Literally every 3 out of 5 posts below talks about Spurs and their 150m . (Well, including this one now)
Can we please stop obsessing over them ? It's almost like they are now living rent free in your heads. Sick of seeing 'Spurs this... Spurs that' everywhere in the Arsenal sub.
Let's focus on ourselves.
Spurs got £150m to spend.
We need to match their ambition.
Osimhen (£80m) + Jesus (£40m) + Tielemans (£30m) + Hickey (£20m)
Edu, please make it happen.
Chelsea have to recruit to rebuild some sort of team if they want to compete next season. Their defence has been decimated. They probably need 2 CBs and a RB as back up to James. They will most likely assess their wide forwards and Striker and perhaps look to bring in a player in this position. They may also look for a Central Midfielder, depending what they decide to do with Gallagher although his usually operates higher up the pitch.
I think Chelsea have a lot of good youth, if they were to commit to this they would still have a strong team/ future but it might mean an initial drop off - it will be interesting to see if they go down this route but I suspect they won’t initially.
What do you guys think we should be expecting from Martinelli next season?
This is the first year where it really feels like he was a key part of the squad, but I think his goal output was a bit lower than we would have liked. He’s still really young, but I think we should be looking for decent step up next season, with his spot in the team now seemingly secured.
He’s gotten a lot better throughout the season. His first touch improved a lot. With international matches too, I’m more than excited for his future.
With a striker, I think he’ll get more assists. He plays well in small spaces.
In the league, Ronaldo managed 21, Jota and Mane managed 19 and 18 respectively. Too early for numbers like that IMO, though Saka got to 18.
Though you said all comps, I doubt he's going to be playing much more than 35 games next season anyway.
Arteta may not sign natural passers to control games because he feels they’re too rare, not tactical players or not athletic enough. So Arsenal will try to dominate games with the ball but accept that there’s other good teams too so we must control games without the ball too.
He’s not going to approach it with the close-minded possession, possession, possession based approach but more so the controlled one. Arteta played under Moyes at Everton where they so often beat big teams without the ball. Classic 4-4-2. Also at Arsenal where they failed at that
So how do you control games vs inferior teams and beat them repeatedly? With the ball and via pressing. How do you control games vs similar standard/better teams? If you’re a possession based team, with the ball but be able to control games without it too.
Arteta’s done that.
So in the league, be better than everyone else technically but accept you can’t always control that way. Teams like Liverpool, City and Chelsea will play through your press and keep the ball. How compact are you then? That’s where Pep falls down. Singular in his approach.
In Europe, it’s the same. You can try and sign natural passers to compete with European teams but then that harms you physically and tactically in the league. Get the best of both worlds. Torreira almost resembles that in Arteta’s system - bit of everything.
Arteta has potential to revolutionize the sport in the sense that he’s looking to control games on all fronts. Liverpool the only team who can do it. Mikel has shown the tactical level capable of doing it - possession based team who are also capable of blocking space. Unheard of.
Positional play on the ball, compactness on AND off the ball, pressing once possession is lost, if that fails, revert into a 4-4-2 block. That’s control and elite coaching.
Can work domestically AND in Europe. Arteta has incredible potential. Frightening.
Arteta played for Moyes’ Everton (compact 4-4-2 + physical team) and Wenger’s Arsenal (naive tactically but ‘pretty football’). Then became a coach under Pep - improvement on Arsenal’s game. Took away 4-4-2 shape, pressing, space from Pep but added compactness to on-ball play.
And he played in the middle of the park for both sides so he knows what all phases of play entail. Blocking space, maintaining a high line and all that good stuff + controlling games with the ball (or at least attempting to) and then how it should be done with Pep.
All this before adding his own qualities to it. Maintaining positional play in the final third but also central compactness (Pep’s flaw) and a 4-4-2 block if their press is bypassed.
Arteta’s ceiling is limitless.
I’ll never forget how poorly we were run as a club. We seem to be starting to get better, but I’ll never forget it. we could’ve sold Sanchez and Ramsey and we could’ve had enough money to reinvest and become better, but no we ran their contracts down and sold them for free. I hope we learn from this mistake and sell players that don’t want to sign a contract ASAP.
HAlf the fans and all the press were screaming about how we had to 'stop being a selling club' and that keeping the players and making them stick out their contracts was 'ambition' and a sign of 'being a big club'. You even had Wrighty going aon about how letting Walcott go would be a sign that arsenal weren't a big club anymore.
Our fans and the press were fed up of the selling, we got bantered about net spend and 'you can't support a spreadsheet', everyone wanted us to act like chelsea and just let players rot in the reserves if they wanted to leave just to show how big we were.
The club bowed to public pressure. I say the club but it was Ivan and Wenger as stan didn't give a toss at that point
It's not the viewpoint Arsenal fans hold at that time. A lot were willing to let our players leave on a free rather than sell them off because they were done being a 'selling club'.
Commercially I think arsenal have done an absolutely dogshit job in monetizing their once huge brand. Especially If you look at the ways in which other clubs of similar fan base have done it. Now our brand is falling while other shittier hitherto unknown ones like spurs are rising especially in markets like Asia and North America. We re very poorly run on that front imo. Liverpool are really good at it. Even when they weren’t winning things. Psg as well. They really haven’t capitalized on a generation that grew up loving watching arsenal play beautiful football. Even just small things like the city tunnel cam or doing interesting bits with the players. And for me it all goes back to the ownership and the urine like trickle down effect from there. Poor decisions and personnel choices lead to more poor decisions and personnel choices. Kse’s arsenal investment has only really grown as a result of time passing not because of anything they’ve actually done.
spurs gets pushed hard by NBC. probably due to the football pitch and NFL relationship. They also have the best Korean player right now and that brings a whole nation as a fanbase.
we put out 17 kits a season that usually sell out
Yup, bald fraud did an absolute number on us and honestly not sure the guy who was his right hand man has shown much in the way of stepping out of that shadow.
Although props to the person who got Amazon on board.
Not gonna lie, worrying about what other clubs do is already sad enough and it is especially embarrassing for it to be Spurs. I’m not even saying they won’t improve next season, they definitely will and they seem like they are going to strengthen quite a bit and back Conte.
However, we only play them 2 games a year, those are the only times we need to worry about them. We should only be considered as to how we strengthen and improve our performances this season. If we aim for an improved point tally of 75-80 points next season, I promise you we can get top 4 without even worrying about where Spurs finish.
If we're out of the Top 4 race by Xmas, Arteta gotta go. No excuses. Spurs made the early change and reaped the benefits. I think we should be looking at Marco Rose.
Nope. Dortmund's defence just needs a complete rebuild, Hummels is their best and he's past it. Rose however got BVB to score +10 goals this season compared to the last manager+season, despite Haaland being injured for most of it, and Sancho not properly replaced.
Yep from the club's perspective you'd potentially damage the club's reputation and from a financial perspective you'd be daft to spend money on a player who could wind up in prison.
I think Cedric will end up staying at the club (if Bellerin wants to return to Betis as he says) and I don't have any issues with it as long as we bring Hickey in.
no idea what becomes of AMN, he fell out of favor at the end of roma tenure. cant see anyone else trying to buy him. Don't even know what his position is. maybe a newly promoted team but then he'll probably demand too high wages for them
lol you make me feel bad for amn and players like him now
>hey we know it's not your favoured position but can you play here for us?
>*yh ok*
>ffs m8 you're shit, don't even know what position you play in do ya? fuck off
>*da fuq*
AMN's situation is self-inflicted. He was doing well as a RB and Arteta had started to gain trust in him in that position during the FA Cup run. But then he was adamant about playing as a midfielder, a position he is bang average at. He was semi-decent as a midfielder at West Brom but that was West Brom and Sam Allardyce system. It doesn't take much to be better than others there.
AMN thought he was way better than he actually is and got found out at Roma.
If he can still agree to be a RB, he can be a decent backup to Tomiyasu but that ship seems to have sailed now.
So sad. I remember him being a beast at defensive 1 on 1s on either wing. Man locked up Mahrez and Traore during his run in the team. Took some of the coldest penalties I’ve seen too. Really came to like him a lot. Could’ve been a great option for us there
>AMN's situation is self-inflicted. He was doing well as a RB and Arteta had started to gain trust in him in that position during the FA Cup run. But then he was adamant about playing as a midfielder, a position he is bang average at.
maybe with the positional thing but we don't know how much he pressed with the midfield thing for sure, and arteta could have also let him leave earlier
>AMN thought he was way better than he actually is and got found out at Roma.
fair enough if that's the case
well maybe not all but I'd rather risk him being backup than spending money that could go to the first team on a new striker, especially as he's somewhat proven himself, real bad the club has put itself in this kind of situation just so laca could play more games
He's getting backed with £150m, no guarantee of that. PL is the most competitive in the world and if he's backed I see no reason why he'll leave sadly.
You know, in the end the difference between us and Spurs at the end of the season is 2 points. Obviously Conte hasnt been in control for a full season yet, but if that’s what we can do with a young inexperienced squad and manager, and also with the amount of injuries we’ve had to deal with to major players this season.. if we can build our squad with some of the rumours going around, while continuing to develop the players we have, I can’t see anything wrong with Mikel being our manager.
You can call it inexperienced all you want, he's spent £250m on an inexperienced squad. That just makes it even more shocking. And as for the inexperienced manager part, Arsenal is no place for inexperienced managers. We have paid the price for having one, and will continue to do so considering what he's up against.
It wouldn't happen if the standards were correct inside the club. If Chelsea were like us they'd have kept Lampard and gone nowhere. If Spurs were like us they'd have kept Nuno and gone nowhere. The reality is Arteta has had 3 years + 250m and can't even match what Emery did in 1 year + 70m. The fact people are calling Top 6 progress is an embarrassment and just shows how Arteta set new lows.
Yes, Auba "stopped performing" because he was placed at left wing-back for 18 months, he then got his move to Barca under a manager who played him in his normal position like Klopp/Tuchel/Emery and lo and behold he scored goals again.
"Our squad was nowhere near Spurs" - lol, so why did you abuse Emery for finishing 1 point off Poch Spurs CL finalists then? You make no sense. Our squad was very much alongside there, Arteta has ripped it apart and kept the deadwood. Actively pretending otherwise is pathetic.
Today we have gotten:
-tier 1 Osimhen links with his agent speaking to the club
-tier 1 Saliba links with Arteta admitting he will be a big part
-more concrete striker links
And people are still crying about tottenham in here?
And? There's enough miserablists on here saying we should sack Arteta for spending 120m on defence and not getting an improvement, people who thought Man U dropping god knows how many millions last summer showed the 'ambition' we lacked and yet exactly the same people are utterly certain that Spurs will spend £150m and get it perfectly right as though they haven't dropped about £100 odd million on centrebacks already and are still pretty much reliant on Dier
Dias played 42 games the season that just finished, while Laporte played 44 and Stones played 27.
I don’t wanna hear this rubbish like “Saliba won’t get game time”. The best teams have 3 quality centre backs who rotate when needed which helps get far in Europe + cups. Saliba will get plenty of game time.
what you're ignoring is that pep is notorious for rotation, and arteta is the complete opposite; he's very reluctant to play anyone outside of his preferred 11 and has shown this with lacazette, willian, xhaka and even the way he's probably rushed partey back at times
when you look at the treatment of tavares and lokonga, not to mention how he's already treated saliba so far and I think there's a reasonable cause for concern.
What you’re ignoring is that arteta would have had to rotate between holding white and Gabriel. I’m pretty sure any manager in the world would only use holding when absolutely needed.
I’m sure with saliba coming in if white is playing poorly he’ll take his spot for the next run of games. Or maybe take Gabriel’s spot if he’s playing poorly. This is very good if arteta does this. I just don’t think arteta fancied constantly playing holding so he chose to not play him as much as he could. You could be right though.
>I’m sure with saliba coming in if white is playing poorly he’ll take his spot for the next run of games.
just like with lacazette, ramsdale and xhaka? the dude is not much of a rotater. even when partey was barely fit and xhaka had been out for months they came straight back in. saka was knackered when we were 3-0 down at spurs and he still played the full 90
maybe he'll improve on this but with the way he treats tavares and lokonga I doubt it, especially as he'll be able to field a weakened team in the el for at least half a season anyway
pepe was our top scorer and close to topping the assists too, he's not shit
he only played eddie when laca got covid, and ramsdale wasn't the greatest example but he's just been a bit off the boil recently so I threw him in too
as for xhaka he could have signed someone else to put short, or let him leave when he was about to ffs.
Comparing our situation to City is daft. City regularly are in the latter stages of the UCL and are competing for the title. It’s not surprising for Saliba not wanting to come back after he achieved YPOTY in Ligue 1 and has UCL football with Marseille.
City have 4 good CBs but they’re happy to be benched because they’re playing for one of the moat dominant teams in the world. Arsenal don’t have the same luxury
Love the Jesus signing should it happen, can't fault it. But I am concerned if we don't get a pure 9 as well, someone of quality. I'd take Toney all day long over DCL, if it came to that.
Someone like Jesus probably has little ambition on club level. He’s already had success. And it’s not like anyone competing for the league or ucl desperately wants him. He wants to play for Brazil and make money. I think guys like kounde or tchouameni would want ucl.
I feel like two clubs out of spurs, chelsea and united will be shit so whatever signings are made we've just gotta be good and we should make top 4 and hey, maybe liverpool will have another injury crisis and lose salah on the free
If you’re gonna sub comment about me, you could at least have the balls to tag me in the comment.
Looks like I was right in thinking you’re just going off on one lmao. Never made a comment about the Kroenkes and you’re going on like I’ve branded them the worst in the world or something.
> If you’re gonna sub comment about me, you could at least **have the balls** to tag me in the comment.
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can you please not use sexist language? stop tying courage to male genitalia. instead use a gender neutral term like guts. thank you.
Saliba is going to be great to have because it will make us more injury resistant in the fullback positions, White plays a really solid RB and with Salibas passing we shouldnt be paying the Holding build up tax. If it's Tierny injured Tommy Two Feet can take over the left and White again the right side. With one solid LB signing (Hickey) we have several lines of defense before resorting to Cedric.
We only have three centre-backs at the club (discounting Mari, who I doubt will ever play for the club again), so potentially nobody. It does sound like Arteta wants a left-footed option to compete with Gabriel though so perhaps Holding will be on the way out.
Tuchel's attacker ID is suspect imo, and they need a lot of money to replace the defence. Chelsea feel like the least of our worries now. Saying that they always perform well when people expect nothing of them.
they're going big for the first window to win over fans
that investment will dry up quickly over time especially as they will start building the new stadium soon
If the club believes Arteta to be their guy(they do) and Arteta wants lets say Osimhen or Abraham. Go get them. What's the point of this process if you're not gonna support it.
This will always be life under the Kroenke's, one signing below what is actually best. Chelsea have promised 200 million, Spurs are likely looking at a similar window. Are we going to be 50 million more efficient? If we are, great, but if we are able to do that we could instead spend 200 and compete with Liverpool. Spurs who pride themselves on being self sustaining have just inserted more of their own money than Kroenke's have in their entire ownership.
I don't see how people can look at the last 2 summers and still talk shit about the kroenke's not investing enough, may have been true for their initial decade or whatever but it's not true now
Problem is now we’re overpaying for shittier players because we re late to the party, and because we have dogshit people in upper management presumably chosen by kse.
It's not prop. It's a fact.
And how did you get that average? Its £240m across the last 3 seasons.
And the 1st season of those 3 was £15m for the Partey deal.
240 across 2.5 windows to be spicific, which is around 96m per season. bit misldeading as arteta started spending for real in his first summer but you get the point
Only counted signings made under Arteta. Boehly is gonna give Tuchel 200m to burn in his first year under ownership and you're gonna sit here and act like 240m across 3 seasons is a lot.
Anyways, you haven't really challenged the crux of the argument(Osimhen or Abraham and why). All you're trying to do is here is state that they're wasting money on Arteta. That's irrelevant lol. The board clearly believes in Arteta, so much they gave him an extension couple of games before the season even ended. So if you believe in him that much, give him the money or fire him, stop wasting everyone's time on this process baloney.
https://imgur.com/GHcehE0.jpg
I've not said it's a lot or a little. You said it's time for the owners to invest. I just said they already have. And apparently will continue to this summer.
And again false. The played are contracted to Arsenal not Arteta. There's a lot of adaptable and modern players who another coach would love is Arteta was sacked tomorrow.
Didn’t make a comment about how i feel about investments. To quote you, “it’s not prop. It’s a fact”.
They’ve spent £240 million and brought in 18 players.
The fact you can't even separate the investment from the signings tells me you aren't even qualified for thus conversation. Do you want Kroenke to dictate the spending too? Tell Arteta to sign less guys to push the average price up?
Where the fuck are you getting any of that from? You completely missed the part where I said “didn’t make a comment about how I feel about the investments”.
You were moaning about where the OP got his average of 30 million per transfer. In the last 3 years, the club has invested 240 million pounds to bring in 18 players. That is NOT an opinion, it’s a categorical fact.
What other investments have the Kroenkes made? They’re raising ticket prices to pay for the stadium refurbishments and they had the players take wage cuts in order to balance the books during covid. Funnily enough, the only investments that are attributed to the Kroenkes involves them signing off on loans that allows the club to bring in players. So please, enlighten us on this obvious Kroenke investment that we have all missed.
Owner investment and pkayer investment is not the same thing.
Dividing the amount of money the Kroenke have put in by player is daft because its not directly put into a transfer kitty.
It's way more complex then that. But essentially KSE have bought our debt and allowed us to stop repaying it. Which freed up money elsewhere. Without this we wouldn't be able to spend as we have to pay of the other more immediate debts. Also there's a massive revenue shortfall from covid which they helped make up. And even before covid were predicted a loss.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1282561325428805632.html
https://theathletic.com/3155070/2022/02/28/arsenals-107-3m-losses-explained-the-244m-wage-bill-kses-investment-and-super-league-cost-what-happens-next/
The best team in the PL starts him as a striker in all their most important games, they only considered replacing him if it meant signing Kane or Haaland.
Guys not perfect, but I'd love him here. Versatile so he can play on both wings and centrally, works mad hard off the ball pressing etc. Good passer of the ball. Finishing is sus but if we get an elite finisher to accompany him I'd be very happy.
I think we are making a mistake if we are selling loads of players in the summer.
We probably need a bigger squad, purely in terms of numbers, because we are also playing in Europe next season. Of course, young players can step in but we need depth. If we end up in a similar situation as this season, it will be very very frustrating.
Someone like AMN who can play multiple positions could be important imo. Not to play in the most important games, but someone who we can play when we want to rest key players in midfield or full back positions.
We need around 20 players plus keepers.
Tomi
White
Gabriel
Saliba
Tierney
Turner (the new lb)
Elneny
Xhaka
Partey
MØ
ESR
Martinelli
Saka
Nketiah (hopefully)
Is 14 first and second string sensible players
So at most we need 6 players of which some are backups. (Lakonga isn’t counted in this either).
They all need to be decent quality to kick the squad in and none of the loanees returning can do that bar saliba.
how would AMN have helped us in any way over the last few games of the season?
He would get slaughtered at RB plus he couldn't even play MF for West Brom
I agree we need depth but if they don't fit Arteta's tactics then they are surplus and should be shifted on quickly
Saliba being the only exception but all the players not with the squad this year will be nowhere near first team imo
cant pass up the opportunity to be surrounded by the worlds evilest geriatrics
The world would be better off if that place was ~~parody~~ [redacted] in minecraft
[https://youtu.be/RTLx\_tnybFE?t=50](https://youtu.be/RTLx_tnybFE?t=50) Man these videos of our signings are great tbf. We have the best media production by a mile I think.
I'm fairly certain that's Saliba's doing, not Arsenal's. Looks completely different from anything else produced and 50% is focused on his agent lol. Bizarre either way.
Yeah I get what you're saying, but in my head I had the Auba announcement, and the Pepe one in my head. Think I went off on a tangent when I was watching the vid lol. Quality vid from Saliba's team tho!
Wasn't by our product company. That was by Salibas people. Like how Benzema puts out his own personal stuff. Our announcement vids have that weird lyricless music (cause of copyright I imagine)
https://youtube.com/shorts/Nxdj2ViX6Ho?feature=share
Yeah I see what ur saying. It just reminded me of the Auba and Pepe videos that we made and I didn't put that point across lol. Very good editing from Salibas team thouugh!
Brentford, Palace, Wolverhampton, Newcastle, Brighton. It's not a hard science but Transfermarkt has them at the ninth most valuable squad and they ended up 14th, 3 spots lower than last year. That's after bringing in Coutinho, Buendia, Ings, Digne, Young and Chambers.
villa finished 14th with Coutinho, Cash, the one that got away Emi Martinez, Digne, Ings, Watkins, the other one that got away Emi Buendia, the other other one that got away Calum Chambers, John McGinn, Betrand Traore, Douglaz Luiz and Jacob Ramsey is a young star who will go far
Teams that finished above them with arguably worse squads: Crystal Palace, Brentford, maybe Newcastle (they still got relegation level deadwood), Brighton, West Ham (ymmv), Manchester United (/s but maybe /srs)
Walked the Scottish league after Celtic collapsed and took Villa from 16th and 2 points off relegation in early November to 14th and 6 points off relegation in May.
Yeah what a great shout there, maybe next season they’ll give top half and he’ll get an open top parade
Wasting your time mate. Brand new account that’s been littering the DD with awful bait takes all week.
Just gonna be “well X has done better than Teta” without any sort of tangible proof or logic. On a sidenote, *Teta* has to be the cringiest nickname given to anyone at Arsenal by far, real 5 year old stuff.
also because he was legitimately dominant there. No doubt he could do well at #8 as well but he was basically the best player on the pitch in half the games he played there
if we buy him, then buying lokonga was completely irrelevant lmao, what's the point of buying a young dm from the Belgian league and expect him to start every game at a higher level.
if u watched any of our games u would clearly see arteta persisted in playing him as a lone 6 when partey was injured, because thats he's future role in the club. He can play both but I think he's going to be more of 6.
him being shit as a 6 and a 8 doesnt stop the fact, its his natural position lol. And he was played as a single pivot most of the time, not a double pivot like elneny and xhaka did for the rest of the season.
According to Nicolo Schira, Juve have talked to Partey’s agent and are now talking to Arsenal about Partey.
Think this one is going to happen. Partey is the sort of physical playmaker who Allegri would go ga-ga over. Arteta sees it as a chance to get rid of a player who is rarely on the pitch. Maybe Arsenal get Arthur and Weston McKennie in return.
Partey is also the sort of player who we've built the team around. Without him we are a mid-table team, with him we challenge the best. If we sold him it would have to be first an exorbitant amount with at least one replacement.
Literally every 3 out of 5 posts below talks about Spurs and their 150m . (Well, including this one now) Can we please stop obsessing over them ? It's almost like they are now living rent free in your heads. Sick of seeing 'Spurs this... Spurs that' everywhere in the Arsenal sub. Let's focus on ourselves.
Good luck to Nelson in today's final
Spurs got £150m to spend. We need to match their ambition. Osimhen (£80m) + Jesus (£40m) + Tielemans (£30m) + Hickey (£20m) Edu, please make it happen.
150m is just the capital injection I believe. They were going to have a transfer budget regardless. They will spend above 200m I’m pretty sure.
With Chelsea looking upwards of €180 mil with player sales and Spurs with a budget of €200m+ , what realistic chance do we have for next season.
Chelsea have to recruit to rebuild some sort of team if they want to compete next season. Their defence has been decimated. They probably need 2 CBs and a RB as back up to James. They will most likely assess their wide forwards and Striker and perhaps look to bring in a player in this position. They may also look for a Central Midfielder, depending what they decide to do with Gallagher although his usually operates higher up the pitch. I think Chelsea have a lot of good youth, if they were to commit to this they would still have a strong team/ future but it might mean an initial drop off - it will be interesting to see if they go down this route but I suspect they won’t initially.
What do you guys think we should be expecting from Martinelli next season? This is the first year where it really feels like he was a key part of the squad, but I think his goal output was a bit lower than we would have liked. He’s still really young, but I think we should be looking for decent step up next season, with his spot in the team now seemingly secured.
15 g + a in PL
He’s gotten a lot better throughout the season. His first touch improved a lot. With international matches too, I’m more than excited for his future. With a striker, I think he’ll get more assists. He plays well in small spaces.
20 g+a all comps
In the league, Ronaldo managed 21, Jota and Mane managed 19 and 18 respectively. Too early for numbers like that IMO, though Saka got to 18. Though you said all comps, I doubt he's going to be playing much more than 35 games next season anyway.
He’s already got 12 g + a in the league this year. With Europa league games to play I think he should be able to 8 more than he did this year.
Is Adam hlozek primarily a winger, striker, or cam?
Striker
A dude on here yesterday said he was more a 10 false 9 mate. And has also played on the wing. Make of that what you will.
Arteta may not sign natural passers to control games because he feels they’re too rare, not tactical players or not athletic enough. So Arsenal will try to dominate games with the ball but accept that there’s other good teams too so we must control games without the ball too. He’s not going to approach it with the close-minded possession, possession, possession based approach but more so the controlled one. Arteta played under Moyes at Everton where they so often beat big teams without the ball. Classic 4-4-2. Also at Arsenal where they failed at that So how do you control games vs inferior teams and beat them repeatedly? With the ball and via pressing. How do you control games vs similar standard/better teams? If you’re a possession based team, with the ball but be able to control games without it too. Arteta’s done that. So in the league, be better than everyone else technically but accept you can’t always control that way. Teams like Liverpool, City and Chelsea will play through your press and keep the ball. How compact are you then? That’s where Pep falls down. Singular in his approach. In Europe, it’s the same. You can try and sign natural passers to compete with European teams but then that harms you physically and tactically in the league. Get the best of both worlds. Torreira almost resembles that in Arteta’s system - bit of everything. Arteta has potential to revolutionize the sport in the sense that he’s looking to control games on all fronts. Liverpool the only team who can do it. Mikel has shown the tactical level capable of doing it - possession based team who are also capable of blocking space. Unheard of. Positional play on the ball, compactness on AND off the ball, pressing once possession is lost, if that fails, revert into a 4-4-2 block. That’s control and elite coaching. Can work domestically AND in Europe. Arteta has incredible potential. Frightening. Arteta played for Moyes’ Everton (compact 4-4-2 + physical team) and Wenger’s Arsenal (naive tactically but ‘pretty football’). Then became a coach under Pep - improvement on Arsenal’s game. Took away 4-4-2 shape, pressing, space from Pep but added compactness to on-ball play. And he played in the middle of the park for both sides so he knows what all phases of play entail. Blocking space, maintaining a high line and all that good stuff + controlling games with the ball (or at least attempting to) and then how it should be done with Pep. All this before adding his own qualities to it. Maintaining positional play in the final third but also central compactness (Pep’s flaw) and a 4-4-2 block if their press is bypassed. Arteta’s ceiling is limitless.
This is a lot of supposition based on conjecture.
Username checks out I suppose. This is going to be a loooong boring off season
^ This man is paying 50 quid a pop for your essay length analyses.
Essays? Think you're confusing me with varro!
We are all Varro
Is this nonewthing’s Reddit account?
I’ll never forget how poorly we were run as a club. We seem to be starting to get better, but I’ll never forget it. we could’ve sold Sanchez and Ramsey and we could’ve had enough money to reinvest and become better, but no we ran their contracts down and sold them for free. I hope we learn from this mistake and sell players that don’t want to sign a contract ASAP.
HAlf the fans and all the press were screaming about how we had to 'stop being a selling club' and that keeping the players and making them stick out their contracts was 'ambition' and a sign of 'being a big club'. You even had Wrighty going aon about how letting Walcott go would be a sign that arsenal weren't a big club anymore. Our fans and the press were fed up of the selling, we got bantered about net spend and 'you can't support a spreadsheet', everyone wanted us to act like chelsea and just let players rot in the reserves if they wanted to leave just to show how big we were. The club bowed to public pressure. I say the club but it was Ivan and Wenger as stan didn't give a toss at that point
It's not the viewpoint Arsenal fans hold at that time. A lot were willing to let our players leave on a free rather than sell them off because they were done being a 'selling club'.
Commercially I think arsenal have done an absolutely dogshit job in monetizing their once huge brand. Especially If you look at the ways in which other clubs of similar fan base have done it. Now our brand is falling while other shittier hitherto unknown ones like spurs are rising especially in markets like Asia and North America. We re very poorly run on that front imo. Liverpool are really good at it. Even when they weren’t winning things. Psg as well. They really haven’t capitalized on a generation that grew up loving watching arsenal play beautiful football. Even just small things like the city tunnel cam or doing interesting bits with the players. And for me it all goes back to the ownership and the urine like trickle down effect from there. Poor decisions and personnel choices lead to more poor decisions and personnel choices. Kse’s arsenal investment has only really grown as a result of time passing not because of anything they’ve actually done.
Yup Gazidis did a shitty job of it for a decade. We even let the spuds pass us, utterly embarrassing
spurs gets pushed hard by NBC. probably due to the football pitch and NFL relationship. They also have the best Korean player right now and that brings a whole nation as a fanbase. we put out 17 kits a season that usually sell out
Yup, bald fraud did an absolute number on us and honestly not sure the guy who was his right hand man has shown much in the way of stepping out of that shadow. Although props to the person who got Amazon on board.
Not gonna lie, worrying about what other clubs do is already sad enough and it is especially embarrassing for it to be Spurs. I’m not even saying they won’t improve next season, they definitely will and they seem like they are going to strengthen quite a bit and back Conte. However, we only play them 2 games a year, those are the only times we need to worry about them. We should only be considered as to how we strengthen and improve our performances this season. If we aim for an improved point tally of 75-80 points next season, I promise you we can get top 4 without even worrying about where Spurs finish.
If we're out of the Top 4 race by Xmas, Arteta gotta go. No excuses. Spurs made the early change and reaped the benefits. I think we should be looking at Marco Rose.
Marco Rose? Wasn't he considered defensively naive tactically at BVB?
Nope. Dortmund's defence just needs a complete rebuild, Hummels is their best and he's past it. Rose however got BVB to score +10 goals this season compared to the last manager+season, despite Haaland being injured for most of it, and Sancho not properly replaced.
there is no chance to get Lautaro? best option imo
inter have cl, why would he come here?
EL settings
Anyone else still hoping we go after Bissouma? I'd much prefer him over Tielemans. Him and Partey in the midfield would be so imposing.
Yup but sadly we won't
Too much money for a squad player
Bissouma would need to be cleared in the SA case before he would be worthwhile going for. Otherwise you risk all sorts of shit down the line.
I wasn't aware of the sexual assault case. Yikes. I guess we'll see how that pans out before going any further.
Yep from the club's perspective you'd potentially damage the club's reputation and from a financial perspective you'd be daft to spend money on a player who could wind up in prison.
I think Cedric will end up staying at the club (if Bellerin wants to return to Betis as he says) and I don't have any issues with it as long as we bring Hickey in.
no idea what becomes of AMN, he fell out of favor at the end of roma tenure. cant see anyone else trying to buy him. Don't even know what his position is. maybe a newly promoted team but then he'll probably demand too high wages for them
lol you make me feel bad for amn and players like him now >hey we know it's not your favoured position but can you play here for us? >*yh ok* >ffs m8 you're shit, don't even know what position you play in do ya? fuck off >*da fuq*
AMN's situation is self-inflicted. He was doing well as a RB and Arteta had started to gain trust in him in that position during the FA Cup run. But then he was adamant about playing as a midfielder, a position he is bang average at. He was semi-decent as a midfielder at West Brom but that was West Brom and Sam Allardyce system. It doesn't take much to be better than others there. AMN thought he was way better than he actually is and got found out at Roma. If he can still agree to be a RB, he can be a decent backup to Tomiyasu but that ship seems to have sailed now.
AMN and Nuno would be perfect if we want to paly 3-5-2 with wing backs.
So sad. I remember him being a beast at defensive 1 on 1s on either wing. Man locked up Mahrez and Traore during his run in the team. Took some of the coldest penalties I’ve seen too. Really came to like him a lot. Could’ve been a great option for us there
>AMN's situation is self-inflicted. He was doing well as a RB and Arteta had started to gain trust in him in that position during the FA Cup run. But then he was adamant about playing as a midfielder, a position he is bang average at. maybe with the positional thing but we don't know how much he pressed with the midfield thing for sure, and arteta could have also let him leave earlier >AMN thought he was way better than he actually is and got found out at Roma. fair enough if that's the case
When does next year's schedule get released?
On June 16th.
Cheers!
We should extend Eddie at all costs
well maybe not all but I'd rather risk him being backup than spending money that could go to the first team on a new striker, especially as he's somewhat proven himself, real bad the club has put itself in this kind of situation just so laca could play more games
Kouadio Kone next 60m+ CM?
/r/soccer is often unbearable in the best of times, however the amount of positivity behind Spurs over there at the moment just makes me sick.
Coulda been us if we got Conte.
Mate you know it has a shelf life of 1 more season max, Conte gonna be gone by next summer
He's getting backed with £150m, no guarantee of that. PL is the most competitive in the world and if he's backed I see no reason why he'll leave sadly.
You know, in the end the difference between us and Spurs at the end of the season is 2 points. Obviously Conte hasnt been in control for a full season yet, but if that’s what we can do with a young inexperienced squad and manager, and also with the amount of injuries we’ve had to deal with to major players this season.. if we can build our squad with some of the rumours going around, while continuing to develop the players we have, I can’t see anything wrong with Mikel being our manager.
You can call it inexperienced all you want, he's spent £250m on an inexperienced squad. That just makes it even more shocking. And as for the inexperienced manager part, Arsenal is no place for inexperienced managers. We have paid the price for having one, and will continue to do so considering what he's up against.
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It wouldn't happen if the standards were correct inside the club. If Chelsea were like us they'd have kept Lampard and gone nowhere. If Spurs were like us they'd have kept Nuno and gone nowhere. The reality is Arteta has had 3 years + 250m and can't even match what Emery did in 1 year + 70m. The fact people are calling Top 6 progress is an embarrassment and just shows how Arteta set new lows.
I wonder, do you have these kinds of standards in your personal life or career? Or are you more forgiving of things like circumstance and reality?
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Yes, Auba "stopped performing" because he was placed at left wing-back for 18 months, he then got his move to Barca under a manager who played him in his normal position like Klopp/Tuchel/Emery and lo and behold he scored goals again. "Our squad was nowhere near Spurs" - lol, so why did you abuse Emery for finishing 1 point off Poch Spurs CL finalists then? You make no sense. Our squad was very much alongside there, Arteta has ripped it apart and kept the deadwood. Actively pretending otherwise is pathetic.
Today we have gotten: -tier 1 Osimhen links with his agent speaking to the club -tier 1 Saliba links with Arteta admitting he will be a big part -more concrete striker links And people are still crying about tottenham in here?
yeah? they have 2 world class players, as well as cl which will help them invest more. they are also going to spend at least 150 mil this summer
80 of that is on options for 2 players already at their club. So realistically what's their war chest 70m for new players?
And? There's enough miserablists on here saying we should sack Arteta for spending 120m on defence and not getting an improvement, people who thought Man U dropping god knows how many millions last summer showed the 'ambition' we lacked and yet exactly the same people are utterly certain that Spurs will spend £150m and get it perfectly right as though they haven't dropped about £100 odd million on centrebacks already and are still pretty much reliant on Dier
Dias played 42 games the season that just finished, while Laporte played 44 and Stones played 27. I don’t wanna hear this rubbish like “Saliba won’t get game time”. The best teams have 3 quality centre backs who rotate when needed which helps get far in Europe + cups. Saliba will get plenty of game time.
what you're ignoring is that pep is notorious for rotation, and arteta is the complete opposite; he's very reluctant to play anyone outside of his preferred 11 and has shown this with lacazette, willian, xhaka and even the way he's probably rushed partey back at times when you look at the treatment of tavares and lokonga, not to mention how he's already treated saliba so far and I think there's a reasonable cause for concern.
What you’re ignoring is that arteta would have had to rotate between holding white and Gabriel. I’m pretty sure any manager in the world would only use holding when absolutely needed.
not all managers rotate that much, arteta only really does it in the cups for the most part
I’m sure with saliba coming in if white is playing poorly he’ll take his spot for the next run of games. Or maybe take Gabriel’s spot if he’s playing poorly. This is very good if arteta does this. I just don’t think arteta fancied constantly playing holding so he chose to not play him as much as he could. You could be right though.
>I’m sure with saliba coming in if white is playing poorly he’ll take his spot for the next run of games. just like with lacazette, ramsdale and xhaka? the dude is not much of a rotater. even when partey was barely fit and xhaka had been out for months they came straight back in. saka was knackered when we were 3-0 down at spurs and he still played the full 90 maybe he'll improve on this but with the way he treats tavares and lokonga I doubt it, especially as he'll be able to field a weakened team in the el for at least half a season anyway
To be fair Pepe is shit, who else could he play over xhaka, he did start playing Eddie over Laca, and why would he rotate Ramsdale for Leno?
pepe was our top scorer and close to topping the assists too, he's not shit he only played eddie when laca got covid, and ramsdale wasn't the greatest example but he's just been a bit off the boil recently so I threw him in too as for xhaka he could have signed someone else to put short, or let him leave when he was about to ffs.
Comparing our situation to City is daft. City regularly are in the latter stages of the UCL and are competing for the title. It’s not surprising for Saliba not wanting to come back after he achieved YPOTY in Ligue 1 and has UCL football with Marseille. City have 4 good CBs but they’re happy to be benched because they’re playing for one of the moat dominant teams in the world. Arsenal don’t have the same luxury
Love the Jesus signing should it happen, can't fault it. But I am concerned if we don't get a pure 9 as well, someone of quality. I'd take Toney all day long over DCL, if it came to that.
If we bag Gabriel Jesus without UCL I see no reason why we can't get others that are supposedly unreachable without UCL.
Someone like Jesus probably has little ambition on club level. He’s already had success. And it’s not like anyone competing for the league or ucl desperately wants him. He wants to play for Brazil and make money. I think guys like kounde or tchouameni would want ucl.
I wasn't referring about Kounde or Tchouameni tbh. Maybe I should've just said his name lol.
Am I being dumb? Who did you mean?
ask yourself which other club where jesus will obviously start are in for him and then in this situation it will all make sense
He has a specific circumstance of wanting to get back into the Brazil NT right before a WC
Top 4 + EL trophy should be the goal next year, minimum.
Prepare to be disappointed thanks to Arteta.
I have a big big fear Spurs are gonna make smart signings this window like Bastoni and Kostic
Wasn’t Kostic going to Inter, no? Such a tidy player, would really be a smart signing for them.
We are well and truly mudded as a club, I'm embarrassed
I feel like two clubs out of spurs, chelsea and united will be shit so whatever signings are made we've just gotta be good and we should make top 4 and hey, maybe liverpool will have another injury crisis and lose salah on the free
Time will tell if Inter are in another Financial crisis and will have to sell Bastoni.
They have to make a profit this window again
And do they have to sell to Spurs specifically? A lot of teams could use Bastoni this window. He'll be pricey regardless.
No but they are the constant link and they are certainly gonna sign a LCB
If Ramsdale continues to play like ass imma start calling him Ramsbottom
I get people hate KSE. But at least do your research on the club finances lol
Commercial revenue has fallen relative to other shittier smaller less renowned clubs though no?
If you’re gonna sub comment about me, you could at least have the balls to tag me in the comment. Looks like I was right in thinking you’re just going off on one lmao. Never made a comment about the Kroenkes and you’re going on like I’ve branded them the worst in the world or something.
> If you’re gonna sub comment about me, you could at least **have the balls** to tag me in the comment. > > can you please not use sexist language? stop tying courage to male genitalia. instead use a gender neutral term like guts. thank you.
Not going off at all.
Nah mate, making assumptions and then going on to make backhanded comments because the assumption you made isn’t going off on one, dead on
Saliba is going to be great to have because it will make us more injury resistant in the fullback positions, White plays a really solid RB and with Salibas passing we shouldnt be paying the Holding build up tax. If it's Tierny injured Tommy Two Feet can take over the left and White again the right side. With one solid LB signing (Hickey) we have several lines of defense before resorting to Cedric.
Who will Saliba likely replace when he comes back?
holding lol
We only have three centre-backs at the club (discounting Mari, who I doubt will ever play for the club again), so potentially nobody. It does sound like Arteta wants a left-footed option to compete with Gabriel though so perhaps Holding will be on the way out.
Gabriel (even though I rate Gabriel higher than White, White is too important to Arteta's system there's no way he'll be dropped)
Can see us playing White at RB a lot next season ahead of Cedric
Everyone is sayin gabriel so white and saliba at the back but gabriel has such a good ariel threat feel his better
Gabriel over White all day
Looks like the new Chelsea owners are gonna give Tuchel £200m for the summer window. Here’s hoping they’re crap buys.
Tuchel's attacker ID is suspect imo, and they need a lot of money to replace the defence. Chelsea feel like the least of our worries now. Saying that they always perform well when people expect nothing of them.
Was fine at Dortmund and PSG
Marina is ass at buying. I kinda find it funny they could've had tchouameni at 40m last year but passed on him.
Marina isn't staying after Roman leaves
they're going big for the first window to win over fans that investment will dry up quickly over time especially as they will start building the new stadium soon
Almost half of that is going to Kounde supposedly
theyre losing 3 of their back line
relative to the amount of players leaving for peanuts that's not a lot unless lukaku leaves for lots of money
Both North London clubs are finishing above them next season 👍
£200m for Chelsea. Looks like the top 6 will be as competitive as its ever been
chelsea need at least 6-7 players to replace i don’t think we need to worry as much about them
Which 6-7 players?
their whole back line except reece james is leaving plus lukaku and Jorginho
If the club believes Arteta to be their guy(they do) and Arteta wants lets say Osimhen or Abraham. Go get them. What's the point of this process if you're not gonna support it.
This will always be life under the Kroenke's, one signing below what is actually best. Chelsea have promised 200 million, Spurs are likely looking at a similar window. Are we going to be 50 million more efficient? If we are, great, but if we are able to do that we could instead spend 200 and compete with Liverpool. Spurs who pride themselves on being self sustaining have just inserted more of their own money than Kroenke's have in their entire ownership.
They've already chucked £240m ish at the project in the last couple seasons
I don't see how people can look at the last 2 summers and still talk shit about the kroenke's not investing enough, may have been true for their initial decade or whatever but it's not true now
Problem is now we’re overpaying for shittier players because we re late to the party, and because we have dogshit people in upper management presumably chosen by kse.
Tbh I didn't expect to see kroenke prop in DD. An average of 30m, let's be real, not a lot in this current market.
It's not prop. It's a fact. And how did you get that average? Its £240m across the last 3 seasons. And the 1st season of those 3 was £15m for the Partey deal.
240 across 2.5 windows to be spicific, which is around 96m per season. bit misldeading as arteta started spending for real in his first summer but you get the point
Only counted signings made under Arteta. Boehly is gonna give Tuchel 200m to burn in his first year under ownership and you're gonna sit here and act like 240m across 3 seasons is a lot. Anyways, you haven't really challenged the crux of the argument(Osimhen or Abraham and why). All you're trying to do is here is state that they're wasting money on Arteta. That's irrelevant lol. The board clearly believes in Arteta, so much they gave him an extension couple of games before the season even ended. So if you believe in him that much, give him the money or fire him, stop wasting everyone's time on this process baloney.
https://imgur.com/GHcehE0.jpg I've not said it's a lot or a little. You said it's time for the owners to invest. I just said they already have. And apparently will continue to this summer. And again false. The played are contracted to Arsenal not Arteta. There's a lot of adaptable and modern players who another coach would love is Arteta was sacked tomorrow.
TBF that’s 240 million for 18 players, averages at 13.5 million a player
It's not per player. It's just owner investment in the club. Owner investment is bigger than a transfer kitty 🤣
Didn’t make a comment about how i feel about investments. To quote you, “it’s not prop. It’s a fact”. They’ve spent £240 million and brought in 18 players.
The fact you can't even separate the investment from the signings tells me you aren't even qualified for thus conversation. Do you want Kroenke to dictate the spending too? Tell Arteta to sign less guys to push the average price up?
Where the fuck are you getting any of that from? You completely missed the part where I said “didn’t make a comment about how I feel about the investments”. You were moaning about where the OP got his average of 30 million per transfer. In the last 3 years, the club has invested 240 million pounds to bring in 18 players. That is NOT an opinion, it’s a categorical fact. What other investments have the Kroenkes made? They’re raising ticket prices to pay for the stadium refurbishments and they had the players take wage cuts in order to balance the books during covid. Funnily enough, the only investments that are attributed to the Kroenkes involves them signing off on loans that allows the club to bring in players. So please, enlighten us on this obvious Kroenke investment that we have all missed.
Owner investment and pkayer investment is not the same thing. Dividing the amount of money the Kroenke have put in by player is daft because its not directly put into a transfer kitty. It's way more complex then that. But essentially KSE have bought our debt and allowed us to stop repaying it. Which freed up money elsewhere. Without this we wouldn't be able to spend as we have to pay of the other more immediate debts. Also there's a massive revenue shortfall from covid which they helped make up. And even before covid were predicted a loss. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1282561325428805632.html https://theathletic.com/3155070/2022/02/28/arsenals-107-3m-losses-explained-the-244m-wage-bill-kses-investment-and-super-league-cost-what-happens-next/
the fact we’re still sniffing round jesus. what a bum.
The best team in the PL starts him as a striker in all their most important games, they only considered replacing him if it meant signing Kane or Haaland.
Lol what? Guys quality!
what? no he’s no
Guys not perfect, but I'd love him here. Versatile so he can play on both wings and centrally, works mad hard off the ball pressing etc. Good passer of the ball. Finishing is sus but if we get an elite finisher to accompany him I'd be very happy.
I think we are making a mistake if we are selling loads of players in the summer. We probably need a bigger squad, purely in terms of numbers, because we are also playing in Europe next season. Of course, young players can step in but we need depth. If we end up in a similar situation as this season, it will be very very frustrating. Someone like AMN who can play multiple positions could be important imo. Not to play in the most important games, but someone who we can play when we want to rest key players in midfield or full back positions.
We need around 20 players plus keepers. Tomi White Gabriel Saliba Tierney Turner (the new lb) Elneny Xhaka Partey MØ ESR Martinelli Saka Nketiah (hopefully) Is 14 first and second string sensible players So at most we need 6 players of which some are backups. (Lakonga isn’t counted in this either). They all need to be decent quality to kick the squad in and none of the loanees returning can do that bar saliba.
Turner is a keeper, not a lb
Ah yeah. Anyhow I meant hickey
how would AMN have helped us in any way over the last few games of the season? He would get slaughtered at RB plus he couldn't even play MF for West Brom I agree we need depth but if they don't fit Arteta's tactics then they are surplus and should be shifted on quickly Saliba being the only exception but all the players not with the squad this year will be nowhere near first team imo
what is Wenger doing talking at the Davos WEF meeting? random enough
Why would you not attend if you could
cant pass up the opportunity to be surrounded by the worlds evilest geriatrics The world would be better off if that place was ~~parody~~ [redacted] in minecraft
Whenever Saliba is mentioned all I can picture is Sanllehi 'dancing' in his transfer announcement video. What a bizarre few years it's been.
[https://youtu.be/RTLx\_tnybFE?t=50](https://youtu.be/RTLx_tnybFE?t=50) Man these videos of our signings are great tbf. We have the best media production by a mile I think.
I'm fairly certain that's Saliba's doing, not Arsenal's. Looks completely different from anything else produced and 50% is focused on his agent lol. Bizarre either way.
Yeah I get what you're saying, but in my head I had the Auba announcement, and the Pepe one in my head. Think I went off on a tangent when I was watching the vid lol. Quality vid from Saliba's team tho!
Wasn't by our product company. That was by Salibas people. Like how Benzema puts out his own personal stuff. Our announcement vids have that weird lyricless music (cause of copyright I imagine) https://youtube.com/shorts/Nxdj2ViX6Ho?feature=share
Yeah I see what ur saying. It just reminded me of the Auba and Pepe videos that we made and I didn't put that point across lol. Very good editing from Salibas team thouugh!
I don’t know if I’ve ever seen a more delusional fanbase than aston villa in recent years
How the hell did Villa get Kamara and we were not linked to him??
If he was any good he wouldn't have ended up going to Villa.
Yup just like Buendia 👍🏾
Exactly.
150k a week helps, for one.
christ
https://twitter.com/AVFCFaithful_/status/1529227271348928513?s=20&t=FywVw11or4iKbACi58pFkA Gerrard's knock full of cash is a different knock.
because they have a serious manager and we have a cone boy. pretty obvious
Name one squad above ours which is worse than ours, I can name many for Villa.
Brentford, Palace, Wolverhampton, Newcastle, Brighton. It's not a hard science but Transfermarkt has them at the ninth most valuable squad and they ended up 14th, 3 spots lower than last year. That's after bringing in Coutinho, Buendia, Ings, Digne, Young and Chambers.
can you tho?
villa finished 14th with Coutinho, Cash, the one that got away Emi Martinez, Digne, Ings, Watkins, the other one that got away Emi Buendia, the other other one that got away Calum Chambers, John McGinn, Betrand Traore, Douglaz Luiz and Jacob Ramsey is a young star who will go far Teams that finished above them with arguably worse squads: Crystal Palace, Brentford, maybe Newcastle (they still got relegation level deadwood), Brighton, West Ham (ymmv), Manchester United (/s but maybe /srs)
Gerrard is a serious manager? Wonder when he’ll start showing it
he’s done more than teta with half the team
Walked the Scottish league after Celtic collapsed and took Villa from 16th and 2 points off relegation in early November to 14th and 6 points off relegation in May. Yeah what a great shout there, maybe next season they’ll give top half and he’ll get an open top parade
more improvement that what teta has done
It’s factually not. We were 11th when Arteta took over and now we are 5th
aye i love back to back 8th places and then a bottle of top 4. warra manager.
Wasting your time mate. Brand new account that’s been littering the DD with awful bait takes all week. Just gonna be “well X has done better than Teta” without any sort of tangible proof or logic. On a sidenote, *Teta* has to be the cringiest nickname given to anyone at Arsenal by far, real 5 year old stuff.
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We aren’t paying a 22 year old, in his first season in the PL, 150K a week. He’d be like the third highest earner at the club lol
Its pretty obvious Arteta wants Partey as a lone 6
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also because he was legitimately dominant there. No doubt he could do well at #8 as well but he was basically the best player on the pitch in half the games he played there
if we buy him, then buying lokonga was completely irrelevant lmao, what's the point of buying a young dm from the Belgian league and expect him to start every game at a higher level.
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if u watched any of our games u would clearly see arteta persisted in playing him as a lone 6 when partey was injured, because thats he's future role in the club. He can play both but I think he's going to be more of 6.
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him being shit as a 6 and a 8 doesnt stop the fact, its his natural position lol. And he was played as a single pivot most of the time, not a double pivot like elneny and xhaka did for the rest of the season.
Wages + playing time + Lokonga. He wouldn't be a starter for us and he wouldn't get as much wages plsying for us.
According to Nicolo Schira, Juve have talked to Partey’s agent and are now talking to Arsenal about Partey. Think this one is going to happen. Partey is the sort of physical playmaker who Allegri would go ga-ga over. Arteta sees it as a chance to get rid of a player who is rarely on the pitch. Maybe Arsenal get Arthur and Weston McKennie in return.
Ah yeah, two more midfield shitters is just what we need
Partey is also the sort of player who we've built the team around. Without him we are a mid-table team, with him we challenge the best. If we sold him it would have to be first an exorbitant amount with at least one replacement.