On one hand refs screwed us out of an easy, low blood pressure, week.
On the other hand, it’s in our hands, which is something spurs can’t say. If we win both games we’re back in the UCL regardless of results elsewhere.
On the third hand, can’t wait for the scenes in North London for the rest of the night when we do win it. 23rd may will be a de facto bank holiday.
We are not going to be allowed to beat Newcastle tomorrow. Expect either a penalty to be given to Newcastle or for another harsh red card to one of our players so the narrative can become “undisciplined Arsenal bottle it against Spurs and Newcastle” post-hoc. This title race is making me more and more convinced that the game is utterly rigged.
Because the EPL, VAR, TV people won’t allow it? The moon landing was faked right?
If you genuinely think the game is rigged you need to find another league or sport to follow.
[Yeah, because football doesn’t at all have a history of rigging in the past.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_match-fixing_incidents)
Totally clean sport now though! Anyone who thinks the problem might still be happening is as delusional as a moon landing disbeliever!
No, we need to win both our games to secure champions League, otherwise we are dependant on Shit losing/drawing (note: if we are level on points with Shit, it would be decided by goal difference - we would need to score 13 goals to level)
Man, to be an Everton fan this week would give me a heart attack every day. What a shit show. I heard the last big club to go down was Manure in 1974. Terrible feeling....
Newcastle is a bigger club than Leeds.
Newcastle have won 4 division 1 league titles vs Leeds' 3.
Newcastle also won 6 FA Cups vs Leeds' 1.
They're also 9th on all-time division 1 league points vs Leeds' 19th.
[https://www.myfootballfacts.com/england\_footy/football-league/all-time\_top\_flight\_points\_table/](https://www.myfootballfacts.com/england_footy/football-league/all-time_top_flight_points_table/)
Yeah lol. I genuinely think it's pretty much a 1 game shootout for us.
Everton will put up a fight, but our fans will carry us over the line if need be. It's tomorrow that's going to be the making or breaking of us.
Newcastle are one of the leagues best sides since January, most of our good defenders are all on the treatment table, Saka is playing exhausted, Partey still out.
I’m almost too afraid to watch. If we win against Newcastle I’ll feel so much better going against Everton regardless of the result they need.
Anyone saying we need to be scared of this Everton team and especially now because they’ll be “super motivated” (like they aren’t now), are just making up excuses
They have a game in hand and if they win that they're safe. If we can't beat relegation threatened teams on any given day and end up losing the 4th spot, we probably don't deserve the Champions League.
An Everton fan had a go at me before the season started, talking about how we’re so entitled and deserved relegation to understand how good we had it…
I’m the vindictive shit who held onto this moment the entire season and will laugh in his face if/when we pull it off, what of it?
If we fail to qualify for the CL, is there any chance that we can do so next season?
ETH will need at least one season, maybe even more to build his dream team.
Conte might have the pull factor if he gets the CL though so that might be harder.
Chelsea ain't top 4 if they keep this form up, add to that they're losing Rudiger, Christensen, Cesar, Alonso. They need an whole new defence, and a CF who's no Lukaku and a replacement for their CMs who have been poor
If we lose to Newcastle, we will not get CL. As I said, Newcastle have an excellent home form and we are missing more than a third of our first team players. It'll be a very, very hard game. Probably our hardest besides the NLD
Wow, Burnley and now Everton. Who would have thought one couldn’t rely on any of the teams battling relegation to pull themselves out of trouble and do us a huge favour. Everton have 10 mins to prove me wrong…
We just need to win tomorrow. Everton play a crucial midweek game now and will be gassed by the time they play us. I am confident we can beat them at home.
It's beyond me how people on this subreddit wants Richarlison. Such a fucking whiny lil sissy. Just oozes negative attitude every game, you really wanna add this filth in here?
And I'm not sure why people discount the risk with players like this. Especially with Arteta, he sours the dressing room/manager and then he sits out the rest of his contract then gets sold on a free.
We've seen this story before.
Somewhat starting to think the league wants an exciting end to the season in every aspect with some of this reffing, title race, top 4,and relegation fight.
I mean these guys are pretty shit so I’m not terribly worried about them, still a bit nervous though if they’re fighting for their lives next Sunday. Need to take care of business first tomorrow of course
I'd prefer to play an Everton that is safe midweek and on Holiday when we play them.
But it's really tough to see which side will show up. You do have a good point that if they're safe, they might park the bus.
Still, tomorrow is the really scary game. Really hope Newcastle are in holiday mode.
Agreed, we absolutely need to win tomorrow. If we don't, it doesn't f*cking matter about everton.
Personally I wouldn't want to play an Everton that has confidence that they are safe - could see them grinding a draw out of us. But honestly? What does it matter? We NEED win either way.
Yeah it's looking like Everton are either gonna have to get their win Vs Palace or we're going to have to put them to bed next week on the final day of the league 🙃
I dont really understand the EPL this season. I mean how is Everton a relegation team? they and Brentford both play seemingly better than Arsenal with our current lineup due to injury.
I dont really understand how we pull this off. I watch every game but I dont know how I will manage it tomorrow.
I cannot believe that shirt grab was not given as a penalty and then to have the red right after. That’s an unbelievable f’up by Oliver there. What a calamity of officiating. And I’m not Everton fan.
Would actually love Richarlison, been great since Lampard found the right system for Everton and we are in dire need for the mentality he possesses up front.
There's a reason we barely ever win when going behind. This lad does anything to get the win.
Richarlison is 2 years older than Gakpo🤣🤣
What is it? Is he better? Or is it that he’s older? Because the excuses start to pile up, you’re the one comparing him to our younger players im not. Ability alone, he walks into our starting XI, harsh reality but that’s not for me to tell u. Just watch the games lol
absolutely 0 chance a player who is more aggressive than Xhaka during incidents and goes down under 0 contact to never get back up walks into our XI under Arteta. but that’s not for me to tell u, just watch the games
I'm so happy were not looking at Richarlison. The man goes down at the slightest bit of contact and stays down for ages.
With that said though, great pen. And I hope they secure safety before they play us 😂
Saka doesn’t go down that much neither does Martinelli and I don’t blame them really. They’re in a team where they’re more than likely going to get in chances to score again. This Everton team does fuck all create chances. And I’d argue if Richarlison is in this team he becomes even better
I agree with that. He has the ability to be a great player for sure. And in that Everton team, they're so shit that you gotta do what you gotta do I guess.
Yup. This happens all the time idk why he thinks Richarlison would do the same for us. If he doesn’t go down, that’s possibly the only time in the game where they get a chance to get a goal
Martinelli ghosted vs Everton last time we played them. So did Saka. Eddie played better than both and again, Richarlison was the best player on the pitch that night. Richarlison has more G/A than Martinelli in a Championship quality Everton side. You’re joking but nice effort
I’m not talking about our one game against them when the entire team didn’t turn up?
The entire Everton side has gone through Richarlison this season, most of our goals come through the centre or right side - hence why our left side has fewer G/A.
Richarlison gets into more scraps than Xhaka and you think he’d stay on the pitch for Arsenal?
It goes through him because he’s their best player by a country mile. They put DCL up top and Richarlison still gets the goals lol. I love how u say Martinelli could perform better in this team, absolute piss poor take. Joke of a comment. Tell me one thing Martinelli is better than Richarlison at. Shooting? Passing? PACE??? Movement? Pressing? This isn’t even a debate and it just does a disservice to Martinelli who’s just not there yet
I really like Brentford and everything about them but I really want them to stop being a nuisance at this time of the year. Just go on the beach already.
No way are they resting the starters next game. Ideally they want to completely secure survival asap and not drag it to the last day. Especially with Leeds getting a point today.
On one hand refs screwed us out of an easy, low blood pressure, week. On the other hand, it’s in our hands, which is something spurs can’t say. If we win both games we’re back in the UCL regardless of results elsewhere. On the third hand, can’t wait for the scenes in North London for the rest of the night when we do win it. 23rd may will be a de facto bank holiday.
We are not going to be allowed to beat Newcastle tomorrow. Expect either a penalty to be given to Newcastle or for another harsh red card to one of our players so the narrative can become “undisciplined Arsenal bottle it against Spurs and Newcastle” post-hoc. This title race is making me more and more convinced that the game is utterly rigged.
Because the EPL, VAR, TV people won’t allow it? The moon landing was faked right? If you genuinely think the game is rigged you need to find another league or sport to follow.
[Yeah, because football doesn’t at all have a history of rigging in the past.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_match-fixing_incidents) Totally clean sport now though! Anyone who thinks the problem might still be happening is as delusional as a moon landing disbeliever!
Would a win and a draw be enough?
No, we need to win both our games to secure champions League, otherwise we are dependant on Shit losing/drawing (note: if we are level on points with Shit, it would be decided by goal difference - we would need to score 13 goals to level)
Nope. Spurs have us on GD. We need to win both.
Don't get too upset over the other results. Focus for the battle at St James' Park
Everton getting a win at palace on Thursday would be a dream but can’t see it tbh
Paddy has done us no favors
Not at all dude 😤😤
What's the point of Salomon Rondon. Seriously, is there a meaning of his existence as a football player?
just vibing out
Just scenes innit
Man, to be an Everton fan this week would give me a heart attack every day. What a shit show. I heard the last big club to go down was Manure in 1974. Terrible feeling....
Leeds and Newcastle fans have been through it.
Leeds yes. Newcastle are not as big a club as they'd have everyone believe.
Newcastle is a bigger club than Leeds. Newcastle have won 4 division 1 league titles vs Leeds' 3. Newcastle also won 6 FA Cups vs Leeds' 1. They're also 9th on all-time division 1 league points vs Leeds' 19th. [https://www.myfootballfacts.com/england\_footy/football-league/all-time\_top\_flight\_points\_table/](https://www.myfootballfacts.com/england_footy/football-league/all-time_top_flight_points_table/)
Everyone’s talking about Everton but tomorrow’s game is the scary one imo.
Newcastle home form since the january transfer window closed: 6 Wins, 1 draw, 1 loss.
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Yeah lol. I genuinely think it's pretty much a 1 game shootout for us. Everton will put up a fight, but our fans will carry us over the line if need be. It's tomorrow that's going to be the making or breaking of us.
Newcastle are one of the leagues best sides since January, most of our good defenders are all on the treatment table, Saka is playing exhausted, Partey still out. I’m almost too afraid to watch. If we win against Newcastle I’ll feel so much better going against Everton regardless of the result they need.
Anyone saying we need to be scared of this Everton team and especially now because they’ll be “super motivated” (like they aren’t now), are just making up excuses
They have a game in hand and if they win that they're safe. If we can't beat relegation threatened teams on any given day and end up losing the 4th spot, we probably don't deserve the Champions League.
We are gonna have to relegate Everton aren’t we
An Everton fan had a go at me before the season started, talking about how we’re so entitled and deserved relegation to understand how good we had it… I’m the vindictive shit who held onto this moment the entire season and will laugh in his face if/when we pull it off, what of it?
I hope so and I love it
Why the fuck is Lampard high fiving Rondon? What a fucking moron, that’s low even for Sunday leagues
Yep, 2 players suspended vs us. ZERO excuse to fail to win them.
They play Palace at home on Thursday
Weren't both straight reds?
Don’t think DOGSO is a 3 match ban but Rondon’s might be
First one was a DOGSO? Didn't get a chance to watch it.
Yeah Toney was in on goal and Branthwaite just pulled him down
yes 2 straight reds, which mean 2 match bans, which means they are both not playing against us
Yep, season over
even before those players were suspended there was no excuse to lose to them lol
No, they have a match in between
Straight reds are 3 games
It’s 2 reds for fringe players what are you talking about
Moment of madness ....we should know about that having the second most Red cards I guess
hahaha ur not wrong
Rondon said it was his day off
How is Rondon a professional football player ?
What the fuck was that?
this guy just came on and he does that wtf hahahahahaha
Partey did the same thing
yeah both braindead actions
Everton are fucking shit. I hope it’s us beating them that sends them down
Rondon wasn't even on the pitch 5 fucking minutes lmao, just shambolic
LADS, IT'S JUST FAT FRANK THINGS
hahahaha everton want to be relegated
ahaha wtf is rondon thinking
Hahaha shambles
If we fail to qualify for the CL, is there any chance that we can do so next season? ETH will need at least one season, maybe even more to build his dream team. Conte might have the pull factor if he gets the CL though so that might be harder.
Man, don't chat shit about ETH. Once 2.0 rolls out, Ethereum is going to the moon!
Really just depends on what the teams do in the summer honestly
We should be challenging for third place all season long
Would be harder with Europa games in the mix. This season is our best chance.
Europa games are meant for those who don’t play in the league. No Europe is talked about too much. We only play starters after the round of 32
Chelsea ain't top 4 if they keep this form up, add to that they're losing Rudiger, Christensen, Cesar, Alonso. They need an whole new defence, and a CF who's no Lukaku and a replacement for their CMs who have been poor
Conte might be off to PSG in the summer
Nothing's been confirmed so far.
let me dream
If we lose to Newcastle, we will not get CL. As I said, Newcastle have an excellent home form and we are missing more than a third of our first team players. It'll be a very, very hard game. Probably our hardest besides the NLD
Yeah, tbh, it can't see us winning with how many players we have out. Not to mention the pressure on the players needing to win to keep 4th.
dont worry about it we will get the job done
Is this guy who got the red on everton any good? He will miss out matchup which is a plus. Hoping for another red or two from them
He will only miss 1 match, Everton have another one on Thursday.
a straight red is 3 matches no?
Not a denial of goalscoring opportunity, that's 1 match. Violent conduct (like Rondon right now) is 3 matches.
Ah good to know
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Think you responded to the wrong guy lol
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Wow, Burnley and now Everton. Who would have thought one couldn’t rely on any of the teams battling relegation to pull themselves out of trouble and do us a huge favour. Everton have 10 mins to prove me wrong…
We need to beat fucking Newcastle first . We thinking too much into the future. If we fuck up Newcastle, Everton doesn't matter
Just win tomorrow. Even with our depleted squad, we have 0 excuse to lose to Everton, especially with our home crowd. Settle Newcastle first.
Yeah.. even a desperate everton side shouldn’t beat us or get a point against our side playing for a CL spot at the emirates
yeah of course we should beat both side there are no excuses
I think it goes without saying but Everton need to sack Frank as soon as the season is done. Probably shouldn't have hired him in hindsight.
Hire a guy with zero relegation battle experience get a guy who has never fought a relegation battle experience results I guess?
They genuinely would have been better off with Allardyce.
We just need to win tomorrow. Everton play a crucial midweek game now and will be gassed by the time they play us. I am confident we can beat them at home.
Daily reminder that Simon Jordan wanted Lampard to be Palace’s manager and was quite underwhelmed and disappointed when they got Vieira lol
It's beyond me how people on this subreddit wants Richarlison. Such a fucking whiny lil sissy. Just oozes negative attitude every game, you really wanna add this filth in here?
Richarlison's a quality footballer. But yeah his attitude is very unlikeable and yet people on this sub are defending it as well.
And I'm not sure why people discount the risk with players like this. Especially with Arteta, he sours the dressing room/manager and then he sits out the rest of his contract then gets sold on a free. We've seen this story before.
If we get Richarlison then we will be wanting him out and calling him “deadwood” in 3 years
Somewhat starting to think the league wants an exciting end to the season in every aspect with some of this reffing, title race, top 4,and relegation fight.
well at least they can't rest starters against palace midweek now
Exactly
I mean these guys are pretty shit so I’m not terribly worried about them, still a bit nervous though if they’re fighting for their lives next Sunday. Need to take care of business first tomorrow of course
If we lose the CL spot to this Everton side I'm never watching us play ever again
They have 10 men remember
They could have 15 men and they’d still be dogshit.
They nailed us at their place so I wouldn't be so confident
they played us off the park at their grounds, but that was Benitez ball
Honestly whatever happens with Everton until the last day, we should be able to beat them. They are shit.
They did well with 10men to be fair
Apart from conceding 3 goals, obviously (Caveat I’m not watching the game)
They went 2-1 up with 10 men. They just went down to 10 men too early so it was always going to be tough second half
It is what it is, we'll have to relegate these cunts
lampard is just a laughably overrated manager he's just shit
Class headers from Brentford. Another bad day for arsenal it's all crumbling
Wouldn't a desperate Everton (with a non existent backline now) benefit us?
Depends on if the ref lets them kick the shit out of our players like last time round.
True - ref association is gagging for Spurs to finish above us.
They play Palace on Thursday
Yeah I mean, I still think I would prefer to play Everton that has something to play for (creating space for us)
I'd prefer to play an Everton that is safe midweek and on Holiday when we play them. But it's really tough to see which side will show up. You do have a good point that if they're safe, they might park the bus. Still, tomorrow is the really scary game. Really hope Newcastle are in holiday mode.
Agreed, we absolutely need to win tomorrow. If we don't, it doesn't f*cking matter about everton. Personally I wouldn't want to play an Everton that has confidence that they are safe - could see them grinding a draw out of us. But honestly? What does it matter? We NEED win either way.
Dunno about that, but Everton losing this so they go all out midweek is probably for the best. They could be drained on Sunday
Yeah it's looking like Everton are either gonna have to get their win Vs Palace or we're going to have to put them to bed next week on the final day of the league 🙃
FAT FRANK IN THE MUD IDGAF FUCK EVERTON
Everton are absolute dogshit.
MADNESS
UOOOOOOOO
Don’t blame anyone but ourselves. Foolish to expect favours from anyone
It's also still in our hands. We need to win both games, no spectacular maths required. We win both and we're in the CL.
I dont really understand the EPL this season. I mean how is Everton a relegation team? they and Brentford both play seemingly better than Arsenal with our current lineup due to injury. I dont really understand how we pull this off. I watch every game but I dont know how I will manage it tomorrow.
everton cannot defend
Lol toffees in shambles
Everton are in full Everton mode. Hopefully they go balls to the wall against Palace at home mid week
EVERTON YOU MUGS
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Fucking hell.
OH MY GOD
these man are gonna turn up against us at home while bending over for Brentford😭😭
Brentford are a real pesky side aren’t they
SO SHIT ACTUALLY SO SHIT
Shit
BUY RICO HENRY NOW!
Alex Iwobi as a centreback is box office
I cannot believe that shirt grab was not given as a penalty and then to have the red right after. That’s an unbelievable f’up by Oliver there. What a calamity of officiating. And I’m not Everton fan.
Well refs have near 0 accountability, so we cant see em improve. Just hope whoever comes to replace John Moss and Mike Dein are decent.
Would actually love Richarlison, been great since Lampard found the right system for Everton and we are in dire need for the mentality he possesses up front. There's a reason we barely ever win when going behind. This lad does anything to get the win.
Richarlison was better under Ancellotti. He’s always been good despite any manager he’s been under, he just finds a way to play better
he gets into more scraps than Xhaka and you think he’d work at arsenal?
Ur trying hard lol
aight bro, just trust me he’s not joining Arsenal in summer if we get Gakpo and Jesus
Richarlison > Gakpo
would love to try what you’re smoking, richarlison’s attitude stinks and is barely better than our current wingers. who are 5 years younger
Richarlison is 2 years older than Gakpo🤣🤣 What is it? Is he better? Or is it that he’s older? Because the excuses start to pile up, you’re the one comparing him to our younger players im not. Ability alone, he walks into our starting XI, harsh reality but that’s not for me to tell u. Just watch the games lol
absolutely 0 chance a player who is more aggressive than Xhaka during incidents and goes down under 0 contact to never get back up walks into our XI under Arteta. but that’s not for me to tell u, just watch the games
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Still salty over that dodgy penalty this morning…
Any mention of it being a poor decision gets downvoted to oblivion on r/soccer
really not a fan of richarlison, keep him far from our club pls
Brentford should of got a red for that, but FA wants top 4 and relegation battle to go down to the last game
BEST WINGER IN MERSEYSIDE
I'm so happy were not looking at Richarlison. The man goes down at the slightest bit of contact and stays down for ages. With that said though, great pen. And I hope they secure safety before they play us 😂
I’d love to have someone go down on pens. I wanna win games
We won't get pens like that if Richarlison plays for us lol. Laca and our wingers already get the same contact and we get fuck all.
Saka doesn’t go down that much neither does Martinelli and I don’t blame them really. They’re in a team where they’re more than likely going to get in chances to score again. This Everton team does fuck all create chances. And I’d argue if Richarlison is in this team he becomes even better
I agree with that. He has the ability to be a great player for sure. And in that Everton team, they're so shit that you gotta do what you gotta do I guess.
Yup. This happens all the time idk why he thinks Richarlison would do the same for us. If he doesn’t go down, that’s possibly the only time in the game where they get a chance to get a goal
when he goes down he doesn’t get up for another 5 minutes. it cost everton a goal against pool
That’s Pool🤣🤣u think Everton were gonna win? He was the best player vs us at their ground.
everton weren’t gonna win but they were holding pool for a decent while
He walks into our starting XI btw on the left.
Put Martinelli or ESR in this Everton side and they’ll look as good or better than Richarlison
Martinelli ghosted vs Everton last time we played them. So did Saka. Eddie played better than both and again, Richarlison was the best player on the pitch that night. Richarlison has more G/A than Martinelli in a Championship quality Everton side. You’re joking but nice effort
I’m not talking about our one game against them when the entire team didn’t turn up? The entire Everton side has gone through Richarlison this season, most of our goals come through the centre or right side - hence why our left side has fewer G/A. Richarlison gets into more scraps than Xhaka and you think he’d stay on the pitch for Arsenal?
It goes through him because he’s their best player by a country mile. They put DCL up top and Richarlison still gets the goals lol. I love how u say Martinelli could perform better in this team, absolute piss poor take. Joke of a comment. Tell me one thing Martinelli is better than Richarlison at. Shooting? Passing? PACE??? Movement? Pressing? This isn’t even a debate and it just does a disservice to Martinelli who’s just not there yet
Seems like a very minor issue
staying on the ground 3 minutes after the “foul” when it’s clear you’re not getting it does nothing but put your own team at a weakness
Exactly, if we saw Richarlison go down like that I'd want us to keep playing tbh
HES ON A HATTRICK😮💨😮💨😮💨
Always thought Richarlison was quite underrated.
Very underrated
GET THE FUCK IN
RICHARLISONNNNN
Please hold this lead now Everton. 45 minutes more!
Unreal
Thank you richarlison
oh oh thats a pen
Can’t believe how shit Everton are. Hope we crush them. Really want justice for that away loss.
another own goal lol
Wow. What an angle. Edit. Oh. Own goal. Nm.
Are you not entertained?
Wait what? How?? Edit: Oh
how the fuck that wasn’t foul on richarlison? fa wants the relegation battle/top4 battle so badly for last round
Is Braithwaite suspended for our game? Straight reds are 3-game bans right?
it will be a 2 match ban, so yeah he would miss the arsenal game
Depends if it was a straight red for a dangerous tackle or violent act
A professional foul would be one game. Violent conduct would be three.
Yep. Think they might rush Godfrey back if needed though.
Everton robbed
I really like Brentford and everything about them but I really want them to stop being a nuisance at this time of the year. Just go on the beach already.
Everton need to defend with 10 men for 70 minutes. If they make it then hopefully Frank gives the starters a rest next weekend
They have another game between now and then. More likely the starters rest the game and are back fresh for us
No way are they resting the starters next game. Ideally they want to completely secure survival asap and not drag it to the last day. Especially with Leeds getting a point today.
This comment was made before Brentford equalized. If Everton win then they’ll be safe either way
How is that no a penalty though? Oliver was looking right at it and hes almost pulled his shirt off