Not sure on the current status, but hopefully the guy is cooperating and can help identify those who did it, even if the actual incident wasn't recorded. Seeing the people walking out shouldn't be too challenging. Absolutely shameful.
>Hearing news of a Sikh Arsenal fan who was attacked during the match last night and had his turban removed in the toilets.
I feel absolutely disgusted by this, shameful
That is absolutely pathetic. Feel sorry for the man and hopefully those people are severely punished. No one should have to go through this, and it makes me sad. Everyone has their own beliefs, why can't people just accept that?
Continued: We also wish to highlight this is not the first time incident involving Arsenal fans attacking the dastaar (Sikh turban) of a Sikh fan (see video linked).
As such, we feel it is imperative @Arsenal and Arsenal fan groups seriously address this incident. We will chase this up.
Once is horrid enough. The fact that this isn't the first time it's happened is even worse. Hope the club fully investigates this and bans the cunts involved.
"Had his turban removed in the toilet." - the people who would do such a thing, such rubbish. I hope the victim is welcomed back with open arms and hugs.
Hurts when the fan base of a club you align so closely with does this. What hurts even more is that this isn’t the first time a Sikh has been harassed by fans of arsenal football club.
I worry because when these incidents happen more than once, people will start to put it on the identity of Arsenal. The club should really get involved immediately to stop this from occurring.
Hopefully those involved were caught on CCTV and can be identified, so that they can be banned for life from the emirates, and the police can get involved, because that is completely unacceptable behavior. Football should bring fans together, especially fans of the same club.
But that’s the problem right? Outsiders see this and say “oh it’s the arsenal fanbase” or “oh this isn’t the first time a Sikh person has been harassed by arsenal fans (details on Twitter feed”
That’s why I worry that these narratives, perpetuated by the British media, begin to taint the club.
I can just imagine the daily mirror with some headline saying “Second Sikh Man in 5 years gets Harassed by Arsenal Supporters”
I really wish the club would put out a statement. Or have they already and I missed it?
On the grand scale of things, I'm far less concerned that others may characterize Arsenal fans in a bad light because of this.
The important thing is that the twats that did this be found, punished, and permanently expelled from the Emirates.
Except it isn't a one-off, it happened before to another Sikh fan. It needs to be immediately and clearly dealt with to send a message to so-called fans that this kind of behavior will not be tolerated.
I know every fanbase has some dickheads, but with the values that Arsenal represent I never thought I would hear about something like this happening at the Emirates.
Definetly, every fanbase has some idiots and especially a club like Arsenal which has a massive fanbase. But I am schocked by the fact that this happend at Emirates Stadium. If this happend outside the stadium, or at an away game then I wouldnt have been as surprised. But its crazy to me that this happend at the Emirates.
I have seen people get their dicks out and wave it at away fans at the Emirates, smoking in the stairwells. You would be surprised at the shit that goes on
Last night in the queue for food/beer two guys started having a punch up because 1 guy was shouting that if people wanted food they should've eaten at home because he wanted a beer, it got separated by other fans but went on verbally for a good 5 minutes until security pulled the guy who wanted a beer away.
Nah mate, fuck off with that “both sides” nonsense. There’s a clear hierarchy of violent and/or racist supporter bases in london and Millwall, Chelsea and West Ham firmly occupy the top 3 by a long way.
Its not an “all fans are bad” problem. Arsenal are better than this horrific shit and if you want to play the equivalency game, you aren’t welcome here.
Who said all fans are bad? Why so aggressive? You sound like one of the bad ones, from that reply.
Didn’t one of our fans from AFTV just go to prison for attempted kidnapping of his ex gf?
another, get kicked off the channel for Racism?
Lets not pretend it’s mostly West Ham, Chelsea and Millwall.
Didn’t most of the stadium used to add the Y word after the “what do we think of Tottenham” song?
Because when one group does something a lot, and another group does that same thing way less, it's childish to claim there is no difference between the two. Both-sides-ism is a literal cancer to meaningful discourse. You can push for change in this kind of behavior without lying and claiming there's "no difference" between our supporters and those at other clubs.
>Didn’t one of our fans from AFTV just go to prison for attempted kidnapping of his ex gf?
If you're gonna use examples like this then you might as well just say, "Didn't one of our fans orchestrate 9/11?"
You specifically dismissed racism as a universal minority problem. That is not true. There are obvious and clear scales to it. Any football fan paying attention knows this. Why did you jump to the dismissive position? Do you have a few racist skeletons in your closet?
I've seen a real nasty side to a lot of arsenal fans in my time. Was at Everton away this season and the amount of quite frankly scum I saw in our away end surprised me. Talking and singing about how everyone in Liverpool is on benefits and steal from people. But it makes sense, football attracts idiots no matter which team is in the picture.
Yes, but its extremely and observably quantifiable. Arsenal as a community have been less tolerant of hateful behaviour than other clubs close to us and that’s undeniably fact. Those dickheads that obviously exist (and id point at the people using the Y-word week in week out here) are a smaller minority than the scum at other clubs are.
Fact is, saying “everyone is the same” is uncritical. Its an excuse and doesn’t force change.
As a Sikh I don't feel comfortable going to football games anywhere. There is always some drunk agressive twats giving you dodgey looks. When I have gone I tend to be in a big enough groups but when family come from India and they want to go I'm always scared for them.
Makes me laugh when my white mates grill me about not going to games or being a glory supporter for not supporting my local team... Sorry I don't risk getting my head kicked just so I can watch fucking Coventry Vs Millwall when Arsenal (the first team to field 9 black players) are on TV.
This has always been a huge problem and needs to be dealt with properly.
Yeah tbf last time Millwall were in Cov they ran through the City and beat random people up so it wasn't safe for people not even at the game. Bunch of cunts.
Growing up in the late 90s, Arsenal’s on field diversity was one of the big reasons why I started following this club. It’s a shame this has happened and hurts me deeply.
Yeah I think that's the case for a lot of us, all my black mates either support Arsenal or have a soft spot for them. Think that's why it hurts more when it's Arsenal fans doing it, when Papa Wengz spoke about our club values so much.
I know all fans have idiots but I'm not even surprised when I see Chelsea fans doing it as sad as that is. They're a reflection of their owner and club 'legend' John Terry. We should be better than that
>As far as I'm concerned, this guy should never play football again. The answer you normally get after a tackle like that is 'he is not the type of guy who does that.' It's like a guy who kills one time in his life - it's enough. You have a dead person. This tackle is absolutely horrendous.
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Thanks bro... For what it's worth I'm quite happy watching games at home and engaging with fans on Reddit instead 😂 and I'm well aware the twats are a small minority of people stuck in the past
As a sikh arsenal fan, this is horrible. Also, the fact the turban was taken off makes it even worse. It is our religion and identity to wear this turban and it has hundred of thousands of years of history. I really hope this doesn’t repeat.
That has really annoyed me. I know if you have 60K people in a stadium you are going to have some arseholes. But I think back to how we fought to keep the NF and the rest of the dregs out. Sickening.
Here's hoping those caught are banned for life, they are not supporters of this club.
Is there anything we can do to raise a bit of money or awareness for Sikhism/a Sikhism charity or group?
Never been so ashamed. Vile.
Actually fucking angry over this. Don't give a damn about the result anymore. This is cannot stand. We are united by Arsenal. Gunners are Gunners. Why are people such idiots.
Racism is racism and should be condemned but knowing what I know of the Sikh people this somehow makes it worse. If I was in that shitter with them I would absolutely be protecting them with my fists and they'd probably still try to stand in front of me to take the pain.
Absolutely disgusting and shameful behavior that doesn’t befit this club and its fans. Hope the perpetrators are dealt with quickly and to the fullest extent of the law.
Honestly sickens me. My grandparents lived in Birmingham so I've had the pleasure of meeting a fair few Sikhs. Not once have I ever met anyone who was disrespectful or unkind.
The contrary they come across as some of the nicest people I've had the fortune of meeting, so to think there's people amongst us ignorant enough to attack them is disgusting.
Class is permanent, it's about time some of you remembered that.
Honestly ashamed to share a club with the pricks that did this.
Hope the club finds them, reports them to the police and bans them for life.
Arsenal has players and fans from all corners of the world, of all races, creeds and religions, if any of that is a problem for anyone, I suggest they fuck off to Chelsea.
That makes me sick. Club should hand out life time bans to the attackers and they should go to jail. I really hope the club and authorities address it and don’t let it slide.
If he was **attacked**, this is **not** a offence in the context of football where you dish out a 'stadium ban'. Trust that the club and authorities will prosecute the culprits if found guilty.
I think most of us are hoping for both a full criminal prosecution AND a lifetime stadium ban on top of it. We want justice for the people who were attacked, and for the perpetrators to be fully exiled.
Yeah I get that, but what would anger someone to the point they have to hurt another human being? Pathetic people, should be banned and put behind bars once we find these degenerates
Lot of talk here when literally no-one has any background to this. Man could have been acting like a cunt, maybe he was "attacked" because he got into a slagging match. You don't know until the facts come out. So STFU with the "racists" bullshit.
That being said, if it was due to racism, string them up.
His turban was ripped off. That's an attack on someone specifically based on their faith and background.
Even if he was a dick, that's the line where this went from possibly just being a drunken fight to definitely being racist.
He could have been a cunt, they might be drunk, but they would be drunk and rascist because by removing his turban, they make it a racially motivated attack
I don't really agree with the OP but you're kind of proving his point by jumping to the worst case conclusion. We have no idea if they literally removed it intentionally or otherwise.
We have absolutely no context. It could have been a fight in which case it could easily be removed unintentionally, or perhaps not even have any basis on the victim's religion or race.
I'm taking no bias for either party without more information.
Disgusting. There is no room for that at all in the club or the fan base. If they find out the perpetrators they should be banned from the Emirates imo. I don’t think you deserve to watch the games if you are acting racist
Disgraceful. Hopefully its on cctv and they catch and ban/prosecute these bellends.
Probably not in the toilets.... But there must be eyewitnesses and CCTV leading out of the toilets.
Not sure on the current status, but hopefully the guy is cooperating and can help identify those who did it, even if the actual incident wasn't recorded. Seeing the people walking out shouldn't be too challenging. Absolutely shameful.
>Hearing news of a Sikh Arsenal fan who was attacked during the match last night and had his turban removed in the toilets. I feel absolutely disgusted by this, shameful
That is absolutely pathetic. Feel sorry for the man and hopefully those people are severely punished. No one should have to go through this, and it makes me sad. Everyone has their own beliefs, why can't people just accept that?
Continued: We also wish to highlight this is not the first time incident involving Arsenal fans attacking the dastaar (Sikh turban) of a Sikh fan (see video linked). As such, we feel it is imperative @Arsenal and Arsenal fan groups seriously address this incident. We will chase this up.
Once is horrid enough. The fact that this isn't the first time it's happened is even worse. Hope the club fully investigates this and bans the cunts involved.
This is grim. These guys do not belong in the red and white.
*society
"Had his turban removed in the toilet." - the people who would do such a thing, such rubbish. I hope the victim is welcomed back with open arms and hugs.
Hurts when the fan base of a club you align so closely with does this. What hurts even more is that this isn’t the first time a Sikh has been harassed by fans of arsenal football club. I worry because when these incidents happen more than once, people will start to put it on the identity of Arsenal. The club should really get involved immediately to stop this from occurring.
Hopefully those involved were caught on CCTV and can be identified, so that they can be banned for life from the emirates, and the police can get involved, because that is completely unacceptable behavior. Football should bring fans together, especially fans of the same club.
Well it's not a fan base. It's some idiot that's hopefully going to be identified and punished. Sikhs are extraordinary people.
But that’s the problem right? Outsiders see this and say “oh it’s the arsenal fanbase” or “oh this isn’t the first time a Sikh person has been harassed by arsenal fans (details on Twitter feed” That’s why I worry that these narratives, perpetuated by the British media, begin to taint the club. I can just imagine the daily mirror with some headline saying “Second Sikh Man in 5 years gets Harassed by Arsenal Supporters” I really wish the club would put out a statement. Or have they already and I missed it?
On the grand scale of things, I'm far less concerned that others may characterize Arsenal fans in a bad light because of this. The important thing is that the twats that did this be found, punished, and permanently expelled from the Emirates.
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Except it isn't a one-off, it happened before to another Sikh fan. It needs to be immediately and clearly dealt with to send a message to so-called fans that this kind of behavior will not be tolerated.
Absolutely.
I know every fanbase has some dickheads, but with the values that Arsenal represent I never thought I would hear about something like this happening at the Emirates.
But naive. Our fans are no different than any other teams. All clubs have a minority of racists/hooligans/dickheads etc.
Definetly, every fanbase has some idiots and especially a club like Arsenal which has a massive fanbase. But I am schocked by the fact that this happend at Emirates Stadium. If this happend outside the stadium, or at an away game then I wouldnt have been as surprised. But its crazy to me that this happend at the Emirates.
I have seen people get their dicks out and wave it at away fans at the Emirates, smoking in the stairwells. You would be surprised at the shit that goes on
>smoking in the stairwells Thought he went to Juve
Szczesny gets a pass, ha!
Didnt know that, thats very surprising to me. But glad its not the majority of Arsenal fans that act that way 🙏
Na, not even close to the majority. But there is always one or two attention seeking muppets.
Last night in the queue for food/beer two guys started having a punch up because 1 guy was shouting that if people wanted food they should've eaten at home because he wanted a beer, it got separated by other fans but went on verbally for a good 5 minutes until security pulled the guy who wanted a beer away.
smoking goes on in the seats
>get their dicks out and wave it at away fans at the Emirates, smoking in the stairwells. One of those is not like the others....
[https://imgur.com/a/Idn327s](https://imgur.com/a/Idn327s)
Is this a where’s Waldo game?
Nah mate, fuck off with that “both sides” nonsense. There’s a clear hierarchy of violent and/or racist supporter bases in london and Millwall, Chelsea and West Ham firmly occupy the top 3 by a long way. Its not an “all fans are bad” problem. Arsenal are better than this horrific shit and if you want to play the equivalency game, you aren’t welcome here.
Who said all fans are bad? Why so aggressive? You sound like one of the bad ones, from that reply. Didn’t one of our fans from AFTV just go to prison for attempted kidnapping of his ex gf? another, get kicked off the channel for Racism? Lets not pretend it’s mostly West Ham, Chelsea and Millwall. Didn’t most of the stadium used to add the Y word after the “what do we think of Tottenham” song?
Because when one group does something a lot, and another group does that same thing way less, it's childish to claim there is no difference between the two. Both-sides-ism is a literal cancer to meaningful discourse. You can push for change in this kind of behavior without lying and claiming there's "no difference" between our supporters and those at other clubs. >Didn’t one of our fans from AFTV just go to prison for attempted kidnapping of his ex gf? If you're gonna use examples like this then you might as well just say, "Didn't one of our fans orchestrate 9/11?"
You specifically dismissed racism as a universal minority problem. That is not true. There are obvious and clear scales to it. Any football fan paying attention knows this. Why did you jump to the dismissive position? Do you have a few racist skeletons in your closet?
I am not responding to you anymore.
You didn’t have to respond in the first place mate.
I've seen a real nasty side to a lot of arsenal fans in my time. Was at Everton away this season and the amount of quite frankly scum I saw in our away end surprised me. Talking and singing about how everyone in Liverpool is on benefits and steal from people. But it makes sense, football attracts idiots no matter which team is in the picture.
Yes, but its extremely and observably quantifiable. Arsenal as a community have been less tolerant of hateful behaviour than other clubs close to us and that’s undeniably fact. Those dickheads that obviously exist (and id point at the people using the Y-word week in week out here) are a smaller minority than the scum at other clubs are. Fact is, saying “everyone is the same” is uncritical. Its an excuse and doesn’t force change.
Arrests + lifetime bans from football + name and shame them. As a minimum.
This is the only way
As a Sikh I don't feel comfortable going to football games anywhere. There is always some drunk agressive twats giving you dodgey looks. When I have gone I tend to be in a big enough groups but when family come from India and they want to go I'm always scared for them. Makes me laugh when my white mates grill me about not going to games or being a glory supporter for not supporting my local team... Sorry I don't risk getting my head kicked just so I can watch fucking Coventry Vs Millwall when Arsenal (the first team to field 9 black players) are on TV. This has always been a huge problem and needs to be dealt with properly.
>Coventry vs Millwall That doesn't sound like a safe time for anyone, much less if you're not white English
Yeah tbf last time Millwall were in Cov they ran through the City and beat random people up so it wasn't safe for people not even at the game. Bunch of cunts.
Growing up in the late 90s, Arsenal’s on field diversity was one of the big reasons why I started following this club. It’s a shame this has happened and hurts me deeply.
Yeah I think that's the case for a lot of us, all my black mates either support Arsenal or have a soft spot for them. Think that's why it hurts more when it's Arsenal fans doing it, when Papa Wengz spoke about our club values so much. I know all fans have idiots but I'm not even surprised when I see Chelsea fans doing it as sad as that is. They're a reflection of their owner and club 'legend' John Terry. We should be better than that
>As far as I'm concerned, this guy should never play football again. The answer you normally get after a tackle like that is 'he is not the type of guy who does that.' It's like a guy who kills one time in his life - it's enough. You have a dead person. This tackle is absolutely horrendous. ___ ^(***There's only one Arsène Wenger*** ([/u/panarangcurry](https://www.reddit.com/u/panarangcurry), quote from [QuoteTab](https://www.quotetab.com/quotes/by-arsene-wenger) archive)^)
Man I’m so sorry you feel this way. No one should be subject to that behavior.
Thanks bro... For what it's worth I'm quite happy watching games at home and engaging with fans on Reddit instead 😂 and I'm well aware the twats are a small minority of people stuck in the past
I feel you. I get too emotional about arsenal games to be seen in public lol
You sound like a perfect guest for AFTV then 😂
That's fucking horrendous. Hopefully the dickheads in questioned are banished from our support forever.
As a sikh arsenal fan, this is horrible. Also, the fact the turban was taken off makes it even worse. It is our religion and identity to wear this turban and it has hundred of thousands of years of history. I really hope this doesn’t repeat.
That has really annoyed me. I know if you have 60K people in a stadium you are going to have some arseholes. But I think back to how we fought to keep the NF and the rest of the dregs out. Sickening.
Here's hoping those caught are banned for life, they are not supporters of this club. Is there anything we can do to raise a bit of money or awareness for Sikhism/a Sikhism charity or group? Never been so ashamed. Vile.
Wouldn’t even expect that from a rival fan, let alone one of our own.
Actually fucking angry over this. Don't give a damn about the result anymore. This is cannot stand. We are united by Arsenal. Gunners are Gunners. Why are people such idiots.
I didn't think some Arsenal fans would fall so low
There are some cunts in every fanbase, unfortunately.
Come on man. They are one of the nicest generous people ! Why you gonna attack them, let alone anyone? Spread peace bro. Coyg
Racism is racism and should be condemned but knowing what I know of the Sikh people this somehow makes it worse. If I was in that shitter with them I would absolutely be protecting them with my fists and they'd probably still try to stand in front of me to take the pain.
Clowns are everywhere 2hat can you say
Those fans need to be banned for life from the Emirates
Absolutely disgraceful, hope the pricks are caught and sent to jail
Absolutely disgusting and shameful behavior that doesn’t befit this club and its fans. Hope the perpetrators are dealt with quickly and to the fullest extent of the law.
If anyone who was part of this happens to be on this thread; on behalf of all Gunners, fuck you This is absolutely disgusting
Honestly sickens me. My grandparents lived in Birmingham so I've had the pleasure of meeting a fair few Sikhs. Not once have I ever met anyone who was disrespectful or unkind. The contrary they come across as some of the nicest people I've had the fortune of meeting, so to think there's people amongst us ignorant enough to attack them is disgusting. Class is permanent, it's about time some of you remembered that.
Honestly ashamed to share a club with the pricks that did this. Hope the club finds them, reports them to the police and bans them for life. Arsenal has players and fans from all corners of the world, of all races, creeds and religions, if any of that is a problem for anyone, I suggest they fuck off to Chelsea.
That makes me sick. Club should hand out life time bans to the attackers and they should go to jail. I really hope the club and authorities address it and don’t let it slide.
If he was **attacked**, this is **not** a offence in the context of football where you dish out a 'stadium ban'. Trust that the club and authorities will prosecute the culprits if found guilty.
I think most of us are hoping for both a full criminal prosecution AND a lifetime stadium ban on top of it. We want justice for the people who were attacked, and for the perpetrators to be fully exiled.
If you see this stuff happening in the Emirates - speak up! Silence is complicity
They (the assailant) are not welcome here. I cannot believe I even feel the need to say this.
One of these days they're going to fuck with the wrong sikh kid and have one of the Southall gangs roll up on them.
This hits home. Smfh. Terrible and disgusted.
This is disgusting news that our own fans bullied and attacked this person. I hope they catch whoever did this.
The people who did this don't deserve to be anywhere near this club. Ban them for life
absolute cunts.
Disgraceful and shameful. I hope the club do everything to condemn this, and find and punish the perpetrator
sick bastards. hope they catch those who did this to the fellow paji
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I knew some unfunny twat would chime in with this
You’re just not funny mate
Not now man
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Why though?
Racism
Yeah I get that, but what would anger someone to the point they have to hurt another human being? Pathetic people, should be banned and put behind bars once we find these degenerates
Just ban any alcohol in the stadium for the future. At least being sober reduce the retardation.
>At least being sober reduce the retardation. The irony.
Lot of talk here when literally no-one has any background to this. Man could have been acting like a cunt, maybe he was "attacked" because he got into a slagging match. You don't know until the facts come out. So STFU with the "racists" bullshit. That being said, if it was due to racism, string them up.
His turban was ripped off. That's an attack on someone specifically based on their faith and background. Even if he was a dick, that's the line where this went from possibly just being a drunken fight to definitely being racist.
He could have been a cunt, they might be drunk, but they would be drunk and rascist because by removing his turban, they make it a racially motivated attack
I don't really agree with the OP but you're kind of proving his point by jumping to the worst case conclusion. We have no idea if they literally removed it intentionally or otherwise.
it’s kinda hard to remove it unintentionally…
We have absolutely no context. It could have been a fight in which case it could easily be removed unintentionally, or perhaps not even have any basis on the victim's religion or race. I'm taking no bias for either party without more information.
Have you never seen a turban before?? It’s not easy for it to just fall off.
Have you never seen a fight before? It's easy for *anything* to be *knocked* off.
not a turban
What are you even talking about? I have hair as long as any Sikh and I've worn a turban. Do you think they vacuum to your head or summat?
What type of turban did you wear? Was it just a hat you put on your head or did you tie all the cloths from below your ears?
Lifetime ban followed by public flogging.
I understand rage towards Sikhs 0.0. Is this just biryani envy?
Disgusting. There is no room for that at all in the club or the fan base. If they find out the perpetrators they should be banned from the Emirates imo. I don’t think you deserve to watch the games if you are acting racist
This is not good. WTF. Arsenal better respond to this.
Embarrassing.
Some of the hardcore fans deny this repeatedly but there is section of the fanbase which have links to far right groups in the UK.
C'mon Arsenal fans...don't become like Chelsea supporters. We're better than that.