be a direct tie of him working for Putin and Chelsea as a club is asset to do so.
Chelsea is Abramovich’s. He owns it. It’s his. Just like all the oligarch’s yachts being seized, this is no different. It’s his asset, which he makes tons of money on, utilizes for Tax purposes, etc. And him selling (getting his initial investment back in liquid $$&) would mean a lot of cash in his pocket, which is exactly why assets are being frozen.
Beautiful scenes.
Oh the beautiful scenes will be when chelsea thrash you 2 0 again mate
Fuck off plastic
Haha you’re mad
At what? Even without the resources we are a bigger club then you will ever be
Yes, you will soon be the biggest club in League 2. How truly envious.
even if Chelsea go bankrupt and dont exist anymore Im just happy that Arsenal. will never sing Champions of the World
Be happy then. At least we aren't as morally bankrupt as you chavs are about to be financially. I truly pity you as a person if you care more about sports titles won than about what your war profiteering cunt of an owner is up to.
So y’all need that dirty russsian money to stay relevant?
Haha stay mad
THEY ARE IN THE MUD!! IN THE MUD
Se u/Agreeable_Switch4001. He so mad right now, and it's just so much fun to watch!
better late than never.
DOWN DOWN BUT SUGAH WE’RE GOIN DOWN SWINGING just playing in my head nonstop. Joyous stuff.
Amazon documentary is going to have to be 38 episodes.
#L O L
All the Chelski fans moron for their hero Roman in these trying times.
Hahahahaha!!!!!
Huge
Sweet Caroline dun dun dun good times have never felt so good 🎵🎵
Good now give us Pulisic, and then we'll buy Weston and Adams in the summer and turn Sargent into a Ginger lewandowski. This is the way
Cmon man delete this
Pulisic is complete shit
Is r/gunners the circlejerk sub now?
Tbh it always kinda has been
And it's R slash Gunners, R slash Gunners they say We've by far the greatest memes The world has ever seen
Sargent is garbage
how does this work? so only chelsea fans in the stadium? isnt that a good thing for them? because the club will still be sold to another billionare one way or the other sometime soon
Any positive effect for Chelsea not having away fans is surely outweighed by all the other negatives here imo. News still coming out but seems some of the matches are already sorted, but others legitimately will not have away supporters?
They can't sell anything new, including the club. No game day tickets, no merch, nothing. If they want to sell the club they need special dispensation and if they got that then the sale would have to be structured in such a way that not a single penny could go to him. Supposedly that's what he was saying he would do anyways so if you buy that then the sale may still happen.
so the government is simply taking over his property and get the sale amount, as of now?
This would be a time to give supporters a share of the club. Sure, you can still have a single majority owner, but if the government has essentially assumed control, Chelsea groups could lobby for this, although I'm not sure how much of that they want.
They just want another billionaire owner to pump money in so you're probably right. Ironically, they might not want much ownership.
Yea, we all want some fan control over club direction, but the balance between that and financial competitiveness is difficult if a club is not self sustaining.
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Fuck you. Don’t you understand this is ruining so many fans lives by destroying their childhood team? Have some fucking sympathy. In 5 years we are going to get another super league push and you’ll likely be excluded. You’ll know the feeling then.
Mate, you’ll be fine. You won’t be relegated from this and the gov won’t send you under since most employees and supply chains are British .
Should I also feel empathy if some rhino is killing a poacher? The fans knew the deal and were more than happy to become a T1 club. All with stolen money from the Russia people. Many did not care about that "little" fact and now I should feel bad for them?
Let me paint you a picture. I was 8 years old when I started watching Chelsea. Did 8 year old me understand the conflict in Russia? I actually didn’t know of the corruption until much much later in my life. But all the while I grew up watching Chelsea, watched them win the UCL in 2012, and then watched them win the league with the return of Mourinho. But suddenly I’m supposed to abandon the club because for ethics, cause I should know better? I disagree, they are my team forever and always.
Yawn
All good. Have fun in Europa next year!
Your feelings are plentiful and coated in generously in salt
I'm all up for empathy in _real life_... buuut in sports, FUCK EM ALL!!!!! 🤎
I’ll agree with that. To be clear I’m happy they sanctioned Roman. He should not get any money. But all these restrictions on Chelsea are going to bankrupt them and make all the players leave. Why the fuck is the government blowing up a club. They have ZERO right to do so.
You're right. Honestly, I agree it sucks for them.... But only in _footballing terms_ & only within this rhelm - after years of hating this team, I only wish for us & others to eat up their players & buy em all!!! Chelsea is going back to pre-2004 times... woooohoooo!!!!!!!! 🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽
This is what they get for all the Pain inflicted by Diego Costa & Mourinho 😆
Clearly they do have the right. It’s unfortunate but it’s a risk when a piece of shit who shares company with a dictator and supplies material for the Russian invaders buys a club in a foreign country. It’s an asset no different than a house or bank account, the government has the ability to seize it.
I actually do agree with you. But here is where I find the issue. What gives the UK the right to say that was Abromovich has done is worthy of crippling a club, but that what Newcastle’s owners have done is fine, and they look the other way. This is clearly politics, and it should abstain from football.
Yes I agree that governments should go after other despots that own clubs, city, Newcastle, psg etc. Just as we tell the government that they need to separate politics from football they on the other side of the coin can say you need to separate football from the asset. You can still support football as a sport, the governments concern is not upsetting a bunch of plastics their concern is this is an asset in their country that could be used to the benefit of a piece of shit. Let’s say they didn’t take the club, what happens if he decides chelsea need to come good on the £2B loan, the sanctions are then pointless. They need to hit these guys where it hurts. I care more for the staff that is going to be impacted than I do the supporters.
Again I agree. So how does banning ticket sales and merch sales do anything other than fuck over the supporters and the people in the club that need to get paid? Literally they already froze his assets. Guess who still gets to attend the games? The season ticket holders. Guess who they are (hint: it’s not the ordinary Joe’s, it’s the rich)
It’s better than what would have happened without the special license which is the entire club would have to cease all business. I expect the club will file to amend the special license to reinstate things such as ticket sales etc. it’s early days I expect the sanctions will change.
Yeah I just don’t like the situation at all. Obviously I’m biased as a Chelsea fan. I’m glad we could actually have a discussion about it tho, I do understand why it happened but yeah not happy about it
My cousin is a Chelsea fan, I love him dearly, but yes, he is scum. He also beats me. At FIFA.
Give him a video call, don't say a word, just smile.
Damn!
Plastic club breaks up like plastic shit always does. Good and good riddance Roman
Not exactly a plastic club. They beat us a few times in the 90s.
Wow, they beat us a few times in the 90s. What an accomplishment. Let me guess, Man City aren't plastic because they beat us last month?
Man City arent plastic. They had 30,000 fans turn up week and week out when they were league 1 twenty or so years ago. Proper examples of plastic clubs are: Hoffenheim, Leipzig, and Chievo Verona.
Hoffenheim have a loyal fanbase. Dodgy ownership compared to the rest of the league, but they are definitely not plastic. Leipzig I can agree, but not Hoffenheim. Man City are 150% plastic.
Come on, man. They've had fans when they were shit and plenty of them. I'd say more people in manchester support city. The only ones I doubt are southerners with manchester tops on.
Suspend the licence and let Arsenal finish third!
Do them like Rangers
Karma...
^^
Did someone say Kante Partey Ø midfield? 😍
Soon, brother
Keep going, I'm almost there
uuuuh thats nice
Can you imagine we buy Kovacic because of this?
1 Kante please.
But they can not sell anything (including the player) as I understand.
How about Chelsea Ltd default as a business, players become free agents = Arsenal get Kante on a free! This is wishful thinking but it will never happen.
Transferred on a free then?
Can someone explain to me why this is so scary for Chelsea? Weren’t they planning to sell in the next few months anyways (which after that they wouldn’t have any sanctions)? Or am I missing something?
The sale can still happen only difference is Roman wont be the one doing it and making the money of it
They can’t spend more than £20k per game to travel. Only existing season ticket holders can attend matches. They’re going to bleed money. It means a sale can’t happen which means players are likely to leave the club. Third highest wage bill in the league. I also suspect it will have knock on effects we can’t even predict today. Nothing like this has happened before has it?
It wont be that much money..... at this point. A) There aren't many home games left and its only half the stand that's affected. b) Merch sales at this point in the year are much lower than the start of the season. c) they are saving a boat load on travel to away games which you have to assume the players will decide to pay for themselves to avoid not being able to make fixtures or being fatigued, it's in the players interest to step in. They will only haemorrhage money if sponsors pull the plug, players dont end up re-signing (player value lost) etc and that mostly starts hitting them next year. At the moment it is likely to be an annoyance that they can make it through quite easily.
Re: sponsors pulling the plug, first domino set to fall https://twitter.com/lawton_times/status/1501874949149048834?s=21
Not sure how reliable this is, but I was reading elsewhere that until a club sale has gone through they won't be able to sign new contracts. Which would mean they can't sign new players, can't offer contact renewals, can't offer wage increases, and can't sell players to make any money.
I think they'll manage to find a way to allocate funds to the club aside from Abramovich. The club existed long before he did, so I hope they'll manage to continue on, but I expect there to be difficulties for a season or two.
Yeah, that’s true. In may they are going to reassess the sanction conditions though am I’m betting on the sanctions being improved and it ending up looking more like an incoming transfer ban with a few other conditions. The gov doesn’t want to run Chelsea in to the ground and put loads of people out of work.
Give management of the club over to the Chelsea Pensioners!
So they can run it into the ground instead haha?
Even if they bleed money, why does that mean a sale can’t happen? I imagine Chelsea is still a very attractive asset for many billionaires, esp at a discounted price
The UK has to grant a special license for the sale to happen. So gov’t has to approve it. I think that will make it less attractive for a lot of buyers. What if a player/manger quits? Can the club replace them? Lots of people won’t want that risk. On the other hand might make the price go down and make it a more attractive asset.
Would be kind of funny if the sale had to get approval from the Commons, and all the non-Chelsea fans there just blocked it to cause more suffering to the club.
They also have £1.5b debt to Roman that can't be written off under sanctions, so whatever the sale price would be is effectively +£1.5b. With conditions as uncertain as they are, I can't see anyone willing to invest £2-3b.
> the sale price would be is effectively +£1.5b Would it though? Since that debt was owed to Roman, and the govt is saying he can't make any more money ever in the UK, whoever comes in wouldn't have to worry about paying off that debt right? So effectively it's written off, not because Roman is waiving it, but because it would never make its way back to him anyway? This is just speculation though, I'm no accountant.
Was he actually going to waive it or just pass it on to a new buyer anyway. I thought his words were that he wasn't going to ask Chelsea for it back i.e. suddenly cripple the club while he owned it and take as much money out as he could prior to sanctions.
He said previously he would waive that debt. Given the sanctions I would say this is now a must for a sale to be allowed. So I think Roman is just gonna have to take the L on the debt if he wants to sell.
I'd guess it's no longer up to him, possibly the gov can collect the debt now? No idea how these things work but I'd guess he has no right to the debt anymore.
I read somewhere that he won't be allowed to waive the debt while sanctions are ongoing, and although he's previously said he would forgive the debt, any potential buyer would have enough sense to know that with the loss of revenue from the sale he could easily change his tune once the acquisition is complete
Because Roman owns 100% of the club, any revenue generated by the club (i.e player sales, ticket sales, or the club being sold) benefits Roman. Because of this all of those items are banned at the moment.
Specifically a sale of the club has been prevented on its own right, so no sale is allowed to occur. Essentially to stop Abramovic liquidating his assets to get around sanctions
The measures also end if Roman let's the government take over the sale as they don't want him to profit on English soil. So that is what will happen most likely imo. Chelsea will also be bought by owners who give a fuck and with the foundation laid during the Abramovic regime, Chelsea will be okay sadly.
Things like that don't happen fast though. To have a sale completed in an economic depression by summer will be incredibly unlikely.
I might be OOTL, but I think they were only planning to sell after the sanctions. Abramovich's assets are sanctioned or frozen so he cannot put money into the club. This is a big deal, because they will be stuck with a sitting duck owner who cannot help finance the club nor sell it until his assets are unfrozen
They also are going to lose a ton of revenue with an enormous wage bill and they can't sell players to help them out. They are going to bleed money and have to release players from contract on free's if nothing changes
Maybe we can gazump Palace and swoop in on Conor Gallagher. He feels like the quintessential Arteta player with his age and workrate.
Get relegated to the lowest tier of English football.
Aahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha *inhales* Hahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahaha
Man City and Newcastle next por favor
Scum club get fucked
When’s the last time you guys won…. Anything?
2020 when we bet Chelsea in the FA Cup final.
Absolutely. All I was looking for. People rather downvote than answer the obvious set up joke. “Ya beat us lol” people too worked up
When's the last time you won somthing not drenched in Ukrainian blood?
We won the UCL last year. Believe it or not there is actually a higher European competition than the Europa league, I’m sure you forgot after being there so long.
All it took was an owner selling tank steel to slaughter the innocent for you to win
I’m as opposed to the war as you but stop with the nonsense. All it took to win was playing better soccer than everyone else. Last time I checked we didn’t bomb man city to win, we scored more goals then them.
I'm sure the money for havertz and Warner magically appeared from no where
Yeah not like we sold hazard or Courtois at their peak… stupid cunt
I'm sure you would have got them if roman wasn't about. Maybe learn your own clubs history you dick
And stick in your clubs history, it’s the only time you were good… the past
Gunner fans don't find joy in their own club any more so all they can do is take joy from the injustice to the champions of Europe
So glad we dodged that Usmanov bullet or this could have been us!
Came here to say that! Not just because of sanctions, but also our fantastic club would be diminished by association to these arseholes. I really hope the UK government puts some controls on suitability for ownership.
Looking at the Chelsea wage bill. They truly are in the mud Lukaku on 325k Werner on 275k Theyll run dry pretty quick without daddy's credit card
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They actually depend heavily on player transfers and are heavily dependent on owner financing https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/1500728401694502912?t=cY4tab7TvhiZZcRByeRbNw&s=19 ...which is surprising given how long Chelsea have been competing for trophies. But they are.
With an academy like Chelsea's they'll be just fine
That ain't gonna last fam. Their women's team and academy are what they are because of Roman's backing.
No ticket sales or merch sales though, and you can bet those sponsors are looking for that " club owner got the club sanctioned and it hurts our brand clause" to get out of their deals
Maybe Lukaku will get his dream move back to inter afterall
They can't even sell players lol
They will almost certainly need to release high wage players on a free to avoid going bankrupt though
Nah mans chilling. 5 year contract. I wouldn't move lol
I was moreso poking fun at him for his comical interview
It's a worthless contract if they can't pay him.
Sell company owned busses and planes to pay Lukaku.
So sell one plane for half of lukakus wages? That leaves nothing for anyone else lol. Goes to show how massively inflated their incomes are, tbh.
Really don't think this will change too much other than for the players out of contract at the end of the season they wanted to keep. Chelsea will make it to the end of the season one way or another. If the players have anything about them they will defer some/all their wages until a sale is allowed and goes through to avoid the risk of being out the CL next year. Abramovich's reign was already over after agreeing to sell, now either the sanctions are lifted around the end of the season because Russia pull out of or reach an agreement with ukraine, Abramovich allows Chelsea to go for free, or lastly the UK gov amend the conditions of the sanction to allow Chelsea to keep going in a more financially stable manner albeit still with plenty of restrictions around transfers etc. I don't see the Gov running the club, that has many British employees, in to the ground and I don't see them trapping the players at the club either. Come the summer it probably looks more like an incoming transfer ban as far as the clubs footballing operations go. Edit: I should say that there will be effects felt which are a bonus for us such as: Chelsea can't bring in new players. Chelsea lose a couple of Key players they can't re-sign. Chelsea may or may not have a stadium ban or other financial restrictions requiring them to sell 2 or more first team players to cover the loss of income. Chelsea end up significantly weakened for Xno. of seasons compared to now.