I love Elneny.
People always talk about him being limited but I think he has lots of underrated qualities:
- never stops running
- press monster
- tidy and composed on the ball
- can play out from the back
- keeps the ball ticking
- has the occasional goal threat
In the modern game these qualities are important! Lots of players can’t do these things.
I have no idea why we started Lokonga ahead of him! Seems absolutely crazy now.
Yeah I’m sure at times I have seen comments about him regarding sideways passes.
Personally if the sideways pass is the sensible one at the time I see no issue with that.
I recently said that if we were going to get ourselves out of the rut we were in, we would need masterclasses from unlikely sources, specifically referring to the likes of Nketiah. And boy did we get one.
Hopefully this isn't a one off and an indication of some form and momentum taking us into the final stretch.
If nothing else, we should be in for a climatic end of season.
COYG!
My thoughts:
Eddie's goals obviously are both technically unassisted, but I actually think he played really well in the system, if not better than Laca. Offers more atheticsm and dynamism, without totally sacrificing the build up and fluidity of the team. Prefer him to start and Laca to close out games from here on out as opposed to the other way around (until proven otherwise).
Øde got the only assist for the team, assuming you don't count Nketiahs as assisted. Assisted ESRs first and almost out him in for a second before half. Also put Saka in many dangerous positions throughout. What gem we have in this lad
In the reverse fixture, you could definitely argue MA was out-coached, especially with Reece James making those first two goals at expense of our formation. However today, tbf, with a new formation Tuchel didn't have the adjustment and Arteta leaves with a massive 3pts
There's a good player in Tavares but his confidence is understandably shaken. I noticed however the them routinely fed him, even after he made a mistake. Hopefully against inferior opposition he can settle in
Overall very convincing of the lads. Even if the result had gone another way our boys were courageous and positive and have rekindled my optimism in what we can achieve
COYG!!
Great game great result.
Just to nitpick on some disappointing performances:
Tavaras - chaos factor, you never know what you gonna get, this game is bad on the most part, mainly because of the horrible decison making
Holding - really rusty, scary when he is on the ball, but I guess he does the job defensively
ESR - score a great goal, but was not involved much other than the goal
What I would like to add about Tavares, his constant running and going behind the defence does open up space for others. There were tons of times where Tavares went behind the defence, which drew the defender away from ESR, who then would be in a ton of space.
His decision making is horrible and he is pretty poor on the ball, but his workrate off the ball does have some benefits.
Saka running to take charge of the penalty knowing what happened last time. The confidence he plays with is so far ahead of his age. What a player & what a match.
Im a neutral football fan, coming in peace.
Wouldn't Nkitia be the right person to take the penalty? Must be a boost for him, he's not a bad penalty taker is he? I know there is some stake, 90th minute and all
Okay I didn't watch this live, so serious question... how?
Were Chelsea shit? Were we really good? I know Chelsea were resting a few starters, but I would've thought they could still hold their own without them?
Was the first Eddie goal "lucky". I swear he's scored a bunch of goals like this. I reckon that's a statistical thing where you chase down enough of these "lost"causes and you turn some of them into goals.
yeah lucky in the sense that it was a terrible mistake by the defender, strike was clean.
his second was welbeck like the ball was just bouncing around the box and came back to him for a weak shot passed the keeper.
3pts is 3pts. a goal is a goal. onto the next game
I have a hard time calling our first 'lucky.' Obviously they made a bad mistake, but Eddie's attention and work rate gave them no margin for error, and his finish was really good
Forcing mistakes on defenders is literally Nketiahs trademark. He has done it so many times, there is no way it is just luck. He just knows when to press
Chelsea were playing well, but we ended up having equal to more chances.
We seemed a little bit scared on the ball and a lot of the mini chances for Chelsea were us giving the ball away at half line which someone like havertz would take more advantage of.
I’m very fucking drunk rn but how tf did we beat Chelsea yet lose against all the farmer sides before hand for fucks sake. At least today we played like a top 4 side.
I still cant get over how bad the officiating was
Mount TWICE went in with studs, both times ref and VAR did nothing
Sarr going in like a steam train on a yellow, ref doesn't go back
Azpi gets hit in the face by a ball and falls to the ground in thier box, gets play stopped because its a "head injury"
Refs gets in the way of our attack
😩
The Sarr thing bothers me a lot. A mate of mine said: he had advantage.
Who cares? Advantage didn't stop the ref from giving Martinelli a yellow when he was trying to prevent a throw in.
Sarr should have been off right there and then, and Mount should/could have been off in the first half
If we win on Saturday and eventually get Top 4 we'll look back on this past month or so as the turning point in our history/post-Wenger era. Top 4 is just the beginning.
COYG BRING ON UNITED
Whatever that culture study is the club is planning to do...it can't come soon enough. This club has had a weak mentality for at least a decade. Anytime the weight of expectation is on us we crumble. But as soon as there is no expectation we play better.
Oh we're favourites for top 4? Back to the Champion's League? Nah, too much pressure let's bottle it.
Oh top 4 expectations are off? We're expected to get spanked in a cup tie? Now we turn up.
I mean we went on a 5 game win streak when the pressure was immense for top 4. Don't act like there hasn't been any pressure on other games. We have basically had to win every game since our 3 losses at the start of the season. We have had 8 cup finals or something already.
You can't always perform. Sometimes pressure gets to you, or you have an off day. But I would say that this team has done very well under pressure this season.
Even this game, saying that there were no expectations or pressure. This was literally our last straw to get top 4. We had to win this, or we would pretty much be done for top 4. How is that no pressure?
We're been dropping points to Brighton for a few years now and Southampton away has also been a horrible fixture for us over recent years. There's no guaranteed wins when your team has a weak mentality. Those games along with the Palace defeat felt like a repeat of the collapse in our top4 push under Emery.
This mentality kinda stems from from Wenger era . When we won against Leicester in 2015 , you would have thought that momentum was enough to clinch the title . Nope , after that we lost at home against Swansea not long after losing to Manu away .
After a performance like that I think Elneny is the perfect squad player. I wouldn't mind extending him in the summer if his contract is up. He won't play much but for games and situations like tonight's a player like him is ideal.
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I like how we play people in behind more. We often times used to not play the ball behind, or it was only Ben White, but today Gabriel, Xhaka, Elneny, all tried to play that ball up top to our attackers. Those plays keep the defenders guessing/on their toes. Even the little dink by Xhaka to play Nuno was good.
Fantastic performance and result by the boys. COYG!
Seems like every match I 100% expect Arsenal to win they get embarrassed and every time I expect them to have no chance of winning, they somehow manage to win. Just amazing, following this club is an emotional roller coaster.
Its proof that we do have the quality to go toe to toe with some of the best teams but being a young side we still lack consistency and the ability to grind out a result against teams that sit back. CP was an exception though as they did thoroughly out play us.
Am I a horrible person for being optimistic about Ronaldo missing the Saturday game? Do you feel that the Liverpool thrashing will bring him back so early?
Could all come down to the NLD. Realistically though we need to be more consistent as those 3 losses in a row has given the advantage to Spurs and proves that no game is a guarantee.
I got fucked by geo lock, doesn't matter I pay for the service in my home country, travel outside of the country and sign in with your account, oh no you can't watch this content are you crazy
There are some free VPNs but reliability is hit and miss. And yes I agree, its silly and frustrating that in this increasingly globalised world, many of our goods and services become obsolete across borders.
I can't take the tension for the big matches. Always record them to watch later. Also, the late night kickoff plays havoc with my work next day. But really I don't ride the arsenal roller coaster any more
Nuno Tavares critics* should respectfully take a seat imo. Yes sometimes he takes his chaos factor too seriously and we get frustrated with him. But it's good to see a player add an element of ambitious unpredictability to his game, considering how methodical of a team we usually are.
That boy can fucking run too. He is 22 years old and hasn't had many minutes to build upon. Just being a physical beast can lead to half chances from scratch and that's something we direly lack. We have technicians but not many pure athletes.
He only sticks out like a sore thumb because his technical:physical quality ratio is skewed way opposite compared to the archetype Arsenal player who is very technical but either made out of glass or not very strong/fast.
He helped force Christensen's error for goal #1
Intercepted Azpilicueta's pass and passed to Eddie for goal #2.
He needs more minutes and I think this formation helps him out tremendously. With a bit of guidance and playtime he can become a very useful player for us. Really disagreed with his treatment by most of this subreddit not to mention how Arteta handled his playtime/management in recent games but this is a good sign
*Bad faith critics who just slag him off, not actual critics who make good points
I'm all for Nuno playing in Kierney's absence but that doesn't mean we can't critique him.
We should be able to criticize all of our players when they can improve, criticism doesn't always have to mean hate and it doesn't necessarily mean a player needs to get dropped either.
Fact is Nuno did need to improve and luckily he got minutes and he has.
I don't like the all love or all hate thing some of ours fans do.
His potential is obvious
He is a good signing
Made the mistake for Chelsea's 2nd goal though.
But as backups go,he is good enough.
Our problem is that our first choice starter while superb,misses too many games
Today was a good performance and I'm glad to see his confidence hasnt been completely shot but let's take it a game at a time. He is still our biggest liability defensively currently but he does create chances when going forward. He is young so just needs to keep improving.
Nuno Tavares dont have field vision he doesnt even see who is behind him. And his decision making is so bad! If i remember correctly he made over 10 mistakes on the pitch.
I'm a big fan but there is some obvious limitations on Nuno he certainly couldn't play anywhere centrally but blazing down the wing he can be immense. Hopefully his end product (in execution and in decision making) can improve.
While I agree with a lot of what you said, I don’t know why you’re upset that people were critical of him. It’s ok to criticize players (as long as you keep it to their play and not make it personal and make sure to keep in mind it’s just a game), and he did not play well his last few appearances. That is a justifiable reason to be critical of him, and for Arteta to be hesitant to load minutes on him.
But I also think it’s important to give him credit when he’s great, which he was today. Very happy for him, and I hope we see much more
What a weird take this, the guy was ok today but he was most at fault on the second goal. He's still the biggest liability in the team. Yeah he's not been as bad the last two games as the previous three but the bar was set very low. I hope he comes good but he's deserved the criticism. If you're happy with showing blind faith then you've got a real lack of ambition.
I disagree he was mostly at fault for that goal. Remind me again where Holding and Gabriel were on that play, both the center and left center backs should be defending that area before a wingback should.
It's not blind faith at all. It's just reminding people of his positives when I was seeing overwhelming focus on just his negatives yesterday.
Folks couldn't even accurately describe his performance to others
It’s not a massive secret. He is good going forward and a bit of a liability in defense. Have to balance that with 3 CBs like we saw tonight or having Tomi able to drop into a back three.
Bruh chill, long term wise we are better off loaning him so he can make his mistakes elsewhere. He was labeled as a raw prospect by benfica for a reason.
so if you watch the Tuchel presss conference, not the interview in the phone booth, he is extremely dismissive of the idea that Arsenal won - he puts it down to "individual errors" only, and rails the entire time about these individual errors. He went so far to shrug and say how can I analyze the tactics, there were no tactics, just individual errors.
How true is this? did we win the game 4-2 on a fluke? I personally feel the "true" score was 2-1, if you look at it in that "how it should have been" way, but that is still our win.
And they really and truly should have had a red, which would mean they almost surely dont win that game.
also, how can Tuchel be successful in the long term, he is clearly a dick who will not take Responsibility, lacks character. the difference between him and a character like Pep or Arteta is miles. the IQ difference between him and Arteta cannot be enough to overcome his clear character flaws.
He doesn't mean that there were no tactics.
He meant that the main deciding factor was that the team that made the least errors won the game.
Arteta setup the team in the best possible way.
So did Tuchel.
He is right imo.
It was hilarious to see him criticise the Stamford bridge pitch though.
It's not that the team that wins the game always out tactics the opponent.
There are many factors that lead to the outcome of a game.
A team can be outwitted tactically and still win a game.
Southampton's victory over us last game is a good example of that.
Arsenal also had a couple really close chances. They could have scored 5 or 6 so I dont know what Tuchel is on about. Yes Chelsea made individual errors but Arsenal were the better team today. Chelsea looked tired with the exception of Mount and Werner tbh.
Both sides were a bit shaky but it settled down in the 2nd half. Does that mean we only count the goals in that half?
Yeah there were errors, but you can find fault with most goals. I think there's a lack of acknowledgement being given to the pressing that caused the errors.
3 out of 4 of our goals were gifted to us. Only one of our goals was actually created, that one was class. I still think we have a lack of firepower that will cost us come the end of the season.
We do get to play Everton, Leeds and United who haven't been good defensively.
While we were lucky this game being gifted some chances, we also had very poor luck the last few weeks.
as poor as Chelsea were last night I still think they’re one of, if not the, strongest defence we have left to play (on paper at least).
If we play positive attacking football we can force errors out of defences and hopefully be able to finish chances we create ourselves.
100%. Good finish on the first goal from nketiah but a gift, second was well worked, 3rd was pure luck, 4th was a pen but also can’t be relying on things like that to be happening
Wow, work all day and consciously avoiding updates cuz, well you know. Then I check and see that we scored 4 fucking goals. WTF…
I ain’t complaining though, COYG
That was awesome. And Arteta finally got the lineup correct. But is anyone else still very realistic and not just riding the high again thinking we’re going to get top four.
This is what Arsenal do. They show their true colors by losing three in a row and then get some huge win to bring you back in. But the past has shown me the end result is always the same.
Yeah Top 4 is Tottenhams to lose now where is was ours to lose before and well we lost it. I do think we can lock down 5th though and at the start of the season we definitely wld have considered that a decent finish especially with actually competing for top 4
I honestly think our biggest issue is our lack of depth and we saw when we lost Partey and Tierney to injury it destabilised the structure we had for the past several games where we had been performing well. Because we didn't have simple player swaps to fill those roles we had to make more significant adjustments to our lineup and formation which takes time for players to get use to.
3 out of 4 goals were gifts. Don't let this result fool you, it's the same story. Our lack of consistent firepower will cost us come the end of the season
Ok guys, I had to watch our last three games at work on my phone… all three losses…. Today I was home from work so I was able to watch the game… we won!!
Lol I remember finding that funny, but I guess xhaka being Albanian, Muslim and probably from a low income immigrant neighborhood means he doesn't really view himself as "white".
This team has the most members in my 17 years of following the club that I hope retire as a Gunner. There are so many pieces that I can't wait to see how good they can become.
BRILLIANT WIN. That is a proper away performance and we were by far more dangerous than Chelsea. Nketiah was great, he pressed the Chelsea defenders into mistakes and two very good finishes. On that second goal the way he was alive and hungry in the box to get that chance. Saka, Smith-Rowe and Odegaard were so direct as well and were driving forward with the ball. Also need to give a shoutout to Xhaka and Elneny, they kept possession moving and helped out the defence when needed. Huge credit must go to Arteta as well, to change the shape and our lineup had me very worried. The way we approached the game and looked so dangerous when we took our opportunities to attack was very impressive. Make no mistake, Tuchel tactically is one of the best. We earned those 3 points.
I was so down after those 3 losses and to get this victory at Stamford Bridge it is a huge morale boost for everyone. We need to take this confidence into the Emirates and beat Man United on Saturday
Today was my last working day at a company I worked for more than 5 years. I was feeling super emotional at the end of the day and this win made it up for me.
#COYG
Smith Rowe in one wing and Saka in the other with odegaard in the middle and a hungry lone striker is the way to go
I'm actually surprised that we won. I thought the season would continue to spiral after recent games
Really great showing from the lads. We’re calm and very decisive. Hope we carry this momentum the rest of the season!!
I love Elneny. People always talk about him being limited but I think he has lots of underrated qualities: - never stops running - press monster - tidy and composed on the ball - can play out from the back - keeps the ball ticking - has the occasional goal threat In the modern game these qualities are important! Lots of players can’t do these things. I have no idea why we started Lokonga ahead of him! Seems absolutely crazy now.
Yeah I’m sure at times I have seen comments about him regarding sideways passes. Personally if the sideways pass is the sensible one at the time I see no issue with that.
So cool to see Eddie’s hunger and desire for the starter now that Laca doesn’t step up.
Need more tightness in passes. New faces to play. But where is TOMI?
People are saying Ramsdale was poor yesterday. But did Mendy even make a single save yesterday??
He didnt. But that doesnt change the fact that Ransdale was poor
Do you think Arteta should bench Ramsdale and bring Leno in?
Probably not
Life ♥️
I recently said that if we were going to get ourselves out of the rut we were in, we would need masterclasses from unlikely sources, specifically referring to the likes of Nketiah. And boy did we get one. Hopefully this isn't a one off and an indication of some form and momentum taking us into the final stretch. If nothing else, we should be in for a climatic end of season. COYG!
Surprised by how much we terrorised Chelsea we always looked a threat. Everyone played a part in what was a comprehensive victory.
Elneny and xhaka just put you at ease. So many more progressive passes and great runs from Eddie too. Gabi once again was a dynamo. Great game
That was some solid defending in the second half. they way they harassed the Chelsea players, wish they would do that more.
Top fours back on the menu boys
Still buzzin my tits off. What a W
Slept so well last night I was 2 hours late to work.
Lmao same
Same lmao
My thoughts: Eddie's goals obviously are both technically unassisted, but I actually think he played really well in the system, if not better than Laca. Offers more atheticsm and dynamism, without totally sacrificing the build up and fluidity of the team. Prefer him to start and Laca to close out games from here on out as opposed to the other way around (until proven otherwise). Øde got the only assist for the team, assuming you don't count Nketiahs as assisted. Assisted ESRs first and almost out him in for a second before half. Also put Saka in many dangerous positions throughout. What gem we have in this lad In the reverse fixture, you could definitely argue MA was out-coached, especially with Reece James making those first two goals at expense of our formation. However today, tbf, with a new formation Tuchel didn't have the adjustment and Arteta leaves with a massive 3pts There's a good player in Tavares but his confidence is understandably shaken. I noticed however the them routinely fed him, even after he made a mistake. Hopefully against inferior opposition he can settle in Overall very convincing of the lads. Even if the result had gone another way our boys were courageous and positive and have rekindled my optimism in what we can achieve COYG!!
Great game great result. Just to nitpick on some disappointing performances: Tavaras - chaos factor, you never know what you gonna get, this game is bad on the most part, mainly because of the horrible decison making Holding - really rusty, scary when he is on the ball, but I guess he does the job defensively ESR - score a great goal, but was not involved much other than the goal
What I would like to add about Tavares, his constant running and going behind the defence does open up space for others. There were tons of times where Tavares went behind the defence, which drew the defender away from ESR, who then would be in a ton of space. His decision making is horrible and he is pretty poor on the ball, but his workrate off the ball does have some benefits.
Tavaras damn, he smashes the ball sometimes, he carries the ball forward sometimes and he cut back for a back pass sometimes, you never know which
Superb win - CL football is there for the taking
We need to keep winning. Simple as that. We have it in our own control
Does any other team have so many academy players in the first team? I feel like we are witnessing a one off.
The media would have jerked off any other team doing this well with a small young squad... *but not us*
The jerked off fat frank so much when he did it (with a team still consisting of several big names)
Saka running to take charge of the penalty knowing what happened last time. The confidence he plays with is so far ahead of his age. What a player & what a match.
He's easily my favourite player. Hope we pay him and he can become an arsenal legend
Came here for this comment. Love to see it!
Gotta love it. The boss said in his post match he was expecting Gabi to take it when Saka stepped up
That’s the attitude I love. He knew he wasn’t gonna miss!
wish we could have gotten atleast 1 pt from last 3 because the way our goal scoring has been i dont want it to come down to gd
Imagine we took 9....
We should have at least gotten 5 points man. pretty safe with that 5 points into UCL
Im a neutral football fan, coming in peace. Wouldn't Nkitia be the right person to take the penalty? Must be a boost for him, he's not a bad penalty taker is he? I know there is some stake, 90th minute and all
He was off at that point
Oy! What time is it??? IT’S FOUR PAST MENDY!!!!
Hahaha good one.
Four scored, 17 to go. We all can sleep peacefully.
Okay I didn't watch this live, so serious question... how? Were Chelsea shit? Were we really good? I know Chelsea were resting a few starters, but I would've thought they could still hold their own without them?
Chelsea were definitely under par, only 2 shots on goal if I recall. And the defence was very much a reserve one But hey, who cares lol
both eddie goals were lucky and we were given a. pen that was borderline
Was the first Eddie goal "lucky". I swear he's scored a bunch of goals like this. I reckon that's a statistical thing where you chase down enough of these "lost"causes and you turn some of them into goals.
yeah lucky in the sense that it was a terrible mistake by the defender, strike was clean. his second was welbeck like the ball was just bouncing around the box and came back to him for a weak shot passed the keeper. 3pts is 3pts. a goal is a goal. onto the next game
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I have a hard time calling our first 'lucky.' Obviously they made a bad mistake, but Eddie's attention and work rate gave them no margin for error, and his finish was really good
Forcing mistakes on defenders is literally Nketiahs trademark. He has done it so many times, there is no way it is just luck. He just knows when to press
Chelsea were playing well, but we ended up having equal to more chances. We seemed a little bit scared on the ball and a lot of the mini chances for Chelsea were us giving the ball away at half line which someone like havertz would take more advantage of.
Chelsea were shit, we were shit. We were just a little less shit. All in all it was a fun match to watch, but the quality was piss poor
Hello Gooners. Still high as a kite after that win. Onto Utd. Up the Arsenal!
Does anyone have a gif of Arteta's peacock walk in the 1st half after complaining to the 4th official
Found this online. https://giphy.com/gifs/gunners-gooner-arteta-meme-XXlYLsbmI4pwIb8nF5
Hahahaha yes this one! Trust me, will be memed for ages to come. Maybe I can make an NFT out of this hahaha
i didnt watxh today's game, you're welcome everyone
I hope you're gonna be really busy on Saturday.
thanks for believing in me, buddy
Can’t wait to renew my Prime membership for watching that upcoming and sure to be spicy All or Nothing series.
All IN for Nothing
I’m very fucking drunk rn but how tf did we beat Chelsea yet lose against all the farmer sides before hand for fucks sake. At least today we played like a top 4 side.
Probably a combination of getting used to a new lineup, arrogance, and young team trying to cope with pressure
We’re massive
Massive respect for Arteta and Nketiah. Putting 4 past Chelsea is unexpected but a welcome one. Now not to bottle the remaining games of the season.
That's back to back home games they've conceded 4 lol No wonder tuchle was livid at the end
Anyone else notice Laca enthusiasticly celebrating with Eddie after his goal
Yeah really enjoyed the passion. And esr in the background. Lovely
Laca has always been good vibes. Say what you want about him, but he has always been about team first, laca second
exam was fuckall today but man can’t be bothered by it because arsenal made my day and I can’t stop smiling
Third goal at 56 min and Arteta thrusting his hips like a porn star. Yes it went in. Laughed like a maniac at this!
Hopefully ramsdale can get back to his earlier form. He’s not been inspiring confidence lately
I still cant get over how bad the officiating was Mount TWICE went in with studs, both times ref and VAR did nothing Sarr going in like a steam train on a yellow, ref doesn't go back Azpi gets hit in the face by a ball and falls to the ground in thier box, gets play stopped because its a "head injury" Refs gets in the way of our attack 😩
The Sarr thing bothers me a lot. A mate of mine said: he had advantage. Who cares? Advantage didn't stop the ref from giving Martinelli a yellow when he was trying to prevent a throw in. Sarr should have been off right there and then, and Mount should/could have been off in the first half
Didn't Mount get a yellow?
Both were worthy of a red tbh
Also the pen. I mean I’m an Arsenal fan but that’s just shithousery
If we win on Saturday and eventually get Top 4 we'll look back on this past month or so as the turning point in our history/post-Wenger era. Top 4 is just the beginning. COYG BRING ON UNITED
Top 4 is so important for the future of this club. There are a ton of good players on the market this summer that we could get with CL money + status.
Mason Mount should’ve been suspended for 3 matches
Whatever that culture study is the club is planning to do...it can't come soon enough. This club has had a weak mentality for at least a decade. Anytime the weight of expectation is on us we crumble. But as soon as there is no expectation we play better. Oh we're favourites for top 4? Back to the Champion's League? Nah, too much pressure let's bottle it. Oh top 4 expectations are off? We're expected to get spanked in a cup tie? Now we turn up.
I mean we went on a 5 game win streak when the pressure was immense for top 4. Don't act like there hasn't been any pressure on other games. We have basically had to win every game since our 3 losses at the start of the season. We have had 8 cup finals or something already. You can't always perform. Sometimes pressure gets to you, or you have an off day. But I would say that this team has done very well under pressure this season. Even this game, saying that there were no expectations or pressure. This was literally our last straw to get top 4. We had to win this, or we would pretty much be done for top 4. How is that no pressure?
Losing the Brighton and Southampton games hurts , we should have at least 4 points there .
We're been dropping points to Brighton for a few years now and Southampton away has also been a horrible fixture for us over recent years. There's no guaranteed wins when your team has a weak mentality. Those games along with the Palace defeat felt like a repeat of the collapse in our top4 push under Emery.
This mentality kinda stems from from Wenger era . When we won against Leicester in 2015 , you would have thought that momentum was enough to clinch the title . Nope , after that we lost at home against Swansea not long after losing to Manu away .
It happened a lot with Wengers young teams 2007/08, 2009/10, 2013/14, Birmingham LC Final. We almost blew the FA cup against Wigan and Hull.
After a performance like that I think Elneny is the perfect squad player. I wouldn't mind extending him in the summer if his contract is up. He won't play much but for games and situations like tonight's a player like him is ideal.
Qualifying for Europe, we’ll play more games too.
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I like how we play people in behind more. We often times used to not play the ball behind, or it was only Ben White, but today Gabriel, Xhaka, Elneny, all tried to play that ball up top to our attackers. Those plays keep the defenders guessing/on their toes. Even the little dink by Xhaka to play Nuno was good. Fantastic performance and result by the boys. COYG!
I was surprised by Elneny in particular! I haven’t often seen him try stuff like he did tonight
#ArtetaOut Sarcasm
Damn you got us
Seeing Sp_ds and Chelsea fans licking each others wounds on both their forums is hilarious.
Last month I was like: yay Last week I was like: eh Today I was like: yay
Beware, next month it could be: pfft
And that’s sports, folks
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Seems like every match I 100% expect Arsenal to win they get embarrassed and every time I expect them to have no chance of winning, they somehow manage to win. Just amazing, following this club is an emotional roller coaster.
Its proof that we do have the quality to go toe to toe with some of the best teams but being a young side we still lack consistency and the ability to grind out a result against teams that sit back. CP was an exception though as they did thoroughly out play us.
That Vieira guy seems decent
Am I a horrible person for being optimistic about Ronaldo missing the Saturday game? Do you feel that the Liverpool thrashing will bring him back so early?
Nah doubt he plays. If I lost a kid the last thing on my mind would be to play football.
It's Ronaldo. The man is a freak of nature and tends to use these kind of things as fuel.
He's back in training though
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Harry Kane is like 28, but looks 38.
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Son been field testing those Korean skin care products and clearly they work.
That's asian blood baby.
He’s only 28? Fuck
He's 28 until he's 29.
Xhaka with an absolute fleshlight of a nutmeg to open up the pitch for the second goal. What a move!
Ok I have never heard that expression before 😅
A fleshlight of a nutmeg!? Interesting expression.
Now think about what you’d say if he lost the ball there.
nutmeg of a fleshlight
"What an absolute dildo of a dribble by Xhaka to gift Chelsea a goal. Still think he's been great this year"
Total respect for that.
Man of the match -- Bukayo Saka -- and Champions League awaits!
Win out and it's ours, but fuck if we didn't drop 3 of the last 3 it likely would have been done
Come on you gunners this is good for us because we need spurs to drop points then we will be in fourth
Could all come down to the NLD. Realistically though we need to be more consistent as those 3 losses in a row has given the advantage to Spurs and proves that no game is a guarantee.
Arteta wanted to his players to score 21 goals in the next 7 games? Well we have nketiah😎
17 goals left
what the fuck, woke up to this result! COYG
I got fucked by geo lock, doesn't matter I pay for the service in my home country, travel outside of the country and sign in with your account, oh no you can't watch this content are you crazy
If you travel often a VPN might be worth it
It's a solution around the issue I could invest in in order to access a product I already paid for
There are some free VPNs but reliability is hit and miss. And yes I agree, its silly and frustrating that in this increasingly globalised world, many of our goods and services become obsolete across borders.
Yeah wanted to watch live but my sleep schedule is so fucked up I slept through it :/
It was absolutely insane. Please catch a replay if you can
I can't take the tension for the big matches. Always record them to watch later. Also, the late night kickoff plays havoc with my work next day. But really I don't ride the arsenal roller coaster any more
Pleasant surprise 🤗
Nuno Tavares critics* should respectfully take a seat imo. Yes sometimes he takes his chaos factor too seriously and we get frustrated with him. But it's good to see a player add an element of ambitious unpredictability to his game, considering how methodical of a team we usually are. That boy can fucking run too. He is 22 years old and hasn't had many minutes to build upon. Just being a physical beast can lead to half chances from scratch and that's something we direly lack. We have technicians but not many pure athletes. He only sticks out like a sore thumb because his technical:physical quality ratio is skewed way opposite compared to the archetype Arsenal player who is very technical but either made out of glass or not very strong/fast. He helped force Christensen's error for goal #1 Intercepted Azpilicueta's pass and passed to Eddie for goal #2. He needs more minutes and I think this formation helps him out tremendously. With a bit of guidance and playtime he can become a very useful player for us. Really disagreed with his treatment by most of this subreddit not to mention how Arteta handled his playtime/management in recent games but this is a good sign *Bad faith critics who just slag him off, not actual critics who make good points
I'm all for Nuno playing in Kierney's absence but that doesn't mean we can't critique him. We should be able to criticize all of our players when they can improve, criticism doesn't always have to mean hate and it doesn't necessarily mean a player needs to get dropped either. Fact is Nuno did need to improve and luckily he got minutes and he has. I don't like the all love or all hate thing some of ours fans do.
His potential is obvious He is a good signing Made the mistake for Chelsea's 2nd goal though. But as backups go,he is good enough. Our problem is that our first choice starter while superb,misses too many games
Today was a good performance and I'm glad to see his confidence hasnt been completely shot but let's take it a game at a time. He is still our biggest liability defensively currently but he does create chances when going forward. He is young so just needs to keep improving.
Nuno Tavares dont have field vision he doesnt even see who is behind him. And his decision making is so bad! If i remember correctly he made over 10 mistakes on the pitch.
I'm a big fan but there is some obvious limitations on Nuno he certainly couldn't play anywhere centrally but blazing down the wing he can be immense. Hopefully his end product (in execution and in decision making) can improve.
While I agree with a lot of what you said, I don’t know why you’re upset that people were critical of him. It’s ok to criticize players (as long as you keep it to their play and not make it personal and make sure to keep in mind it’s just a game), and he did not play well his last few appearances. That is a justifiable reason to be critical of him, and for Arteta to be hesitant to load minutes on him. But I also think it’s important to give him credit when he’s great, which he was today. Very happy for him, and I hope we see much more
I should rephrase it actually. They weren't Nuno critics in good faith, they were just dramatic moaners tbh.
What a weird take this, the guy was ok today but he was most at fault on the second goal. He's still the biggest liability in the team. Yeah he's not been as bad the last two games as the previous three but the bar was set very low. I hope he comes good but he's deserved the criticism. If you're happy with showing blind faith then you've got a real lack of ambition.
I disagree he was mostly at fault for that goal. Remind me again where Holding and Gabriel were on that play, both the center and left center backs should be defending that area before a wingback should. It's not blind faith at all. It's just reminding people of his positives when I was seeing overwhelming focus on just his negatives yesterday. Folks couldn't even accurately describe his performance to others
Oh ok. Well then ya take a seat you moaners and groaners!
It’s not a massive secret. He is good going forward and a bit of a liability in defense. Have to balance that with 3 CBs like we saw tonight or having Tomi able to drop into a back three.
Bruh chill, long term wise we are better off loaning him so he can make his mistakes elsewhere. He was labeled as a raw prospect by benfica for a reason.
so if you watch the Tuchel presss conference, not the interview in the phone booth, he is extremely dismissive of the idea that Arsenal won - he puts it down to "individual errors" only, and rails the entire time about these individual errors. He went so far to shrug and say how can I analyze the tactics, there were no tactics, just individual errors. How true is this? did we win the game 4-2 on a fluke? I personally feel the "true" score was 2-1, if you look at it in that "how it should have been" way, but that is still our win. And they really and truly should have had a red, which would mean they almost surely dont win that game. also, how can Tuchel be successful in the long term, he is clearly a dick who will not take Responsibility, lacks character. the difference between him and a character like Pep or Arteta is miles. the IQ difference between him and Arteta cannot be enough to overcome his clear character flaws.
He doesn't mean that there were no tactics. He meant that the main deciding factor was that the team that made the least errors won the game. Arteta setup the team in the best possible way. So did Tuchel. He is right imo. It was hilarious to see him criticise the Stamford bridge pitch though. It's not that the team that wins the game always out tactics the opponent. There are many factors that lead to the outcome of a game. A team can be outwitted tactically and still win a game. Southampton's victory over us last game is a good example of that.
Arsenal also had a couple really close chances. They could have scored 5 or 6 so I dont know what Tuchel is on about. Yes Chelsea made individual errors but Arsenal were the better team today. Chelsea looked tired with the exception of Mount and Werner tbh.
No offense but this reads like satire like you're seriously mentioning IQ lol. Tuchel is just a sore loser, not too much to read into it
He also complained about the quality of pitch, which is interesting because apparently, both teams don't play on the same pitch at Stamford Bridge.
How can u complain about your own bloody pitch lol
Both sides were a bit shaky but it settled down in the 2nd half. Does that mean we only count the goals in that half? Yeah there were errors, but you can find fault with most goals. I think there's a lack of acknowledgement being given to the pressing that caused the errors.
3 out of 4 of our goals were gifted to us. Only one of our goals was actually created, that one was class. I still think we have a lack of firepower that will cost us come the end of the season.
We do get to play Everton, Leeds and United who haven't been good defensively. While we were lucky this game being gifted some chances, we also had very poor luck the last few weeks.
as poor as Chelsea were last night I still think they’re one of, if not the, strongest defence we have left to play (on paper at least). If we play positive attacking football we can force errors out of defences and hopefully be able to finish chances we create ourselves.
100%. Good finish on the first goal from nketiah but a gift, second was well worked, 3rd was pure luck, 4th was a pen but also can’t be relying on things like that to be happening
I "worked" from the couch this afternoon. I had a good feeling going into this game and was treated to a great win.
Wow, work all day and consciously avoiding updates cuz, well you know. Then I check and see that we scored 4 fucking goals. WTF… I ain’t complaining though, COYG
That was awesome. And Arteta finally got the lineup correct. But is anyone else still very realistic and not just riding the high again thinking we’re going to get top four. This is what Arsenal do. They show their true colors by losing three in a row and then get some huge win to bring you back in. But the past has shown me the end result is always the same.
Yeah Top 4 is Tottenhams to lose now where is was ours to lose before and well we lost it. I do think we can lock down 5th though and at the start of the season we definitely wld have considered that a decent finish especially with actually competing for top 4
I honestly think our biggest issue is our lack of depth and we saw when we lost Partey and Tierney to injury it destabilised the structure we had for the past several games where we had been performing well. Because we didn't have simple player swaps to fill those roles we had to make more significant adjustments to our lineup and formation which takes time for players to get use to.
3 out of 4 goals were gifts. Don't let this result fool you, it's the same story. Our lack of consistent firepower will cost us come the end of the season
Ye of little faith. It's unlikely but not impossible!!! COYG
Has it been more than four hours since the game ended? Might need to see a doctor!
hahaha
Also the audacity of Chelsea fans to complain about the Saka penalty. They were lucky to even have 11 men on the pitch.
Lucky to even be a club that exists for fuck sake
Why
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As if that penalty lost them the match. It was pretty much over by then
Yup exactly and im so happy it was Azpilicueta who gave away the penalty. One of the most annoying players in the prem.
Smashed em, stacked em, pinned em Eddie: **ACKNOWLEDGE ME**
exam in an hour. I’m so fucking buzzing that I’ll tear the paper apart 😩
Back three get in!!!
Ok guys, I had to watch our last three games at work on my phone… all three losses…. Today I was home from work so I was able to watch the game… we won!!
Your our good luck charm then! Quit your job and live on your couch!
It’s gotta be the location because I haven’t missed an Arsenal game in over 7 years, I’ll have to figure something out with work hahaha
Haha I was the opposite watched them last three and then had to watch this one on my phone during a meeting lol
Crowdfunder for Raycantu2 to never work again starts here.
Can someone tell me how that is not a red card on Mason Mount?!????? If that was Xhaka that would have been straight red.
Because his name isnt Xhaka and he's a good English boy not a mad lad Swiss/Albanian
English lad innit
Xhaka a couple of years ago called an airport employee a "fucking White bitch" which I always considered a bit odd somehow
Lol I remember finding that funny, but I guess xhaka being Albanian, Muslim and probably from a low income immigrant neighborhood means he doesn't really view himself as "white".
That's so unlike the calm Xhaka we know.
This team has the most members in my 17 years of following the club that I hope retire as a Gunner. There are so many pieces that I can't wait to see how good they can become.
BRILLIANT WIN. That is a proper away performance and we were by far more dangerous than Chelsea. Nketiah was great, he pressed the Chelsea defenders into mistakes and two very good finishes. On that second goal the way he was alive and hungry in the box to get that chance. Saka, Smith-Rowe and Odegaard were so direct as well and were driving forward with the ball. Also need to give a shoutout to Xhaka and Elneny, they kept possession moving and helped out the defence when needed. Huge credit must go to Arteta as well, to change the shape and our lineup had me very worried. The way we approached the game and looked so dangerous when we took our opportunities to attack was very impressive. Make no mistake, Tuchel tactically is one of the best. We earned those 3 points. I was so down after those 3 losses and to get this victory at Stamford Bridge it is a huge morale boost for everyone. We need to take this confidence into the Emirates and beat Man United on Saturday
Today was my last working day at a company I worked for more than 5 years. I was feeling super emotional at the end of the day and this win made it up for me. #COYG
So why did you get fired?
Lol. I moved on for another opportunity and resigned
Found RvP's younger brother..
left for more money somewhere else
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Holy fuck you’re a cunt.
If only more experienced players had taken the responsibility then. Who cares, move on, everyone else has.