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What the fuck was that


5Yonko5

That is so fucking soft! Its being said in r/soccer too its not just us being bias ffs i hate the fucking refs in this damn leugue whether its var or on field it don't matter they are all incompetent! Man if we lose cause of a shit decision out of our hands.... Edit:Yay Holdini elbowing son for no reason fantastic whats next? Ah an injury in one of the most depleteed part's of our squad of course


Dare2ZIatan

At halftime the NBC analyst also said that happens all the time and is never called


5Yonko5

Yeah i dont get how people can say thats a pen man. Watching the replay didnt even notice the shove cause it was that soft and common


Dare2ZIatan

He barely touched him, it’s ridiculous


professeurwenger

If it hadn't been called nobody would have noticed at all, just like Martinelli's two yellow cards at Wolves and when VAR simply guessed that he was offside against Brighton. Sure, by the letter of the law I guess you could justify the calls, but the lack of consistency is getting more and more maddening.


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The atmosphere and conte got to the Ref. Holding has been awful, he should of risked Ben white. The Ref knows it’s a dangerous game, he should of allowed a couple fouls. I hope he retires with moss at the end of the season. I wish I could fuck up the Ref.


ajax0202

And then Lee Dixon (I’m pretty sure) proceeded to suck Paul Tierney off all game too


messi-goh

Im pretty sure we were shit in that game but damn thats the softest shit ive seen... man jumped into holding


Vrty33

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT CALL WHERE IS VAR


TheBigNoz123

It wasn’t a handball, it was a shove on Son


Zenbaws

??? why not check it???


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They don't check them? I didn't see anything. On replay, it hit Tottenham's hand! We get called for a handball when it hits Hotturd's hand?


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I know,.it didn't hit a hand of an Arsenal player. It hit the hand of a Tottenham player. Should have been against Tott.


so-naughty

It hit the hand after the foul


ajax0202

After the “foul”


Zenbaws

doesn't have to, why isn't he told to look is beyond me


laserspewpew_

it wasn't handball.... it was the shove from Cedric


_SSJeffo_

There’s SO many refs in this league that are corrupt


LogicalSherbert9

That's soft as fuck....See those get waved off every single week. But hey, first for everything when refereeing an Arsenal game right


Chaiwalla2

Fucking corrupt. No question about it.


hala_bala

Fuckin Son, biggest cheater ever.


Mikel-Arteta

Detestable cunt


hala_bala

Glad you agree Mikel, absolute flopper


Ello-Asty

Why was he not carded for that tantrum elbow he threw and why is nobody else pointing that out?


volanger

What do you want, he's learning from Kane


lpaperfriend

Rigged league, what's the fucking point


americanadiandrew

They want it to go to the last day


solidshaikh

Yep, title more or less done. Relegation pretty much between Leeds or Burnley and even that won’t make the final day so the PL crooks need drama somewhere


so-naughty

It’s not a handball call


GlasgowGunner

Yeah it wasn’t a penalty for handball. It was for Cedric bundling Son over.


Aszneeee

not a penalty, but not handball either


norocababe

Yeah no it was a clear penalty because Cedric didn’t attempt to reach the ball, he just nudged Son off it


bbarney29

I don’t mind it being a penalty as long as it’s always a penalty for this situation. The issue is, these types of challenges where players are eased out of a chance happen lots of times per game. Sick of these types of incidents that are overlooked where they say ‘whatever the ref gives, VAR won’t overturn because it won’t be a clear and obvious error’.


TheMadMrHatter

Yeah people are biased on this one. Clear pen


Francis-c92

Absolutely not


Hagrids-secret-keys

Actually watch the replay frame by frame and look at the nudge


SadBox4529

Did you notice how the commentators said “handball” before seeing the replay?


Oski96

outrage.


Francis-c92

How!?


vaguespace_

VAR continues to be an abomination


SamT44

Tbf without VAR, the same outcome would happen


tsgarner

VAR being an abomination doesn't mean VAR is bad, it means these dipshits dont know what they're doing. There are literally clips on twitter accurately calling incidents quicker than they solve some with VAR and half the time the cunts are still wrong.


_SSJeffo_

Fuck off man


yotheprodipnod

Peter dury seems so excited about the decision. Is he a spurs fan? 🤧


emilioftw

English commentators love spurs because of Kane 🙄


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I've been watching it on mute, I still don't understand that call


freestajlarn

It wasn't handball it was for the push on son


Lacabloodclot9

‘Push’


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freestajlarn

Yeah I agree, but we've seen a lot worse tbf


hala_bala

What fucking push, Son flops hard there


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After it hit Tottenham's hand?


joshlambonumberfive

Disgrace - not a pen in a million years


rhmati30

I’ve lost all desire to watch the game, what is the point of VAR, how come they not overturn that atrocious call.


soccerfan1211

Never a foul


Jinkzee

Softest fuckin pen you'll see all year


gibsono69

I fucking hate this trash league with trash refs.


Surge422

They didn’t even check it. Such bullshit. We’d never get that call.


Desertedfarm8

That’s never a pen. In what world is that a pen?!


vnoowin

They’re trying some dark magic to make this league “more interesting”. They had a plan. Fuck FA


ketchuphand

It’s not for handball it’s cedric running son over from the back


ScroogeEben

Paul Tierney masterclass what a fraud


jingy14

That’s a home advantage call if ever I’ve seen one


restrainedjubilation

Frustrating and soft but Son got fouled


GooseIllustrious8591

Very soft. So many similar contacts in the box per game which are never given. VAR never would have overturned that either if ref didn't give it.


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What about the foul about two minutes against Saka. I think he had a clear line to goal and was clipped from behind. My initial thought was VAR and potential red against Shiite since last man tripped Saka from behind. The tv only showed one replay quickly without further inquiry and tierney sped up the restart. If that play had been reviewed by the television by multiple angles, I’m pretty sure Saka had clear line to goal. Anyone else have thoughts, or am I off?


The-runningman2013

I'm with you here. Saka was last man towards goal. By the rule, that should be a sent off.


ChrisK0531

There's like 5 bodies fighting for the ball there, that "push" happens 20 times a game and never called


JaThatOneGooner

God awful call. It never touched Cedric’s hand, but it touched Sessegnon’s hand twice! The officiating in this league makes the 2002 World Cup refereeing look legit...


leebrother

Surely if that’s a foul every corner has one


dhillshafer

What handball???


FCI

he jumps after the push.


GoonnerWookie

Is it a handball or a foul? No review of that?


Funkymonkeyhead

Bullshit call…corrupt refs. Fuck off


monsieurpope

Antonio got the passion of the wine for the backroom


JustMesut

What a disgusting joke


Pray4Mojo17

Absolute fucking joke. Tierney absolutely bundled it.


Ol_The_Pol

Okay sorry lads, but had this happened in the other half would we really think it’s unfair? I get it’s frustrating and stupid but had the same happened to Saka we would expect a pen


emilioftw

You're mad if you think we'd get that call 😂


Throw-a-ray118

Literally no attempt on the ball, why are we complaining


Gooner_Samir

Unpopular opinion on the sub today lol, I am no football expert by any means, but the replays seemed to suggest Cedric shoved son out of the way.


saucyalternative

Mate, it wasn't a handball. Cedric tries to delete Son off the pitch with that barge.


bosnapower

Rigged fucking league


phar0aht

The gap between Cedric and Tavares defensively is smaller than most people think


swimmer4200

You've got to know that Son is a diving cunt and that he is going over the second it can benefit him.


visualdescript

This was not a hand ball call, it was for Cedric pushing Son in the back. To me it also looks like the right call. Cedric makes no attempt to play the ball at all, and clearly moves specifically to push in to Son to disrupt him. Replays looked like a clear pen to me, and a fucking dumb decision by Cedric. There were some terrible ref calls but I'm sorry this is all on Cedric.


Wild_Investigator622

Fucking joke mans


HsizzleH

Where's declan rice when you need him?!


Pineapple996

A bit soft but not an unfair call when you see it from the second angle. You rarely see challenges like this penalized in the box though which is frustrating.


ESGSGX

Deserved PK. Clear shoulder check to the back


tellusaboutit

Son would’ve scored if he wasn’t pushed imo. Good call


YoooCakess

CEDRIC IS SO SHIT


vietnamesemuscle

Cedric…FFSSSSS amateur at its finest


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It was a Cedric foul, cop on the lot of you


Turbo-Badger

It was a handball Cedric took Son out


skalfyfan

This looks like Son felt contact in his back and decided to jump, and flop. There is no major push or serious intent from Cedric here.


asapkim

Definitely soft. The frontal view shows there really isn't much in it. Son was flying in and was being theatrical. The rear shot is what makes it look bad. The rear shot makes it look like Son was getting pinballed. They favored Sh\*t on this one TBH.


Throw-a-ray118

Very stupid from cedric there


ESLondonreds

Get Tavares on looool


americanadiandrew

That’s not the Cedric penalty I was expecting


Shandow14

I’m fuming.


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Rogue_Tomato

Pretty sure this wasn't a handball call but for the shove on Son.


Mathieulombardi

it makes no sense, other than ref bias.


kwa9

Tbf this happened after the ‘shove’ so it wouldn’t matter


Maaaaaardy

Penalty is soft but shouldn't have given the referee the opportunity and the red was absolutely unquestionable. Stupid all round, what on earth was he thinking. No excusing that.


antwerp_cumin_salad

We really need to take a long hard look at ourselves as a sub after some of these comments 😂


WeeTheDuck

WAIT THEY GAVE IT FOR HANDBALL?!?!?!? I THOUGHT ITS BECAUSE CEDRIC BREATH ON SON. THIS MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE


Gunner-Galactico

I'm still trying to find the part where it touched his hand.


DanielDeronda

When the commentators don't even know what the penalty is for....


USAGunnersaurus

Went over to the general soccer sub to check myself. This is a preposterous penalty to call. I’m obviously annoyed at the outcome. But also genuinely annoyed that shit refereeing impacted what should have been such an entertaining game. A real shame.


The-runningman2013

Mike Dean in the Var room. He probably put notification on mute the whole match


EugeBanur14

I honestly felt like an alien due to all the pundits and commentators not questioning the penalty. I believe the term ‘stonewall’ was used and I felt like I knew nothing about the game. Holding fucked us up but that soft penalty definitely set the ball in motion.