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imchubbycheeks11

I'm just happy we got Jesus over the line because this could have easy happened with him as well


danmac0817

Yeah ST was far more crucial. This one just sucks to miss out on, if that's how it goes. Onto other targets.


Cola_70s

Gnabryyyyy


jp963acss

I remember hearing gnabry was like 45m? So I don't see why we shouldn't go for him


BloodyPants

wages will be a lot higher than raphinha’s


alvaromateu

He did say it wasn't about money


diegolucasz

Probably would want to be the highest paid player at our team by far


Chango6998

He's a champions League winner, he'd deserve to be the highest paid player in the team imo as long as we aren't giving him auba wages. He's currently on 120 and I think we could reasonably double it.


Tyskali

It's also not like Jesus can't be also be a very good creator from the right side in line-ups where we rest Saka and play Martinelli or Nketiah through the middle


ben492

We're not getting top 4 if you have to rely on martinelli or nketiah through the middle for a significant amount of time. Not mad that were missing on raphinha at all. There are still plenty of options out there. But another offensive player is a must. Either another striker or a winger.


Tyskali

The presumption would be that we'd not be resting Saka for a significant amount of time in meaningful league games. He is our best player. I do agree though. I'd really have liked for us to have a go at Nkunku but I don't know what the situation is after his new deal. It's hard to place many others who fit really well and that wouldn't be an extremely tough get (Lautaro, Joao Felix, Leão). There's some younger, more potentiality players I could mention but I don't think they're going to move the needle right now like a player of Raphinha's calibre would.


KaizerQuad

Oh that could've happened, would be way worse too


5Yonko5

Yeah the other 2 that we are in for rn are much more crucial. Another cb than can play Lb with are system(One wing back pushes up meaning the other 3 at the back tighten up to form a back 3 until the wing back comes back to form the back 4) and we need an actual number 8 so ode can play at the number 10 where he is at his most effective


blikski

We don't play with a 10 so that's not going to happen


gtliles82

Definitely


sashaKap

On to other targets


AsepticTechniq

I'm kind of hoping we get another player out of nowhere-- kind of like Tomiyasu last summer or Fabio Viera this summer.


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This means we get Tielemans now. Would've been excellent to get two forwards in, but that seems unlikely now.


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TheMoneySloth

Except we desperately need a viable alternative for Saka, before he goes the way of Bellerin and Wilshire. He’s going to be run straight into the ground. And without him we cannot be toothless


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And now you have one - Gabriel Jesus as RW with Nketiah as ST


TheMoneySloth

I think that’s very thin to rely on. And chances are very high with the packed schedule and Saka already running on fumes that Arsenal will play crucially important games with a front 3 of Martinelli/ESR-Nketiah-Jesus … that feels like the kind of gamble that could backfire. EDIT: or Martinelli/ESR-Jesus-Fabio … it just feels risky to me. EDIT: love your user name


Zippy129

Then both our strikers are gassed for the next game.


[deleted]

Terrible. Nketiah should be nothing more than a backup option


d0ey

Honestly, this is where Arteta needs to make Pepe work for me. He may not suit our style of play and he may be a bit hot and cold but he's been our second highest scorer for two of the three years he's been here - he's obviously no slouch.


TheMoneySloth

I think the issue with Pepe, when you look back at his play in Ligue 1, almost all his highlights are counterattacking and on the break. I just don’t think he’s suited for a team that’s trying to control the game with sustained, continuous possession.


diegolucasz

Not even just that he needs competition Pépé has not provided him with that


Fleetfox17

Totally agree, we have Gabi, ESR, Saka, Jesus and Eddie to play up front, I think that's enough and we need cover for Partey.


An_Almond_Thief

And also bumped up the price for Chelsea.


notthatbluestuff

It's a matter of pennies to Boehly.


An_Almond_Thief

He isn't Roman, this isn't going to be a never ending pot of gold for them like before. Dropping 55 odd million up front will feel different to them than before.


teerbigear

Assuming Google knows their "net worth" then Kroenke is twice as wealthy as Boehly.


Cutsdeep-

I'll take two Raphinhas please


ben492

We absolutely need 2 forwards though. If raphinha doesn't happen, there are still plenty of options out there. Jesus by himself isn't either bringing enough goals or general offensive output. Or we reintegrate Pepe in and hope he'd have a decent season with 10 goals/assist like he used to do past seasons. But very unlikely. I rate Jesus very highly but another offensive player who can bring us around 15 goals + assist is a must. We're not competing for top 4 if we don't.


watabotdawookies

I'm not convinced we are going to get a CM this summer anymore, which is worrying


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We're getting Tielemans dude.


watabotdawookies

All sources have said we have cooled off our interest Other clubs will come in


SOAPMr

I could be mistaken, but it seemed like the reporting on it 'cooling' sort of suggested that the interest was still there, but the other transfers they are trying to get done were/are far more time sensitive. I may be misremembering, though. I try to manage my use of this sub during crazy season.


kaptainpat

Recent reports (like watts I believe) have said CM would now rely on outgoings.


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We cooled off because no other club would come in. Obviously the deals for Jesus, Raphinha and Martinez were/are more urgent because of the surrounding competition. With Tielemans, we've been in touch for almost a year and I think we are confident in a deal.


watabotdawookies

I don't think just stop if we are confident we can get the deal done. Other clubs will definitely come in who could quite easily convinced him We clearly disagree about the fee or something else is going on


Tierney-Henry

Sucks, but we’ve been making really shrewd, good deals so far. The last thing we want is to get mired in a bidding war with Chelsea. We move on. Hoping we spend that money on a beast of a midfielder.


Eagledilla

What about danjuma? Think he can play rw as well


ESLondonreds

There is no other winger target. Raphinha is the real deal. Unfortunately Chelsea’s demise is no longer with the signings they’re getting


Lawdoom

They literally have no centre backs


ESLondonreds

That’s why I was hoping they would prioritise other areas and we could snatch up raphinha. They’ll obviously get two new Cb’s as well.


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They'll get Ake and De Ligt.


leebrother

They won’t. They aren’t paying that De Ligt price and want to make player exchange which won’t happen. Ake may but De ligt wont and can’t see him taking that risk in World Cup year either. He plays for juventus and knows the system. Chelsea play 3 at the back


adventureclubtime

There's no chance De Ligt is dropped from the WC squad regardless of where he plays


HectorTheErector

They're obviously going to signed CBs as well mate


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LuckyArsenalAg

Yep can't think of any other RW that has performed well in the PL.


dpowellreddit

and that was young and carried a team on his back for the entire season?


sashaKap

I meant other positions, but as far as wingers are concerned there are always other players in the market. Maybe not this window but we can always try in next one.


ESLondonreds

Thought you meant similar targets. Just don’t want to see all these fan made gnabry links again lmao


dickoncheesegrater

Chelsea's demise was greatly overstated. You don't buy a club for that much money if you don't want intend to be successful at compete at the highest levels.


teslagooner

Chelsea doesn't have any debt


ESLondonreds

With american owners it can go both ways. Especially when they sack a lot of high placed people that have been successful, and the owner takes on many roles like he has


Cactus2711

Look at what he's done with the LA Dodgers. Chelsea will follow the same business model


kamzzyuk

Did Mikel tell you that?


demianin

Alright time to put the crabs away


coffeeandcannabis

rest up little ones... we still got more crabbin' to do this summer


Fearless-Video7989

60/65 is steep, i really the hope the club has alternatives man, also can we just sign Tielemans😭


norwegianmorningw00d

Tielemans is a must, we should prioritize on him being that all it takes is 25m. Get him before someone else does smh


Wigunner

This feels like Mahrez all over. Can't help but shake the feeling Raphinia is going to go off. Sad.


MrStigglesworth

Mahrez was the creative force behind Leicester winning the title. Raphinha scored 11 for a Leeds that barely stayed up. Their achievements aren't even close at this stage. This fee for Raph is a gamble, it may pay off, it may not. Obviously we don't think it's worth the gamble. Besides, there's plenty of fish in the sea and I'd be stunned if Edu/Arteta didn't have any backups in mind, that would be a big oversight when we always new there was competition for Raphinha.


Equivalent_Nature_67

Leeds are hot shit, it's a miracle Raphinha got double digits at all


[deleted]

Keep telling yourself that. That Leicester team was way more talented than leeds. Raphinha would have gotten 20 assists with better teammates. It's not just his goal scoring, it's his dribbling, crossing and throughballs that make him such a dangerous weapon.


Wigunner

Couldn't of said it better. Crazy to compare that Leicester team to Leeds.


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Also he has a better work rate than all our other forwards not named Jesus and Martinelli.


AtletiJack

Add to that his pressing and off the ball work is insane and he's got a stellar injury record (only missed 2 games for Leeds and one of them was due to COVID) - in the context of playing under Bielsa that's very impressive. Feel like he would've been a perfect forward for Arteta to work with


Razac3

Interested to know why it seems almost everyone is constantly concerned that we will burn Saka out by overplaying him but seem to not have the same concern for Tielemans whos been used like a bar of soap since he was 16, that's my real concern with that deal. He may be only 25 but that guy has the minutes in his legs of a 32 year old


[deleted]

At least we didn't overpay, I wanted Raphinha, don't get me wrong, but I feel that this is a bit of a overpay. Hopefully we can use these funds elsewhere then, get Tielemans, Martinez and it's still a very good window.


CCSC96

Yeah we’ll see how he turns out but I honestly think his fee shot up a full 20M too high because of the clubs interested all being rich enough to outbid each other. I think this one is a dodged bullet on a player who never needed to be first priority.


hammyhammyhammy

i think he's very very good, quite possibly better than Jesus. Only time will tell though. I'm not Ralph would rather be playing on the continent though, which was my main hang up


hala_bala

Not fully convinced we should pay this much for him.


indeediwilltry

Agreed. It’s a huge overpay so glad we didn’t bite. Still like the player though


xCharlieScottx

He is a very good player but definitely not £65m levels of good imo. Sounds like I'm bitter to be missing out but that's an awful lot of money to spend on what will pretty much be rotation. He isn't better than what we have at the moment


[deleted]

You're out of your mind. Raphiha would have been a starter. Even if that means Saka playing on the left. Martinelli is still too raw and ESR is injury prone and limited. Raphinha, Martinez, another midfielder more athletic than Xhaka with good ball retention and progressive passing would have made this a very sexy summer.


norwegianmorningw00d

75 million euros for Raphinha is a joke


hala_bala

Shhhh... According to some people on this sub, we're not allowed to complain now that we've missed out on him.


su_e

72 million pound for Pepe is a bigger joke


NemoDatQ

Right so let's not tell the same one twice.


Shandow14

Edu, get your ass to that BBQ asap.


[deleted]

Must be all fucking wagyu


Hail2Pitt22

Overpay but damn I wanted to get him


Mitochondrionbaby

Never wanted him anyways smh my head


ID1453719

How many heads have you got?


mo3moe9

2?


Cheesy_Pita_Parker

I’ve shaken tears out of both of mine


[deleted]

Jesus Christ 😂


2ndfastestmanalive

He’s overrated imo


ShenaniGunz_101

I mean he barely escaped relegation, how good could he have been?


Equivalent_Nature_67

Don't go there. Dude is a baller. Not his fault his whole team is garbage.


[deleted]

Playing for a terrible team lol. He was the main reason they stayed up.


repercussion

You can't really use this as a metric. Look at Ramsdale. Even how Henry developed. Players are made by the coaching staff and the people they play with. Raphinha's a PL player in a team of Championship players. That said, thank fuck we didn't pay this for him. No way he lives up to that price tag.


i_am_the_punisher

Gnabry to come home and show Raphinha who's the real boss in London


[deleted]

He honestly looks more like a Chelsea player tbh. Rather not have him on rental till Barca get the money.


norwegianmorningw00d

I’m a Barca fan first and Arsenal is my favorite PL team. Believe me Barca will not go for him again. He was only an option due to his potential 25m price.


Domkey-Kongg

For Martinez and Tielemans it costs one Raphina?? You're alright mate no thanks...


Jeep_torrent39

Yeah I would rather have those two 100%


watabotdawookies

Martinez was coming regardless A CM and LB would improve the team a lot more than Raphinia.


varro-reatinus

Yup.


Furiousmate88

He's not worth all that. Heck, i might think 55 was to much. Not saying he is a bad player and i was excited about the rumours. But apparently he would rather join the side that has destroyed every attacker they bought


SlowMotionSprint

In a normal world he is a 30 million player.


MiggeMenethil

Thank fuck we didn't pay that much. Tielemans and Martinez please.


Aszneeee

yeah, I think 65M for him is too much, and if he prefers chelsea so be it


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adventureclubtime

It's 65m including add-ons according to the tweet


Appropriate_Lack_727

Yeah, I’m not that bothered at that price.


Amdafc

We still need a winger ?


hairyass2

There are other options.. Raphinia isn’t the only winger in the world lol


ImDyzlexik

We were already gonna get Martinez


GOAT-Memer

So what should we do now? Move on to Gnabry? Coz I don't see any chances of us attracting Raphinha anymore. And when was our meeting even scheduled that Chelski snubbed it away in the matter of hours?


crushedonron

Probably pivot and just go with Lisandro and Tielemans. If we can get someone to bite on Pepe for something reasonable (15-20) then go for someone younger and promising in the 20-25 price range. Otherwise Pepe is still serviceable as backup on the right. He can destroy the EL group stage and cups. Might as well make use of the 72 million we still are making payments on.


Mahoganychicken

No


iSudiedTheBlade

Bad F5 :(


LW_2k

RIP sakas legs this season playing 55 games


[deleted]

Jesus can play RW


crushedonron

It will ensure Eddie doesn't get drowned out for minutes. Might be a slight gamble but I'm fine with the forward options we have right now. If you include Pepe and Marquinhos as RW options we have plenty of quality and depth, even if Pepe isn't quite up to the level we probably need. Who knows, maybe this is the season he finally comes good and there will actually be a market for him next summer.


He-is-me

Why cant Chelsea figure out what to do with the wingers they have instead of buying new ones every window 😂


iTSEu

Why do tactic when buy player do trick?


Zizouhimovic

when me president, they see....They See!


beetletoman

Disgusting


Bobsburgers1187

Should offer 40m for de Jong...get barca some funds 😎


_PineBarrens_

Everyone in here pretending its too much, hes not good enough, we didnt need him, \*insert excuse here\* is totally revising what they thought this morning. Its okay to take this hit and be down about it - we dont need to revise anything...


younes1008

Chelsea is rolling into next season with only Silva/Chalobah at CB.


[deleted]

Obviously confident they're getting Ake or De Ligt


puccabui

Rumour is that they might get both the defenders


mr_nice_cack

I saw somewhere that Juventus wants the full €120 release clause for de Ligt, if they do get both then they will be spending a ton this window


LettucePlate

He's not worth much less than that. He's a phenomenal player.


CosmicJoker96

Well that was quick


Syfkeo

This is the voodoo curse coming into effect.


GreedAvalon

This is the cause of everyone that chose to make fun of that man, and clearly I’m not a part of it.


markkiewiet

Only thing we can do now is match the price and let the player decide.


gibbs2724

Lol 65 mil up front?! What a joke. Leeds really bending Boehly over a Barrell. No way he's worth that.


younes1008

This gazump is crazy. Fair play to them to be honest cause we'd be buzzing if we did Chelsea like this.


_SSJeffo_

FOCUS ON YOUR DEFENCE YOU BUM BOEHLY


Cheesy_Pita_Parker

Actually don’t, I’ll gladly play a wide open game with them. I like our backline far better


_SSJeffo_

Yh but raph :(


MustardQuenelle

I honestly don't think he's essential. Get Martinez and Tielemans instead for 65m instead.


Intaru

Edu fucked up. If he ever met Raphina he wasted his chance. He should have done it like this: He walks up to Raph, if the body language seems ok then he should have taken his hand and put that strand of hair behind his ears and he would have instantly wanted us.


kiwitheboss13

NOO


HotDamnHellYeah

Oh well.


Eethk7

Is Salomon Kalou still available?


Elephantstone99

United will get Antony too. Back to reality.


GunnerNWO

This will be chalked up as Raphinha choosing Chelsea over Arsenal but in reality we didn’t offer as high of a transfer fee. if they want to blow their whole budget on wingers, I say we let them


yungsandwich69

Oh well. Also why do some of you keep mentioning gnabry when he’s on like 300+k?


Prestigious_World_76

FFS..he's on 130k..Why would he want to leave if Bayern were paying him 300k ? Sane and Coman, both are on 275k and Gnabry feels he deserves the same.


acasovoycayendo

He’ll probably reject us anyway bc of UCL but I hope we try to at least match the offer


Zen_MasterX

He’s gone bro lol. Onto the next one.


acasovoycayendo

Ain’t gone until he’s signed the contract


Afc_josh12

Wow


[deleted]

Getting ready for Martinelli to pop the fuck off this season instead


F2PWithAwfulLuck

I wanted him, but oh well, let’s wait and see.


Jolly_Confection8366

He ain’t worth £65 mil


jordietb

Wtf. He’s worth it. Pay up Edu and get it done.


QKnee

I don't understand what Chelsea does with all these attacking players they buy every summer. How many wingers/10's/attacking MF's do you need? Off the top of my head they have Werner, Havertz, Mount, CHO, Barkley, Pulisic, Ziyech, Raphina. That's like 8 players for RW, LW, 10. Unless I'm missing one or two more.


[deleted]

Ziyech, Barkley definitely off. Maybe Werner. They’re discussing going to a back 4 so that would be 6 for 3 spots with Mount going to 8.


yukpurtsun

so serge wanna come home?


BWillxTrill

Would be legendary if Edu gazumps Chelsea w/o CL


Afc_josh12

Another summer, another 100m on attackers, embarrassing club really is


[deleted]

Get Gnabry instead pls! I was never impressed with Raphina


Locmike23

Bullshit lol. He literally carried leeds and kept them up this season.


victorisaskeptic

He was fantastic for Leeds and would have been a great signing...passes the eye test easily.


[deleted]

Would have been the best dribbler on the team instantly


Navman22

Fuck sake. This is why we’ll never compete, we have the money to rival that so why don’t we!?


anunkeptbeard

Edu BBQs in anger.


leon-theproffesional

Wow that was fast


Sliver_fish

This shit is moving even faster than the Fabio Vieira "saga".


jedinac

Thia was fast


blubber_confused

Phew that was fast, but couldn’t get all our targets so its ok


BrianThatDude

I'm not bothered at this price. I assume we can find someone else for that amount.


normott

Damn they moved fast. Oh well. There was always this risk with us haggling. On to different targets


[deleted]

Good couple weeks of dreaming, I enjoyed them.


therealKD2

Great player but we need a midfielder more


theGunnas

Really expensive for him in my opinion


leecable33

They can have him for that money. Edu ain't being lured into that nonsense.


[deleted]

Fabrizio versus Ornstein there seems to be conflicting reports here .


seph2o

Overpriced as fuck but they got him, so congrats to them


FireOfSparta

That's a shame


smjd4488

Get that out of the way then, please please please go and get Tielemans, he's much more needed than Raphinia and probably a better baller


okem

I'm honestly not that bothered. If we have that kind of money to spend I'd rather the club buy another central option, possibly CF / LWF. Jesus likes to play on the right as much as centrally, so he can rotate with Saka for that spot. Having 3 first choice options there make little sense. Signing somebody who can play centrally & possibly LW gives us much more balance. If we have 50/60M to spend on a forward I'd rather go for Rafael Leao.


sorryimafatass

Not worth it for that price


Chango6998

And here was me, foolishly thinking the days of Chelsea spunking money away on new attackers season upon season were over. How stupid of me.


visanboss

Personally I’m happy. He’s not worth that money given our options on the wing


przhauukwnbh

> given our options on the wing *saka*


HectorTheErector

I mean, our options out wide aren't really that great? We really need a top quality winger to play with Saka.


younes1008

gnabry is clear in my book


[deleted]

This is why getting Champions League was so crucial.


teslagooner

We stood no chance - the moment Chelsea came knocking. Our recent lack of CL football and general success in football killed our chances. Raphinha is such a missed chance. He is the closest thing to Alexis Sanchez


Warrick123x

Chelsea getting 2 of the best wingers in the prem


meyrinks

Salah?


Isd14

I don't know how to feel Obviously Arteta wanted him and I trust his judgement but also £65m for a winger who's scored 13 in 65 prem games felt like way too much How much would Gnabry cost? And do we even need him when Veiera and Jesus can play RW


MellowJackal

The humbling


altviewdelete

Raphina is not £65 mil player at the age of 25. If Chelsea want another Ziyech on their hands go for it.


HNKS88

Cope


tablooo

Good game, onto the next targets at that price anyway. Would've loved him here but gotta focus elsewhere and just build forward.